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London Road Comment

how you doing. Went to see London Road last night at IFT, highly recommended, though where the gas works are at the end of London Road I do not know - ( one major fault easy "class" statements through gas works at the end of the road!!) - The tensions were well displayed and explored through the script and characters. Edmund Patrick – confer 05:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll have to catch this at some point. I knew some of the people who worked on the case, one of whom was in no doubt that Wright did a whole lot more than for which he was convicted... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Although based on hearsay, assumptions and gut there are quite a few people who have those fears, not for punishment more for "closure" for the families involved. By the way, in the film, ignore the football scarf worn by the fervent supporter of the local team! Edmund Patrick – confer 05:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Boat Race

Hello Rambling Man, I just now noticed that the series of every Boat Race article up to GA is done, and wanted to leave a note to tell you I am extremely impressed by your efforts. This must have been a real labour of love and it is to your massive credit that you have completed it. Well done indeed, sir. I hope that you are well and that you have a great rest of the weekend. Cheers, —  Cliftonian (talk)  16:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. Yes, it was really something I gave myself a target of a year to achieve and just ended two short, but we got there a day or so late! I had a lot of assistance, particularly in the sourcing and the patience of several reviewers, some of whom had no interest or knowledge of the topic, so it felt great to get there in the end! Thanks again for your note, much appreciated! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the removal of Persondata templates

Hi there Rambling Man. I've noticed you removing persondata templates, (e.g. Millicent Sowerby), which I initially reverted, then accepted on your comment that the data is now at Wikidata. However, this doesn't seem to be the case for rather newly created articles: e.g. Millicent Sowerby wikidata currently does not have birthplace, birth year, or death year that was in Persondata. I realize it is not terribly difficult to manually re-enter these data on Wikidata, but it can be a hassle when there are several affected articles (you recently stripped Thomas Crane (1843–1903) that similarly lacks equivalent Persondata on Wikidata). Do you know if it is possible to automatically port the persondata to Wikidata without having to re-enter it by hand? Are there bots that automatically transfer it after a given time? Is there real harm in leaving Persondata? I'm not getting easy answers from the RfC discussion that nixed Persondata, and I know nothing about querying or functionally using Wikidata or Persondata (although I make additions to both), but it seems like prematurely removing templates represents a loss of data rather than a redundancy. Please tell me if I'm wrong, or if you know of an efficient way to merge data, but you might also want to double check Wikidata before removing future templates. Cheers, --Animalparty-- (talk) 09:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

There's no reason why someone (e.g. a bot) couldn't go through article history and find the most recent PERSONDATA template and copy the data across. As that RFC describes, there are probably more issues with PERSONDATA than not, so its use is somewhat pointless in any case. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit war here

I noticed that you seem to be in an edit war with Pyrope and very non-WP:CIVIL edit summaries. WP:3RR does apply on talk pages. I just want to remind you of WP:CIVIL and, because you seem to be a very experienced editor, see if I was missing something before reporting this to WP:AN3. KSFT  21:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

KSFT Sorry, did you read his repeated additions (that I have the full right to remove) to my talk page? Report it wherever you like. It's not my fault he used the phrase "you who is fucking up" and reverted my own talk page clearance? Why haven't you warned him for abusing my talk page and making personal attacks? I should be taking you to ANI for this gross misuse of Misplaced Pages. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

KSFT, don't take offence on the behalf of others as it makes you look rather silly. Here's an idea; why don't you warn Pyrope about his behaviour which goes far and beyond than that of TRM. Cassianto 22:18, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

LOL

 — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ≼  22:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: DYK

Believe it or not, I appreciate your critical review of the process and hooks on the DYK talk page, but I think you would be more effective if you didn't have to belittle each editor in your response to their argument. I realize that on the one hand, your replies could be categorized as a form of debate, but on the other hand, you have a tendency to setup straw men and misrepresent the user on the other side. There's really no need for you to do this. Could you try to make your point without insulting other editors? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 21:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

...and that coming from you Viriditas! -- Cassianto 21:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Tu quoque? Viriditas (talk) 22:30, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

For pointing out a double standard? But then you always were a bit stupid wasn't you. Cassianto 23:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Viriditas, your advice is sage-like (it really reminded me of Mr Miyagi, "wax on, wax off" etc.) and has invoked a kind of shamen-esque revelation in me (as Mr. C once said "naughty, naughty, very naughty ... wicked"). I will no longer belittle editors, unless they deserve it (of course), but I will tell them if they're being twats and wasting my time and energy. I really appreciate you, with such a pedigree in behavioural competency around here, coming by to tell me how to conduct myself. You're a role model to the stars! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Nice company, - I also heard "better conduct themselves", - only nobody explained why and how, - so I quoted Kafka (... prosecuted by a remote, inaccessible authority, with the nature of his crime revealed to neither him nor the reader), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but great that Old Rambler sees it necessary to change. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Fuck me, what a coincidence, I woke up just yesterday to discover that I'd transmogrified into a poxy locust. To say I was disappointed was an understatement. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

If only you don't wake up changed to a different view on red links in navboxes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, that's too bizarre for me. Several of us have given testimony that red links have helped, those who oppose have nothing substantive at all (other than "we don't like it!!") What a waste of time. Now then, where's my nearest field of burgeoning crops.... Nom nom nom.... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

"While in London, Buddha purchased a copy of The Big Issue from a street vendor with a £10 note, when Buddha asked for his change the vendor looked with a smile and said, "Ah, change must come from within..." PoxyLocust123 (talk) 22:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

the one who initiated the want for change changed to discouraged, - look for the name on A Boy was Born, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

There'll be no change here, there's nowt so queer as folk. Do one, all of you. Get thee to a nunnery, and write some encyclopaedic content, particularly you itchy colonials... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Shame on you. Some of my best friends are nuns! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2015 (UTC)