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	== Someone elses moves ==

	I removed a detail that is from ''someone else's'' bio, as it is It is irrelevant to Ed Miliband . It is distracting in reading (as the text says later on: his father had 'roving' career, that should do it. Correctly, not all subsequenct job changes of another person are mentioned here). However, it was reverted twice by {{U\|Bus stop}}. Full sequence, for the es's:
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	Bus stop motivated the inclusion by explaining that that other person was his father no less, and what had happened to his father. However, I do not dispute those facts. I state that these facts are irrelevant to ''this'' bio. How is it noteworthy for Ed's bio that his father was at the LSE (or even that his father was not at LSE any more)? I see no relevant connection. Including an irrelevant fact is confusing too.


	Maybe Bus stop is not convinced by this, but others might think about it. I propose removal. -] (]) 09:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC) <small>-] (]) 09:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)</small>


	== Needs clarification on resignation ==		== Needs clarification on resignation ==

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Needs clarification on resignation

A 5 word mention of his resignation and defeat in the GE isn't really that sufficient. I've added some information but I think someone should add information seat losses etc. 86.128.123.174 (talk) 13:37, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

The undoing of Ed Miliband

Quite an interesting piece from The Guardian here that might be worth using in this article. This is Paul (talk) 21:24, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

It's a good article, but I'm struggling to find notable facts that can be used. Any ideas? SocialDem (talk) 13:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

A few things spring to mind, although without reading through the Misplaced Pages article again, I don't know if we've used them already. But here goes:

There's the disastrous party conference speech in which he forgot to mention the economy.
Labour's apparent lack of direction before and during the election campaign.
Making reasonably good points about the direction of the coalition that were often never followed up.
The so-called Ed Stone.
Tory speculation of a Labour-SNP coalition.
Forget now, but I think they may also have mentioned a lack of narrative post-2010 that allowed the coalition to blame Labour for creating a world recession.

Possibly not all of this would be relevant here, but I'm happy to read through this again at some point in the next few days and make more suggestions. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 14:25, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, some of these are good points and could do with inclusion. Guess I'm reluctant to use too much stuff based on "he said, she said", so I think it's worth looking for supporting sources.

For what it's worth, I'm currently working through this book to flesh out the 2012-2014 years which are a bit bare at the moment. Can hopefully include some of the Wintour article too. SocialDem (talk) 15:31, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like quite a useful book, and great work so far btw. This is Paul (talk) 20:12, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

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