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User:138.246.7.119 reported by User:Ideogram (Result:)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
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4th revert:

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

(initial comment)

Time report made: 00:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You both seem to have broken 3rr. 12h each. William M. Connolley 07:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC). My mistake - Ideogram far anough out of 24h to be unblocked William M. Connolley 08:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

User:68.19.231.39 reported by User:SDC 02:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 02:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

I didn't write the material in question, but I saw that the anonymous user announced that he/she would delete it every day. I've been restoring what has been deleted, but this is going on forever. The information checks out to be valid. The anonymous user has never contributed to Misplaced Pages before today.

The info is not vaild:

The info is not vaild. It is a step by step list of how to steal a Sprint customers account info. There is no point to is being listed, other then out of spite. Because this web site can't be a place to list every single problem, every carrer makes. but no one is listing problems made by other carriers, just this one. Someone listed the issue was corrected, so what other point in there for this topic?

If you are going to post this type of info, then do it for every single carrier, every single time the problem occurs. But listing a web site showing how to go about stealing personal info is crazy and mean.

68.19.231.39 02:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)Joliee

Misplaced Pages is not censored. Stifle (talk) 10:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

24h William M. Connolley 07:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Also if you notice, this user is the same user as CDMACORE if you check the contrib's and IP addresses and harasses everyone.

User:Stanley011 reported by User:Sysrpl (Result: 24h)

1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:
5th revert:
6th revert:
7th revert:

Time report made: 07:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

I didn't write the all of material being reverted, but you can reference the talk here from section the "Off-topic and Superfluous Injections" all the way down where examples of Stanley011 abuse is chronicled. Multiple users have pointed out he unsuccessfully nominated the article in question article for deletion, had his account briefly suspended before for the same kind of 3RR reverts violations on that page, and is now attempting to poison the well with his fast edits and reversions.

This is an ongoing problem with user Stanley011. Five other users on that page had added to the discussion asking him to stop to no avail. In my opinion his comments have been disingenuous and sometimes evasive. When pressed he ends the conversations by chaning the subject thusly, "your refusal to respond to my arguments means you have conceded the points".

The contributors on that page don't have time to play Sherlock Holmes with all his edits. If at all possible, could Stanley011's account be suspended from editing that article or locked out from it permanently?

Stanley011 has been blocked for 24 hours. I have no discretion to ban him from the article. User:Damburger also violated 3RR in there and is blocked too. Stifle (talk) 10:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

User:RolandR reported by User:Zeq (Result: 3h)

Prior version reverted to : (by the first two reverts only - after that partial reverts to edits in the same version).

1st revert: 10:36, 11 July 2006 – full revert (diff to the reverted version showing full revert:

2nd revert 10:51, 11 July 2006 – full revert (diff to the reverted version showing full revert::)

3rd revert 11:01, 11 July 2006 – removing of a sentence starting with "made more complex by ..." - that was recently added (and thus this is a revert):

4th revert: 11:32, 11 July 2006 – partial revert, restoring one sentence (the one starting with: "illegally annexed by Israel in 1980 ..."), which was part of the section that was re-added in the 1st and 2nd reverts.

Time report made: 12:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Reported by: Zeq

Come on, you've seen enough 3RR, you can put together a proper report William M. Connolley 15:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

It is a propre report . It identify 4 reverts very clearly. Zeq 18:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR are timely issues - is anyone going to review this ? Tnx.

Have you spotted whats missing yet? William M. Connolley 20:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Connolley : No. I don't get your although you surly have an intersting way of trying to make it. Enlight me please. Zeq 03:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

To any admin reading this: If something is missing in this report please let me know. This report requires a decision. Zeq 06:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You forgot to fill in the article name. Anyway, 3h for a first offence William M. Connolley 07:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:JIP reported by User:BoojiBoy (Result: Rejected)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

18:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Sequential edits uninterrupted by other users should be counted as one revert, not several. Homey 19:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Brian@popflux.com reported by User:131.107.0.103 22:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 131.107.0.103 22:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Repeatedly asked Brian@popflux.com to cite a source other than original research. User has threatened to report me if I revert his changes again.

This is a case of Wiki Stalking. Anon does not like my edits at the Duke University lacrosse team scandal page, and is following my edits on to other articles to register their displeasure. The data Anon claims is WP:OR is Census data. Census data is not OR. This is a frivolous claim by an anonymous stalker. This is not the first time Anon has targeted me. Abe Froman 22:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

This is not a case of Wiki Stalking. 131.107.0.103 is shared by 25,000 employees of Microsoft. I have tried to discuss this with Brian@popflux.com on his user talk page, as well as the talk page of Thomas Kean Jr. Brian@popflux.com does not wish to have a discussion, and wants to make paranoid claims of stalking.

User:WikiRoo reported by User:AbsolutDan (Result:48 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 13:28, 9 July 2006
1st revert: 03:21, 10 July 2006
2nd revert: 16:02, 10 July 2006
3rd revert: 22:14, 10 July 2006
4th revert: 01:17, 11 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Time report made: 00:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User has violated 3RR several times already under both his previous username User:WikiDoo and IP User:216.154.134.91 and been warned for it on both. Admission by user that he is also WikiDoo: , and clear evidence that he did see the warning on his previous username (as he posted many times beneath it before switching his username): User talk:WikiDoo#3RR. See also previous (currently unresolved) 3RR report under WikiDoo: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:WikiDoo reported by User:AbsolutDan (Result:) --AbsolutDan 00:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 48 hours for the 3rr violation and personal attacks Jaranda 01:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:CAYA reported by User:ChrisB (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 06:55, 8 July 2006

1st revert: 04:00, 11 July 2006
2nd revert: 04:45, 11 July 2006
3rd revert: 23:54, 11 July 2006
4th revert: 02:18, 12 July 2006
5th revert: 02:48, 12 July 2006

Edit at 04:26 to add:

6th revert: 04:18, 12 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Time report made: 02:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Same behavior as a few days ago. User:CAYA continues to remove the same patch of text, which is sourced from a hard copy of a magazine. He believes that since he cannot see the source for himself, it cannot be used. He refuses to discuss any other option, and simply removes the text, despite a lengthy discussion and (apparent) consensus that the cite is appropriate. (He was given a 24-hour block for 3RR this past Sunday.) -- ChrisB 02:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
24 hours and if CAYA blanks any warnings, let me know and I will extend the block. Jaranda 05:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:The Ungovernable Force reported by User:Drowner (Result:22 hours and indef)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 02:12, 12 July 2006
2nd revert: 02:35, 12 July 2006
3rd revert: 02:37, 12 July 2006
4th revert: 02:43, 12 July 2006

Time report made: 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: There are more than this as can be seen: He keeps calling me a "banned user" and "sock puppet" and harrassing me and deleting everything thing I write. Drowner 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I keep calling you a banned user because you are! You're not fooling anyone Hogeye. This is the second report you have filed against me, do you think this one will work? The Ungovernable Force 03:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Look I don't know who you are but you need to stop harrassing me and deleting everything I write. If this is your way of trying to get an article how you would like it is is dishonest.

Blocked both for being disruptive so-and-sos, edit warring over trivia. --Tony Sidaway 03:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Truthwanted reported by User:Agathoclea (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to: Revision as of 12:59, 8 July 2006
1st revert: Revision as of 18:53, 11 July 2006
2nd revert: Revision as of 20:23, 11 July 2006
3rd revert: Revision as of 21:18, 11 July 2006
4th revert: Revision as of 11:40, 12 July 2006

previous bans:

Time report made: 13:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

24h William M. Connolley 15:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

- user is evading block as User:192.117.103.90

Agathoclea 20:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:58.178.15.253 reported by User:Panairjdde (Result:)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert: 14:53, 12 July 2006
2nd revert: 14:58, 12 July 2006
3rd revert: 15:03, 12 July 2006
4th revert: 15:11, 12 July 2006
5th revert: 15:11, 12 July 2006 (2)
6th revert: 15:19, 12 July 2006
7th revert: 15:23, 12 July 2006
8th revert: 15:25, 12 July 2006
9th revert: [http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Italy_national_football_team&diff=63407349&oldid=63406784

15:32, 12 July 2006]

10th revert: 15:36, 12 July 2006
11th revert: 15:40, 12 July 2006

Time report made: 13:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: He is aware of what he is doing. Possibly same as 58.178.15.253, who appeared at the same time as 58.178.15.253, and wrote "Panairjidde, fuck off you Italian. It's time to invade Italy's page I think" (). He also reverted 8 times Guus Hiddink, as well as personal attacks at Talk:Italy national football team and User_talk:Panairjdde (Panairjdde 14:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC))

User:68.69.194.125 reported by User:Crossmr (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 05:17, 11 July 2006
2nd revert: 06:00, 11 July 2006
3rd revert: 06:41, 11 July 2006
4th revert: 06:47, 11 July 2006
5th revert: 03:00, 12 July 2006

Time report made: 13:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: As I was blocked for 12 hours for this edit war, policy "In the cases where multiple parties violate the rule, administrators should treat all sides equally". User:ESkog has left him a warning, but that does not satisfy the policy.

As I explained to you, it is not our practice to block users who were unaware they were breaking a rule. All parties were treated equally, as you had already neared a 3RR violation on another page and thus you were pointed to the fact that the rule existed. Equality of treatment does not necessarily mean equality of block duration. (ESkog) 13:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't exactly call you a neutral party in anything involving me for the next little while. I had to make the point several times and ask several times to even get you to address it. In addition if you view the user page, in the incidents surrounding that, the user also engaged in numerous personal attacks, which btw has been sitting on the personal attack noticeboard since yesterday morning, and has certainly been engaging in disruptive behaviour.--Crossmr 14:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Handface reported by User:Allen3 (Result:Blocked for other activities)

Initial addition: 15:35, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
1st revert: 16:24, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
2nd revert: 16:32, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
3rd revert: 16:48, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
4th revert: 17:11, July 12, 2006 (UTC)

Time report made: 17:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User:Handface has since been blocked for activities unrelated to the reported 3RR violation. --Allen3 17:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Mousescribe reported by User:Ardenn (Result:)

1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:
5th revert:

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Time report made: 20:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

He continues, even now, to violate 3RR. Ardenn 00:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Tazmaniacs reported by User:Intangible (Result:No block, page protected)

Version of article used for talk page discussion:
1st revert: 18:19, 12 July 2006
2nd revert: 18:31, 12 July 2006
3rd revert: 19:50, 12 July 2006
4th revert: 20:10, 12 July 2006

User:Tazmaniacs is familiar with the 3RR rule:

Time report made: 20:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

There is already a talk page discussion going which tries to define the introduction of this article. Instead of engaging in the discussion, User:Tazmaniacs simply inserts what he/she thinks to be the correct introduction, instead of waiting for a consensus to be made at the talk page. Intangible 20:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like he stopped after the warning you gave him, no block for now and I'll protect the page. Jaranda 21:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not give him a warning. His last edit was his 4th revert, a 3RR rule violation. He was already familiar with the 3RR rule Intangible 21:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Page is already protected, just talk this out in the article talk page, as you were very close to 3rr as well Jaranda 22:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. Sounds reasonable. Intangible 22:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Colonel Angus reported by User:—xyzzy_n (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 2006-07-11 16:23:11 (the following are partial reverts by reinsertion of content)
1st revert: 2006-07-12 23:07:29
2nd revert: 2006-07-12 23:15:15
3rd revert: 2006-07-12 23:19:11
4th revert: 2006-07-12 23:23:31

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Time report made: 21:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

24 hours for the 3rr and personal attacks Jaranda 21:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Francespeabody reported by User:Isopropyl (Result:72 hours)

Previous version reverted to: different versions of
1st revert: 14:23 12 July
2nd revert: 17:01 12 July
3rd revert: 17:36 12 July
4th revert: 22:16 12 July

Note: There are several more reverts in the past 24 hours.

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

1st warning: 18:34 11 July
2nd warning: 19:10 12 July

Time report made: 03:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

As of 03:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC), user is continuing to revert
Possible socking, may evade via 24.215.230.63 (talk · contribs) who is also in revert trouble
Admin - 72 hrs. 6 reverts is a massive amount.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Maximus_Meridius reported by User:Schmoul Aschkenazi 12:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 02:50, 12 July 2006 Maximus Meridius http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Fight_Dem_Back&diff=63581694&oldid=63345339
2nd revert: 01:14, 13 July 2006 Maximus Meridius http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Fight_Dem_Back&diff=63581694&oldid=63515732
3rd revert: 08:48, 13 July 2006 Maximus Meridius http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Fight_Dem_Back&diff=63581694&oldid=63569173
4th revert: 10:26, 13 July 2006 Bergen Smergen (sockpuppet of Maximus Meridius) http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Fight_Dem_Back&diff=63581694&oldid=63577943

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Maximus_Meridius#Fight_Dem_Back (One more revert and you go to 3RR land. Schmoul Aschkenazi 10:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC))

Time report made: 12:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

"prev version" omitted (sigh... will they never learn?). However, with BS's edit that really is 4R, so MM can have 24h for using socks and I'll indef BS William M. Connolley 18:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about omission of the previous version. I'll see to getting the format correct in future. However, as I am not a long experienced Wikipedian, it's unfair to characterise me as someone who can't learn. Thanks for acting on this matter nonetheless. Problem solved, if but for now. Schmoul Aschkenazi 23:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Greier reported by User:Tēlex (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: did not revert to the same version each time
1st revert: 20:49, 13 July 2006 - he reverted to revision as of 20:46, 13 July 2006 (proof)
2nd revert: 20:53, 13 July 2006 - he reverted to revision as of 20:46, 13 July 2006 (proof - it was obvious from the edit summary anyway)
3rd revert: 21:04, 13 July 2006 - he reverted to revision as of 21:02, 13 July 2006 (proof)
4th revert: 21:17, 13 July 2006 - he reverted to revision as of 21:07, 13 July 2006 (proof)

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable):

Has been blocked many many times before - not needed.

Time report made: 21:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

User was revert warring against many users. Also look at this of the above reverts. He reverts to an unreferenced version, and has a personal attack in the edit summary. Also, if you want to be sure they are four reverts, check the four "proof" diffs. --Tēlex 21:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

BE BOLD IN UPDATING!!! That is Misplaced Pages policy. Those are different edits, not 3RR. greier 21:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about - they are four pure reverts; check the four "proof" diffs, which show pure reverts to a previous revision. They are only reverts to different versions, but that is not a requirement (according to William M. Connoley at least). --Tēlex 21:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, I don`t know how 3RR works exactly. That`s why I`ve been blocked several times before. But what I know is that neither the left panel, nor the right panel from all of those links are identical. So not only that I did not revert to my version, I also did not revert to a previous version. 21:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Greir, revert yourself, and stop edit warring. You just got back from a one week block. Jkelly 21:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

User:JzG reported by User:Socafan (Result:No violation)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert: 10:44, 14 July 2006
2nd revert: 11:07, 14 July 2006
3rd revert: 11:18, 14 July 2006
4th revert: 11:21, 14 July 2006
5th revert 12:01, 14 July 2006

Time report made: 11:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Deletes factual information, refuses to use talk, threatened to block me, made unfounded allegations and uses "spelling" pretexts. Socafan 11:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Routine rouge admin abuse. User is adding problematic statements about a living individual which are stated in non-neutral terms. User has been told to take it to Talk and has revert warred instead. Note that third revert is different content. User has now taken this to Talk. Just zis Guy you know? 11:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Admin added racism to 3RR and blocked another user while in a conflict of interest. Socafan 11:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Three-revert rule#Reverting potentially libellous material - "The three-revert rule does not apply to users making a good-faith effort to enforce this provision, whether they are involved in editing the articles themselves or not." Tom Harrison 13:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ThePromenader reported by User:Hardouin (Result:8 hours each)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 20:41, July 13, 2006

1st revert: 23:14, July 13, 2006
2nd revert: 00:48, July 14, 2006
3rd revert: 00:56, July 14, 2006
4th revert: 05:54, July 14, 2006

