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  • I will only change a vote if a)It now meets a guideline, or b)It has been expanded with at least 2 reference/citations through WP:V.

Re : AfD Logs

Yeah, when I just woke up, closed a few AfDs at 18 July (because I count by 120 hours rather than 5 days, AfDs list for 6 days to ensure the 120h treshold passes completely for all AfDs into the 5th day)...and then sensed something amiss. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Encyclopædia Dramatica (3rd nomination) nominator's comment was around 19 July. Then when I counted the number of hours, it became even more amiss when 18 July was way short to the 120 hours' grace. =P

Mistakes do happen now and then in this aspect, so don't worry too much about this. I understand there will be occasional hiccups on updating WP:AfD/Old, since AllyUnion's AfD/VfD bot is 'dead', which these days in the era of automation we take reliability way too much for granted. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Michael Behe mediation

I'm afraid you're being used here; there's noting to mediate. ChulaOne (talk · contribs) has failed to discuss his edits at the article in any real depth, instead favoring edit warring and rushing to force his edits in through mediation since he's unable to make a cogent case on the talk page. There is broad consensus among 6-7 long-time contributors to this article, including a number of admins, that the edits sought by ChulaOne fall short in accuracy while violating violating WP:NPOV#Undue weight and thus have no place in the article. This article has been maintained for several years now by the same very knowledgeable editors and admins. So my suggestion to all parties is that ChulaOne learn to start abiding by consensus, become more knowledgeable/less POV on the topic, and stop edit warring, and Guettarda to not waste his time. FeloniousMonk 19:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

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If you have any queries, please feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page. Welcome to our team! - Glen 07:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Please read History

The article you marked Jay Ryan was in request for more than two years. I can see why now. Four attempts at speedy deletion on a crappy subject. I don't even know who this Jay guys is.. meatclerk 02:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

When I came across the article, it looked more like a talk page. Please read WP:RS, WP:NN and WP:V. Thanks. SynergeticMaggot 02:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Jay Ryan

Why don't you. I'm about to watch a movie... —Hanuman Das 02:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I knew there was a reason I dis liked you! :p SynergeticMaggot 02:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject

• I'm wondering if you wouldnt mind me adding WikiProject Thelema as a parent project to a WikiProject I just created: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Occult? SynergeticMaggot 03:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Certainly...looks like you set up a nice project. I don't "own" WikiProject Thelema, but I appreciate your asking. Good luck with it...I will probably join eventually... –Frater5 (talk/con) 13:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Wiki Project Occult

Well, then, okay. Please note that I currently only work on WP when I'm in the office, so won't usually reply on the weekends or evenings. I'm not sure what all a Wiki Project on the occult ought to include... I'm interested in Magick and Thelema and some other aspects of the Western Mystery Tradition, but not necessarily the occult in general... -999 (Talk) 15:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It would include anything related. There are seperate WikiProjects for things like spirituality of other things of that nature, so I wont be including new age or Sylvia Browne related nonsense. Just Occult related articles that wouldnt fall under Thelema. Things like occult orders/orgs, magic(k), writers, publishers, books, styles etc. Pretty much everything you already work on. The wikiproject is new to me too. I've still got to make a template, a talk box, fix my to do list, and overall, make the main page look like its worth something so others will join! SynergeticMaggot 19:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello SM!

Sorry I didn't respond sooner - I've been "globe trotting" on business lately in Europe and sometimes net access is spotty.

So how goes it all? I don't think I can compose any new articles until I return to the USA in late August, but I'd certainly like to do an article on the Flying Rolls; there are some interesting historical quirks in their story, but I'd have to duplicate some old research and come up with the citations.

(I'm "cc:ing" this message to User 999)

- JMax555 00:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Sorry , but this is bizarro day, so the anons will be reverting vandalism by registered users. Thanks. ;) 70.30.190.97 03:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

My mistake. Browser is acting up. SynergeticMaggot 03:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Katie Leung

I am reverting honest vandalism here. 67.162.126.159 03:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

No worries. :D 67.162.126.159 03:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

New Infobox

Actually, that is not exactly what I'm looking for. I reckon those are just a list of the existing templates/infoboxes. What I need is, I want to make a really new infobox, about guitar specification, like, type of wood, artist, company and stuff. So do you know where and how can I make my own new infobox to make a new project?

