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| ::No offense, but are you serious? Do you expect a confession from the guy? You have the same exact lines and POV on obscure articles with one of them being pushed against Dragodol, his edit warring buddy that you also topic banned, in the Nijaz Duraković article and in the Jovan Divjak article the same exact line of nonsense that he was a "show general". Both IPs are used in Mostar and in all seriousness him going into one of the 50 million Bosnian cafe bars with internet to push this nonsense is not unlikely. Do you really think there's some unrelated guy in Mostar that is coincidentally pulling this identical crap? --] (]) 17:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ::No offense, but are you serious? Do you expect a confession from the guy? You have the same exact lines and POV on obscure articles with one of them being pushed against Dragodol, his edit warring buddy that you also topic banned, in the Nijaz Duraković article and in the Jovan Divjak article the same exact line of nonsense that he was a "show general". Both IPs are used in Mostar and in all seriousness him going into one of the 50 million Bosnian cafe bars with internet to push this nonsense is not unlikely. Do you really think there's some unrelated guy in Mostar that is coincidentally pulling this identical crap? --] (]) 17:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
| ::Also look at the IP contributions on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. He picks up where Wustenfuchs and AnulBanul left off on the Croatian Party of Rights of Bosnia and Herzegovina article and on the Croatian Democratic Union 1990 article where his Herr Ziffer (blocked) and Wustenfuchs accounts formerly edited and on the Croatian Party of Rights (Bosnia and Herzegovina) article where Wustenfuchs formerly edited. Another IP (blocked) that edited all those same articles in the same manner also created the Nijaz Duraković article on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. --] (]) 17:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ::Also look at the IP contributions on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. He picks up where Wustenfuchs and AnulBanul left off on the Croatian Party of Rights of Bosnia and Herzegovina article and on the Croatian Democratic Union 1990 article where his Herr Ziffer (blocked) and Wustenfuchs accounts formerly edited and on the Croatian Party of Rights (Bosnia and Herzegovina) article where Wustenfuchs formerly edited. Another IP (blocked) that edited all those same articles in the same manner also created the Nijaz Duraković article on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. --] (]) 17:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
| :::Those are my IPs. --] (]) 20:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Antiochian Greeks
Hello sir, well, Syria was under the rule of Byzantium for 600 years and most Syrians were Hellenized and followed the official state church (the roman , that is east roman). Genetically they are the same with other Christians and moslims in the region. and the majority of them consider themselves Syrians not Greeks. However, a small movement mainly outside Syria is trying to claim Greek ancestry. I fixed the page and sourced it explaining my edits here Talk:Antiochian_Greeks#Is_that_a_serious_article_.21. I provided around 13 reliable sources that all got reverted by a user with multiple IPs. I asked for a sock puppet investigation ]. I took it to ANI . and Im starting to look like an edit warrior.
Antiochian Greeks is an ethnic name, Real Greeks would never accept those Syrians as one of them and there is really no ethnic meaning to them as it is clear by the report of US Committee on Foreign Relations .
So I want the page to be removed into Antiochian Greek Christians. this is the official name of them, they are a religions sect not an ethnicity. Ofcourse 98% are Orthodox but there is 2% Catholic.
For example, the user added this sentence : and a growing number of Antiochians are using it as an ethnic designation due to the Levant's Hellenistic and Byzantine past. He added it before my source of the US Committee on Foreign Relations which clearly says that they are Not Ethnic Greeks !.