Time report made: 11:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user reverted four times some references concerning Paris education figures without waiting for discussion on the talk page to be carried through. This user has a past record of page appropriation and hot-temper at the Paris article. He recently reverted User:86.71.38.247, who had added a reference to the Paris Club, simply because (I quote ThePromenader) "I couldn't find what "Club de Paris" was exactly, or what informative value it has " (). Frequent reverts and page appropriation contribute negatively to the editing atmosphere of the article. Hardouin 11:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what to do here. Promenader seems to be a generally good editor, and no warning was issued. The "reference" indicates a novel synthesis was being promoted. I'm inclined to leave a message and let be, unless there is evidence of a problem in urgent need of fixing. Just zis Guy you know? 11:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi - and thanks for your heads-up. I was stuck between a few situations here - even though the doubt over the who did what was next to nil for me, perhaps I should have thought of the doubt others would have in looking at the situation from an objective point of view. This concerns only the reverts to the "education" section - I frankly don't know what "Paris club" has to do with this as it's still there (but still unreferenced). I think the sock-puppetry here is pretty obvious, but I wasn't sure what to do in this sort of situation - open a WP:RfC and a WP:3RR against the presumed puppet? This would take ages, and frankly all this wasn't worth a correction to an obvious mistake that would take only a few keystrokes to fix by a willing editor. Anyhow I leave myself to your judgement of the matter. THEPROMENADER 12:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Promenader a "good editor"? You must not be aware of the frequent wars started by this user in the previous months. The guy is arguing personal opinions about Paris against User:Metropolitan, User:Pedro carras, and I, not to mention those that I forget now. He frequently engages in edits wars and write inflamed messages, always hiding behind supposed references in his favor (odd that three other users would get it wrong, and he alone would get it right). You can find examples of what I say at Talk:Île-de-France and Talk:List of tallest structures in Paris. The guy has threatened to move List of tallest structures in Paris to "List of tallest structures in the Paris region" over the course of this week-end ( & ), despite having consensus against him on the talk page. Hardouin 12:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, Hardouin. Let's not turn this into a circus. Referenced fact is not "personal opinions", and let me remind you that, without a single exception, it is you who have reverted any article change in favour of your own unreferenceable propos, and it is this that begins edit wars. If your contributions were indeed geared to fact, then you would have ample references to provide and no-one could find any fault. To date there is but one contributor (sharing a remarkable similarities in editing habits and opinions to yourself) doing the same - and the other contributor, created only to edit the Paris article it seems, no longer exists. Yet all of this is irrelevent, as the only thing that matters here is the verifiability of our work, and one cannot build consensus on a lack of this. Again I don't see what this has to do with any WP:3RR rule. THEPROMENADER 12:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ThePromenader is an awarded editor. Edit wars ThePromenader has participated in have solely included yourself on recuring topics of which ThePromenader has attached sources or remove content without. Several messages have been left on Usertalk:ThePromenader by yourself with questionable vocabulary. this is already the third presence of Hardouin on this 3RR page in the past few months for similar reasons. I would do as I suggested and from both parts: let it go and chill. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 12:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Captain Scarlet, there's a clear rule that says that one user shall not revert more than three times in 24 hours. Promenader reverted 4 times in the space of 6 hours and 40 minutes. That's a clear case of breaking the 3RR. The fact that Promenader is an "awarded editor" (awarded by you, by the way...) is totally irrelevant, unless we consider that some people on Misplaced Pages have privileges and can break the 3RR without consequences. Hardouin 13:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

ThePromenader is awarded by a little more than just myself, I believe there are a total of three up to this date. The conversation has moved forward of the standard breaking of the 3RR which is all in good unless other editors force others to come to those decisions which what I have contributed above. The participation of ThePromenader to this 3RR war is with you and this case is not a 100% ThePromenader affair. This referal is not about me, but about you, Hardouin, and ThePromenader, please do not involve me in your arguying, I have contributed here to bring facts, not petty comments. There was no comment made by myself disengaging ThePromenader from his breaking of the 3RR but a contribution on the reasons. Take note of my very last comment and enjoy the Friday afternoon and calm down. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 13:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

ThePromenader is also engaged in an edit war with User:Metropolitan in case you forgot, so this is certainly not just about Promenader and I. Besides, you can't be expected to be neutral here, given your own involvement in edits wars with user Metropolitan. Maybe you want me to refresh your memory and let the rest of people know? Hardouin 13:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd be glad to remind you of your involvement in the incident you started and mentionned above, quite befiting. And indeed I am neutral in this since I have in no way participated in this incident and am a spectator of both your and ThePromenader's actions. You will find it benefitial to understand I am not throwing the first stone nor am I directing the fault to you alone, as stated twice, above. Rather than returning comments to myself, you would to review your participation in this and understand the results of nominating someone in an incident you participate in as I have, I believe not participated in it. you may once again make sure you read my entire contributions and not focus on ths one sentence alone and calm down, this is not an inquisition.

thanks to another editor, ThePromenader was lately warned and you should have indeed followed procedure and If you report a 3RR violation here it is good form to inform the person you are reporting of this on their talk page and provide a link to this page WP:AN/3RR. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 13:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

This has become a circus. What I find most odd about this is that the point being skipped: How can one anon contributor find one page in all of Wiki where there has occurred one edit war over one reference and one word of text, and make only one edit, being to once again replace that very same reverted-to error exactly how it was written/reverted already thrice before? Even the argument of one looking at the "recent changes" list doesn't hold up, as the anon revert occured three hours after the final and third revert. I understand that I should not have crossed the line, but how can one ever hope to edit decently in face of a use of such tactics, and especially when these are unhesitatingly used in defense of an error clearly exposed as such many times and many days previously? I would be willing to undergo any sort of reprimandation at all just to quickly give this situation the attention it deserves. THEPROMENADER 13:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

One final note: I neglected to argue for the validity of my edit-war reverts, an element that did figure in my final decision. User:Hardouin, after being shown his error a week earlier, pounced from silence to reinstate his irrelevent references almost exactly as they were before. The problem with these: they were a link to statistics taken from one area indicated as a reference for text speaking of another. This was so unargueably false that I considered reverting to these as a sort of vandalism. Not only was reverting brandished as a means to enforce an inventive propos, but the propos has et been answered by any argument factual - nor can it be. But I can let you be the judge of this yourselves. Sorry for taking even more of your time. THEPROMENADER 14:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

OK... so... TP has clearly broken 3RR. Arguably the edit he was reverting was a bad one (I think so) but its not 3RR immune. As it says... if the edit is so bad, wait, and someone else will revert it. However, as TP points out, the anon is almost without a doubt a sock of H, who has thus broken 3RR too. So... 8h each William M. Connolley 16:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure a block is required in order to prevent TP from repeating the edit. It is without question required to stop H from reinserting this questionable reference. Just zis Guy you know? 18:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sympathetic to TP, but I don't think its right not to block just cos I agree with TPs edit William M. Connolley 20: 23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hagiographer (talk · contribs)

Edition reverted to

1st revert

2 revert

3 revert .

This sockpuppet of Zapatancas (talk · contribs) has also bveen removing my comments from my talk page and and , SqueakBox 12:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Where is the 4th revert? And please fill out the form correctly. - FrancisTyers · 16:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ptmccain reported by Doright:Doright (Result:48 hours)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert: Revision as of 15:06, 13 July 2006 Reversion of section title from "Luther and Antisemitism" to "Luther and the Jews," etc.

2nd revert: Revision as of 15:14, 13 July 2006 Reversion of section title from "Luther and Antisemitism" to "Luther and the Jews," etc

3rd revert: Revision as of 15:18, 13 July 2006 Reversion of "sola fide" to June 6 version

4th revert: Revision as of 15:20, 13 July 2006 Reversion and breaking of link after his own reversions are reverted

5th revert: Revision as of 15:21, 13 July 2006 Reversion of "sola fide" to June 6 version

Time report made: 16:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Immediately upon expiration of his 7 day block, Ptmccain continues edit warring on the same article. The 3rd and 5th reverts are identical to his July 6, 2006 reverts for which he was blocked, for example see here. Edits 1 and 2 are readily observed as reversions by noting the reversions to the title of the section, "Luther and Antisemitism." Edit 4 is a revert that one senior editor identifies as "link that ptmccain broke deliberately."

I'm not sure that is a 3RR, I see a maximum of two identical reverts, twice. Could you elaborate? - FrancisTyers · 16:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Please tell me which two that you see? Then I'll know which other three need elaboration. BTW, I believe that reverts are reverts whether identical or not. So I'm not sure what it is that you don't see. For example, what should I provide for you to see that he reverted the section title twice, the link once and the "doctrine of sola fide" sentence twice, for a total of five reverts? --Doright 16:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

FrancisTyers, since you have not answered the above question, I reread your comment. You say you see "two identical reverts, twice." Since "twice" mutiplies "two identical reverts" by a factor of two, according to you there are at a minimum four reverts (i.e., those numbered 1st and 2nd, and those numbered 3rd and 5th. Perhaps by now you see how number four is a revert as well. However, your comment below, "I'm not seeing the previous version that was reverted to. Can someone fill in that link," has me wondering if I'm being understood at all or if there is a misunderstanding regarding this: Please clarify.Doright 20:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

To clarify: Reversion one was the reversion of a section title and text against consensus; that was changed and reversion two is Ptmccain's reversion of that. Reversion three is his deletion of text placed there by another editor. Reversion four is his change of a section title, that was changed back, and reversion five is his reversion of the change. I'm not an expert at this but this does seem to me as this editor correcting the work of another editor five times within 24 hours -- actually within a few minutes. This editor embarked on these reversions immediately after a one-week block for a similar 3RR spree. He should be blocked for in excess of one week. Given his repeated violations (this is the fifth or sixth, I've lost count) I think an indefinite block is in order.--Mantanmoreland 17:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I would think that it would have to include some part of the same material 4 times, which is not the case.--Drboisclair 17:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it doesn't have to, and Ptmccain has had that explained to him many times. SlimVirgin 17:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I respectfully, but vigorously, protest the accusation I have violated 3RR. I did revert the Luther and Antisemitism content section on the Luther page twice, but then I stopped. I have not reverted it since. My other edits on the Luther page were all legitimate and not reversions. I had to correct a number of insignificant typos and such and fixed a few typos. I can understand why some would wish instantly to suspect I've violated 3RR, but I honestly do not believe I have this time. The change of the section head at the top of the page was merely my attempt to match it to the title I was trying to give the section. Further, if somebody would consult the user discussion page on the Luther article page, they will see I've indicated that I think it is just time to move and forget about trying to edit war to death teh whole issue. I'm dissapointed, but not surprised, that three Wiki users seem intent on constantly insisting on assuming bad faith on my part. I understand the 3RR policy and very intentionally am trying not to violate it. I would appreciate if an admin would give me a bit of a break here and explain to me very specifically precisely how it is that any of my editing has in fact violated WP:3RR. I'm still fairly a new user on Misplaced Pages, but I've read the policy carefully during my hiatus from Wiki and am trying not to break 3RR. And I would, even as I've been appropriately reminded myself by the same editors, appreciate it if people would do me the courtesy of extending the benefit of the doubt, per WP:GF. Thanks. Ptmccain 17:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I want to make this clear. I do apologize if I somehow violated 3RR again. I do not believe I did. I further do not belive that the edits referred to in the claim against me are "edit warring." I removed a line from the introduction and put in new text in the article. The 3RR policy indicates the following: Reverting without "As the purpose of this policy is to prevent edit warring, it should not be taken to apply in cases where it is clear that no edit warring has taken place. For instance, consecutive edits by the same editor are considered to be one; thus if an editor makes three separate successive edits, each of which reverts a different section, but with no intervening edits by other editors, this is counted as one revert. Likewise, if there are intervening edits but they are clearly unrelated or non-contentious, such as a bot adding an interwiki link to a foreign language version of the page, this does not increase the 'revert count'." I sincerely made my other edits on the page without edit warring. I am sorry if I offended anyone, but my edits were offered in good faith. A check of the page and the discussion will show that I am willing to concede on the "Luther and Jew" issue and am the one who indicated that on the page. We just all need to move on and stop the behavior that leads us all to violate the policy. I apologize for my involvement in doing that. But I do not believe I am to be accused, in this instance, of violating WP:3RR.Ptmccain 17:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that I was not notified of this accusation by the person making it, as per Wiki policy that states: "If you report a 3RR violation here it is good form to inform the person you are reporting of this on their talk page and provide a link to this page WP:AN/3RR." I would like to think that even if somebody is going to try to nail me on 3RR, they would at least make the effort to inform me, which has not been case here, nor in previous incidents. Thanks.Ptmccain 18:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

There's no requirement to warn someone who is a serial reverter, and who has already been warned many times already. If you would stop reverting constantly, you would stop being "nailed." You are making that article next to impossible to edit, and that's not to mention all your on- and off-wiki personal attacks. SlimVirgin 18:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not seeing the previous version that was reverted to. Can someone fill in that link? - FrancisTyers · 18:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe it is applicable.--Mantanmoreland 18:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the edits, I do not see where PTMcCain reverted the same material more than twice. Two were of the section title, which Doright has been engaging in near edit war over the last week, and the Sola Fide, which was not in dispute, but caught in the reverts. It seems to me that edit wars take more that one person to conduct and that others reverting the same material twice a day over weeks and months should be slow to accuse others of less than blantant violations of the rule. --CTSWyneken 18:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

CTSW, the material does not have to be the same. See WP:3RR. SlimVirgin 18:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ptmccain's last act before being blocked was a bizarre personal attack while vandalizing my user page -- "Editor has joined the Wiki cabal of POV warriers on Jewish issues" -- and his first act after the block expired was this ad hominem justifying his vandalism of another page. He then embarked upon his blizzard of reverts. His requests to "assume good faith" are thus unpersuasive.--Mantanmoreland 19:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The previous user's accusations are false. Neither statement is true, that these were my "last acts" before being blocked. Further, the user fails to indicate that I removed the last comment he references, thinking better of it, realizing there was no point in pursuing the issue. A careful review of the user's contribution page on the Luther pages will show there is more than enough blame to go around for the situation on the Martin Luther page and so the accusation of ad hominem from this user are equally unpersuasive. I do not believe it is in keeping with WP:GF or WP:CIVIL for the user to post these kinds of remarks. I accept my share of responsibility for the problem, but do not accept it exclusively.Ptmccain 19:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see how this edit constitutes an ad hominem or personal attack. Mind explaining it to me? In the edit, he seems to be talking about an inconsistency between another editor's proclaimed adherence to sourcing standards and his actual edit history. This seems to be an example of commenting on content, not on contributors, which is what WP:NPA urges us to do. But then, I don't know the entire backstory behind Ptmccain's edits and other editors involved, so I might be failing to see something in context. Can you explain why this edit was a personal attack, Mantanmoreland? Cheers, Kasreyn 19:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Its a bit of a mess, but this is definitely 4R: the two marked "restore" are reverts (would be nice if marked as such) and 3, 5 are (as the reporter said) the same as the July 7th version with the same edit summary. Now, how long? I'm not sure. 48h perhaps William M. Connolley 20:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree; policy is quite clear that the reverts do not have to be the same: Reverting, in this context, means undoing the actions of another editor or other editors in whole or part. It does not necessarily mean taking a previous version from history and editing that. A revert may involve as little as adding or deleting a few words or even one word. Even if you are making other changes at the same time, continually undoing other editors' work counts as reverting. "Complex partial reverts" refer to reverts that remove or re-add only some of the disputed material while adding new material at the same time, which is often done in an effort to disguise the reverting. This type of edit counts toward 3RR, regardless of the editor's intention. Ptmccain has done this many times before, and just come off a number of lengthy blocks. 48 hrs seems charitable. Jayjg 21:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

If intention is an issue, even if one were to accept Ptmccain's description of his state of mind, one can readily conclude that his intention was to "game" the 3RR rule. Further, I suggest this is an explanation for why "Its a bit of a mess." --Doright 22:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

William, I don't see how a decrease in block time helps. If 7 days was not long enough for the editor to comply with this policy, after so many repeats, it seems to me that 7 weeks will not be enough. But 2 days … next time is it 1 day then 0? For goodness sakes, it was only minutes after his last 7-day block expired that he again continued his prior edit war (i.e., reversions 3 and 5) without missing a beat.

I think you will agree that common sense dictates an increasing term, not a decreasing term for repeat offences of identical policy. Please take a look at his block history, plus the history of admin warnings and his expression of disdain for those official warnings. :

IMHO, 2 days is not in the interest of WP and this shorter term can only contribute to the burnout of contributing editors. I have to tell you, if I thought the result was going to be 2 days, I would not have bothered with this.

The point is prevention and not punishment. The editor has repeatedly made it clear that the only way to prevent him is to block him. If this is not already obvious, further evidence can be provided. Besides 3RR, for example, he even continues to blank and otherwise vandalize editor's user pages despite having repeatedly been told it is a violation of policy. I have personal knowledge of several such cases, including my own where he blanked my user page (including a misleading edit summary) and then working in concert with him, CTSWyneken lodged an official complaint against me, incredibly claiming that it was I blanked my own page in violation of policy.

