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== Argo (2012 film) ==

'']'' was nominated in good faith by ] and I've just started ]. However, I just noticed that the nominator has not contributed significantly to the article () and his major contribution to the topic consists of splitting out the accolades section into a .‎ I prefer to review articles by significant contributors and/or people who are familiar with the subject. I'm afraid that this review may require some work that the nominator may not be able to do. What are the current guidelines on how to proceed? ] (]) 22:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

: You can carry the review. In case of FAs, such type of nominations are failed. ] (]) 07:38, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
:Fail the review immediately. This is what I call a "drive-by nomination" created by editors who apparently want reward with little effort. I once undertook such a review and found the drive-by nominator argued with almost everything I suggested with "no, it's fine the way it is." ] (]) 16:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you both for your replies. I will fail the review immediately. ] (]) 00:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

== Redlinked GA reviews ==

If I edit a page that contains {{tlx|WikiProject Video Games}}, such as ], the "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" list at the bottom of the page has about a dozen redlinks. They are all GA review pages, for example ], ], ] etc. Why are these being transcluded to a page which is nothing to do with any of those GA noms? --] (]) 21:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)


== GA-DYK process improvement == == GA-DYK process improvement ==

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Good article nominations
Good article nominations
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This is the list of Frequently asked questions about nominating and reviewing Good articles. If you cannot find the answer to your question here, you might want to ask for assistance at the GA nominations discussion page.

Nomination process

The backlog is huge! Is there something we can do to restrict nominations?
There have been complaints about the perceived backlog in reviewing since the Good article status was created in 2006. Generally speaking, we don't want to restrict nominations along their path to GA. In the beginning, as many as 100 nominations were waiting for a reviewer to volunteer. By 2011, each day typically listed 330 nominated articles, of which 260 were waiting. By 2016, 580 were listed, 460 waiting; by 2021, 470 were listed, 300 were waiting. For comparison, today there are currently 695 nominations listed and 607 waiting for a reviewer.
While it may seem overwhelming, a large backlog isn't a bad thing. It shows that many nominators want to use GA as a tool to improve the encyclopedia. It also allows reviewers to choose from a wide selection of articles that interest them. From a nominator's perspective, the main concern is the expected wait time before receiving a review, not the number of articles on the nominations page.
Can't we force nominators to review articles?
Quid pro quo reviewing (editors must review an article before nominating, perhaps after a grace period) was regularly proposed and always rejected as likely leading to lower quality reviews and fewer nominations from excellent content creators who may not wish to review another person's work.
What order do nominations appear on the Good article nominations page?
One advantage of reviewing articles to help the Misplaced Pages community is the GAN appearance order: the more articles you have reviewed relative to articles you have nominated, the higher up in the queue your nomination will appear on the GAN page. Note that above this, order preference is given to nominators who are new to GA.
What if the nominator is a (perhaps dynamic) IP address?
Any editor with significant contributions to the article may nominate an article for GA status (while only registered users may review), so significant-contributor IP nominators are permitted. Non-significant contributors should follow the advice above for editors who have not significantly contributed to the article. Dynamically changing IP nominators may want to clarify to the reviewer that, despite their signature, they remain the same person.
Can I nominate an article I haven't significantly contributed to?
No. Nominations from editors who have not substantially contributed will be removed unless the nomination shows that the article's regular editors were consulted on its talk page alongside a note on the GAN template showing their commitment to the process, e.g., |note=Adopted following extensive improvement by another editor. In the past, many drive-by nominators did not know the article or its sources and did not respond to questions by the reviewer.