I would like a help on changing the Page title to reflect their religious reality not a false Ethnic reality based on the name and the language of the liturgy.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 04:10, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome to pursue this, but you'll need very good sourcing. Because of the mention of Greeks, it's possible that this dispute falls under WP:ARBMAC, which would allow admins to sanction people who appear to be edit warring for nationalistic reasons. Though the people on the other side may not be behaving well, you really need to have better arguments if you're going to convince regular Misplaced Pages editors that you have a case. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:16, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, Im not Christian of any dominion, hence I have no nationalistic feelings about being Greek or anything. As for them, I have this Genetic study proving they are the same as their surroundings and not closer to Greeks .. and then I have those scholarly works .--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 04:22, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Vietg12
You blocked a user for edit-warring; he started again as soon as the block wore off. User:Vietg12. He asked for a third opinion, and it was "stop adding that", and so I guess he decided to just edit war without even edit summary. WHYYYY. Ogress smash! 06:43, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Now blocked. Thanks for following up. EdJohnston (talk) 13:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Topic ban violation
Hi! I've left you a message at User talk:AnulBanul#Violation of your topic ban. Surtsicna (talk) 08:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oh... Well, I left a further explanation at Surtsicna's talk page. Note - Bosniac National Council has nothing to do with Bosnia and Herzegovina, it is a representative body of Bosniaks in Serbia. Entire article concerns only Serbia and Montenegro to some point. --AnulBanul (talk) 10:23, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- A party that promoted/promotes unification with Bosnia and Herzegovina has nothing to do with Bosnia and Herzegovina? The article you created yesterday mentions "Bosnia and Herzegovina" five times. The DYK hook you nominated yesterday mentions "unification with the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina". Yet here you state that the article has nothing to do with Bosnia and Herzegovina. How dumb do you consider us? Surtsicna (talk) 11:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's in a grey area but I would allow it. See my comment at User talk:AnulBanul#Violation of your topic ban. EdJohnston (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- A party that promoted/promotes unification with Bosnia and Herzegovina has nothing to do with Bosnia and Herzegovina? The article you created yesterday mentions "Bosnia and Herzegovina" five times. The DYK hook you nominated yesterday mentions "unification with the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina". Yet here you state that the article has nothing to do with Bosnia and Herzegovina. How dumb do you consider us? Surtsicna (talk) 11:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Agostino.prastaro seems to be using IPs still
81.168.78.73 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has put back, for a second time, the Prastaro rant on Talk:Poincaré conjecture. I assume it's him, the second time is after the block. I'm not sure what the best way to proceed is, I assume you'll do the right thing. If I should proceed through RPP,ANI,SPI,etc., let me know here. Thanks. Choor monster (talk) 11:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- The IP is now blocked 1 month. WP:BAN provides that block evading edits may be reverted. If he only evades using IPs then opening an SPI is probably not worthwhile. EdJohnston (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Well.....
- Qara xan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Hey Ed! Sorry for bothering you (again), but could you take a look on what Qara xan has written by clicking on the link? That's taking the word "personal attack" to a whole new level. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- I asked User:Qara xan to withdraw his post. EdJohnston (talk) 15:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear replied with many Personal Attacks to my polite message. He used f... word 8 times. He also wrote to his ally that Though, I was upset that I was only able to use "fucking" eight times in my response. It shows that he is proud of what he did. So in this case do i have to be blocked? Is that fair? --Qara Khan 15:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- My offer isn't negotiable. You need to withdraw the threat of violence: 'I will find you in real life and you will pay for it.' EdJohnston (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- You are on Kansas Bear's side. I did't threat. I will do it. He will pay for what he wrote to me . --Qara Khan 16:06, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Now blocked. Any followup should occur at User talk:Qara xan. EdJohnston (talk) 16:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- You are on Kansas Bear's side. I did't threat. I will do it. He will pay for what he wrote to me . --Qara Khan 16:06, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- My offer isn't negotiable. You need to withdraw the threat of violence: 'I will find you in real life and you will pay for it.' EdJohnston (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear replied with many Personal Attacks to my polite message. He used f... word 8 times. He also wrote to his ally that Though, I was upset that I was only able to use "fucking" eight times in my response. It shows that he is proud of what he did. So in this case do i have to be blocked? Is that fair? --Qara Khan 15:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Mull