Please consider the effect on WP when making your final judgment: The burnout of editors, time wasted, disruption to the community and the message it sends both to violators and victims. Thank you for your consideration and formidable contributions to the community. --Doright 21:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

In the ad hominem I quoted earlier he referred to his then-current one-week block as "I stepped over the 3RR line, or at least did so in the opinion of a certain admin." He is going to repeat 3RR again and again and again, and editors are going to have to waste a lot of energy calling him on it. I see from his user page quote from the blocking administrator that he has no comprehension of the rule, and no intention to abide by it. The block should be longer than one week, not less. Note also please vandalism and personal attacks noted earlier He now deletes civil requests that he stop bombarding me with hostile emails, describing them falsely in edit summaries as "vandalism." The block should be longer than one week, not less, in my view.--Mantanmoreland 21:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

As you can see from above, William, Doright and Mantanmoreland are attacking the user, even when he can't defend himself. Perhaps they deliberately bated McCain. Why is it that this kind of behavior is tolerated? Only a single admin has ever so much as told them to knock it off. Somehow, I doubt this behavior and failing to curb it serves the community. And now you've encouraged them. --CTSWyneken 23:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Come on, CTSW. You do yourself and Misplaced Pages no favors by defending McCain. He has behaved like a childish thug ever since he joined WP. Constant reverting, warned many times, blocked several times, removing warnings from his talk page, personal attacks, an attempt to "out" me, threatening emails, silly comments about Jewish cabals — cabals composed of "real" Jews and "honorary" ones, to get round the awkward fact that not everyone who opposes him is Jewish: this is the language that neo-Nazis employ when they talk about "Jews and their lackeys" — vandalism of user talk pages, blanking of articles, WP:POINT whenever a citation request is made, by going to other articles the requesting editor has worked on and peppering them with the {{fact}} template. It's instructive to me that one of the nicest and gentlest editors on WP said of McCain that he was perhaps the most unpleasant editor she had ever encountered. Myself, I think it's time for an RfC, and if that doesn't work, take him to the arbcom for a ban on editing Martin Luther-related pages. SlimVirgin 08:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not an "attack" to discuss this user's past and present misconduct, which is numerous and ongoing. Also, please explain how he was "bated" to violate WP:3RR for six times in the same article.--Mantanmoreland 00:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Everything that User:CTSWyneken has stated is the truth of the case. I corroborate everything he states here. To quote Blackadder's characters: "Gloaters here!"--Drboisclair 02:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Mantanmoreland, as I've said above, I remain confused as to why you feel this edit constitutes a personal attack. Could you please explain? Thanks, Kasreyn 04:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Since no "(Result:)" is posted above, and this is my first 3RR report, I'm not sure if this case is closed. I certainly hope not. The last time Ptmccain was blocked the admin said:

"In view of repeated 3RRs on this page, a longer block seems called for: 1 week William M. Connolley 19:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)."

I'm sure you don't need me to point out that after yet another 3RR violation logic dictates that a shorter block is not called for. --Doright 01:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

This is deceptive in that it looks like Mr. Connolley is changing his sentence. I am making this post non-ambiguous. It should be noted that the blockquote by user:Doright is not a rescinding of Mr. Connolley's other verdict. --Drboisclair 02:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I was going to revert changes you made to my post, however I see that you made none. The only thing "deceptive" about the post is that it assumes an 8th grade reading level. --Doright 03:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Bhouston reported by User:Ste4k (Result:No block)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 20:26, 12 July 2006

1st revert: 13:33, 14 July 2006
2nd revert: 16:52, 14 July 2006
3rd revert: 17:03, 14 July 2006
4th revert: 17:05, 14 July 2006

Time report made: 17:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: A warning was given under the impression that the editor was new and unaware of the policy. An apology was made for that incorrect assumption. Ste4k 17:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Could Ste4k be specific what content I am reverting? I see only a lot of changes above, not a pattern of specific reverts. --Ben Houston 17:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not convinced this is 4R William M. Connolley 20:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

All reversions are specifically geared to avoid verification process of the article. Ste4k 04:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Astrotrain reported by User:Mais oui! (Result: No violation)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 08:51, 13 July 2006
1st revert: 19:15, 13 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:27, 14 July 2006
3rd revert: 19:44, 14 July 2006
4th revert: 19:50, 14 July 2006

Time report made: 20:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This is part of User:Astrotrain's efforts to escalate an already poor situation regarding a new editor's activities, see:

(Unsigned comment by User:Mais oui!)

I note this isn't a technical violation, there being 24 hours and 25 minutes spanning the four edits, but people: what the heck is going on here? Is this serving any purpose than variously, pushing an obscure 550-antedated POV, winding each other up, and correspondingly, allowing oneself to be wound up? I'd suggest that if "user" templates and categories are going to lurk in those namespaces, where they're shared with those with a direct encyclopaedic purpose, they at least try to follow generally accepted definitions. If Orcadians want to write essays on their un-Scottishness and extreme-Nordicality, that's their business, but mucking around with the category seems to me quite unwarranted. Alai 20:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

No violation here, 3RR is quite specific. Stifle (talk) 09:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:69.225.13.17 reported by User:Jeff3000 (Result:pages sprotected)

Previous version reverted to: 20:55, July 13, 2006
1st revert: 14:54, July 14, 2006
2nd revert: 15:05, July 14, 2006
3rd revert: 16:20, July 14, 2006
4th revert: 16:23, July 14, 2006
5th revert: 16:26, July 14, 2006
6th revert: 17:00, July 14, 2006
7th revert: 17:06, July 14, 2006

Time report made: 20:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User has been using different IPs, of which those have been blocked (see User:71.139.66.105 and User:69.226.105.161), but the user has evaded those blocks. Consensus by all other editors is that the link is non-notable, and linkspam. -- Jeff3000 20:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Previous version reverted to: 14:59, July 14, 2006
1st revert: 15:10, July 14, 2006
2nd revert: 15:39, July 14, 200
3rd revert: 16:13, July 14, 200
4th revert: 16:28, July 14, 2006

Time report made: Jeff3000 20:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

As he keeps using new IPs, I've sprotected the articles instead. Jayjg 21:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Weregerbil reported by User:Weregerbil (Result:no block)

Previous version reverted to: N/A, various edits to various starting versions
1st revert: 22:26, 14 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:49, 14 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:01, 14 July 2006
4th revert: 19:50, 14 July 2006
5th revert: 13:55, 14 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

23:20, 14 July 2006

Time report made: 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

If you think you violated 3RR you should simply self revert. Not doing so indicate that what you want is some "vindication" and this is indeed the reason why this report does not give a full acount of your edits in the last 24 hours, does not show why these are reverts (most of your edits are removal of material added by other editors in this fast pace article but you failed to show it) . In short, you should correct your misconduct instead of trying to make a WP:Point by filing this report on yourself. Zeq 06:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Yes, I'm reporting myself. No, this is not a WP:POINT thing. I'm genuinely interested if I really did break WP:3RR. User:Zeq is citing those edits as 3RR violation on my talk page. He gave me my "last warning" an hour ago but hasn't yet gotten around to reporting me. I have to step away from the computer soonish and I'd like to comment on this report before that, so I can't wait for User:Zeq to report me.

Should I have left the Worst case scenario (speculation/what some of us fear) WP:OR opinion essay in the article?
Should I have left the original legal research in the article? (Itself 7rr violation last I counted; discussed at length in talk and reverted by a number of editors).

Is removing those grounds for blocking? Do unrelated reverts with unrelated editors constitute an edit war? If I have exhausted my three reverts for a day in an article I am no longer allowed to do this?
One of the diffs moves a piece of text from one place to another. The remaining two are indeed reverts over the placement of that piece of text: whether Mr. Ehud Olmert's statement belongs in the WP:LEAD. That text placement issue should indeed be taken into talk. Weregerbil 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Weregerbil, 3RR is independent of quality of content and does not have to involve reverting to the same material, or reverting the same editors. Any revert counts toward 3RR. There are three exceptions: vandalism, defamation, and reverting the edits of a banned/blocked editor. The example you gave of material that needed to be removed counts as vandalism. It's a personal essay, and it doesn't matter that it's being inserted in good faith (which it probably is), because it's clearly in violation of several of our policies. In a situation like that, revert it and if someone keeps re-inserting it, leave a note on WP:AN/I or vandalism in progress asking for administrative assistance and state that you intend to keep reverting it as vandalism in the meantime. That will cover you for 3RR. SlimVirgin 07:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If I have done three other unrelated reverts (or what someone might consider to be reverts) and the personal essay appears, I should report that as vandalism in progress? Even though that is the first edit of that person? That feels kind of harsh towards the person inserting the essay: now you are a vandal and I'm reporting you to the authorities. WP:BITE?? That's what the WP:3RR rule says; is that really the intention of the rule? Then someone comes along and cites me for soliciting meatpuppets in order to get around 3RR...? Weregerbil 09:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest you look at all your edits in the last 24 hours. I have only listed few. Surly many of them are not just removing vandalism but normal reverts. I did not want to report you so this is why I warned you. The best is for you to avoid or self revert after you made too many reverts. Zeq 08:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't want "vindication". Please see WP:AGF.

I do a fair bit of WP:RCP which indeed involves reverting a wide range of vandalism, copyvios, spam, etc. For this reason I am genuinely interested if I have been violating WP:3RR all along. I surely haven't kept track of how many and which articles I edit to remove linkspam, or non-notable people inserting their birthdays in some specific day's article.

(The following gets a bit sidetracked as I'm more interested in how I really should act rather than the minutiae of these particular claims):

The edits listed above are exactly the edits you said constituted 3RR violation. Is there some other edit you would have liked me to list? You can see my edits in my contribution log. Here are the rest of my edits of 2006 Israel-Lebanon crisis, which ones are reverts that should be reported? : . You say most of my edits are removals: from my the twelve edits can you please list the seven removals that constitute misconduct and I should now self-revert? I'm concerned that if I re-add the nuclear war essay or international law WP:OR I'll really be in violation of WP:POINT. Is it specifically you want the prime minister's statement (which I moved) in the lead? Weregerbil 09:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

(Not in reply to any of the above threads.) WP:3RR states that the purpose of the policy is to prevent edit warring. Then there is the "no relation requirement": any four reverts count. In practical 3RR report resolution, which weighs more: whether the edits constitute edit warring, or a straight mathematical count of reverts, without consideration of the purpose of the policy? How much does admin judgement weigh against a straight one-two-three-four-OUT count in a typical 3RR report investigation? Does the "no relation requirement" sentence accurately reflect how the policy is applied in practice? Is this the wrong place to ask about this (where is better)? Weregerbil 18:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

No block. Note the instructions- "please ensure that you provide evidence that each one really was a revert"; as it is, I can't make head nor tail of this report. FWIW, IMHO we go by a straight mathematical count of reverts. Henry 18:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

A mathematical count is ...interesting. The 3RR is intended to stop edit wars. A quick glance at some reports here suggests it is occasionally used more like a first strike weapon in POV wars. An editor can easily be thrown out of the game if he has made even a single unrelated revert earlier: you can add your POV three times, if he reverts those you can kick him out due to his earlier unrelated revert. Max him out to three reverts, then he won't be able to remove anything you insert. If he reverts a fourth time you can demand he self-reverts or else; that way your own revert count won't get tarnished. Easy victory for a POV warrior if he knows the trick. Instead of preventing an edit war it can easily be used as a weapon in one. A desirable state of affairs...?

For amusement(?) here are some claims of a student owning his school, substance abuse, human rights violations, and STDs in said school, or reports of racist teachers (kudos for the phrasing in that one) — all reverted due to lack of sources; WP:AGF suggests they shouldn't be considered vandalism, merely unsourced edits. I guess I'll just have to hope nobody makes four such edits in a day...? Or start filing vandalism reports for the fourth schoolkid of the day for being silly at the wrong time (and damn WP:BITE guidelines). Weregerbil 18:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If you have consensus on your side, another editor will help out. If not, at worst you wait 24 hours for some cool down. On a page where noone else is willing to fix a problem, this should not matter. And again: Straight vandalism reverts are not counted against 3RR (BTW: I disagree that the addition of a personal OR essay is vandalism. It's bad and needs to be reverted, but it's not vandalism). If you find WP:3RR to cramp your style, try WP:1RR for a week ;-). --Stephan Schulz 18:53, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I mostly do WP:RCP. And I have a bunch of "medium value" targets on my watchlist (a handful of schools, handshake(?!), cuteness, stuff like that; high profile enough to have people put in silliness, not enough to have lots of people watching them). WP:1RR would be ..."interesting" with some of those. I don't have stats but I suspect the incoming flow of crap is greater than that in some articles, I'd just fall further and further behind.

Does the enforcement practice reflect the purpose of the policy (prevent edit wars)? Weregerbil 19:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Due to having removed completely unrelated nuclear war speculation and original legal research (see talk) an editor is fair game for "final warning, self-revert or else" ultimatums?
WP:3RR says the purpose of 3RR is to prevent edit warring. But in practice blocks are handed out on mathematical grounds with no regard to whether warring is taking place. Is it desirable that practice doesn't follow the intent of policy? Especially in a mechanism that can be exploited as an offensive weapon in edit warring, directly against the purpose of the policy?
Should I just quit whining; the process works the way it is supposed to? Or if it doesn't work it isn't about to get changed anyway; anything more complicated than mathematical 4=block is too open to interpretation and too much bother? The letter of the law is so much easier to enforce than its stated intent? Weregerbil 13:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

User:70.49.128.59 reported by User:JereKrischel (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 2:21 7/14
1st revert: 8:49
2nd revert: 11:17
3rd revert: 12:02
4th revert: 13:00
5th revert: 14:37
6th revert: 15:08
7th revert: 15:59

Time report made: 22:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Reported to vandalism unit, but no action occurred. Continues to post personal attacks to Talk:Mulatto, and hasn't been willing to engage in discussion. Have tried to be very polite, so far no use. --JereKrischel 22:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User continues reverts. Please undo his revert after blocking them. --JereKrischel 23:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

User continues reverts today as well. Other editors have joined in to help undo his vandalism. --JereKrischel 18:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Both blocked for 24 hours, stop the revert war Jaranda 18:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:JereKrischel reported by User:Kevin_b_er (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 20:41, July 13, 2006
1st revert: 06:41, July 14, 2006
2nd revert: 18:56, July 14, 2006
3rd revert: 19:47, July 14, 2006
4th revert: 21:40, July 14, 2006
5th revert: 22:24, July 14, 2006

The editor is aware of 3RR by the mere fact that, above, they've reported the person they are reverting. As nearest as I can tell, this is one big content dispute, and this is to uphold the electric fence. If it actually *is* vandalism in some manner, I apologise, but I can't see it. At best, one side thinks the other's facts are wrong, but if its in done in good faith, its not vandalism by either side, making it a 3RR violation. Kevin_b_er 00:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I suppose the difference between a "big content dispute" and vandalism may be hard to see - the IP vandal isn't making the argument that there are content issues, they're just simply reverting to versions already agreed as outdated and settled by all the other editors. Having a content dispute, and being willing to address the issues is one thing, but avoiding any constructive dialogue on the matter by User:70.49.128.59 seems to be disruptive to all the other editors on that page. Please see the history of Talk:Mulatto for examples of this behavior by the IP vandal. --JereKrischel 01:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

As an example of someone who might see it as simple vandalism, I got this reply when requesting page protection:

There is not enough recent activity to justify protection at this time. Just watchlist and revert any vandalism. Voice-of-All 00:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If my reverts to the IP vandal have somehow violated 3RR, I apologize - it has been my understanding from observing the page for a while that the things I have been reverting have been vandalism. Frankly, I don't have a particular POV on the content issue, but have tried to move the dispute to the talk page for compromise - and of course the talk page has now become an issue with personal attacks both against others, and me for merely suggesting that we assume good faith. I think it would be good to hear from other editors on that page to see what they think. --JereKrischel 02:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see this diff of Talk:Mulatto for my approach to this so far, and the IP vandal's response: --JereKrischel 02:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Keepondancing (sockpuppet of User:CAYA) reported by User:ChrisB (Result:Indef)

Previous version reverted to: 00:49, 13 July 2006
1st revert: 04:30, 14 July 2006
2nd revert: 18:27, 14 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:40, 15 July 2006
4th revert: 03:41, 15 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

(As User:CAYA)

Time report made: 03:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Part of a continuing edit war by now-banned user CAYA (talk · contribs). (Two prior 3RR violations took place this week, with the second earning his banning.) As for evidence of sockpuppetry, this user believes that citing a hard copy of a magazine constitutes original research, since he cannot see the magazine for himself. Extensive discussion (and consensus) emerged, yet he has ignored any and all discussion, simply removing the content. -- ChrisB 03:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Similar edits by User:CAYA and his sockpuppets:

As CAYA (talk · contribs): diff
As LOTAFOO (talk · contribs): diff
As Keepondancing (talk · contribs): diff

-- ChrisB 16:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked indef Jaranda 18:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Tyler111 reported by User:Questionfromjapan (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to:

1st revert: 13:41, 14 July 2006
2nd revert: 05:03, 15 July 2006
3rd revert: 06:05, 15 July 2006
4th revert: 09:17, 15 July 2006
5st revert: 10:22, 15 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here:

He violates 3RR just after the warning he confirmed.

