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The subject of this article has been directly editing the article; please stop doing that per the ] guideline. I have tagged the article; the tag can be removed by an independent editor who has reviewed the article for NPOV and sourcing. If you do that review and remove the tag, please leave a note here. Thanks. ] (]) 16:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC) The subject of this article has been directly editing the article; please stop doing that per the ] guideline. I have tagged the article; the tag can be removed by an independent editor who has reviewed the article for NPOV and sourcing. If you do that review and remove the tag, please leave a note here. Thanks. ] (]) 16:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
::Oh, do please try not to be so silly. See the note above from many years ago 'Of course I edit this entry'(April 2008, I think it dates from) . I have done it quite openly under my own name, and have limited myself to correcting factual errors made by others, which I am in a position to put right. On this occasion, I have been trying to insert a photograph of myself. The photographer has given me his written position. I had taken it through the entire wikimedia commons procedure following all the required stpes. And an officious perosn then removed it without explaining why, and needlessly *deleted* it so that I have to trudge through the whole weary procedure again. I am seeking HELP from wikipedia editors in reinstating t, and get nno help, just these futile heavy-handed bureaucratic bureaucratic interventions. Petr Hitchens logged in as Clockback ] (]) 20:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC) ::Oh, do please try not to be so silly. See the note above from many years ago 'Of course I edit this entry'(April 2008, I think it dates from) . I have done it quite openly under my own name, and have limited myself to correcting factual errors made by others, which I am in a position to put right. On this occasion, I have been trying to insert a photograph of myself. The photographer has given me his written position. I had taken it through the entire wikimedia commons procedure following all the required stpes. And an officious perosn then removed it without explaining why, and needlessly *deleted* it so that I have to trudge through the whole weary procedure again. I am seeking HELP from wikipedia editors in reinstating t, and get nno help, just these futile heavy-handed bureaucratic bureaucratic interventions. Petr Hitchens logged in as Clockback ] (]) 20:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

:::You may continue to make appropriate edits directly to the article, ], which the ] guideline definitely allows, but discourages. The COI tag on the article is inappropriate and I will remove it forthwith; as I see no evidence here from anyone of a currently unresolved problem. Warm wishes.--]<sup>(]•])</sup> 17:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


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Badly need help reinstating legitimate picture

A few weeks ago I went to great lengths to validate a new picture of me, via wikimedia commons. I obtained the personal permission of the photographer to post the picture here. I posted it here. Then some officious person removed it without explanation or any attempt to communicate his reasons to me. Now I have lost all the notes through which I validated it, and have no idea how to reinstate it or what to do. Is there anyone there who can help me? If so, I can e-mail them the picture, and provide them with exact details as to its origin, date and place it was taken etc, and send them a copy of the photographer's e-mail giving me permission to use it. Peter Hitchens signed in as ClockbackClockback (talk) 08:46, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean the one you added here- SidneySussex.jpg? I don't know about images, but according to this, it was deleted by Wiki commons user Didym- their Wikimedia profile is here. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:39, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
I mean https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:SidneySussex.jpg , its full title, which clearly shows that I had put it through the proper wikimedia process. The user involved, if you visit his page, says he has left wikipedia. he offers no explanation. He also *deleted* the file, for no reason I can see, forcing me to go back through the wikimedia procedure, which I apparently got wrong though nobody has told me how and I have no way of knowing how , as I followed every step to the letter. What I am looking for is someone who can help me get this legitimate picture legitimately restored, proof against trh such nuisance bureaucrats, who seem to remove things for their own satisfaction. Clockback (talk) 13:15, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of interest editing