Review process

I want to review an article. Do I have to review the oldest unreviewed nomination first?
Thank you for deciding to review an article for GA. You may review any nominated article you are not involved in, regardless of the nomination's age or position in the queue.
As a reviewer, I want to help the nominator improve the article, but it already meets the criteria. What am I supposed to do now?
The purpose of a GA review is to determine whether the article meets the GA criteria. Article-improvement discussions are intended to prevent near-misses in nominated articles that almost meet the criteria. If the article already meets the criteria when you first review it, then explain exactly what you've checked in each of the main criteria (e.g., "I have verified there is no original research, copyright violations, plagiarism, unreliable sources, bias, edit wars, or untagged images.") and list it as a Good article. "Quick passes" are as legitimate as quick fails, although they are less common. Please do not make a list of nitpicky details or exceed the written requirements of the Good article criteria in an effort to make the review look rigorous. Instead, thank the nominator for presenting such a polished article, and encourage them to submit another.
Who can respond to the review?
The nominator is expected to respond to the reviewer's suggestions to improve the article, while everyone interested in the article is encouraged to participate in the review, not just the person who happened to nominate it. Nominators have no special privileges over other editors except that they can withdraw the nomination.
Should nominators respond to reviewers' concerns? And what should reviewers do if they don't?
The nominator has an interest in seeing the article become GA, so the nominator will likely want to respond to the reviewer to improve the article. In fact, all editors interested in the article are encouraged to respond to reviewers' concerns. However, nobody, including the nominator, is required to. If the reviewer identifies concerns directly related to the good article criteria and no one addresses the concerns, then no one should be surprised if the reviewer declines to list the article. If the article does not meet the Good article criteria after the reviewer has waited a reasonable amount of time for the nominator to make improvements, the reviewer is sure to fail the nomination. Future article editors may benefit from review comments on how to improve the article.
The nominator disagrees with the reviewer. Can another reviewer take over?
If your GAN experience is not going well or if you are disagreeing with the reviewer's decisions, then you may allow the review to fail, take the reviewer's suggestions into account, then renominate the article immediately (to get a different reviewer). If the reviewer has not yet failed the nomination, you may try asking them to ask for a second opinion. Other than these, another reviewer does not normally take over an active review. To prevent avoidable disputes, reviewers should either not make comments unrelated to the Good article criteria, or they should carefully label those suggestions as optional (e.g., "I know that citation formatting is not required by the Good article criteria, and I will not consider this when making my decision, but if you might send this to Misplaced Pages:Featured articles later, then that process requires consistent citation formatting").
Does an article have to be on hold for exactly seven days?
No. Whether to place the nomination on hold at all, and the length of any such hold, is for the reviewer to decide. Depending on the quality of the article and the responsiveness of the nominator, a hold may not be necessary. If the reviewer decides that it is, they may choose longer or shorter periods of hold time. The reviewer may even modify the {{GA nominee}} template on the article talk page to include a "time" parameter, for example, "time=fourteen days", and the {{GANotice}} template used to convey messages to the GA nominator to include a "days" parameter, for example "days=fourteen". Keep in mind that protracted reviews show up as exceptions on the GA nominations report page.
What should I do if a review page becomes inactive?
This can happen for a number of reasons. Review pages should only be started by reviewers who are willing to take an active interest in the article and are committed to completing their review of the article in a timely manner. Sometimes another editor (such as the nominator) starts the review page by mistake. A reviewer can fix this by placing their signature after "Reviewer:" towards the top of the review page, but if no reviewer is forthcoming, it may be best to delete the review page: requests for such deletions may be posted at the discussion page. If a new reviewer is truly needed, follow the instructions page under "If a review seems abandoned". Do not use this process to void a review you disagree with.
I failed the article, and the nominator just nominated it again without fixing the problems I identified!
That's okay. There is no time limit between nominations, and this is the recommended process if the nominator disagrees with your review. Let someone else review it this time. The new reviewer is sure to read your comments while independently deciding on their assessment. If your concerns were legitimate, then the new reviewer will doubtless agree with you and also decline to list the article as GA. If the article is passed and you do not believe it meets the good article criteria, you can initiate a reassessment.
How can GA be reliable when a single reviewer decides?
The quality of a Good article is only as reliable as the most recent review and articles may deteriorate if unattended. The GA process deals with both of these issues by allowing repeat reviews by any registered user at any time. The process aims to encourage article improvement and build consensus on quality through multiple reviews—even though a single reviewer makes the decision whether to list the article according to the GA criteria. Any editor may contribute to any review discussion and reassessment is available when the "one reviewer decides" model breaks down.
What if I have concerns about the quality of a review or need to resolve a dispute over the GA process?
You can bring those concerns to the GA nominations discussion page to get help from other editors. Remember, however, to notify all users about whom concerns have been raised or who are involved in any dispute that you have.


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GA-DYK process improvement

Currently, newly promoted GAs are eligible for DYK. There is currently a discussion at RFC DYK process improvement 2015. This is a solicitation for suggestions to streamline the DYK process in order that fewer errors appear on the main page. — Maile (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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 — Calvin999 18:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

You could inform Legoktm (talk · contribs) since it's normally updated by Legobot (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Gene GA nomination needs new reviewer

Hello. The current reviewer of the gene article (User:ヒストリ案) put themselves forwards as reviewer by accident (I think intending to leave a normal talk page comment). Is it possible to reset the process so that a new editor can put themselves forwards? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo) 12:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo), I feel your pain, especially since there isn't a process for resetting back, only for "failing" the review and re-nominating it, which truly isn't a problem (there is no system that keeps track of a nominator's failed reviews, but you would lose your place in line). The simplest solution is to convince User:ヒストリ案 to undertake the review after all. Although you haven't asked and therefore we don't know their commitment level, this person actually seems to me to be quite capable of carrying out the review. I would certainly consider asking them to take a look at the GA criteria (and perhaps someone else's GA review that you could suggest to help them get the idea) and then committing to give it their best shot. We need more GA reviewers. (I would also help them use Template:GAList2.) However, if that doesn't work out, you should follow the instructions to fail the review yourself (change the opening template on the Talk page to: {{FailedGA|~~~~~|topic=Biology and medicine|page=3}}) and then re-nominate it to GA4, and then settle in for the long wait. I can help you if needed. Prhartcom (talk) 18:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I went ahead and put it back in the queue, though if the user does in fact want to take over the review I can always rv myself. Wizardman 22:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
And I managed to reset it on the GAN page so that someone can start the GA4 review from there (it was still showing as under review). Prhartcom (talk) 22:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Category choice

Is it better to select a subtopic which is a poor fit to the contents of an article, or make one up which is a good fit? • • • Peter (Southwood) : 09:45, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

You need to choose one from the list, otherwise the bots will be confused. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. So we assume the users are less easily confused than the bots, and someone who is interested will probably find the nomination eventually. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

StatisticianBot down

The StatisticianBot that refreshes the GAN reports page hasn't run since Thursday, and the bot owner recommends using email to request repairs or restarts or the like. Since I don't use Misplaced Pages email myself, I thought maybe someone here could email a request to get the bot running again. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:54, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Note to the GA Cup runners (Dom497 and Figureskatingfan, you're the two I can remember offhand): you'll want the bot back in working order in time for the GA Cup start, since it generates the daily list of the oldest ten nominations and also tracks daily progress. I'll leave it to you to email the bot owner and pursue this until it's fixed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)