Time report made: 11:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked.

User:Comanche cph reported by User:Inge (Result:48 hours (24 for 3RR, 24 for using the word "nationalist"))

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 13:06, 30 June 2006
1st revert: 13:35, 15 July 2006
2nd revert: 14:01, 15 July 2006
3rd revert: 17:06, 15 July 2006
4th revert: 17:41, 15 July 2006

Time report made: 16:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Has been blocked before for violating 3RR and other wiki policies on this and other articles.

Omg. Inge and the natiolist friends still wanna do anything to get rid of me, so Inge can start over again in writing unsourced and wrong stuff on wikipedia. After i keep cleaning up after her/him. I don't know what's worst? --Comanche cph 17:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

48 hours. Will (message me!) 17:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Comanche et al vs. consensus in Scandinavia

This editor, together with User:Supermos, which has been suspected, but not proved to be a sockpuppet (only edits are on Scandinavia) constantly pushes his/her own POV on Scandinavia, even to the point that he/she ignores direct quotes from the encyclopedias of Columbia , Britannica, and Encarta . I have no experience in RFA, protection, or similar procedures, so can an admin please help here? Greetings, --Janke | Talk 13:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Leuko reported by User:Spike 04:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: Further information needed)

Previous version reverted to: 13:50, July 4, 2006
1st revert: 09:56, July 14, 2006
2nd revert: 12:45, July 15, 2006
3rd revert: 16:39, July 15, 2006
4th revert: 16:58, July 15, 2006
5th revert: 17:24, July 15, 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

William M. Connolley 18:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Time report made: 04:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

5 Reverts in ~30 hours.

User Leuko has been warned for 3RR violations involving this article before as a registered user and as an anon. Possibly involved in sock puppetry per previous anon editing.

You have provided oldids, which are not useful for determining 3RR violations. Please provide diffs instead. Stifle (talk) 15:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

User:72.61.36.172 reported by User:CJCurrie (Result:Warning)

Previous version reverted to: 00:44 15 July 2006
1st revert: 04:17 15 July 2006
2nd revert: 13:38 15 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:19 15 July 2006
4th revert: 22:39 15 July 2006
5th revert: 03:19 16 July 2006
6th revert: 04:10 16 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

03:28 16 July 2006

Time report made: 04:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

That is not a warning diff, that's a revert. Warning issued on the IP's talk page now. Stifle (talk) 15:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Truthwanted reported by User:Agathoclea (Result: 48h)

Three revert rule violation on Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 192.117.103.90 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and WP:SOCK Truthwanted (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)}:

Previous version reverted to: Revision as of 17:03, 15 July 2006 and earlier
1st revert: Revision as of 22:35, 15 July 2006
2nd revert: Revision as of 11:17, 16 July 2006
3rd revert: Revision as of 15:06, 16 July 2006
4th revert: Revision as of 18:34, 16 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Revision as of 00:21, 16 July 2006 (192.117.103.90)
Revision as of 00:21, 16 July 2006 (Truthwanted)
Previous Blocks on for 3RR and blockevation

Time report made: 21:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Truthwanted for sock evidence Agathoclea 21:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

48h William M. Connolley 21:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Afrika paprika reported by User:KOCOBO (Result:Protection of the page)

Previous version reverted to: 01:56, 16 July 2006
1st revert: 17:43, 16 July 2006
2nd revert: 17:51, 16 July 2006
3rd revert: 17:59, 16 July 2006
4th revert: 21:22, 16 July 2006

Time report made: 21:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Afrika Paprika keeps removing referenced materials, and is constantly pushing his POV. As a first offence, I propose an 8 hr block. Thank you, --KOCOBO 21:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I was going to make it 12h, but since you're proposing 8 I'll make it 3 - I don't see any warnings on his talk page. And Leaving GO AWAY messages is not helpful William M. Connolley 21:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

The user under the name "KOCOBO" is doing the same thing...in fact my editing is a direct conseqence of his editing. The prime example is Nikola Tesla article where he constantly promotes his extreme rightist propaganda. I consider that that since he cannot accept Tesla was also a Croatian scientist(which he publicly acknowledged) that then at least the reference should be removed since the article describes it in detail anyway. Afrika Paprika 08:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Both users violoated the 3RR rule, I have protected the page, so the users could find a compromize on the talk page abakharev 06:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:66.214.118.69 reported by User:User:UCRGrad (Result: No infringement)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert: DiffTime

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Warning #1 by admin
Warning #1 by user
Warning #2 by different user
Warning 3 by different user
BLOCK #1 by admin
Warning by different user
Warning by ADMIN that user is in danger of BAN
BLOCK #2 by admin

Time report made: 23:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user has already been blocked twice for 3RR and warned countless times for vandalism. Would the admins consider a BAN for this user?

</nowiki>

Please note that there must be 4 reverts listed - reports with only 3 will be removed. The "previous version reverted to" is there to show that the first revert really is a revert - it should be filled in to a previous version of the page which the first revert reverts to.

No infringement here. Only three reverts Stifle (talk) 09:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Mackan reported by User:Hatto Result: No infringement.

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 14:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User deleted sentences by me and others 4 times at least. Although I called him "please don't remove it" many times, he kept removing sentences you think "it's useless or nonessential" at his own discretion. This is extremely unfair deletion. --Hatto 14:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Please read the rules. Its 4R *in 24h* not *ever* William M. Connolley 16:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:DrL reported by User:ScienceApologist (Result: 8h)

Previous version reverted to: 00:53, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 06:13, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 07:09, 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 07:16, 17 July 2006
4th revert: 08:24, 17 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

07:18, 17 July 2006

Time report made: 15:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: I've fixed the diffs to show the changes actually made. DrL is reverting continued attempts—begun in the last twenty-four hours and lacking consensus—to delete nearly the entire article, and is restoring content of which the bulk has existed since the article's creation in September 2005. Tim Smith 16:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like 3RR to me, and blocked accordingly. 8h first offence William M. Connolley 16:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Khosrow II reported by User:Grandmaster (Result: 3h)

Previous version reverted to: 21:09, 16 July 2006
1st revert: 00:58, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:26, 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:09, 17 July 2006
4th revert: 21:03, 17 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

DiffTime

Time report made: 17:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user is not a new, so he should be aware of 3RR. Grandmaster 17:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I can see no evidence that you bothered to warm about 3RR; 3h first offence William M. Connolley 17:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

User:HighwayCello reported by User:User:Wikipedian06 (Result: innocent)

Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon

5 reverts within 24 hours
1st revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=64285475&oldid=64285023
2nd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=64016495&oldid=64016377
3rd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=64015977&oldid=64015126
4th revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=63988303&oldid=63988237
5th revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Unknown_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=63988237&oldid=63987905

Wikipedian06 19:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment there is no 3RR. Some of them aren't reverts. I only counted three in a 24hr span. Dismissed.Blnguyen | rant-line 05:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Jaiwills reported by User:Catamorphism (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 23:00 15 July 2006
1st revert: 04:25 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 21:16 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:28 18 July 2006
4th revert: 03:40 18 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Haven't warned the user, but the user has been warned about various policy violations before and ought to be familiar with Misplaced Pages policy by now.

Time report made: 03:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User continues to revert after being asked to provide reliable sources. User provided two sources (on the talk page rather than in the article); I explained that these were not good sources (one source was a mirror of an old version of the article); user continued to revert after that. User has also made repeated personal attacks, refuses to use edit summaries, and has marked all of the reversions as "minor edits". Catamorphism 03:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Already blocked by another admin for 24 hours Jaranda 05:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Isarig reported by User:FeloniousMonk (Result: No infringement)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 21:16, 16 July
2nd revert: 11:32, 17 July
3rd revert: 20:52, 17 July
4th revert: 21:47, 17 July
5th revert: 22:16, 17 July

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

18:02, 15 June

Time report made: 05:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Isarig is aware of the 3RR policy, previous warnings are present on his talk page he has been blocked for 3RR before:

FeloniousMonk should learn to count, or alternatively, learn to tell time. The 4th revert is more 24 hours after the first revert, and the "5th revert" is not a revert at all. Isarig 05:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

"The 4th revert is more 24 hours" By only 30 minutes, which indicates intentional gaming of the system, something we need not tolerate from chronic edit warriors. And the 4th diff is certainly is a revert: It shows you restoring content I'd just removed. What part of "...undoing the actions of another editor or other editors in whole or part ." is not clear? FeloniousMonk 15:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It appears that you are trying to overextend the 3RR in order to gain advantage in a content dispute. Homey 19:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It appears that you're taking each and every opportunity to attack people who disagree with you. SlimVirgin 16:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it appears I was asked to look at this and I agree with other admins who have ruled against action in this case. Homey 16:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't necessarily recommend blocks for infingements made a day or two previously, so, since Isarig wasn't blocked at the time, I'd personally be inclined to leave this now (and to let him consider himself lucky). But I wonder was the report rejected too hastily? The fifth revert, which Isarig says was not a revert at all, had as edit summary "restored Ailes argument". I don't know how "restoring" something can be anything other than a revert, unless Isarig was restoring something that he himself had taken out. The policy page says here that "there is no requirement for the reverts to be related: any four reverts on the same page count." AnnH ♫ 16:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Doughface reported by User:Stifle (talk) (Result: 24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 14:35, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 16:22
2nd revert: 18:44
3rd revert: 18:55
4th revert: 20:16

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

19:26

Time report made: 09:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Blocked for 24 hours. Also a block on the other party, HiramShadraski. --Chris S. 13:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ED209 reported by User:JamesTeterenko (Result: 8h)

Previous version reverted to: 00:58, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 01:24, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 01:49, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 02:17, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 05:09, 18 July 2006
5th revert: 17:33, 18 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

02:54, 18 July 2006

Time report made: 14:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

8h William M. Connolley 18:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:212.85.1.2 reported by User:Netaji (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ram_Janmabhoomi&oldid=63137089

1st revert: 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 18 July 2006
4th revert: 18 July 2006

Time report made: 15:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This is my first report of a 3RR violation. If I have made mistakes then please accept apologies in advance. I strongly suspect that this user is a sockpuppet of user (Anwar saadat) who has been recently blocked for a week. Please look into this matter

24h for this and other disruptinve behaviour William M. Connolley 18:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ThePromenader reported by User:Hardouin (Result: 24h, then unblocked)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 22:04, July 15, 2006

1st revert: 15:06, July 18, 2006
2nd revert: 16:32, July 18, 2006
3rd revert: 17:07, July 18, 2006
4th revert: 17:28, July 18, 2006

Time report made: 17:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User:ThePromenader has so far avoided serious sanctions due to the support of some admins. I think this time the four reverts are obvious and undeniable. In detail, Promenader's reverts consist mainly in demerging a merged list of tallest buildings in Paris and suburbs to create two separate lists (one for the City of Paris proper, the other for the suburbs). That attitude is all the more bizarre because this user previously said in the talk page that he found the idea of two separate lists stupid and that he was in favor of one single list. Now he's changed his mind (because, says he, he is unsatisfied with the title of the article), and so come the four reverts. Hardouin 17:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems fair enough. 24h William M. Connolley 18:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems fair enough but now you've unblocked him based on a vague promise that he wouldn't infringe the 3RR again. It's quite discouraging honestly that admins are so lenient with this guy despite his history or revert wars and hot-blooded behavior. Can someone check on this? If anyone breaking the 3RR is unblocked as soon as they promise they won't do it again, then there is no 3RR anymore. Hardouin 19:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

If you violate the three-revert rule, you may be blocked. It's discretionary, and up to the blocking admin. It is designed to prevent sterile revert wars, not for punishment. Stifle (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Joehazelton reported by User:goethean (Result: 8h)

Previous version reverted to: 21:17, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 23:05, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 13:01, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 13:46, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 14:13, 18 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

User:Taeguk_Warrior reported by User:User:Komdori Komdori (Result: 12h)

Previous version reverted to: 13:13, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 00:11, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 01:10, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 15:52, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 19:03, 18 July 2006
5th revert: 19:20, 18 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

19:09, 18 July 2006

Time report made: 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User makes edit comments such as "(Are you fuckin crazy?)" when reverting.

12h for first offence+incivility William M. Connolley 20:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Abab reported by User:User:Komdori (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert: 18:21, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:49, 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:15, 17 July 2006
4th revert: 21:31, 17 July 2006

Time report made: 22:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Not only is this a 3RR violation, but the user keeps doing the reverts without discussion. User is relatively new, but has had the warning placed on their talk page before 17 July 2006. It's particularly irritating since this user tends to revert without discussion on other pages as well.

You have provided oldids, not diffs. This report cannot be considered without diffs. Stifle (talk) 09:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I apologize; first time reporting. Here they are, corresponding to the above linkes:

1st revert: 18:21, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:49, 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:15, 17 July 2006
4th revert: 21:31, 17 July 2006

Hopefully this is what you wanted. Apologies! Komdori 14:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Just realized, perhaps I'm to move it down after providing the info? Komdori 19:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours. Extraordinary Machine 20:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Intangible reported by User:AaronS (Result:24h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 17:51, 18 July 2006
1st revert: 17:51, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 18:18, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 19:31, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 19:38, 18 July 2006

Time report made: 19:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: The above user keeps adding a POV tag without adequately explaining why. When finally pressed to explain, the only thing he could offer was a dubious source bordering on WP:OR. --AaronS 19:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

This 3RR report is bogus. User:AaronS removed an edit I made which was properly cited from a reputable source in a scholarly journal Political Science Quarterly. The only thing I am left with then is to put up a dispute tag, which in this case I did, using Template:NPOV. What else is left for me to indicate a dispute? About the "adequately explaining why", after User:AaronS removed my edit, I immediately went to the talk page of the concerned article: Talk:Anarchism. At least on other user there concured with me, that my inclusion had merit. But instead of having a discussion, User:AaronS wants to remove the NPOV tag from the article, as if there is no discussion at all on the talk page! Intangible 20:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I left a note on your talk page. You never addressed the article on the talk page until the second or third revert. I really can't be bothered to find out which one at the moment. The fact of the matter is that, instead of engaging in discussion, you decided to edit war. You only replied to my note on your talk page after another user warned you that you had violated WP:3RR and I had reported you. 'Nuff said. --AaronS 20:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

We can't have anarchy on anarchism :-) 24h William M. Connolley 20:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:12.180.244.85 reported by User:Kurt Shaped Box (Result: 31h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 18:45, 17 July 2006
1st revert: 21:09, 17 July 2006
2nd revert: 22:32, 17 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:19, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 04:31, 18 July 2006
5th revert: 12:36, 18 July 2006
6th revert: 20:44, 18 July 2006

Time report made: 21:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user seems intent on removing links to http://www.mandymoore.com and http://www.mooreofmandy.com from the article without explaining his/her reasoning for doing so. He/she has been notifed of the existence of the 3RR on their talk page, yet has continued to revert without discussion, also ignoring (and removing) an inline comment placed by User:RicDod requesting that the user discusses the issue on the article's talk page before reverting again. --Kurt Shaped Box 21:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

In addition, the anon above has now been blocked for 31 hours by User:HappyCamper, only for User:MMFan to perform precisely the same edit shortly afterwards . This user's history consists entirely of edits to remove the above two links from the Mandy Moore article. I suspect that it's the same person. --Kurt Shaped Box 00:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Boothman reported by User:violet/riga (t) (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to: 21:42, 17 July 2006

1st revert: 15:55, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:56, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:10, 18 July 2006

3RR warning: 21:14, 18 July 2006

4th revert: 21:45, 18 July 2006

There is a dispute between Boothman (et al) and Darwinek resulting in an RfC. Darwinek didn't want the comments there, but Boothman claims them to be warnings (which should not be removed). I will leave it up to others to decide if this is a valid 3RR break as I am involved myself and understand Boothman's motivation and interpretation of the comments being "warnings". violet/riga (t) 21:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

24h William M. Connolley 07:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:violet/riga (t) reported by User:Boothman (Result:No violation)

1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:

Ditto the above about the dispute. Personally I think the 3 revert rule shouldn't really be applied here, but seen as Violetriga so kindly took the initiative I only felt emplored to apply it myself. I'm not sure I've done this right either, but ho hum. -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 22:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC).

