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(message from Hal Plotkin)

Hi Wikimandia:

My name is Hal Plotkin and I am the subject of an article you recently edited. Thank you for your interest in this article and for your efforts to improve it. However, I noticed that you inserted what I assume are some inadvertent errors, non sequiturs and other problems. In other cases, you have omitted accurate, germane, referenced information. I am reluctant to fix those problems myself because of Misplaced Pages's conflict of interest guidelines so I thought I would instead point them out to you -- at least those that are most obvious -- hoping you might be willing to fix the errors you inserted (some of which are substantial and others which merely involve proper use of the English language or what may be typos).

Here, for example, is one major problem:

"In 2003, Plotkin initiated the district's Policy on Public Domain Learning Materials which are now more commonly known as Open Educational Resources."

Problem: you omitted the foundational information that explains that in 2003 I was elected to the non-partisan Foothill-De Anza Community College District Governing Board of Trustees, which oversees two community colleges in Silicon Valley with approx. 45,000 students. As such, the reference above to "the district's Policy" makes no sense and renders your edit on this point incoherent.

Thus, it would be appropriate to restore this text -- which you deleted -- to the article:

Plotkin is a former member and president of the Foothill–De Anza Community College District Board of Trustees and Chair of the District's Committee on Audit and Finance. He is the first graduate of Foothill College to ever serve on its governing board.

The information in the second sentence about being the first graduate of the college to ever serve on its governing board is germane and pertinent; it has a direct bearing on the work I have done and continue to do to increase college affordability in ways not contemplated by previous governing boards.

Here is an English language usage problem:

"He attended college part-time over the next 10 years while working a variety of jobs, including Comprehensive Employment and Training Act worker serving as an aide to then-Santa Clara County Supervisor Rod Diridon, Sr."

Problem:

This is clunky English. The proper sentence construction would be:

"He attended college part-time over the next 10 years while working in a variety of jobs, including as a Comprehensive Employment and Training Act worker serving as an aide to then-Santa Clara County Supervisor Rod Diridon, Sr."

Here is another English language usage problem:

Your edit:

"Plotkin worked a Silicon Valley-based journalist and commentator whose published and broadcast work often focused on technology, business, public policy, education and science."

Problem: The sentence is not proper English. It is missing the word "as" between "worked" and "a" and it repeats the same word, "work", twice in the same sentence. It should read:

"Plotkin is a longtime (or veteran) Silicon Valley-based journalist and commentator whose published and broadcast work often focused on technology, business, public policy, education and science."

In the section entitled "Professional Career" there are a number of significant problems, as follows:

The first paragraph of this section now duplicates information that appears in the last paragraph of this section. While duplicating some of this information you have also omitted related information, such as the more complete list of representative publications to which I have contributed articles and the list of publications that have cited or mentioned my work. I am a professional writer and commentator -- confusing readers about these points renders the article less accurate and less useful, which is not a goal most Misplaced Pages editors would embrace, in my experience.

Thus, I suggest you revert to the original accurate list of publications I have written for and revert to the accurate list of publications that have cited my work, as follows:

"Plotkin's publishers include Inc. magazine, Inc. International, International Business magazine, Forbes ASAP, Barron's Online, California magazine, California Business magazine, CNBC.com, Family Business magazine, The Harvard Management Update, The Harvard Management Communications Update, Securities Industry Daily, Ernst & Young's Entrepreneur of the Year magazine, France's Courrier International newspaper, Biotechnology magazine, Biotechnology In Japan Newsservice, The Peninsula Times Tribune, Investools.com, Arthur Andersen's Knowledgespace.com, and the San Jose Metro, among others.

Publications citing Plotkin's work include Die Welt, Mac Week Japan, Brazil's 80/20, The Taipei Times, The Industry Standard, ZDnet.com, MSNBC.com, Wired.com, The National Review, The California Hydrogen Business Council and Nanotechnology News, among others."

In addition, if you are concerned with accuracy, you could also ad LaMonde to the list of publications citing my work, (see: http://www.lemonde.fr/education/article/2013/12/18/l-amerique-reve-du-savoir-en-un-clic_4336111_1473685.html)

In this section, you have also omitted this referenced paragraph:

In 2011, an essay Plotkin wrote on astrophysics ten years earlier was republished as a chapter in Gale Cengage Learning's "At Issue" series of textbooks.

