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::There's clearly a theme at work here, but I dare not mention its name. ] ] 00:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC) ::There's clearly a theme at work here, but I dare not mention its name. ] ] 00:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

::{{yo|Ched}} I would like to think that an administrator like yourself would be concerned with sexist/sexual barbs like this. Giano has in the past accused the GGTF of and has a history of incivility towards women editors as evidenced by his . Even taking into consideration the context of the discussion, "pack up your ovaries and go away" is a direct attack on a person based on their sex and was repeated in . ] ] ] 00:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Colonnette as an architectural term

I've been trying to do some improvement of Bristol Cathedral and come across the phrase "a deep entrance arch of six orders with Purbeck marble colonnettes and enriched mouldings to the arch". I have no idea what colonnette means, a quick search just seems to find "small column" (or possibly a type of tap), and I was wondering if you could help?— Rod 14:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

@ Rod: You'd know them if you saw them: they are used to convey lightness and elegance. Suposedly a feature of Gothic architecture, they are more often found in Byzantine. They are they indeed small, thin columns; on their own they are purely decorative and non load bearing, but sometime you see them in groups of four or more, and then they can be load bearing, sort of safety in numbers. here you've got some being decorative, but beyond a bit of buttressing, not really doing much structurally even though they are pretending to support the blind arcade. this demonstrates how useful they are standing alone as structural supports! here they are en masse, taking a wight, but if you look carefully at the design, they are not really bearing a serious weight, but there is safety in numbers. they are closer together and taking more of a strain. Sometimes you will see them as a three of four (I can't find a picture) beneath one capital, then they are load bearing, but appear as one faceted column. They can also be the little stone columns that you see in large tracery windows. Hope this makes sense. Giano (talk) 17:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict):::Brilliant yes that makes a lot of sense (more than the sources I'd been looking at). I'm having trouble finding a good photo of the arch doorway (its generally in a lot of shade) but this, this or this might help. Do you think they are decorative or structural (or a bit of both). Your comment about Byzantine got me thinking..... This end of the cathedral was designed by John Loughborough Pearson and completed in 1888 so Gothic revival, but could it have been influenced by Bristol Byzantine?— Rod 18:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
They don't look like they are doing much structurally; I suspect they are pretending to support the ornamental tracery decorating the vault above them above them, but I doubt the vault itself would fall down completely if they were taken away anymore than it would if you chipped the tracery away - that isn't how vaults are built. Of course, I can't say for sure without really seeing them. To answer your second question: No, I don't think there's much influence of Bristol Byzantine in Bristol Cathedral; through Romanesque, there's Byzantine influence in most Gothic architecture, but not especially so there. Bristol Byzantine indeed - who thought that one up? Sounds like the Bristol Tourist Board may have had a hand in that. Giano (talk) 08:34, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks - I've just added "decorative" to the Colonnettes. If you fancied taking a look at the rest of the article to ensure I haven't many any silly architectural errors that would be great.— Rod 17:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

It is the people I miss (not the project)

Good day. LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:08, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I am not. I would too quickly become frustrated by the politics of the place, and I would not wish to use the project as a social site. Until yesterday I had not logged in for over a year, but I do miss many of the people - including you - that I knew. LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:17, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I love you too LessHeard vanU. The politics remain the same, and the writing and stuff goes on, but a little honing of one's social skills does no harm. I've only been blocked once in ages now, and that was by some American kid with issues, so didn't really stick. You should give it a try again. Giano (talk) 18:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Linkspam

Wow, look at your guy's contributions. Nice. I've warned them. Feel free to help remove those links, if you've got time for a little wikignoming. Bishonen | talk 22:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC).

Thank you Bishonen; they all look to be reverted now. I looked at the Breathless Beauty thing, I expect David Cholmonedely and Tom Coke are thrilled to see the houses they spend millions preserving described as "Beauty in Decline." Giano (talk) 16:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Isabaeau

Thank you for stopping by and for your kind words. It meant a lot, coming from you. Btw - you were right that something was off about this quote, . Either I transposed it incorrectly or it got changed since the article was written, but it's fixed now. Victoria (tk) 18:06, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

It's a great page Victoria, and I was pleased to see it so beautifully written. Issie and I go back a long way, so it was very pleasing to see her name in lights. Giano (talk) 22:36, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Ruth Guler

I rescued this from death by CSD this afternoon. I've already pinged one of your colleagues about this, but this woman and her hotel played host to the Prince and Princess of Wales, amongst others, and she seems from all accounts to be a complete and total nutbag, so I think it's quite possible she or it are documented in your book collection somewhere. Any thoughts on how to proceed? Ritchie333 17:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Ritchie333, I think she may be beyond my help. Giano (talk) 19:29, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Treasurer's House

Would you be kind enough to take a look at the architecture of the Treasurer's House. It is described here, here and here but it is complex (different parts of the building from different centuries and multiple revisions) and I don't think our article does it justice (and I'm a bit confused about which bits are significant enough to be included/described).— Rod 10:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Bots and nobots

Hi Giano. I am looking into our uses of the {{bots}} and {{nobots}} templates with an eye towards improving our documentation. Your user talk page was one of several that uses both templates in a meaningful way. At the top of your user page, you have {{bots|optout=ifd, nolicense}} and then later you have the {{nobots}} template. Is your intention to block all bots, but then because some bots might ignore nobots, you are attempting to catch those by also using the bots template with specific parameters? Or is there another behavior that you intend? Thanks. --B (talk) 20:47, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Civility

Please don't make personal attacks as you did here when you told another editor to "pack up your ovaries and go away". gobonobo 23:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

You may want to do a little research into history Gobonobo, although doing so prior to starting this thread would have been better. Even without the research before posting - I'd hardly call that a personal attack. — Ched :  ?  23:48, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
There's clearly a theme at work here, but I dare not mention its name. Eric Corbett 00:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
@Ched: I would like to think that an administrator like yourself would be concerned with sexist/sexual barbs like this. Giano has in the past accused the GGTF of "Gestapo like posturing" and has a history of incivility towards women editors as evidenced by his block log. Even taking into consideration the context of the discussion, "pack up your ovaries and go away" is a direct attack on a person based on their sex and was repeated in this edit summary. gobonobo 00:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)