This is only three reverts and thus not valid. violet/riga (t) 22:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I told you I didn't do this right ;) Still, I find it strange that User:Avril fan then decided to rv that page when your fourth revert was "due". Funny that, a person who had no previous dealings with that page suddenly took it upon themselves to revert it... -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 22:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC).

True, but then you could've said that about my first revert. If you are shouting "sock puppet" then do please check our edit histories or call for a checkuser. I guarantee that there is no link between us. violet/riga (t) 22:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with all these terms, I'm only a noob. And anyway, you could use a Phproxy to do your deeds (which is not what I'm suggesting). -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 22:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC).

Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry & Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser. I really wouldn't go to such trouble, and while it would be easy enough to use a proxy it is quite easy to identify (and all known ones are blocked). violet/riga (t) 22:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

For the record, there is no violation here - a fourth revert would create one though. Stifle (talk) 22:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Byrgenwulf reported by User:Tim Smith (Result:Protected)

First violation:

1st revert: 14:20, 13 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
2nd revert: 15:04, 13 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
3rd revert: 15:29, 13 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
4th revert: 17:19, 13 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)

Second violation:

1st revert: 14:24, 17 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
2nd revert: 20:12, 17 July 2006 (reverts this edit)
3rd revert: 20:53, 17 July 2006 (reverts change from "claims to have" to "has")
4th revert: 07:27, 18 July 2006 (reverts change from "no" to "little")

Time report made: 22:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

This edit (14:17, 13 July 2006) shows that Byrgenwulf knew about 3RR before the first violation.

2006-07-19 00:19:59 Voice of All (Talk | contribs | block) m (+protected) William M. Connolley 07:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ScienceApologist reported by User:Tim Smith (Result: Protected)

1st revert: 14:06, 18 July 2006 (reverts this edit)
2nd revert: 14:37, 18 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
3rd revert: 18:58, 18 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)
4th revert: 19:25, 18 July 2006 (reverts previous edit)

Time report made: 23:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

2006-07-19 00:19:59 Voice of All (Talk | contribs | block) m (+protected) William M. Connolley 07:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:KillerChihuahua reported by User:Tx9 (Result: Article protected)

1st revert: (reverts previous edit)
2nd revert: (reverts previous edit)
3rd revert: (reverts previous edit)
4th revert: (reverts to this version )

Additionally, user has made improper rollbacks in the discussion page of the article.

Time report made: Tx9 00:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: 4th revert is a forgery - review closely.. Hipocrite - «Talk» 01:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Legit. Wrong URL. Fixed. Tx9 01:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Incomplete report - times of diffs? Guettarda 01:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- These are versions, not diffs. Guettarda 01:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - I'l save everyone some time, as it appears Tx9 is unfamiliar with the process. After all, listing me here was his/her first edit. I reverted three times, and made a , fourth completely different edit. :KillerChihuahua 07:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Woah, just saw the accusation of rollbacks to the talk page - this is complete bollocks. I made no rollbacks to the talkpage, I have made two edits total to the talk page and neither removed any content or refactored any content. KillerChihuahua 08:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    - I'd think this would be a rather odd place for a first edit, wouldn't you? Jim62sch 09:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I think its rather odd that is all this user has done - report me, falsely, for 3RR and made the (again false) accusation that I reverted the talk page. See Special:Contributions/Tx9. Does this qualify as an attack account? KillerChihuahua 11:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe it is an attack account, I don't know if it actually qualifies, but what's false about the report? I'm looking at the article history now, you have reverts all on 18 July - 15:46, 15:49, 15:51 for the "history" section, and 19:08 reverting back to Jossi's edit. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Which is precisely what I said: I made the same edit 3 times, then dropped the issue. Later, Jossi made a different edit, which I thought was a better idea for the article than the one I'd had. I made one revert to his version. 3 same, one different edit. And what about the bullshit claim I rolled back the talk page? KillerChihuahua 12:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    - Yeah, that's 4 reverts in less than 4 hours. It doesn't make it a "false" report. I don't know what the discussion rollback is about, perhaps it was a complaint about you using the rollback button to blank the "history" section, which is the non-vandalism rollback I'm seeing that might make sense. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
You obviously don't understand 3RR. It isn't "made 4 reverts." The issue is whether the article is returned to the user's preferred version, singular. I did not do that. KillerChihuahua 12:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- In re-checking my edits, I only reverted to my preferred version two times, so I'm not even close. KillerChihuahua 12:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Your "preferred version" is irrelevant to the policy. From "in a nutshell": "Do not revert any single page in whole or in part more than three times in 24 hours, except in the case of obvious, simple vandalism." Are we even looking at the same page? As an aside, I see you think I'm Tx9, now, which is extremely amusing. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    - I tried one way to improve the article, and it was reverted twice and I reverted back to it twice, with edit summaries explaining why I thought the edit was an improvement to the article. The edit did not meet with support, so I dropped it. Later, Jossi made an edit, was reverted, and I reverted back to his edit one time. Now, even if you're counting completely different edits as the same, that's 3 not 4. But since it was two completely different versions of the article, that's 2 on one, and 1 on one. Its not whether you edit a previous version, or use the rollback button, or popups - its whether you return the article wholly or substantially to the same as a previous version. And it can take more edits than 3 to 3RR- if you revert partially in one edit, then the rest of the way in another edit, that's a reversion. KillerChihuahua 12:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
      - The "history" section was gone, it was then replaced by User:Karwynn. You then reverted it, removing the history section (the first revert). Paco reverted you, and you rolled him back (the second revert). Paco reverted your rollback, you reverted him again (the third revert). You then stopped with the history section. Jossi would later boldly remove "all unsourced or poorly sourced" text, which would have 14 edits slowly putting information back in. You reverted to Jossi's version with the summary "Agree w/Jossi..." (the fourth revert). Call me a sockpuppet, assume bad faith, be rude with something like "reversionism 101," but don't claim that this is false, because it doesn't appear to be. --badlydrawnjeff talk 13:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
      - Um...Reverting, in this context, means undoing the actions of another editor or other editors in whole or part. It does not necessarily mean taking a previous version from history and editing that. A revert may involve as little as adding or deleting a few words or even one word.. It's a very simple rule. It does not have to be a revert to the same version, or of the same thing, or whatever.--Stephan Schulz 12:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Which again I say, even if you interpret it that way, I have 3 not 4, and to two different versions. This is nonsense. KillerChihuahua 13:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you think you're entitled to a quota or something? 3RR was created to stop edit wars. I ought to know, I helped draft the original rule (so long ago I don't even remember when). I know the temptation can be overwhelming to "hammer home" an edit (I think I even got blocked once myself, heh :-) but there's really no excuse for edit warring. That's why each article comes with a discussion page! --Uncle Ed 14:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Too true, Ed, and I plead guilty to minor edit warring, something I'm rarely (but obviously not never) guilty of. I've taken Jaranda's good advice and am not editing the page. I've made four edits total to the article, trying to remove content which was unsourced or sourced from blogs. The article is a mess, Ed - one of the sources currently is "The Washington Post" - but its not mentioned at all in the article linked to. bah. KillerChihuahua 14:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
If details of the diffs are added, I or another admin will then investigate this. Stifle (talk) 22:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- rv one, 15:46, rv two with improper rollback, 15:49, rv three, 15:51, all of which revert to this version with the "history" section removed. rv four, 19:08 reverted 13 edits back to this version. --badlydrawnjeff talk 22:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Since the article is protected, and 3RR is not for punishment, I think we're done here. Yes, it's a violation, but blocking would in my opinion serve no useful purpose. Stifle (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    - So User:SchmuckyTheCat gets screwed, blocked after it was protected, and nothing happens here. I don't know why I'm shocked by this. --badlydrawnjeff talk 23:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Mulatto_-_Mestizo reported by User:EurAfrican (Result:Both Indef)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 00:59, 19 July 2006
1st revert: 00:44, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 00:46, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:47, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 00:49, 19 July 2006

Time report made: 01:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Even though I won the debate in the Discussion section still won't "accept" my contributions to the article

I blocked both indef as likely socks and two others for a week. Silly revert warning Jaranda 01:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:SchmuckyTheCat reported by User:Hipocrite (Result: 24h and protected)

1st revert: 20:25, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:53, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:38, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 00:48, 19 July 2006

Notification: Not made - however, user is an experienced wikipedian and should know better - also, see comments on his talk page regarding his belief he is "entitled" to multiple reverts, and reverting the stubbifying of an article is synonymous to reverting blanking (no good-fath edit can be considered vandalism)

Time report made: 01:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

What a mess... still, looks like 3RR... hmm, better be 24h then William M. Connolley 10:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ben-w reported by User:Hipocrite (Result: 8h)

1st revert: 00:03, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 00:13, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 03:08, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 03:16, 19 July 2006

Notification: 00:49, 19 July 2006

Comments: Also a blatent violation of WP:BLP.

Time report made: 04:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

8h William M. Connolley 07:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Mantion reported by User:Nloth (Result: 8h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:

1st revert: 04:18, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 03:13, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 23:38, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 08:01, 18 July 2006

User:Mantion was warned about WP:3RR prior to 4th revert, but removed the warning from their talk page:

Time report made: 04:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

8h first offence William M. Connolley 07:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:AaronS reported by User:-- Vision Thing -- (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to: 17:26, 18 July 2006
1st revert: 17:42, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 18:07, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 19:36, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 13:55, 19 July 2006

Time report made: 14:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

24h

User:Rootology reported by User:Hipocrite (Result: Article currently protected)

1st revert: 00:44, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 06:10, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 06:17, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 14:08, 19 July 2006

Notification: 07:17, 19 July 2006 user admits to 3rr violation before 4th listed revert.

Comments: Reverted after commenting that he had already violated 3rr, and after the other parties to the dispute had agreed to stop editing the article - Talk:Encyclopædia_Dramatica#Edit_summary.

Time report made: 14:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

No agreement was made--this is a false representation. Also, I said I "think" I did. I admitted to nothing. rootology 15:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

To be clear, this user agreed to nothing, but the other parties agreed to stop reverting - that being KillerChihuahua who may have 4 reverts, and myself, with one. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverts were made due to bias from Hipocrite and MONGO based on previous 3rd party attack on Mongo. Please review AfD in this case and links to complaints about these admins Admin desk as additional evidence. Two admins are engaging multiple editors in borderline edit warring over an article whose topic they do not like. Thanks for consideration. rootology 15:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Hipocrite reported by User:Rootology (Result: Article currently protected)

1st revert: 13:10, July 18, 2006
2nd revert: 13:29, July 18, 2006
3rd revert: 14:20, July 18, 2006
4th revert: 17:44, July 18, 2006

Notification: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica#Edit_summary - client has expressed hostile editing tone, and along with other admin MONGO has gone aggressively after article, and only today has made attempts to in-depth discuss the content they keep trying to remove on talk page.

Comments: Extensive additional editing to the Article in question can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?offset=&limit=500&target=Hipocrite&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=0

Time report made: 15:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

First edit is a grammer correction - changing "Encyclopædia Dramatica is a MediaWiki-based wiki, as a Misplaced Pages-style collection of LiveJournal events and Internet phenomenon|Internet memes. " to "Encyclopædia Dramatica is a MediaWiki-based wiki, designed as a Misplaced Pages-style collection of LiveJournal events and Internet phenomenon|Internet memes." is not a revert. I did not review the other edits yet. I expect they are of equally low validity. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Clarified list in case of dispute from user:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64672908

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64572493

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64531555

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64527928

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64522235

rootology 15:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64672908 this is an edit, not a revert, inserting a tag instead of reverting information. Said tag had never been placed in the section before.Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64572493 this is my listed revert. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64531555 this is an edit, not a revert, as it was the first time the information was questioned. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64527928 this is an edit, not a revert, as it was the first stubification of the article. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64522235 this is an edit, not a revert, as it was the first inclusion of the details of the statistics. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

In conclusion, this is a retributative report. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a retributive post, and your reverts were undoing changes by other editors--calling them edits is spin, but that is for other neutral admins to review based on whole history. rootology 15:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Rootology reported by User:Guettarda (Result: Article currently protected)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 00:10, 19 July 2006 (Restores information removed in this edit)
2nd revert: 00:44, 19 July 2006 (Restores information removed in this edit)
3rd revert: 06:10, 19 July 2006 (Reverts this edit by MONGO)
4th revert: 06:17, 19 July 2006 (Reverts this edit by MONGO; edit summary identifies edit as a revert)
5th revert: 14:08, 19 July 2006 (restores information removed in this edit, but changes the source)

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

06:37, 19 July 2006; also shows awareness of the 3RR in his/her edit summary here

Time report made: 15:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

There appear to be more reverts within the last 24 hours, but I don't have the patience to verify them; five seems sufficient for starters. Guettarda 15:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverts were made due to bias and attack edits from Hipocrite and MONGO based on previous 3rd party attack on Mongo. Please review AfD in this case and links to complaints about these admins Admin desk as additional evidence. Two admins are engaging multiple editors in borderline edit warring over an article whose topic they do not like. Thanks for consideration. rootology 15:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

And that justifies breaking the 3RR in what way? Guettarda 15:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It does not, I am putting into context what is possible admin bias from Hipocrite and MONGO into the context of what happened in this case, given that the genesis of all of this was a personal attack on MONGO from the website the article in question covers. rootology 15:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Rex_Germanus reported by User:Str1977 (Result:blocked 31 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 11:00, 30 June, 2006

1st revert: 09:05 18 July
2nd revert: 18:16, 18 July
3rd revert: 18:53, 18 July
4th revert: 19:09, 18 July removed a {{fact}} tag added by previous editor
5th revert: 19:43 18 July removed the fact tag again.
6th revert: 22:04, 18 July reinserted content again.
7th revert: 08:43, 19 July reinserted content.
8th revert: 11:28, 19 July removed content.

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

This user has been blocked twice before for 3RR, so is aware of the rule.

Time report made: Str1977 15:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: I'm not sure if all those reverts "count", of they don't I think I see a problem with the required 24 hours, and neither am I sure about this so called proof of me being "warned" is appropriate or even valid. In any way, I'm prepared to be blocked for the number of hours that fitt "my terrible offenses". Rex 17:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

All these diffs lie in a period of 24 hours before 19 July, 11:28. You know about the rule, having been blocked twice for similar violations. BTW, what is the "appropriate page" for dropping a short line? Str1977 17:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked the user for thirty-one hours. Tom Harrison 17:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:67.38.247.32 reported by User:Endroit (Result:3h)

Previous version reverted to: 00:35, 19 July 2006
1st revert: 00:35, 19 July 2006 - 01:57, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 01:57, 19 July 2006 - 02:22, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 02:57, 19 July 2006 - 03:14, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 03:14, 19 July 2006 03:19, 19 July 2006
5th revert: 06:18, 19 July 2006 - 15:29, 19 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

00:30, 19 July 2006 - 02:34, 19 July 2006

Time report made: 15:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Appears to be a sockpuppet of Breathejustice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), working together to edit against consensus.
Diffs aren't easy to follow, but it is valid - 3 hour block. Stifle (talk) 22:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Duncharris reported by User:WaysAndMeans (Result: )

Previous version reverted to: 23:04, 10 July 2006
1st revert: 20:23, 18 July 2006 Edit summary is "Reverted edits by 64.246.219.196"
2nd revert: 13:47, 19 July 2006 Edit summary is "Reverted edits by 64.246.219.196"
3rd revert: 15:11, 19 July 2006 Edit summary is "Reverted edits by 64.246.219.196"
4th revert: 19:33, 19 July 2006 Edit summary is "Reverted edits by Diggnate "

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

18:27, 19 July 2006 User was warned about 3RR before making his 4th edit, yet proceeded in his edit war.