This information about my professional background is also pertinent and germane for inclusion in the section about my professional background and I suggest you revert your deletion. Again, I don't think it is customary or proper for Misplaced Pages editors to delete information about publications produced by the subjects of wikipedia articles, particularly when those article subjects are journalists and writers.

You have also deleted this information below, which explains what the Foothill-De Anza Community College District is, how governing board members are selected (in a non-partisan election) and the location of this community college district (in the heart of Silicon Valley). That information, which is useful for anyone seeking information about my professional background, is contained in this deleted paragraph:

"Plotkin was elected to the FHDA board in November 2003 by the voters in Palo Alto, Mountain View, Cupertino, Sunnyvale, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills and parts of San Jose and Saratoga. During this time, he also served as a member of the Association of Community College Trustees' (ACCT) Committee on Public Policy. In 2007, he was re-elected, without opposition, to another full term on the Foothill–De Anza Board after having been elected earlier that year as board president."

In the interests of accuracy (and coherence)I would suggest your revert your deletion of this information.

In addition, I note that you have taken the liberty to redefine me professionally at the top of the article with the claim that I am a "politician." In truth, I am an American journalist, public servant (or former U.S. government official), and activist. I last ran for partisan (political) public office in the U.S. in 1993 (22 years ago!). In 2003, I was elected to a non-partisan (non-political, the political parties have no role in such elections here in the U.S.) position on a community college board of trustees, which is essentially a school board. If your definition of my profession holds then, to be fair, anyone who has ever served on a non-partisan school board and who has a page on Misplaced Pages must also be redefined as a "politician." Since that would not be proper I would request in the interests of accuracy that my profession be reverted to "an American journalist, former U.S. government official, and activist." I should also note that my position in the Obama administration was a non-political position, governed by the U.S. federal Hatch Act, which prohibits any partisan political activities.

Again, thank you very much for your interest in me and in this article. I assume no hostile intent on your part and appreciate your efforts to improve the article. I also assume the errors and omissions noted above were made in haste rather than in malice or disregard. I also appreciate the open practices embraced in the Misplaced Pages community and trust you will regard and act on these requests in that same spirit.

Finally, I should add that the problems noted above may not reflect all the inaccuracies or material omissions created by your edit and that others may also be present. Instead, the list of problems cited above reflects the most obvious inaccuracies and omissions that do the most serious damage to the accuracy of the article.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if I can provide any additional information to assist your review of this matter. Hplotkin (talk) 18:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Hal Plotkin

• @Hplotkin: Hi Hal, thanks for the message. I removed the word politician from your intro - I agree you should not be categorized as such. As far as I know, there are not any Misplaced Pages guidelines that prevent you from making copyedit corrections to your own article for things like missing words, punctuation, etc. I've made these fixes and have reworked it so things are not redundant. Also, as I'm sure you can appreciate, things that are seen as significant by the subject of an article are not necessarily seen that way by others. For example, whether you are the first or 300th Foothill graduate to serve on the board of De Anza Community College district does not seem significant to me. If you're unhappy with the rest of it, I think that for the sake of transparency the best thing to do is bring it up on the talk page: I don't assume any ownership whatsoever to the article, I simply came across it and, seeing the need, edited it. Have a great day. —Мандичка 😜 12:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Duke of Wellington

Hello! Just FYI I reverted your repointing of Duke of Wellington to the (title) page. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but the way it is set up now is the result of some extensive discussion at Talk:Duke_of_Wellington_(title)#Requested_move_.28--.3E_Dukedom_of_Wellington.29. Also note Special:WhatLinksHere/Duke_of_Wellington; pretty much every one of these links to Duke of Wellington are supposed to be links to the article about the 1st, not the title generally. If you want to revisit this, I'd suggest opening a discussion at Talk:Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington and advertising it at Talk:Duke_of_Wellington_(title) also (or the other way 'round). Cheers! ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 05:10, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