The subject of this article has been directly editing the article; please stop doing that per the WP:COI guideline. I have tagged the article; the tag can be removed by an independent editor who has reviewed the article for NPOV and sourcing. If you do that review and remove the tag, please leave a note here. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, do please try not to be so silly. See the note above from many years ago 'Of course I edit this entry'(April 2008, I think it dates from) . I have done it quite openly under my own name, and have limited myself to correcting factual errors made by others, which I am in a position to put right. On this occasion, I have been trying to insert a photograph of myself. The photographer has given me his written position. I had taken it through the entire wikimedia commons procedure following all the required stpes. And an officious perosn then removed it without explaining why, and needlessly *deleted* it so that I have to trudge through the whole weary procedure again. I am seeking HELP from wikipedia editors in reinstating t, and get nno help, just these futile heavy-handed bureaucratic bureaucratic interventions. Petr Hitchens logged in as Clockback Clockback (talk) 20:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
You may continue to make appropriate edits directly to the article, Clockback, which the WP:COI guideline definitely allows, but discourages. The COI tag on the article is inappropriate and I will remove it forthwith; as I see no evidence here from anyone of a currently unresolved problem. Warm wishes.--Elvey 17:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Photo

Can't we get a better image than this? The camera angle makes him look a bit too like Aloysius Parker. The curtains behind makes it worse because it looks like he has even has strings. Also it needs cropping.--Aspro (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

No. I look like Aloysius Parker from any angle, anyway. The effort involved in getting pictures past the pointlessly officious, nitpicking bureaucrats who monitor the site could not possibly be justified by such minor concerns.Most photographs of me are copyrighted by professional photographers and could not be used without charge. It's a perfectly good picture and far better than the one it replaced, which was here for a decade without a syllable of protest from Aspro or anyone else, even though it also had multiple copyright problems. Getting this picture uploaded, and many thanks to the photographer, Nigel Luckhurst, and to the heroic efforts of Mr Philbrick, has involved many long and difficult hours. I strongly urge leaving it as it is. Peter Hitchens logged in as Clockback Clockback (talk) 08:23, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Think it was my Grandfather that fist pointed out, that when I found things difficult it was because I was going about it the wrong way. Uploading photos to WP is easy when you go about it the right way. If Clockback resides in London I could even pop over on my bus-pass and take a few dozen shots on my camera, which he can select from (thinking here: a backdrop of his Remington typewriter to one side and heavenly loaded book shelves behind) (from a public relations point of view that would come across as a portrait of a serious critic). I don't have to go through the OTRS business because all I have to do is upload them on a compatible CC licence. The photo can be cropped and uploaded on the same evening. No long and difficult hours involved – no copyright issues either – no heroics - no frustration.--Aspro (talk) 22:37, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Actually, Mr Aspro is once again mistaken. My experience (and thanks to my chosen trade I have had my picture taken many times under many conditions by many very skilled and experienced photographers, most of whom agree with what I say here) has been that any *posed* picture of me will be terrible. This is a problem faced by unphotogenic people, such as I am, and we could spend hours here discussing the explanation for it. I might just say that, on the one occasion when I met the late Princess Diana (who was both photogenic and telegenic), I did not recognise her even though she was six feet away, I knew she was there and I was looking for her. She did not look at all like her pictures. But unlike me, she looked much *better* in pictures than she did in reality. There are various tricks to lessen the problem, but that is all they do. The virtue of the chosen picture is that I was not aware that it was being taken, and it is therefore a far better likeness than any conscious portrait. That's why I chose it. And it is all very well chatting merrily about 'uploading on a compatible CC licence', but to most normal human beings such an action is as obscure, worrying and unknown as nuclear physics in a foreign language. What is a CC licence? How do I know if it is compatible? How do I upload? What, indeed is uploading? I've no idea of the answers to any of these questions, and nor have most people. Nor do I know where to find out (though I wasted some time in trying very hard to do so).They've never heard of it and they don't know how or where to do it. There are two kinds of technologically knowledgeable people. the sort who understand that most of the world hasn't a clue what they are talking about, and the other sort. By the way, I don't live in London and abandoned my last typewriter in late 1980s, when I first began to use computers. Very useful they are too, but learning to use them is not the same as learning to understand them. Indeed, I have now learned at least eight separate and different systems. Peter Hitchens logged in as Clockback Clockback (talk) 16:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
My thanks to Maproom for cropping the image properly. Shame we did have one from a very skilled and experienced portrait photographer who is not content with just taking a quick paparazzi like snap.--Aspro (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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