Time report made: 20:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User:Duncharris indicted in his own edit summaries that he is reverting other editors' work, so was clearly awar of the nature of his reverts

First revert is cleaning up spurious text inserted into the article. While it may or may not count as vandalism, removing stray text falls under the vandalism provision. Guettarda 20:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, this is true. I'm also interested in how WaysandMeans, a user with few edits and none on the page in question, stumbled across this alleged violation. This and other qurestions pique my mind. Jim62sch 21:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - No, this is not true. This is not "stray text", but text inserted, 3 times, by anonymous user 64.246.219.196, who apparently wants the article to note that the topic under discussion has been rebutted. This is a clear content dispute. The vandalism provision only protects cases of simple vandalism, which this is not. And not that it is in any way relevant to the 3RR violation, the answer to your question is simple, User:Duncharris has been deleting my edits, without any explantion, on a different page, so I wanted to see what else he's been up to, and caught him using the same tactic on this page.WaysAndMeans 21:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    - " The following paragraph needs to identify the "series" being discussed as the PBS "Evolution" series. " - that looks like stray text to me. Removing that is trivially different from reverting vandalism. Guettarda 23:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
      - That may be stray text, but it is not the text that was reverted. As the Diff shows, what we are talking about is the removal of the following text: "which has since been rebutted by fellows at the Discovery Institute. " WaysAndMeans 23:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'd've reverted them too, as would anyone familiar with the facts regarding Behe. Essentially though, you just admitted to Wikistalking, a far, far worse violation than any 3RR might ever be. You might want to think this all the way through. Also, for someone with 10 edits that aren't on this page, you seem to know an awful lot about Wiki. Just an observation of course, some folks are quick studies. Jim62sch 21:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - If you'd have reverted them 4 times, you'd be just as guilty of a 3RR violation, and I'd have reported you, too. But thanks for confirming that this is a content dispute ("as would anyone familiar with the facts regarding Behe"), rather than what you falsely claimed earlier ("stray text"). As to your charge of wikistalking and other nonsense: (1) Two wrongs don't make a right, and my actions are irrelevant to the fact that User:Duncharris violated 3RR, after being warned. (2) You may have been editing longer than I have, but you have not yet understood some of the basics of WP. Misplaced Pages:Harassment#Wikistalking is "following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor. This is distinct from following a contributor in order to clear repeated errors." and "Once an editor has given reason to suspect bad faith, monitoring is appropriate" . It is clearly permissable to follow a user around to clear repeated errors, and it is clearly permissable to follow a user around to report a repeated pattern of violations of WP policy. WaysAndMeans 21:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Tsk, tsk...I did not say this was a content dispute, now did I? I think not. Separate issues really, aren't they? Additionally, based on your interesting reading of the parameters of wikistalking, that fact that you were reverted on the Behe article by Dunc (and by other editors, a fact you fail to mention), is sufficicient to suspect bad faith? I think not. In addition, the "in order to clear repeated errors" is irrelevant as well as the editors who reverted you explained why in the edit summary. Are you saying that other editors we committing the same "repeated errors"? Whether this is wikistalking or mere trolling really makes no difference: your report appears to have been made in bad faith. Jim62sch 22:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  - My report was made in good faith, in the interest of stopping an edit-warrior who was repeatedly reverting other editors' changes, without any explantion or discussion, on multiple pages related to the same topic. What appears to be done in bad faith here is your attempt to prevent this violation from being properly investigated, by casting aspertions on the motives of the editor who reported this. WaysAndMeans 23:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously, POV is playing a part here -- you say you want an investigation, well, IRL an investigation needs to be exhaustive and the question of why something was reported is a valid one when the report seems to be in some way questionable. Thus, my questioning of the "why" is made not in "bad faith", but in the interest of a fair investigation. Additionally, you ignored the issue of your edits being reverted by other editors as well. To you, that you were reverted by others may not seem important, but it most certainly is important as it indicates that some type of problem exists with the edits. Additionally, you charge edit-warring -- what, pray tell were you doing by reinserting the same essential edit three times running? Jim62sch 09:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The previous version reverted to was not filled in, so it is unclear that there were four reverts. If this is added, the issue can be investigated further. Stifle (talk) 22:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've added the previous version reverted to (which, BTW, was specified in the edit summary by User:Duncharris "Reverted edits by 64.246.219.196 (talk) to last version by Jason Potter"). Please continue with your investigation. WaysAndMeans 23:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Another item: the alleged 3RR warning appears to be invalid as it specifies no particular page on which the potential infraction might take place, and is not a true warning in that it does not include the standard verbiage, even in an altered form, which is the inclusion of a brief statement of the policy. Jim62sch 09:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  - A warning is not mandatory. In fact, many administrators have explictly objected to making it mandatory It is a nice to have, to ensure the violater is aware of policy, especially in the case of new users. Many 3RR violations are reported either without a warning at all, or with a note that the violator was warned and/or blocked for 3RR before, even if the previous incident happened months ago. In this case, it is obvious that User:Duncharris is aware of the relevant policy, and of the page being discussed, as he himself placed a 3RR warning on the page of the user he was edit warring with, and the 3RR on his page is that user's repsonse. You are clutching at straws and are avoiding dealing with the actual violation, which makes one question what your real motive here is. WaysAndMeans 22:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Bubba ditto reported by User:Catamorphism (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 00:01 13 March 2006
1st revert: 23:59 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 00:05 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 00:15 20 July 2006
4th revert: 00:18 20 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

00:17 20 July 2006

Time report made: 00:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User has been blocked for other 3RR violations in the past. Catamorphism 00:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours. --Chris S. 02:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The block expired and the user has returned to make the exact same revert. Some guidance as to what to do, please? It seems pointless to wait for the user to revert 3 times before they are blocked again, and it's already been explained to them why their edit is unacceptable. Catamorphism 18:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Xtra reported by User:66.196.42.80 (Result: No violation)

Previous version reverted to: 22:29 19 July 2006 VersionTime
1st revert: 00:30 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 11:18, 19 July 2006
3rd revert: 12:13, 19 July 2006
4th revert: 12:19 19 July 2006

Time report made: 02:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

\'\'\'Comments:\'\'\'

User:Xtra is editing a page according to his own personal bias, depsite the fact the article is referenced correctly by statements made by transcript. The user is in the habit of editing according to his own political biases, and fails to comprehend the NPOV and alleges POV whenever he disagrees with the content, or makes his plitical party look bad. He has reverted 4 times in 24hrs, 3RR applies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.196.42.80 (talk • contribs)

Oh please. This is just someone out to get me because they disagree with my politics (possibly because the person is already blocked for this like user:lefty on campus or user:PSYCH or their anonymous friends). The examples he brings are not even of the same revert from me. The revert I did, was done three times over three days and was to remove blatant POV. The section has since been totally reworded by a respectable wikipedian. Xtra 06:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from using personal attacks on others users. Misplaced Pages is not your personal blog. Consider this a warning. 09:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.16.217.106 (talk • contribs)

Huh? stop writing out stupid warnings. Stop trying to game the system. Find some other pasttime than stalking me. Xtra 11:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I see no evidence of Xtra violating 3RR. So, he is not getting blocked. Thanks. --Chris S. 13:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Salsb reported by User:58.162.2.131 (Result: )

Previous version reverted to: 13:22, 20 July 2006
1st revert: 13:25, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 13:26, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 13:32, 20 July 2006
4th revert: 15:05, 20 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

n/a; not new user

Time report made: 16:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Um, 58.162.2.131 is "banned from editing of Jonathan Sarfati and associated articles" per arbcomm ruling in Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Agapetos_angel. Creation science is definately a Sarfati-associated article." He's also edited Carl Baugh and Ken Ham today, which are also Sarfati-related articles . He'd already been warned on his talk and stills continues to edit articles he's banned from, so per the arbcomm ruling I'm blocking 58.162.2.131. FeloniousMonk 16:50, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"Lies, Damned Lies," then there's FeloniousMonk's version of history. Nothing that he blocked for (and lied about Ham edit) has anything to do with ARBCOM results. Nice wellpoisoning.

If you look at the history, you can see some of the "reverts" above are nothing of the ~~source~~ sort. -- SCZenz 16:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

If you look at the history, you will see that the reverts above are exactly that; a revert that edit clashed, and then several after that that restored to the previous version. But nice of you to close rank. Re-examination requested by impartial party.

User:Wahkeenah reported by User:Bignole

Three revert rule violation on Superman Returns

I removed POV information from a section and user reverted the changes, and has done so 5 times, even after warning. User has also attempted to use weasely words to get around his reverts.

1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:
5th revert:

Comment User:Wahkeenah has also shown bad faith and engaged in personal attacks (accusations of sockpuppetry). CovenantD 17:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Last rv has been self-reverted. And you've presented them backwards. And no prev-version; so thats 3R really William M. Connolley 18:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for placing them in the wrong order, I was was going backward in the history when I did it. The last revert would have been revert number 6, that he reverted himself. That doesn't excuse his attitude and actions from earlier. Also, he reverted my first edit, then reverted it again, then reverted CovenantD, then reverted me again, then tried to revert it under the guise that it was now "neutral" which it wasn't. Bignole 20:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

This user may or may not be a sockpuppet -- probably not -- but he has been working in concert with other users as a way of getting around the 3 Revert Rule himself. Note this comment on his talk page: "... I have asked Someguy to come in and make the changes because I don't wish to use up my third revert changing it back. Bignole 17:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)" This is a tempest in a teapot in any case. If I had thought they were going to make such a big deal over this tiny issue -- which is simply a plot detail in a movie, for cryin' out loud -- I would have watched the clock a little more carefully, to stick with the letter of the rules as they are doing while still getting their way. Sorry, y'all. Wahkeenah 12:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

First, if you are going to quote someone, go to the source, like the actual message left. As I said on the Talk Page, I explained that what was there was clear POV and that I didn't wish to use my last revert trying to correct something, while you on the other hand had already done so 5 times. If you look, Someguy never actually reverted anything. Also, I didn't force any editor to do anything. Bignole 23:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

You asked him to, though. He didn't have to do it because I had already fixed it. Maybe I should have asked an e-pal to do my reverting for me just like you did. Wahkeenah 23:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I think we have resolved this issue peacefully, as per further discussion on the Superman Returns talk page. I've been editing for 1 1/2 years, and this was the first time I had apparently broken the 3 revert rule, and it should be the last time. Wahkeenah 19:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:198.103.172.9 reported by User:Fireplace (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 15:10, July 19, 2006
1st revert: 16:04, July 19, 2006
2nd revert: 11:29, July 20, 2006
3rd revert: 11:35, July 20, 2006
4th revert: 15:41, July 20, 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

12:00, July 20, 2006

Time report made: 19:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User has blanked talk page warnings (here) and has multiple warnings on his talk page. He violated 3RR on the same article several times earlier today, but as he hadn't been warned about 3RR until before the last edit, I didn't submit a notice. Fireplace 20:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

2005-07-20 15:30:29 Morwen (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "198.103.172.9 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 24 hours (vandalism of homosexuality) William M. Connolley 20:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:MinnesotaPolitics reported by User:Jonathunder (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:
5th revert:

Comments: User was warned about reverts, including here, but reverts continued. Jonathunder 22:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

BLocked for 24 hours Jaranda 02:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Truthwanted reported by User:Agathoclea (Result:1 week)

Previous version reverted to: Revision as of 17:03, 15 July 2006 and earlier
1st revert: Revision as of 12:57, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: Revision as of 18:30, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: Revision as of 20:47, 20 July 2006
4th revert: Revision as of 23:03, 20 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Revision as of 00:21, 16 July 2006 (192.117.103.90)
Revision as of 00:21, 16 July 2006 (Truthwanted)
Previous Blocks on for 3RR and blockevation

Time report made: 23:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Truthwanted for sock evidence Agathoclea 23:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Because of the previous violations and use of a sockpuppet, I've blocked both the user and the ip for one week. Tom Harrison 23:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Randall Brackett reported by A Man In Black (talk · contribs) (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert: 19:04, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:15, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 19:31, 20 July 2006
4th revert: 19:37, 20 July 2006

An attempt at gaming the system. Content dispute. Reverts were made in view of a percieved policy violation and there's discussion on the talkpage. Asked for third opinions on the matter in attempt at clarification. I'm inclined to think this a report made in dubious taste. Both sides reverted with each editor on differinf viewpoints. This isn't a mere violation. -Randall Brackett 00:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

If there's a block implemented I suggest one on both parties. There hasn't been additional input on the respetive talkpage and this was one-one content dispute. Plain and simple. In the meanwhile I'd appreciate continuing discussion on the talkpages without furthur reverts. -Randall Brackett 00:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Nobody forced you to hit submit a fourth time, and, if you felt a third opinion was so important, I don't see a single comment on someone's talk page other than your own until after you had reverted four times. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your insufficient clarification. Actually I remember inquiring the discussion be carried out and third opinons permitted to arrive but I suppose its possible you don't know the virtue of patience.

I don't seek out edit warring for its own sake, but I don't condone removal of data clearly disputed without expanded discussion. I don't think you've given me any good reason to rethink my approach to the subject. I've stopped edit warring although that wasnt the intent. The responsibilty is for you to rebute coments in a dispute prior to such data removal and there was a prior concensus.

You've been engaging in low-level quibbling for some time. Please stop this. The point is we both reverted. There should't be a coup out on this. According to WP:3RR, having only three reverts doesn't excuse edit warring. I advocated WP:1RR in ths instance and hashed it out the talkpage. This is however, fruitless as the concept of established conclusions before actions is a venue unbeknowst to you. If there is a block, I suggest both editors as both violated the spirit of edit warring. In the meantime I'm not and discussion is proceeding smoothly. -Randall Brackett 01:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

You reverted three times before making any comment on Talk:Vile (Mega Man X) that wasn't sarcastic. You reverted four times total, and, looking at the edit history, you've reverted that article on a number of occasions without once using the talk page. You even reverted an anon who had explained his actions on talk, without replying on talk.

This has got to stop, and you did violate the WP:3RR. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it needs to stop. Your edit warring and mine. Well I suppose its reasonable my comment was misinterpreted by you but this isn't my fault. I'll conceed my sarcasim is still lacking.

Of course we edit warred. That's indisputable. I don't see the point as it seems the edit history isn't clogged with mindless reverts, surrently. As for reverting previous edits outside of this not in violation, that's no relevance to this situation. The point is the edit warring is over and you must take care to explain your edits of removal of data before removing said information in the future. It doesn't matter to the wiki is you leave off the edit button and discuss first. The point is you edit warred as well. There will be no false claims over that.

I'd suggest a rfc if this continues. I don't start the trouble in mainspace, although I'll conceed I'm a contributor to the conflict here. You wished to remove data. I think its obvious you must take this into effect and discuss beforehand, while inquiring outside opinions. This much has not been achieved. -Randall Brackett 01:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I explained it on talk. I explained it on your talk. You reverted three times before replying anywhere. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you explained your reasoning after two reverts. That isn't fullfilling the intent of a talkpage. You then reverted with a rollback as per vandalism. This is very, very unhelpful. Ethier this was an attempt to bait someone or this was an attempt to start conflict. It must be obvious your edits are not acceptable by all editors of the encyclopedia. That would destroy the point of the wiki. In these cases, I recomend caution as you're well aware this nonsense always happens between us. This could have been avoided by stating on the talkpage originally and then removing after a concensus established. Until the third parties have commented I recluse myself from this and I'll await patiently. As should be done in wikipedia in such cases. I'm logging off at the momment. -Randall Brackett 01:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I think its obvious in most cases, AMIB we cannot attain an agreement on these issues. As such I recomend on the individual cases like these, we stick to WP:1RR, post before editting and await third parties.

Consistant coflicts, as you might agree, over this trivial matter is not a good idea. When I edit a article you frequent I shall leave note before I edit and await reply. I ask you to do the same. -Randall Brackett 01:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I rolled back what appeared to be either a WP:POINT violation or an error, since I took your sarcastic comment to be in earnest. My fault; I probably wouldn't have reverted a third time if I had known you were being sarcastic. Still, nobody forced you to revert a fourth time. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, haven't we been through this before? Kirill Lokshin 02:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Like I said, I wouldn't have even taken it to three if I hadn't thought his revert was in error or just WP:POINT. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

1RR would be nice; however for the moment RB gets blocked for 3RR William M. Connolley 06:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Skinmeister reported by User:LtPowers (Result: 24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 02:58 20 July 2006
1st revert: 04:31 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 06:18 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 08:44 20 July 2006
4th revert: 17:30 20 July 2006

Time report made: 02:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Edit war with User:Deeceevoice over whether "affect the countenance" requires "a degree in English language" to understand properly. Deeceevoice is at three reverts for the day. Edit war getting ridiculous. Powers 02:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours. --Chris S. 05:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:70.160.180.8 reported by User:John Broughton (Result: 24 hours)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 22:38, 17 July 2006 (first two reverts)
1st revert: 01:20, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 17:54, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 17:54, 20 July 2006 strictly removal of text
4th revert: 00:33, 21 July 2006 strictly removal of text

Time report made: 04:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Three revert rule warning:

00:41, 12 July 2006

Comments: Here are the edit summaries for these four reverts:

1st: continued vigilance to protect this page from left-wing vandalism
2nd: repaired left-wing vandalism again
3rd: again removed irrelevant POV vandalism
4th: again deleted irrelevant pov material as I will continue to do every day through the election no matter how often anti-Drake left-wingers seek to sabotage this article to benefit their candidate

Repeated attempts to get this user to discuss the matter on the talk/discussion page have failed. An offer for mediation was ignored. The user has finally grasped that the detail that he/she wanted to keep in this article (on Thelma Drake) belongs in a separate campaign article (and, in fact, are already there). Now he insists on deleting campaign poll information that provides context in the Thelma Drake article for the wikilink to that campaign article, even though this is absolutely normal for such wikilinks (as was explained on the talk/discussion page of the Thelma Drake article, at 23:44, 20 July 2006).