And similarly for Marlborough. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 05:18, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@ErikHaugen: Thanks for the note, no problem. I don't agree, since I'm a fan of things being uniformly named and as accurately as possible, but I understand it's already been discussed. —Мандичка 😜 05:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, the consistency argument gets a lot of traction in those discussions. On the other side, it's mostly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. It's tough to weigh these, in general. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 05:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Arthur Hay, 15th Earl of Kinnoull

Is there any information concerning his party?--The Theosophist (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

• @The Theosophist: He was a conservative. I updated his page :-) —Мандичка 😜 11:16, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much!--The Theosophist (talk) 20:36, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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As it's used for an interview, it's probably ok as a source, but we wouldn't use a site that calls itself a travel guide as a source for history. Dougweller (talk) 12:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Dougweller: I'm not sure why you're leaving me this message - this was used as a source long before I got to the article. I could tell it's an amateurish site but since it was in his own words I left it. —Мандичка 😜 18:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Oops, I misread, sorry. Dougweller (talk) 18:50, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

@Dougweller: no problem, thanks for the message. Have a great weekend. —Мандичка 😜 19:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Royal Caledonian Ball

Thank you for creating Royal Caledonian Ball. I had actually started a draft at User:Zigzig20s/Royal Caledonian Ball. I will have to delete my draft, but perhaps we could use some of my weblinks to add more in-line referenced info to your article.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Thank you so much! Please don't delete your draft yet - it will really improve the article! Right now it's just barely not a stub. If you want you can just copy your information in, since you've already written it, and you should get credit for that. Since it happens soon, maybe it could get it featured somehow. —Мандичка 😜 21:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I added a bit, but frankly I think it would be easier if you took what you wanted from my draft. Perhaps there could be two separate sections for fashion and the reels.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: I want everything from your draft :-) If you want to put it in, that would be great. I don't think I'm allowed to copy it and add it like it's my own, and it doesn't need to be rewritten. Definitely a separate section for fashion and reels! I can go in and edit it to move things around and add more. Thank you so much. —Мандичка 😜 23:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I added more. You could use the Tatler links to add a paragraph about the recent attendees; lots of wikilinks to articles about aristocrats no doubt. I don't have time to do it (partly why my draft was on the backburner for so long). Do you need any more content from my draft? I think I've moved more or less everything.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Awesome! Can you add this? "By 1849, it had become a fundraiser for Scottish charities helping vulnerable schoolchildren, the homeless, and cancer patients." and "Traditionally, the Duke and Duchess of Atholl are the first couple to start the dance, followed by his private army, the Atholl Highlanders." That's great info. Thanks so much! —Мандичка 😜 23:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Done.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Thank you so much!!!!!!!! :-) —Мандичка 😜 23:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Sure. Let me know how it goes.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Of course!!! :-) —Мандичка 😜 00:14, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Btw, I've just created a redirect for the Quorn Hunt Ball and added some info to the main article about it. If you are able to find sufficient information about the ball itself, it might be good to create its own page. Let me know if you want to do this. Btw, it is easier if you reply on my talkpage each time. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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You were edit warring against two users on John Hay, 12th Earl of Erroll, even though you haven't quite broken the 3RR. Your sockpuppetry accusation against two established users here is objectionable, and so is your argument here. No, infoboxes are not "standard", and you don't have consensus for adding one. If you carry on with this kind of behaviour, you will be blocked. Bishonen | talk 18:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Thanks for you message... however, is it not objectionable for people to leave insults in the edit summary? Btw, did you even check their histories? It's fairly obvious they are either socks or colluding offline; "Eric Corbett" had never edited that article but popped up right after Sagaciousphil did two reverts. What a coincidence. And Eric Corbett had already been blocked multiple times for incivility (as recently as February). —Мандичка 😜 19:23, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

There are no insults in the edit summaries. You are indeed edit warring, and if you do it again you will be blocked, regardless of 3R. The suggestion of socking is ridiculous, and the suggestion of collusion more than highly unlikely. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 19:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

@Drmies: ORLY? How would you like it if someone said your changes to an article made it "an abortion"? And what are the odds he just happened to jump in to do the third revert on an article... an article that he'd never worked on... about an obscure person who died hundreds of years ago... why, what an amazing coincidence!! ORLY!!!!! —Мандичка 😜 19:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Sagaciousphil and I have worked on many articles together, particularly Scottish articles; I watch what she's up to and vice versa. The idea that we're sock puppets is simply ludicrous. Eric Corbett 21:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't be happy but it's not a personal attack. As for that SPI, it's always a good idea to look before you leap. Drmies (talk) 21:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Who can convey happiness? The truth is much easier, but I'm yet to see much of that either. Eric Corbett 22:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