Thanks - Imoeng 06:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I will spoil this page : ) just kidding

http://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Infobox

Ibanez JEM

] {{{caption}}}
Wood Type:	Adler
Pickup:	DiMarzio
Artist Related:	Steve Vai

I think its pretty good for now.. Thanks again..

Not a problem. I'm just glad to be of some help :p SynergeticMaggot 07:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Y.O.U!!

I dedicated this page for you, for guiding me... Guitar Specs Infobox

Thanks again, Imoeng 13:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Why thanks :) SynergeticMaggot 15:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thoth

By the way, I closed and moved Thoth. Thought you'd like to know. -999 (Talk) 20:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

You actually beat me to it. I was just about to move it when someone suggested it. SynergeticMaggot 20:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof

I'm afraid I do my editting from Linux; VP is a Windows program... -999 (Talk) 20:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Research Survey Request

Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Misplaced Pages. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Misplaced Pages (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

Parc wiki researcher 00:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
PARC User Interface Research Group

Done :) SynergeticMaggot 02:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Bibliography of The Da Vinci Code

Does this fall under WP:NOT? —Hanuman Das 05:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to say no. In my opinion, its an indiscriminate collection of information under WP:NOT, although the last time I tried that on AfD, it didnt go so well. They all complained because it wasnt listed under it, in the 11 filed. But I'm still looking for some guideline, even if its just proposed, because there isnt a need for it. SynergeticMaggot 05:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Would it be original research? Does this bibliography exist in some reputable source? Or is it simply the opinion of the editor(s) of the article that these books are related to the Da Vinci Code? —Hanuman Das 05:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Whadda you mean, "not copyrighted" - everything is copyrighted. A notice hasn't been required since 1985. Copyright automatically vests in the author at the moment of creation and only an explicit statement releasing the work into the public domain by the author can make it otherwise. Can you say "copyvio"? —Hanuman Das 05:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I checked the web site it was taken from, and there was no copyright on the bottom. I usually see this. Also, its more common sense for me to think that there is no copyright on a basic list of references an author used to create a fiction book. SynergeticMaggot 05:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The lack of a notice means nothing. Its copyrighted. Any copying from a website is a copyvio, notice or no. As I said, the law does not require a notice. —Hanuman Das 05:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well if you want, you can list it for AfD anyway. I'll support it of course. SynergeticMaggot 06:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

999's Vendetta

He's clearly trying to get on my case at this point. Do I report this to WP:AN or do an RfC on user?

KV(Talk) 18:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, he called Mental Gender "occult cruft" for his whole argument.

cruft

/kruhft/ 1. n.

An unpleasant substance. The dust that gathers under your bed is

cruft; the TMRC Dictionary correctly noted that attacking it with a broom only produces more. 2. n. The results of shoddy construction. 3. vt. To write assembler code for something normally (and better) done by a compiler (see hand-hacking). 4. n. Excess; superfluous junk; used esp. of redundant or superseded code. 5. n. Cruft is to hackers as gaggle is to geese; that is, at UW one properly says "a cruft of hackers".

A clear violation of WP:CIVIL

KV(Talk) 18:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Cruft is a term used on AfD. I'm not sure what you should do. If you feel he is violating some policy then yes, report him to WP:ANI, although I'm not sure how he is violating civil. SynergeticMaggot 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

prod -> AfD_AfD-2006-07-26T19:27:00.000Z">

Well, I think maybe they could be cleaned up and retitled to redeem some of the content. I'm happy to see what happens and what other editors have to say. If they're still mostly OR in a week or two, maybe I'll AfD them. If you feel more strongly about it than I do, feel free to AfD them yourself. Now, Mental Gender, on the other hand, is clearly hopeless. -999 (Talk) 19:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)_AfD"> _AfD">

