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Hi Tadeusz Nowak...I was going to say the same thing about edit summaries. ] uses "communal consensus" and "When editing, be sure to summarize your contributions." . As we use ], those going against consensus have a harder time here, which you will continue to do. I only didn't template you as another editor just did. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span>; ]</span> 20:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC) | Hi Tadeusz Nowak...I was going to say the same thing about edit summaries. ] uses "communal consensus" and "When editing, be sure to summarize your contributions." . As we use ], those going against consensus have a harder time here, which you will continue to do. I only didn't template you as another editor just did. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span>; ]</span> 20:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Your move of German Army (1935-45)
You recently moved the article German Army (1935-45) to German Army (1935–46). The reason you gave was that the German Army of World War II was demobilized only in 1946. The source you cited in the article refers to a formation of the military police disbanded in 1946.
I should like to ask you to undo your move, as the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany as well as the Federal Court of Justice of Germany have both ruled in the 1950s that the German Wehrmacht, and all it constituent parts, have ceased to exist after 8 May 1945. Furthermore, the CC ruled that the Proclamation No.2, Directive 18 and Law No. 34 of the Allied Control Commission were merely declaratory in character. So under German law, which should apply in this case, 8 May 1945 marks the end of all German military forces.
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- As long as someone is a prisoner of war, they are actively serving military personnel, and since most prisoners of war were repatriated and demobilized only in 1946, and since a number of army functions continued to be active until that time, for example the military justice passing out sentences on soldiers while POWs for things like, being rude to an officer or not obeying orders, the army was certainly not disbanded on 8 May 1945. That's a laughable idea, and absolutely not how a surrender works under international law. An army can not per definition be "disbanded" as long as it still has (as it had until 1946) a vast number of actively serving military personnel under military jurisdiction who have not been demobilized. First when all personnel is demobilized, an army can be disbanded. Tadeusz Nowak (talk) 05:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- I am sure you have reliable sources supporting your view. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 06:12, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- The Wehrmacht was only dissolved on 20 August 1946 by the Allied control council, after it had been demobilized from the summer of 1945 onwards and through 1946. (Large, David Clay (1996). Germans to the Front: West German Rearmament in the Adenauer Era, p. 25). This is of course also mentioned in the main Wehrmacht article. Until that date, it was active, with serving (conscripted and professional) military personnel wearing Army uniform and being under military Wehrmacht Army jurisdiction and military command. There was quite a lot of activity going on involving the Wehrmacht Army in the time after 8 May 1945. (It's impossible to demobilize an army with millions of soldiers stationed in multiple countries in just one day.) If it had been disbanded on 8 May 1945, the conscripted Army soldiers would by definition no longer be obliged to serve (not be under military command) and could not have been held as POWs under international law any longer; this was of course not the case at all. Tadeusz Nowak (talk) 08:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- I think this should be discussed in a more approbriate setting, like here. ÄDA - DÄP VA (talk) 09:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- The Wehrmacht was only dissolved on 20 August 1946 by the Allied control council, after it had been demobilized from the summer of 1945 onwards and through 1946. (Large, David Clay (1996). Germans to the Front: West German Rearmament in the Adenauer Era, p. 25). This is of course also mentioned in the main Wehrmacht article. Until that date, it was active, with serving (conscripted and professional) military personnel wearing Army uniform and being under military Wehrmacht Army jurisdiction and military command. There was quite a lot of activity going on involving the Wehrmacht Army in the time after 8 May 1945. (It's impossible to demobilize an army with millions of soldiers stationed in multiple countries in just one day.) If it had been disbanded on 8 May 1945, the conscripted Army soldiers would by definition no longer be obliged to serve (not be under military command) and could not have been held as POWs under international law any longer; this was of course not the case at all. Tadeusz Nowak (talk) 08:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I think you handled the discussion quite well. Great job! Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Tadeusz Nowak...I was going to say the same thing about edit summaries. WP:ES uses "communal consensus" and "When editing, be sure to summarize your contributions." . As we use WP:CONSENSUS, those going against consensus have a harder time here, which you will continue to do. I only didn't template you as another editor just did. Widefox; talk 20:32, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Um, you are the user pushing a WP:NEO hoax currently subject to an AfD where the general opinion is that it is a hoax, so you are the user going against consensus. Please refrain from heckling and disruptive behaviour on my talk page. There is no requirement to always use an edit summary here on the English Misplaced Pages. Tadeusz Nowak (talk) 20:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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