In case you, dear five precious friends, care about my happiness, don't open another infobox can. If you need better arguments than "ugly" look at Beethoven where you will also find that all these arguments are not convincing. How about asking the readers if they would like something for the person in question that kings and queens and Handel get. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hello Wikimandia: Thank you very much for your offer to help make the article on the Jewish-Palestinian Living Room Dialogue Group more acceptable. I really appreciate it. I am a relatively new editor and though I have read the rules about editing, I still have much to learn and could definitely benefit from your experience. As you can see on the talk page, Sandstein has asked that those of us who have already edited the article back off for now and I want to respect that; so any edits that you can offer will be valuable. I have printed out the page as it now stands and I will watch the page to see the changes that you make so that I can better understand what I should have done as opposed to what I did when editing the page. Unicorn46 (talk) 04:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

• Unicorn46 - No problem! I'll work on it in the next day or so, and give you a general summary of what changes I've made and why. Fortunately it looks like it is not in danger of being deleted; there are enough people who have pointed out that it more than meets the requirements. —Мандичка 😜 18:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Wikimandia: I do so appreciate this. I would like to learn how to be a good editor as I value the contribution that Misplaced Pages makes on the educational front. I am also endlessly impressed by the fact that people from all over the world, most of whom have never met each other and probably never will, generously volunteer their time for a greater purpose. I am also hopeful that you are right about the page not being deleted as there are many good resources associated with the page that can be helpful to other people working on using dialogue to resolve conflict. I will watch for your edits and am more than grateful for your offer to take the extra step of providing a general summary of the changes you will make and an explanation of why you have made them. That will be very helpful for my learning. Unicorn46 (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Wikimandia: I noticed that some editing has been done on the Jewish-Palestinian Living Room Dialogue page and that some citations were needed so I added citations 14, 15, and 16. If those are not appropriate, please let me know. For the citations related to the Foundation for Global Community and the Peninsula Conflict Resolution Center, you have to page down a ways on both pages to get to the actual mention of the Dialogue Group. Should I have noted that in the citation, or just assume that people will find it on their own? Thank you Unicorn46 (talk) 00:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Unicorn46 Hey there! I'm so sorry, I've just done some stuff with the infobox. I'll attack it tomorrow :-) —Мандичка 😜 00:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Wikimandia: Absolutely no worries. I just very much appreciate your willingness to wade in and help.Unicorn46 (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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Plays

Hi, can you check the interwiki translation title links are correct here? Any help to start them too as part of the project would be much appreciated!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: - I made a couple small changes :-) I didn't know about this project... what an awesome idea! I'll try to start helping as soon as I can. —Мандичка 😜 00:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, if you could start a few articles/check the translations this would be great. Each month or two we should have 10 articles for a Bulgarian topic. Long term you're welcome to list missing articles at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Bulgarian. Churches and Theatre of Sofia in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Bulgarian/Buildings for instance, Bulgarian history articles in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Bulgarian/History etc. I know other wikis are often unsourced and not great, but they're a good starting point for transferring content if external reliable sources can be found to support the transfer, ransacking categories on other wikipedias is the best way to find missing content of course. If you could try to get others at the Bulgarian project involved with this in a coordination between groups this would be great. I have been meaning to create some stubs on Bulgarian films and actors sometime, I believe I was the one who created the lists by decade originally.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, can you expand The Bishop of Lovech? First Bulgarian play, worth it! At the Foot of Vitosha also, both might make DYK ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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List of persons and things mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh ‎

That's so nice and delicate an edit to make, for you to swoop down and add those 2 dots!but... how did you find the discussion? I'm wondering so. Whalestate (talk) 08:51, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