If that was the case then you should have just tagged it for cleanup, expand, wikify or something related. A prod is to discuss the deletion. SynergeticMaggot 19:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, because I do think they should be deleted, but am happy to have another editor disagree and remove the tag. I see other editors are looking into it and in one case have removed the tag and in others have added additional tags. I think its better to get more opinions but not a strict survey like AfD. It's working out about the way I expected... I like it. It's a good alternative to AfD, a bit softer, doesn't take up space and multiple editor's time like AfD does... -999 (Talk) 19:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)_AfD"> _AfD">

Yeah but it doesnt always work out. Seeing as how the one that was removed, the reasoning behind it was that it was forked. Yet NOR is policy. So simply saying its forked, wouldnt override polciy in my opinion. SynergeticMaggot 19:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Which basically means that they're asking for it to be AfDed. However, since K.V. is already accusing me of a vendetta, I'll let someone else do it :-)... -999 (Talk) 19:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)_AfD"> _AfD">

I'll do it at about 8pm my time, which usually means its a fresh day for AfD. I should be the one to do it anyway, since I added the prod2. SynergeticMaggot 19:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, there you go, then. Until later... -999 (Talk) 20:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)_AfD"> _AfD">

Articles Feedback

Thank you for your feedback and I've read it sooo many times. After I read the links you gave me, WP:NN, WP:BIO, and WP:MUSIC and WP:NOR , I reckon that the main issue here is citation, where did I get the info from. As I always did, I put the sources on external links. The problem is, its in Indonesian, as probably you wouldn't understand, so how to solve this problem?

Thanks again and thanks for not deleting it :) Imoeng 10:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah see, if someone sees just a bunch of external links they still wont call it sourced. Try locating anything english pertaining to the artilcle you speak of. Also, if its a person or company/corp or related, you can use that persons main website to cite biographical content. SynergeticMaggot 10:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

But the problem is, I don't use any english language source as the source of information. Only the Dewa Budjana article has the information from his website (on the external links), but I will make the sources part.

One more thing I've done the wikipediholic test :) (what a long test), how can I post the template/userbox with my score? I've tried it but my it says my score is one, actully I scored 2100something. Or is it probably because I did it with the automatic version? Thanks - Imoeng 11:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah thats easy. Just steal it from my user page and replace the digits with your own :) SynergeticMaggot 11:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Looking forward to talk to you in the future :) Imoeng 11:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Dewa Budjana's references

Could you check it? I've made the references (its pretty hard to learn though) Imoeng 12:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoa! Wheres the english on that website? You might want to change that. Other than that you seem to have grasped the idea of citation usage, epecially with the mutiple sytle. Looks good, but english references are needed for english encyclopedias, sorry :/ SynergeticMaggot 12:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar! I'd award you one too, but then K.V. would accuse us of being in a cabal. Maybe later... -999 (Talk) 14:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pffffft. You worry to much about KV. And no problem. SynergeticMaggot 14:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right. He's not nearly as bad as FFL was. At least KV is trying to improve WP...he just sometimes goes about it in a less than optimal manner. Though I guess that could be said about me too. :-) -999 (Talk) 14:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Me as well. SynergeticMaggot 14:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Statement on Onslaught of Challenges

There are currently challenges made by the same three people, all of whom will recieve this message, on Thoth, Hermeticism, Hermetism, Cult of Hermes, Mental Gender, and Hermeticism and other thought systems all at the same time. Some people actually work for a living and have a life outside of Misplaced Pages. If you want to make challenges, you are free to do so. But when you know that they are all against the same person, have a little bit of courtesy and challenge them one or two at a time, and allow appropriate time for someone to actually do something about it. I am not a superhuman, and blitzkrieging me with all these challenges at once is unrealistic and shady. Try to have some patience and actually make it possible for me to work with you rather than trying to send me on the defensive and effectively make me leave Misplaced Pages. If this continues, I will have to make this an issue through RfC, Administrator's noticeboard, or Arbitration Committee. Try to use your time actually find sources to contradict mine if you feel that you have too much free time to wait around for me to be able to act on any given article.

KV(Talk) 16:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)