Thanks for moving Isle of Mull to Mull. Could you please also move Talk:Isle of Mull to Talk:Mull? Cheers! --Deskford (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Done. EdJohnston (talk) 22:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Deskford (talk) 22:59, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Unblock request on hold
Hi, Ed. I have placed on hold a block request at User talk:81.168.78.73. You blocked the IP address for evading a block on Agostino.prastaro because of the IP editor restoring a removed edit by Agostino.prastaro at Talk:Poincaré conjecture. I agree that the edits in question looked exactly like block-evasion by Agostino.prastaro, and the block was reasonable. However, I suggest that the block should now be lifted. The IP editor denies being Agostino.prastaro, and claims to have restored the comment because of a belief that it deserved discussion. I have checked the editing history of the account and the IP address, and apart from the reverts at Talk:Poincaré conjecture I can see absolutely no similarity whatever between the two. The areas where they have edited are totally different, the styles of commenting are different. (Indeed, one of Agostino.prastaro's hallmarks is bolding headings in talk page comments, and the IP editor even removed bolding from the heading he or she restored.) It therefore looks to me as though the IP editors denial of being Agostino.prastaro is likely to be true. Even if the IP editor is Agostino.prastaro, he or she has offered a promise not to edit Talk:Poincaré conjecture, which is the only place there has been any overlap. If the block is lifted and the IP address starts editing related to Agostino.prastaro, then the answer will be simple: an immediate block for a much longer period, so nothing will have been lost. Any opinion? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: As an editor who has followed AP closely, I'll state that the IP's English in his unblock request is clearly much more fluent than AP's, and I'm now convinced it's not AP. Note the IP's first unblock request where he does not show understanding of TPO, FORUM, NOTHERE. Choor monster (talk) 11:41, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Now unblocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 13:51, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
User:Getoverpops
Unless I'm totally missing something, the above user is resuming his edit warring at two different articles. Same issues, same sources, same arguments, same refusal to follow BRD. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- You are missing something. You reverted edits without justification and you haven't answered my questions on the talk pages. If you notice on the SS page I have made almost no edits and have been working with SD to discuss all changes and proposing changes. Rather than accusing me of entering into an edit war I would ask that you discuss the edits I've made on the relevant talk pages. Getoverpops (talk) 14:26, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
AnulBanul (Wustenfuchs) topic ban evasion
- 185.38.146.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (Mostar IP)
- 93.180.126.249 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (Sarajevo IP)
He's at it again. This time violating his topic ban via IPs 185.38.146.201 (talk · contribs) and 93.180.126.249 (talk · contribs). See: , , And: , , Also: --Potočnik (talk) 15:04, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that this is AnulBanul. These IPs don't have very many edits, so they are not yet a major hazard even if we assume the edits are bad. If you see nationalist warring on some articles, consider recommending some of the articles for me to semiprotect. Still, I take note that the Sarajevo IP, 93.180.*, is from the same /16 range as the one we think Wüstenfuchs used, judging from WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Wüstenfuchs. But perhaps all Sarajevo IPs hosted by Telemach are from this range. I'll notify User:AnulBanul that he was mentioned here. EdJohnston (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- No offense, but are you serious? Do you expect a confession from the guy? You have the same exact lines and POV on obscure articles with one of them being pushed against Dragodol, his edit warring buddy that you also topic banned, in the Nijaz Duraković article and in the Jovan Divjak article the same exact line of nonsense that he was a "show general". Both IPs are used in Mostar and in all seriousness him going into one of the 50 million Bosnian cafe bars with internet to push this nonsense is not unlikely. Do you really think there's some unrelated guy in Mostar that is coincidentally pulling this identical crap? --Potočnik (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Also look at the 93.180.126.249 IP contributions on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. He picks up where Wustenfuchs and AnulBanul left off on the Croatian Party of Rights of Bosnia and Herzegovina article and on the Croatian Democratic Union 1990 article where his Herr Ziffer (blocked) and Wustenfuchs accounts formerly edited and on the Croatian Party of Rights (Bosnia and Herzegovina) article where Wustenfuchs formerly edited. Another IP (blocked) that edited all those same articles in the same manner also created the Nijaz Duraković article on the Croatian Misplaced Pages. --Potočnik (talk) 17:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Those are my IPs. --AnulBanul (talk) 20:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)