ANI

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May 2015

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Diploma in Homoeopathic Medicine & Surgery. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You used abusive language moron for me in this discussion. I have left relevant message there and posting a caution here. You owe an apology to undersigned and in future you must NOT use such language towards any other editor. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 11:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@AKS.9955: You should apologize for wasting people's time and creating unnecessary drama by nominating articles for deletion that you don't want deleted. I stand by my judgement: moronic. —Мандичка 😜 12:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:Wikimandia#May 2015. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Despite raising objection and a caution; you have continued personal attack and use of abusing language. I have already made a complaint on WP:ANI against your abusive nature. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 12:29, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@AKS.9955: I haven't been abusive in the least. Please stop writing on my board and wasting everyone's time with this sideshow. Go worry about the articles you made that people (including you, apparently) want to delete. —Мандичка 😜 12:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Keep calm and carry on товарищка. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 19:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@Sturmgewehr88: awwww ...спасибо большое!!!! :-) —Мандичка 😜 19:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@Wikimandia: Конечно :) ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 19:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Grigoriy Dobrygin

On 18 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grigoriy Dobrygin, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the actor and director Grigoriy Dobrygin, who has been called the "Russian James Franco", is a classically trained ballet dancer who studied at the Bolshoi Theatre? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grigoriy Dobrygin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Imposters

Thank you for the comment on Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Paul_H._Lemmen. My plan is exactly what you suggested, to make an article devoted to the topic. My draft is here and you are welcome to contribute or suggest before it goes live.Legitimus (talk) 10:50, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

• @Legitimus: Awesome! Article looks great and well-sourced. I'm glad you included the motivation section because they have a unique motivation that differs from other imposters (ie people who lie about credentials) and this aspect has been covered in RS too —Мандичка 😜 10:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Post death pages

• I am asking that you revisit tech CEO Rachel Jacobs. As you suggested might occur, there has been some post-death coverage. For example, an article in today's Forbes that pairs her death with the recent death of tech CEO Michael Goldberg, a page written in response to his death. Jacobs page has improved since you saw it, ApprenNet is now blue-linked and while ApprenNet is not exactly SurveyMonkey, I think there is enough to justify an article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

E.M.Gregory - done, I agree. Happy to change my position to keep. Thanks for doing all this work! —Мандичка 😜 13:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

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Sign

Heyo! Just to be clear, I like your signature. Though, I feel the inclusion of that smiley in every comment you make somewhat odd. There is nothing wrong with it and it does not affect your argument, but it may not serve the seriousness of your words. The idea of "😜" appearing after everything you say, despite of that being only in your sign, feels a bit immature. I only wanted to leave a little note on what I felt. Like I said, I like the sign and I am ok with it :) Cheers, — Yash!  01:17, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Yash! Thanks for your comment. FYI, I really don't consider anything I say to be particularly serious, in the big picture of things. Misplaced Pages is not real life and people should not treat it as such. WP would be a much more pleasant place if people stopped to remember that, don't you agree? 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜 —Мандичка 😜 01:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Haha I couldn't agree more! The Internet is not Serious Business :D — Yash!  01:34, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Ahah you get it!!!! Internet is NOT serious business :-D —Мандичка 😜 01:47, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Detective Willy for deletion

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Re: Muhamed Filipović AfD Nomination

Greetings. I initially called for delete on the article because the claims put forth weren't backed at all by references. I don't need specialist knowledge, or even mild interest, in a subject to recommend 'delete' in such circumstances. When one good source was cited, I duly removed the delete recommendation, leaving the criticism. The people calling for 'keeps' seem partisan, often a problem on articles concerning The Balkans. So, I'll leave it to others to recommend "Keep." I don't like partisanship--actively and passively discourage it. I saw nothing in the pages you cited that discourage people from making recommendations at AfD if they lack expertise and/or interest in articles, nor anything obliging recommenders to search out references. Try straightforward English when communicating @ Misplaced Pages, please. You may be OK, but a cursory analysis of your comment to me, 'keep' comment for the article, and the recent writings on your talk page convince me you're not "100% awesome." Since I'm far from 100% awesome, I have some expertise in the matter. Tapered (talk) 05:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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Murtada Sharif 'Askari