Blocked for 24 hours. --Chris S. 05:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Supreme_Cmdr reported by User:Ehheh (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 18:25, 18 July 2006
1st revert: 10:25, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 14:30, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:51, 20 July 2006
4th revert: 08:56, 21 July 2006
5th revert: 09:07, 21 July 2006
6th revert: 12:14, 21 July 2006

Time report made: 13:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: I warned about 3RR on the user's talk page, but the warning has since been blanked - Ehheh 13:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems clear enough. 24h William M. Connolley 16:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

on Augusto Pinochet

User:Mingus ah um reported by User:DNewhall (Result:24h)

Previous version reverted to: 08:19, 18 July 2006

Revert war started: 09:38, 18 July 2006

Most recent reverts

1st revert: 21:21, 19 July 2006
2nd revert: 07:31, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:33, 20 July 2006
4th revert: 21:45, 20 July 2006

Time report made: 14:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User:Mingus_ah_um and User:Mike18xx have been having a 3 day edit war in Augusto Pinochet. Both participants have been warned about the 3RR before and/or are familiar with the policy.

User:Mike18xx reported by User:DNewhall (Result:No action)

Previous version reverted to: 08:25, 18 July 2006

Revert war started: 10:50, 18 July 2006

Most recent reverts

1st revert: 06:42, 21 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:54, 20 July 2006
3rd revert: 09:52, 20 July 2006
4th revert: 01:29, 20 July 2006

Time report made: 14:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User:Mingus_ah_um and User:Mike18xx have been having a 3 day edit war in Augusto Pinochet. Both participants have been warned about the 3RR before and/or are familiar with the policy.

~~I'm a bit puzzled why you reported Mike, who hasn't technically broken 3RR, and not Mingus, who has~~ . 24h for Mingus, anyway William M. Connolley 16:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Srnec reported by User:Rex (Result:No action)

Previous version reverted to: 04:26, 18 July 2006
1st revert: 17:36, 18 July 2006
2nd revert: 19:26, 18 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:03, 18 July 2006
4th revert: 20:40, 18 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

User is fully aware of 3RR, as he warned me.

Time report made: 17:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Reverts by user:Srnec are interspersed by my own reverts. Please note though that I have already been punished for them. I received a 31h block, that's why I could not report this earlier.

The second revert is not by User:Srnec (but by Rex), the fourth revert is not a revert at all. No action abakharev 23:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Zer0faults reported by User: Nomen Nescio (Result:Article is protected)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert: between 02:45, July 21, 2006 - 03:06, July 21, 2006
2nd revert: between 21:38, July 21, 2006 - 21:45, July 21, 2006
3rd revert: between 00:27, July 22, 2006 - 00:35, July 22, 2006
4th revert: between 03:07, July 22, 2006 - 03:11, July 22, 2006

Time report made: 01:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user and I have a long standing and evolving disagreement. After several edit wars between us he has now followed me to this article and has effectively hijacked it. His only contribution exists of reverting me. While I try and improve the article (compare my edits today and several days ago, and note that the diffence in quality is because I worked on it while Zero was reverting my work), and therefore need to restore what he deletes, he almost immediately shows up and reverts my work. This behaviour and other issues resulted in a RFC.

Thus editor reverts by using several edits, and in doing so he cleverly tries to obfuscate what he does: reverting to a previous version. This trick makes the reverts difficult to recognize. That he is gaming the system, making it impossible for me to edit this article, can be inferred by another coincidence, the timing of his reverts. He probably just escaped violating 3RR, but it is evident he has only edited today to revert my edits (as he has been doing fort days) combined with the timing of his 4th revert suggests he is aware of 3RR and waited to have his 4th revert possibly just minutes past the 24h limit. So, while technically maybe not a violation, I think that with several minutes to spare it is a 3RR in the spirit of policy. Nomen Nescio 01:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I have protected the article, so they could settle the differences on the talk page abakharev 00:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:68.224.247.234 reported by User:teb728 (Result:Article is already semiprotected)

Previous version reverted to: 18:01, 20 July 2006
1st revert: 22:52, 20 July 2006
2nd revert: 14:48, 21 July 2006
3rd revert: 15:33, 21 July 2006
4th revert: 18:38, 21 July 2006
5th revert: 19:06, 21 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

15:58, 21 July 2006

Time report made: 06:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: The editor apparently thinks he can game the system by adding additional words in the last 2 reverts, but all his reverts contain the word “cosmology.” Note: all times are UTC-07:00 (PDT). --teb728 06:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

2006-07-22 06:15:26 Voice of All (Talk | contribs | block) m (Protected Albert Einstein: Roving IP ) William M. Connolley 07:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

It is true that Albert Einstein is now semi-protected so that the anon cannot continue his revert war there (without getting a name account, that is). But that doesn't change the fact that he violated 3RR. He deserves a 24 hour block. --teb728 07:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't be vindictive. The purpose of the block is to prevent abuse, not to punish William M. Connolley 08:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

User:HSL reported by User:Mythologia (Result:No actions by now)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert: 21:28, 21 July 2006
2nd revert: 22:51, 21 July 2006
3rd revert: 23:22, 21 July 2006
4th revert: 06:18, 22 July 2006

Time report made: 07:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user is suspected of a sockpuppet. He reverted in semi-protected article without discussion with newly created account user.Mythologia 07:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Not obvious that these are all reverts William M. Connolley 07:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The reported diffs are not reverts, please report the 3RR correctly abakharev 00:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Denis Diderot reported by User:Daphne A (Result:)

Denis Diderot has reverted the article on Christopher Gillberg five times in the last 24 hours. He is aware of the 3RR, because he cites it in his reverts. He claims that he is reverting to conform to the WP:BLP policy. As has been explained to him (in the article Talk), negative statements about a living person are acceptable if the statements are factual and sourced. I have pointed out to him (in the article Talk) that each statement is vouched for by a reference. He did not accept this; so I have quoted the references and asked him to point out any statement that he does not believe is vouched for. He questioned the reliability of a reference's claim; so I provided a copy of an original source document to back it up. None of this had any effect. I believe that he is trying to impose his extreme POV on the article. He has not responded to my request for mediation. He continues to revert.
Note: Denis Diderot seems to be well aware that he has reverted more than three times (judging by his editing comment: "rv per WP:3RR#Reverting_potentially_libellous_material"). So that does not seem to be in dispute. —Daphne A 14:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The article has been protected; so the 3RR issue is now presumably irrelevant. —Daphne A 16:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The protection has been removed and Denis Diderot has resumed reverting. (The changes that he has most recently reverted cannot be considered potentially libelous.) —Daphne A 10:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

Hmmm , Daphne A reverted this page 6 times in 24 hours. Used sock puppet for last 2 (possibly meat).

Previous version reverted to:

1st revert: 14:00, July 21 2006
2nd revert: 17:20, July 21 2006
3rd revert: 09:10 July 22 2006
4th revert: 10:16 July 22 2006
5th revert: 12:12 July 22 2006
6th revert: 12:44 July 22 2006

She has been previously warned and blocked for 3RR violation

I'm aware that I had to revert more than 3 times, but explained that it was done according to WP:BLP and specifically WP:3RR#Reverting_potentially_libellous_material I requested that the page could be temporarily protected until things were sorted out.

User:Fred Chess protected the page temporarily , apparently without seeing my request.

For more background, see talk page --Denis Diderot 04:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Denis Diderot's accusation that I used a puppet to make changes is false. I do not know who the user making the changes was (this was explained before on Talk). Denis: please try to make a valid case. —Daphne A 09:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:CoolKatt number 99999 reported by User:Buckner 1986 Buckner 1986 (Result:48h)

Three revert rule violation on WWCP-TV (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). {{3RRV|CoolKatt_number_99999}:

Previous version reverted to: 15:45, July 14, 2006
1st revert: 10:15, July 18, 2006
2nd revert: 19:34, July 18, 2006
3rd revert: 20:24, July 19, 2006
4th revert: 22:15, July 21, 2006

Time report made: 16:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user seems to be a known vandal and problem user. I am amazed he hasn't been banned. He also accused me of being a sockpupet of User:Rekarb Bob. Buckner 1986 16:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Do not accuse one of vandalism if the edits made are not vandalism. I was only trying to clean that article up. I've been here longer than you, and this behavior is unacceptable. CoolKatt number 99999 21:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Kurt Leyman reported by User:Irpen (Result:1 month)

1st revert: 07:22, July 22, 2006
2nd revert: 19:32, July 22, 2006
3rd revert: 19:54, July 22, 2006
4th revert: 20:01, July 22, 2006
5th revert: 20:05, July 22, 2006)
6th revert: 20:34, July 22, 2006)
7th revert: 21:19, July 22, 2006)

Seven, not even four, reverts in 24 hours. In the fifth revert, the offender makes a threatening comment in the edit summary: "One more time and I will contact the "higher forces"

Kurt Leyman (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) is one of the well established problem users who achieved a significant degree of notoriety here. Of all admins, Woohookitty and Alex Bakharev dealt with him most of all.

Kurt Leyman has been blocked multiple times for revert warring, crusading POV-pushing and using different tricks for block evasion, with the block length increasing after each previous offense. Last block was for 2 weeks which was still not enough for Kurt to learn anything. His nemesis, SuperDeng is currently under the two months block. Perhaps, this could be considered a ballpark for a recommended block length.

Time report made: 20:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

User:Steth reported by User:Arthur Rubin (Result:48h)

Previous version reverted to: 21:24, July 20, 2006 VersionTime

(more or less: All reverts to the last paragraph of the Reform paragraph of the #Modern chiropractic groups section.)

1st revert: 21:28, July 21, 2006
2nd revert: 04:23, July 22, 2006
3rd revert: 10:59, July 22, 2006
4th revert: 20:44, July 22, 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Previously blocked for 3RR on March 11; old 3RR warning still on his talk page, diff.

Time report made: 21:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: I'm an admin, but I'm involved, so I don't want to block on my own authority. — Arthur Rubin | (talk)

User:67.187.9.149 reported by User:siafu (Result: 24 hours)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert: 14:54, 22 July 2006
2nd revert: 14:57, 22 July 2006
3rd revert: 15:03, 22 July 2006
4th revert: 15:07, 22 July 2006
5th revert: 15:32, 22 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

15:35, 22 July 2006

Time report made: 00:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: The use is now engaging in another revert war, focusing on a different section. Also, there's an extensive discussion on Talk:Atheism on the subject.

~~24 hours. --Chris S. 09:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)~~ Oh, he was apparently blocked by another Admin. --Chris S. 09:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:68.74.121.62 reported by User:Ned Scott (Result:24 hours)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: 10:15, 22 July 2006
1st revert: 17:57, 22 July 2006
2nd revert: 18:00, 22 July 2006
3rd revert: 18:05, 22 July 2006
4th revert: 18:16, 22 July 2006
5th revert: 18:51, 22 July 2006
6th revert: 21:05, 22 July 2006
7th revert: 23:20, 22 July 2006
8th revert: 23:26, 22 July 2006

Time report made: 06:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This isn't the only IP this user is using, see 68.78.156.13 (talk · contribs), 68.74.185.111 (talk · contribs), 68.74.190.193 (talk · contribs), and others as well. -- Ned Scott 06:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Looking more into the matter, it seems this is apart of a larger issue that WikiProject Avatar: The Last Airbender is dealing with. See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Avatar: The Last Airbender#The current mess, where some users have suspected that this anon is also Father's Wish (talk · contribs). -- Ned Scott 07:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours. --Chris S. 08:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

This user continues to edit via another IP, 68.74.184.92 (talk · contribs), another 4 reverts on this one as well. Semi-protection has been requested (WP:RPP#List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes), but not yet granted. Not sure what to do at this point. -- Ned Scott 04:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree with summary; article sprotected. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 04:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:24.34.73.135 reported by User:Howard the Duck (Result: both 24h)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert: 14:53, 23 July 2006
2nd revert: 15:01, 23 July 2006
3rd revert: 15:06, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 15:14, 23 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

15:11, 23 July 2006

Time report made: 07:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Pushes his own POV on the article (also on the Toyota Super Corollas page, check out the history). Ignores WP:MOS, adds bylines, ignored standards for basketball team pages. --Howard the Duck 07:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I gotta say this. Are all admins based in the USA and Europe? Nobody is acting on this. I've reverted 10 times already. --Howard the Duck 08:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Both of you violated it, so 24 hours for both. --Chris S. 08:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The articles are messed up again. However, I won't touch it. I'd recommend semi-protection. --Howard the Duck 14:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:FidelFair reported by User:Iorek85 (Result: 24h)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert: 18:13 July 23
2nd revert: 18:34 July 23
3rd revert: 18:49 July 23
4th revert: 18:55 July 23
5th revert: 18:59 July 23

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

Time report made: 09:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Has previously been blocked for violating the 3RR rule (on the same article). Attempts to take discussion to the talk page (both of the article and his talk) were commented on, then ignored.

24h. Either 3RR or vandalism, take your pick William M. Connolley 10:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ryorye reported by User:Guettarda (Result: 24 hrs)

Previous version reverted to: 21 July 2006
1st revert: 21:09, 22 July 2006
2nd revert: 22:07, 22 July 2006
3rd revert: 06:39, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 15:16, 23 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

21:46, 21 July 2006

Time report made: 15:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

24 hours. El_C 21:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:FightCancer reported by User:Strothra (Result: 12 hrs)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 2006-07-23 12:49:03
2nd revert: 2006-07-23 13:05:30
3rd revert: 2006-07-23 13:15:33
4th revert: 2006-07-23 13:43:11
5th revert: 2006-07-23 14:09:05

Time report made: 18:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User makes comments on the talk page and reverts without concensus and has been warned to stop disrupting WP to make a point. This is not the only issue he has revert on several times today

12 hours as first offence. El_C 21:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Jackman69 / User:24.189.164.43 reported by User:ChrisB (Result: 24 hrs)

Previous version reverted to: 20:04, 23 July 2006

1st revert: 20:20, 23 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:28, 23 July 2006
3rd revert: 20:51, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 20:54, 23 July 2006
5th revert: 21:11, 23 July 2006

Time report made: 21:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: User has history of vandalism. (Possible block evasion.)

24 hours for both accounts. El_C 21:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ContiE reported by User:81.178.123.169 (Result: Warning)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 01:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It's customary to give a user a warning before reporting them. Stifle (talk) 10:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:MSTCrow reported by User:Ideogram (Result: 24 hrs)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:
5th revert:

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

second warning (removed by MSTCrow as "vandalism")

Time report made: 01:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

24 hours. El_C 02:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Kara Umi and User:82.101.143.154 reported by User:AnnH ♫ (Result: 24 hours)

Previous version reverted to: 20:22 22 July 2006

1st revert: 20:38, 22 July
2nd revert: 09:54 23 July
3rd revert: 10:53 23 July
4th revert: 12:30 23 July

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

11:07 23 July and 11:08 23 July See also other messages at User talk:82.101.143.154.

