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Lightbreather's case

Because of the unusual number of participants with i-bans in this case, the consensus of the Arbitration Committee is that:

1. All i-bans and associated restrictions are suspended for participation on the /Evidence page. This suspension extends solely and exclusively to the /Evidence page but some tolerance will be given on the /Evidence talk page to link to material on the /Evidence page.

2. For simplicity, and for the purposes of this case only, one-way i-bans are regarded as two-way i-bans.

3. Threaded interactions of any description between participants are prohibited on both the /Evidence and the /Evidence talk pages.

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Motion to Recuse

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I am very disturbed that Salvio giuliano has not recused. He issued a bad block that "not supported by consensus of the oversight-l team". Per Ironholds: Wow; this is a tremendously inappropriate block, regardless of the merits, for Salvio to be making. Salvio: your many comments about Lightbreather over an extremely long period demonstrate that there is no way you are uninvolved enough to make a call here. Salvio has made numerous personal attacks on Lighbreather. I remind the committee the Arbitrators are expected to act with integrity and good faith at all times. I do not expect that Salvio will materially affect the outcome of the case, but the whole purpose of recusal is to maintain the community's trust in the integrity of the Arbitration process. I would therefore ask for the Committee to recuse Salvio. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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The committee is currently discussing it, and will issue a ruling on the matter. LFaraone 04:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@Ironholds:It's not the case that the Oversighters decided the block was incorrect. The feeling was that the block for made for the wrong reason (ie it was felt that the text was not oversightable), not that the block should never have been made, and the decision to unblock immediately was not a decision by the Oversighters. Dougweller (talk) 12:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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What User:Hawkeye7 pointed out is not a personal attacks. Lightbreather was caught lying twice, that's not a personal attack that is facts. I'm perfectly content with Salvio on the case as he is the counterweight to User:Gorilla Warfare. All of those comments deal with administrative actions and purely administrative actions do not make a person involved. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:17, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Assuming those of us who are i-banned will be allowed to address and refer to each other in this case's proceedings, I would like to ask: Is the workshop page the place for i-banned people to throw about their opinions about their fellow banned editors? If Hell in a Bucket wants to say such things, shouldn't he go to the evidence page and make a statement there? If this is an acceptable place to do what he did above, I'd like the opportunity to join in. Lightbreather (talk) 17:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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I am not familiar with the workings of whatever is going on here, but, based upon the diffs submitted above, Mr. Salvio should recuse himself. Otherwise, he should be excused from service. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 06:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. This is frankly kind of astonishing, and comes on the back of Lightbreather asking for the same thing (and receiving the message "no" for her troubles). If Salvio were ignorant of this issue, I'd get it, but it was explicitly brought up less than a week ago in relation to his OS block of Lightbreather, and the oversighters decided his block was incorrect. Now, either it's sheer coincidence that a bad call was made around someone everyone except Salvio thought he was too involved to be going near, or it's not. But for safety's sake, opt towards removing the possibility entirely. I can't believe Salvio would be so incredibly vital to a committee with a membership in two digits that they couldn't survive not having him around for one week. Ironholds (talk) 06:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@Dougweller: thanks for the clarification; my point, though, was "Salvio made the wrong call there". That he made the wrong call in evaluating the content is...more of an argument, not less. Ironholds (talk) 14:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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Proposals by Esquivalience

Proposed principles

Purpose of Misplaced Pages and the effect of disruptive editing

1) The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to produce a high-quality, verifiable, and neutral encyclopedia that anyone can use for free, disseminate, or build a derivative work upon, with some restrictions. Disruptive editing can damage or disrupt the project. Such damage or disruption not only damages the Misplaced Pages community, but ultimately, the reader.

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Consensus

2) Misplaced Pages is built upon communal consensus. Editors are expected to make a good-faith attempt to establish consensus in disputes.

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Canvassing

2.1) Notifying a select group that is expected to support the notifier's preferred outcome skews consensus, which is detrimental to the project.

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Ownership of articles

3) Misplaced Pages is edited and improved by the free work of many contributors, not just one. "Ownership" of articles is detrimental to the reader.

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Assume good faith

4) Editors must assume good faith. Lack of such an assumption harms the community and deters constructive, or in some cases, even prolific contributors.

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Do not disrupt Misplaced Pages to prove a point

5) When an editor disagrees over a rule or an application of the rule, then he/she should try to gain consensus, explaining why the rule is being misapplied or why the rule is detrimental to Misplaced Pages. Disrupting Misplaced Pages to convince editors is contrary to the spirit of consensus.

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Sockpuppetry is a serious accusation

6) When one suspects sockpuppetry, he/she must provide serious evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence. Accusing an editor of sockpuppetry in bad faith is a very serious personal attack.

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Never edit war

7) Edit warring is harmful to Misplaced Pages and individual articles. It is important that, in a content dispute, readers will still read a reasonably stable (i.e. doesn't change, in a manner detrimental to the reader, from day to day) version of an article, and that communal consensus is trying to be established.

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Tendentious editing is harmful

8) Tendentious editing (continuing to edit in an objectionable manner despite opposition) is harmful to communal consensus and the goal of building an encyclopedia. It is also considered disruptive editing.

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No personal attacks

9) Personal attacks are (and should be) taken very seriously, as they deter contributors away (the targets of personal attacks and future editors who see such attacks) and slow down the progression of Misplaced Pages.

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Misplaced Pages is not a battleground

10) Misplaced Pages is not a place to hold grudges or cast personal attacks and incivil comments.

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Sympathy is limited to understanding

11) Editors who have suffered a tragic incident should be understood. That doesn't mean that the affected editor can edit war, disrupt consensus, or violate Misplaced Pages policy.

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