Would you copy edit Murtada Sharif 'Askari too? I nominated the article for DYK, but it needs to copy edit. Thanks. Munifi3nt (talk) 13:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Munifi3nt, yes, I can copy edit. Do you have a photo? They want to have a photo for all DYK articles. —Мандичка 😜 13:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I do not have a photo but I think there is no problem. I nominated another DYK before and they did not want to have a photo. Munifi3nt (talk) 13:55, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, it seems there is a mistake. Murtada Sharif 'Askari needs to copyedit. Munifi3nt (talk) 14:16, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, I will copy edit now. Also I put some photos on Borunsi - it will be good for Abd-al-Hussai Borunsi to have an article. —Мандичка 😜 14:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Munifi3nt, I am still finishing the copyediting - who is Mirza Khalili Kumriyi? A scholar or religious leader? I tried to make sure the spelling was right but cannot find it. Also, can you please translate the titles for Khamsun wa mi’ a sahabi mukhtaliq, Al-Tawassul bi al-Nabi(s) wa al-Tabarruk bi Atharihi and Abdullah Ibn Saba' wa Asatir Ukhra ? —Мандичка

YO 😜 15:17, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :)

Mirza Khalili Kumriyi is a scholar. He was the teacher of Allhama Askari.

Khamsun wa mi’ a sahabi mukhtaliq: 150 so-called companions (150 persons who did not exist but many believe they were the companions of Islamic Prophet)

Al-Tawassul bi al-Nabi(s) wa al-Tabarruk bi Atharihi: recourse to the Prophet and consecration to his relic

Abdullah Ibn Saba' wa Asatir Ukhra: Abdullah ibn Saba and other historical legends. (Abdullah ibn Saba is a name of person) Munifi3nt (talk) 15:42, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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Close on AFD GoodWin's Law

I reverted your close, first, it's way too soon to close it. Please allow a sysop to close it out as a NAC can only be used when there are no "Delete " votes. KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 21:32, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

• KoshVorlon: There are no delete votes and three speedy keeps; additionally, article subject clearly meets notability. If you revert it again I am reporting you. Quit wasting people's time. —Мандичка 😜 21:36, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

• :See WP:ANI#KoshVorlon vs Timothyjosephwood JoeSperrazza (talk) 21:37, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Lean to read, my AFD IS a delete vote, therefore you can't NAC the damn thing. KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 21:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

At Misplaced Pages:Non-admin_closure#AfD, it states “experienced non-admins in good standing may consider closing a discussion on that page which is beyond doubt a clear keep.”

1. Misplaced Pages:Snowball clause states, as one criteria, “the resulting decision is unanimous”. It is not the case that one’s opening an , as you put it, counts as a Delete (non-unanimous Keep) because, if that were so, there could never be a “Snow keep” on an AFD.
2. Additionally, the article had already been through two prior AFDs, both closed as “Snow keep”s. So, not only was your AFD ill-formed (it was a 3rd attempt, and needs to be corrected to reflect that), common sense suggests it had no chance at being closed as Delete (the essence of a Snow Keep).
3. Finally, it strains credulity when you assert, twice: & , that your AFD was unrelated to your dispute with User:Timothyjosephwood.

I think you need to take a short break and chill. JoeSperrazza (talk)

Your GA nomination of The Scots Peerage

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Your GA nomination of The Scots Peerage

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• SNUGGUMS There are no reasons on the Talk page. —Мандичка 😜 22:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

• See Talk:The Scots Peerage/GA1 for my comments. The bot says to consult talk page since review links tend to be found there. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:06, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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Sadly I have no newsletter

But I did wait five hours to see your youtube link that I can't view at work. Worth. I would give you one of those "I gave you a random thing on your talk page" things, but I don't believe in those. Also I don't know how to do those and saying I don't believe in them is a convenient excuse not to do it. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 05:03, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

• Timothyjosephwood, same here - no idea. And yet I feel I'm quite comfortable with my level of knowledge of barnstars. If that chunk of info were to creep into my head, it might push out something else, like how to deal with shark attacks. —Мандичка 😜 08:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

1 Park Lane

FYI, I changed my !vote regarding the deletion discussion per new information from Witkoff representatives stating that no plans have been developed at this time. -War wizard90 (talk) 03:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