Time report made: 07:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: I requested a usercheck here, with examples of identical spelling mistakes from registered user and IP. It was declined as the case seemed to be "fairly obvious 3RR evasion and be treated as such." AnnH ♫ 07:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

24 hours. 13:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Qwasty reported by User:Deon Steyn (Result: No violation)

Previous version reverted to: 21:10, 21 July 2006

1st revert: 09:30, 23 July 2006
2nd revert: 09:43, 23 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:45, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 21:59, 23 July 2006
5th revert: 23:37, 23 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

18:09, 22 July 2006

Time report made: 07:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

User has made in excess of 200 edits between 21 and 23 July 2006
Many other reverts are subtle in nature not exactly using earlier text
User might be using Misplaced Pages for hidden agenda (soapbox/propaganda)
User ignores consensus on Talk page or pretends to aggree or fails to respond
User has been referred to Misplaced Pages:Etiquette
User sometimes edits without being signed in (as 67.166.121.148)

1 is not a revert. #2 is. #3 and #4 are edits without any change in between by another user, and so count as the same revert. #5 is not by the same user, and even if it was, it would only be the third. No violation. Stifle (talk) 10:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Roy Brumback reported by User:Semioli (Result:12h block)

Previous version reverted to: 13:22, 23 July 2006
1st revert: 21:19, 23 July 2006
2nd revert: 21:29, 23 July 2006
3rd revert: 21:59, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 22:27, 23 July 2006

Time report made: 10:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

The other editor involved, User:Ahrarara, just stopped editing after the third revert. Maybe a way to break the rule in spirit but not in form?
The same two editors are involved in revert wars over other articles, Luke 2, Luke 3, Mark 12, and Mark 13. Note that for the latter article, User:Roy Brumback reverted 4 times in a day, and User:Ahrarara three times:
- 1st revert: 21:21, 23 July 2006
- 2nd revert: 21:29, 23 July 2006
- 3rd revert: 22:00, 23 July 2006
- 4th revert: 22:26, 23 July 2006

Ahrarara has been indef blocked as a sockpuppet but I blocked Roy Brumback for 12 hours. Sasquatch t|c 23:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Tewfik reported by User:FightCancer (Result: Warning)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable: VersionTime
1st revert: 12:16:20
2nd revert: 13:28:33
3rd revert: 14:08:39 (full Misplaced Pages:Revert)
4th revert: 15:22:08 (full Misplaced Pages:Revert)
5th revert: 15:54:33
6th revert: 17:30:19

Time report made: 11:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

The user performed 2 full reverts plus 4 identical edits to 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict in just over 5 hours.
User is a regular violator of the 3RR rule and is openly warning other users not to violate it.

FightCancer is currently engaged in mediation with me, where I pointed out that two of the edits are rvv, and one was the removal of an empty header and move of the link contained to "See also" after others had reverted the text, bringing the total rvs to 3. Tewfik 03:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Mediation was filed against you for harassment against another user by another user--not me. Regardless, how do the two reversions marked (full Misplaced Pages:Revert) above qualify as "vandalism"? The first full revert resulted in adding one single word, "extremist", to describe Hezbollah. The second full revert resulted in changing the topmost picture from Haifa to Beirut. How were you preventing vandalism with those reverts?
While I admit policy is grey on this, I was reverting disconnected, unconstructive IP edits back to the consensus page. The picture had been moved by dozens of unrelated IPs over the course of the day, and were always reverted per talk by numerous other users. The POV description was also reverted back from random, disconnected IP edits countless times, by many users. I may add that these two edits were of a different POV than my reversions of your insertions, and were not part of any edit-war. Tewfik 04:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
It's customary to warn people first, and only to report them here when they continue to revert. Tewfik: consider yourself warned. Stifle (talk) 10:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:SndrAndrss reported by User:Oldelpaso (Result: 24h and a WP:LAME listing)

Previous version reverted to: VersionTime
1st revert: 13:09
2nd revert: 14:07
3rd revert: 18:26
4th revert: 18:49

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

18:32

Time report made: 19:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

5th revert: 21:23 BlueValour 23:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
6th revert: 08:21, July 25, 2006

Comments: We've asked for communication on his talk page and on the article's talk page, and even via our edit summaries in the article's edit history, but he hasn't responded to anyone. There are now four users trying to sort this with no success so far, User:DeLarge, User:StuartBrady, User:Oldelpaso and User:BlueValour.

The user does not use the 'Edit preview' option, so makes changes over many edits, however, he has been attempting to apply his version to this page since at least as far back as 20:37, June 25, 2006

Not trying to get personal here, but this is an amazingly trivial edit war. I'm listing this on WP:LAME. Oh and 24h. Stifle (talk) 10:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Anomicene reported by User:IronDuke (Result:)

Three revert rule violation on Mike Hawash. Anomicene (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log):

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

A couple of things to note: the third revert was done, obviously, by an IP. Here is where Anomicene adds a signature to that IP on talk:

Also, these reverts are small. Ordinarily, I would just let it go or issue them an invitation to self-revert. However, this user is more interested in harassing me and trolling for a reaction than he is in actually working on the article. Here is a diff indicating where this user has employed a sockpuppet to harass me a few months ago: . He was asked here to stay away from me, and not only has ignored this, but followed me to other pages as well. He's just been warned again .

Time report made: 19:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

The alleged Second revert isn't a revert at all, but an attempt at compromise. The compainer let it stand, and even modified it. Regarding the other charges, please see WP:AN here.-- Anomicene 20:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It is a revert. You (again) removed the words "himself and." IronDuke 20:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

The Anomicene account has just been blocked as a sock. I don't know what the policy on 3RR is then, whether it gets dropped, but I thought I'd let you know. IronDuke 19:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ghirlandajo reported by User:Circeus (Result:mistaken)

Previous version reverted to: (minus a cateory change made just after, but all reverts result in the same version)

1st revert: 17:18, July 21, 2006
2nd revert: 15:47, July 24, 2006
3rd revert: 16:10, July 24, 2006
4th revert: 18:44, July 24, 2006

I corrected/added GMT timestamps to all diffs for clarity as the complaint, initially did not include any time stamps (making a report invalid) and his later added time stamps still included errors and one ommission.

Now, first of all, note the lack of the time stamps in the original "report" above. If the complaining party cared to include them, one would see that the first revert is from three days ago. While, any number of reverts over any period of time is ideally too many, care is need as each case is different

Besides, Circeus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)' summary is not complete and one-sided. Circeus forgets to give a full context as their other edit conflict (not flawless by both parties) was "won" by Circeus in the end of the day by simply Circeus' blocking his opponent. The nearest to the detailed description of that conflict could be found in the archives of WP:AN at the following links:

In the first of the discussions linked above, the lack of time-stamps in 3RR reports is given as an example of things that make any report look suspicious. Such reports should be carefully looked at before taking action. I assume that in this case we have an honest error of the complaining party rather than a second attempt to achieve a "victory" in the edit conflict by having an opponent blocked, just through other means.

Since this is not 3RR, the rest of the discussion belongs to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Circeus and Ghirlandajo, again -Irpen 20:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I've rechecked the date and freely admit a ridiculous mistake in my reading of the first date, prompted by the fact most of the edit war occured today, and hereby withdraw this report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Circeus (talk • contribs)

User:69.6.167.240 reported by User:Ehheh (Result:No action)

Previous version reverted to: 16:05, 19 July 2006
1st revert: 12:03, 24 July 2006
2nd revert: 15:20, 24 July 2006
3rd revert: 16:17, 24 July 2006
4th revert: 16:26, 24 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

16:26, 24 July 2006

Time report made: 20:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Warned user on talk page. Revert is repeated removal of the Controversy section. Ehheh 20:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hasn't edited the page since the warning. Sasquatch t|c 23:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

From my perspective it looked as if he had, but I see now that the warning and the 4th revert were made nearly simultaneously. Ehheh 00:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:68.69.100.243 reported by Shaunvader (Result:Warned some more)

Three revert rule violation on Maryse Ouellet. 68.69.100.243 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log):

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 22:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Keeps adding rumor (that I can't find any link of whatsoever) that Maryse Ouellet is dating Mike Mizanin, the Mizanin page also has the same info put on it as well. Will not provide any link to verify.

Hasn't edited that page since the warning but I will warn again about unsourced info. And please sign all posts with four tildes (like this: ~~~~). Thanks. Sasquatch t|c 23:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:IP Address reported by Mad Jack 23:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC) (Result:48hr block)

Previous version reverted to:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 23:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Aside from the previous 3RR, another, identical violation on Dave Mustaine. User is uncivil, as can be seen from comments on (including blanking of discussion), , and . Has been warned about 3RR and continues to revert to the same version, even though he has been told by me and User:ElKevbo that he needs a reliable source for it, which he has continually not produced. Mad Jack 23:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

All I can say is that Mad Jack is a hypocrite in most regards he attacks me, who love edit wars and marking his territory:

Please note:

If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.

IP Address 23:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 48 hours pending user history. Sasquatch t|c 23:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

User:WikiWoo reported by User:JChap (talk • contribs) (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 18:23, 24 July 2006
1st revert: 19:46, 24 July 2006
2nd revert: 20:48, 24 July 2006
3rd revert: 04:02, 25 July 2006
4th revert: 05:32, 25 July 2006

WikiWoo is familiar with the 3RR policy. He was blocked for it previously as user WikiRoo:

Time report made: 06:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Problemmed editor making multiple reverts with no changes; many editors have become frustrated trying to explain to him proper sourcing, NPOV, etc.; User mostly interested in POV-pushing with respect to government of Region of Peel, Ontario.

Reply Comment We have a group of editors working together to persecute my work whatever it may be. They have been monitoring my every edits making mountains out of mole hills on every opportunity. They are working collectively to frustrate me by deleting work over and over again rather than making constructive edits of interesting factual content, concertrating on my form rather than my substance. I make every effort to modify the wording when I fix the vandalism they do to try to reach consesus, but I am infaliable after having to fix their vandalism dozens of times. There was no revert three times one after the other. I did not bother to review carefully the instancesa just noted, but I do not recall making pure reverts more than once or twice. They construe my contributions in an area of my expertise as me having an agenda with Peel Region. The reason I am stuck on still edditing only Peel Region and have not yet gotten to editing the other Regions of Ontario is that they are making it difficult to get one area done so I can move on to the other Regions and related areas of my expertise.WikiWoo 13:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Reverts again After being informed that this 3RR violation had been reported and responding above, he again reverted (for a fourth time) within 24 hours at 13:27, 25 July.

And again -- his fifth reversion of the page within 24 hours , after participating in this discussion and after being blocked for 48 hours two weeks ago for 3RR violations as User:WikiRoo.

User:24.151.41.250 reported by User:SynergeticMaggot (Result:Invalid 3RR report, but blocked 24 hrs for vandalism)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 07:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: Anon was warned, and didnt listen. SynergeticMaggot 07:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Those edits were not reverts. User has been blocked for vandalism. Report should have been made at WP:AIV. If you are making a 3RR report, you must give the times of the reverts as well as the links to the diffs. Also, if you have warned the user, don't forget to give a diff for the warning. AnnH ♫ 07:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll remember that next time. I guess I posted here too quickly. But thanks again. SynergeticMaggot 07:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Qwasty reported by User:Deon Steyn (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 09:11, 25 July 2006

1st revert: 09:12, 25 July 2006
2nd revert: 09:19, 25 July 2006
3rd revert: 09:38, 25 July 2006
4th revert: 09:40, 25 July 2006
5th revert: 09:44, 25 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

18:09, 22 July 2006

Time report made: 08:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

This person was doing mass-delete vandalism to the article. I reverted all of the deletions. Since this person posted here, I suspect the vandalism was an attempt at luring me into the realm of a 3-revert violation so he could get some leverage from administrators on his personal issues with me. Qwasty 09:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

False claim by accused, these were good faith edits and anything but vandalism. Deon Steyn 10:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I would like to add that the "Three revert rule warning diff" above is the same one as used in another 3RR complaint against me by this same person. That complaint has already been resolved in my favor, so I contest the validity of this complaint not only on the grounds that the reverts were done in response to vandalism, but also because of the fact that the evidence cited has already been evaluated in another instance that has already been decided. Qwasty 19:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Grant65 reported by User:John Smith's (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 14:26, 22 July 2006
1st revert: 03:18, 23 July 2006
2nd revert: 15:29, 23 July 2006
3rd revert: 16:35, 23 July 2006
4th revert: 01:41, 24 July 2006

Time report made: 09:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

I had discussed the changes on the talk page, but Grant refused to accept I had a valid point so kept reverting. Even after he made 4 reverts, I didn't report him as I assumed good faith and asked him to self-revert, as can be seen if you look on his talk page. I did give him a formal warning as well. But he rejected my offer to start reverting again at a later period. So I have reported him for the original violation. John Smith's 09:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I should point out that he didn't even respond to my offer of a self-revert rather than me report him, which is one reason why I was more inclined to report him. If he had said something I still might have let it pass. John Smith's 09:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Tasc reported by User:ArmanJan (Result:)

1st revert: 07:45, 25 July 2006
2nd revert: 12:37, 25 July 2006
3rd revert: 12:47, 25 July 2006
4th revert: 12:49, 25 July 2006
5th revert: 12:57, 25 July 2006
6th revert: 13:07, 25 July 2006

Time report made: 13:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: This user has been reverting over and again for days since the start of this article. He reverts everything which is not to his liking. User has been banned 2 times before for revert wars: see links, ban 1 and ban 2. Furthermore, his talk page is filled with warnings about his constant reverts on many pages. ArmanJan 13:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:ArmanJan reported by User:Denis Diderot (Result:)

Previous version reverted to (not exactly applicable in this case) 23:34, 23 July 2006
1st revert: 11:16, 24 July 2006
2nd revert: 12:04, 24 July 2006
3rd revert: 12:12, 24 July 2006
4th revert: 15:45, 24 July 2006
5th revert: 19:12, 24 July 2006

Time report made: 15:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments: The user changed the existing version and inserted that it was "according to Israel", he also later added another version of events labeled "according to Lebanon". This was rejected by other editors, but he kept reverting back (with several insignificant variations). He continues to revert .

He almost always marks his edits as minor even when they're not, and edit summaries are often misleading. He clearly knows about ].User_talk:ArmanJan#WP:3RR_and_Lebanon-Israel_beginning_of_conflict

I don't know if I am allowed to reply to this, but in my defence I would like to add that I did the reverts to prevent vandalism, and knowing the rule that I am exempted from the three revert rule to prevent vandalism. Misplaced Pages:Three_revert_rule#Reverting_vandalism. The following link shows that I have done my best to help bring forth a consensus to stop the edit wars: Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict/POV#Reaching_consensus_on_.22Beginning_of_conflict.22_section ArmanJan 17:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Akolsrud reported by User:—Ashley Y (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 18:46, July 23, 2006

1st revert: 07:27, July 24, 2006 (presumed, IP 130.164.72.107)
2nd revert: 07:59, July 24, 2006
3rd revert: 10:36, July 24, 2006
4th revert: 18:31, July 24, 2006
5th revert: 07:33, July 25, 2006 (4th in 24h)
6th revert: 10:34, July 25, 2006 (4th in 24h by 2mins)

User:69.142.211.106 reported by User:Francis Schonken (Result:)

Previous version reverted to: 06:41, 24 July 2006
1st revert: 21:57, 24 July 2006
2nd revert: 12:46, 25 July 2006
3rd revert: 17:23, 25 July 2006
4th revert: 17:36, 25 July 2006
5th revert: 19:43, 25 July 2006
6th revert: 19:53, 25 July 2006
7th revert: 19:59, 25 July 2006
8th revert: 20:20, 25 July 2006
9th revert: 20:46, 25 July 2006

Three revert rule warning diff from before this report was filed here (if applicable) :

19:47, 25 July 2006 (this was the 3rd warning, given between the 6th and 7th revert; previous warnings had been given between 4th and 5th; and between 2nd and 3rd)

Time report made: 20:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments:

User:Saintjust reported by User:Appleby (Result:)

Previous version reverted to, if applicable:
1st revert:
2nd revert:
3rd revert:
4th revert:

Time report made: 21:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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User:138.246.7.119 reported by User:Ideogram (Result:)

User:68.19.231.39 reported by User:SDC 02:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: 24h)

User:Stanley011 reported by User:Sysrpl (Result: 24h)

User:RolandR reported by User:Zeq (Result: 3h)

User:JIP reported by User:BoojiBoy (Result: Rejected)

User:Brian@popflux.com reported by User:131.107.0.103 22:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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User:CAYA reported by User:ChrisB (Result:24 hours)

User:The Ungovernable Force reported by User:Drowner (Result:22 hours and indef)

User:Truthwanted reported by User:Agathoclea (Result: 24h)

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User:Maximus_Meridius reported by User:Schmoul Aschkenazi 12:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: 24h)

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Hagiographer (talk · contribs)

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User:69.225.13.17 reported by User:Jeff3000 (Result:pages sprotected)

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User:70.49.128.59 reported by User:JereKrischel (Result:24 hours)

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User:Comanche cph reported by User:Inge (Result:48 hours (24 for 3RR, 24 for using the word "nationalist"))

User:Leuko reported by User:Spike 04:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC) (Result: Further information needed)

User:72.61.36.172 reported by User:CJCurrie (Result:Warning)

User:Truthwanted reported by User:Agathoclea (Result: 48h)

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User:ScienceApologist reported by User:Tim Smith (Result: Protected)

User:KillerChihuahua reported by User:Tx9 (Result: Article protected)

User:Mulatto_-_Mestizo reported by User:EurAfrican (Result:Both Indef)

User:SchmuckyTheCat reported by User:Hipocrite (Result: 24h and protected)

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User:Rootology reported by User:Hipocrite (Result: Article currently protected)

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User:Rex_Germanus reported by User:Str1977 (Result:blocked 31 hours)

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