File:X tour ed sheeran.jpg listed for deletion

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Alexander Oshunloye

I moved the original and incorrect page Alexander Oshunloye (Entrepreneur) to the current title. At some stage it reappeared at the original and I moved it again. Apologies, any move to a double redirect was completely unintended, don't know how I did it Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:48, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Jimfbleak, the strange thing is that the entire history of the article is gone. There's nothing there before you moving it. Not that it makes a huge difference, but since this is a current AfD, we lost evidence of the article subject repeatedly removing the AfD template. —Мандичка 😜 12:56, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Some of the history was lost through a deletion, I've re-deleted and restored, the full history is now there, sorry about the confusion, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Sourced another article started by an SPA

Writing to request that you revisit Jean Griswold, an AFD that you !Voted on early - it was a terrible piece of SPA promotion (not of self, of an elderly, former employer. SPA has withdrawn gracefully) It caught my fancy and I sourced it, deleted hype. See what you think.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

E.M.Gregory I'll take a look! —Мандичка 😜 06:33, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Fifth Street Asset Management

Hello Wikimandia. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Fifth Street Asset Management, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article is at AFD. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrog 03:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I Am Cait

Thank you for creating this article. I added it to Misplaced Pages:Wiki Loves Pride 2015/Results, which tracks new and improved LGBT-related articles during the month of June as part of the annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. If you create or improve other LGBT-related articles this month, please feel free to add them to this list as well. Thanks again! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:48, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Another Believer, you're welcome! Can't wait till it airs. —Мандичка 😜 06:33, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Cardiac arrest/cause of death

Hi Wikimandia -

I just thought I would drop you a message regarding Aarthi Agarwal. Cardiac and respiratory arrest are widely considered "terminal events" rather than causes of death, even though published lay sources often get this wrong. While it's not a WP guideline, the CDC makes the distinction more clear here (the first paragraph inside the box). In other words, all people die because their heart and lungs cease to function, rendering that essentially meaningless as a descriptor around the time of death. Sometimes we end up saying cardiac arrest in an article because there's no sourced description of what actually happened.

I feel like the Times of India reference was explicit in stating that "the death was caused by a heart complication caused by the surgery." I compare this to someone who dies in a car accident. We could truthfully say they died of cardiac arrest, or that they died of a ruptured aorta, but both of those things have lots of mechanisms, so "car accident" makes the most sense. The same way, I think that "complications from surgery" is the most clear, but I didn't want to revert without discussion.

Thanks! EricEnfermero (Talk) 23:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@EricEnfermero: Thanks for the note. Considering she just died today, it's premature to assume it was caused by surgery 10 days ago (even if it was likely related). Things are not always what they seem. For all we know the surgery went fine, but her ex husband injected her with nicotine to kill her. Additionally, cardiac arrest is a sufficient cause of death for encyclopedic purposes; see Joan Rivers and many others. We just don't know yet what the underlying complication was that induced it. (See death cause for Michael Jackson.) —Мандичка 😜 00:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I respect your concern for accuracy here. I just think of this with the reverse point of view. We had a descriptive cause of death that was reliably sourced, but we took it out based on our assumption that the timing of events didn't make sense. I don't think we have adequate reason to question the source, especially based on our own opinions. My job experience that tells me it's not an implausible scenario, but that experience is irrelevant because of what the reliable sources say. We may want to move this to the article talk page. In my head, I was thinking that this would be a quicker discussion. EricEnfermero (Talk) 00:37, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

The Michael Jackson cause of death isn't totally bad, even if it uses cardiac arrest. :) I like the description in the body of Joan Rivers, but the infobox doesn't provide any info that would distinguish her death from any other person who has ever died. EricEnfermero (Talk) 00:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Personally I think it's self-explanatory. The COD does not need to go down to the cellular level - therefore it's sufficient and accurate to list basic COD (ie pulmonary embolism; asphyxiation by hanging; plane crash; etc.) —Мандичка 😜 00:56, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

We're on the same page in a lot of ways. I would just consider cardiac arrest to be the unnecessary level. Cardiac arrest can be assumed and the underlying (non-cellular-level) cause can be used if sourced - like complications from surgery or any of your suggestions if applicable. EricEnfermero (Talk) 01:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

And after they do an autopsy it will be possible to be more specific. —Мандичка 😜 01:22, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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Re: WP:BLP/N

Please don't change your comments after other editors have replied to them. See WP:REDACT, which is part of our Talk page guidelines. Thank you. — MShabazz /_Stalk 18:45, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

• @MShabazz: Please don't write silly things on my wall. Obviously, I didn't change my comment in any meaningful way; I only added to my original argument. You're allowed to edit your own comment; nothing was changed that affected the context in which someone replied. As you can see at WP:REDACT, it refers to editing your own comments to to correct false information or remove (or redact) personal attacks and warns against the possibility that Removing or substantially altering a comment after someone else has replied may deprive the reply of its original context; I fail to see how this applies to these edits or could cause an issue regarding all two replies - yours claiming speedy doesn't apply and the other one that appears to support that this article needs to take a one-way trip to Delete Street. —Мандичка 😜 19:00, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello!

I think that a new sock of the banned user:Saqraat / MrX is back. He is editing from the username "Malik Mubashir Awan". Khestwol (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Khestwol, Yes, I mentioned that in the latest AfD. How do you reactivate a closed sock investigation? —Мандичка 😜 20:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

I guess we have to just ask an admin. DMacks is the admin who just today indefinitely blocked another sock Shehzad Uddin (talk · contribs) that belongs to Saqraat. I have notified the admin on his talk page of this new sock too. Khestwol (talk) 20:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, Great minds think... I have just reported him at WP:AIV. Perhaps you can add a note there about the suspected SOCK account as well. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

I created a new sockpuppet investigation - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo. Hopefully they can do more to block his IP. Obviously he thinks it's his mission in life to to convince the world of his ethnic theories, so he's not going to just give up. —Мандичка 😜 22:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for that Мандичка. Hopefully the disruption by him will be stopped by that. Khestwol (talk) 09:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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June 2015

I see that you have been previously warned and should be aware of the existence of WP:NPA. This is a blatant personal attack, therefore I blocked your account for 24h. May I please also remind you that this is English Misplaced Pages, and you are expected to write in English.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:29, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Totally worth it :-D —Мандичка 😜 01:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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A cup of coffee for you!

For Mandichka for being a good contributor. Khestwol (talk) 10:46, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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IKEA Pencil

Hi Wikimandia. I have reverted your strikethrough of my !vote, as i think you misunderstood what i had done. The nominator had changed their position, but not signed it, so i indicated that fact; my belief is still that the article clearly meets our criteria for existing and as such should not be deleted. Thanks, Cheers, Lindsay 20:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

• Ooops, I thought that was your comment. So sorry. Thanks for the note! —Мандичка 😜 20:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

No harm, no foul; i figured it was a simple mistake! Easily fixable ~ this wonderful wikimagic. Cheers, Lindsay 20:37, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

AFD closures

Please do NOT close AFD's that you yourself have already voted in. It is inappropriate per WP:CLOSEAFD, which says that whoever closes the discussion must be an uninvolved user. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:32, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Seriously SNUGGUMS? Administrative hopeful, huh? LOL. Good luck. —Мандичка 😜 00:10, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

No need to be rude; I was simply pointing out that closures from involved users in discussions is inappropriate. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

To be fair I myself close AFDs I've voted in If the outcomes extremely obvious (Yeah you're not really supposed too but I see no point in letting an AFD drag on just for the pure hell of it) and I think this is one of those AFDs where the outcome was indeed blatantly obvious, Anywho thanks Wikimandia for closing :). –Davey2010 00:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

You were not "simply pointing it out" - you reverted the admin's redirect and re-opened the AfD!!! All for WP:POINT. As Davey2010 said, people do this occasionally when there is no controversy, and it's simple housekeeping and being helpful. It doesn't matter who closes the AfD in these cases. When people see this kind of "hall monitoring" going on for articles as ridiculous as Bunny with a pancake on its head, it makes them less interested in this place. —Мандичка 😜 00:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Lee Harvey Oswald

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Warning for WP:NOTTHERE

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Pro-life POV

I did add sources, but not to the article; rather the discussion. Just because you push a pro-life POV doesn't mean that the sources I provided are wrong. In relation to "unsources claims", I don't even know what you are talking about. As I said, get a clue and stop being so unnerving. --92slim (talk) 07:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)