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User:Bashirmsaad reported by User:Joseph2302 (Result: Blocked 24 hours)

Page

Faruk Malami Yabo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Bashirmsaad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 21:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 22:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 21:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 22:09, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Achievements & Awards */"
   3. 22:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. Consecutive edits made from 18:39, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 18:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 18:39, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 18:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
4. 14:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Achievements and awards */"
5. Consecutive edits made from 12:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 14:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 12:36, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   3. 12:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   4. 13:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Business and Interest */"
   5. 13:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   6. 13:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   7. 13:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   8. 13:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   9. 13:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   10. 13:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   11. 13:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   12. 13:47, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   13. 13:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   14. 14:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Business and Interest */"
   15. 14:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "General note: Not adhering to neutral point of view on Faruk Malami Yabo. (TW)"
2. 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* June 2015 */ reply"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

@Pishcal: removed swathes of promotional, resume-style text from this article, but this user is continuing to readd it. I've warned them about WP:NPOV and Misplaced Pages is not for resumes, but they continued to revert despite a 3RR warning. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Note that the editor in question has not attempted to resolve the dispute in any form and has failed to communicate with anyone despite notices / warnings. Pishcal — ♣ 02:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The warnings included subsequent text about why it was inappropriate, and I also gave them notice of 3RR- if they'd bothered to read it, then I wouldn't have reported them. Also, these additions are so ridiculously promotional that any decent editor can see why they're wrong- edit warring to spam a page is never acceptable. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:43, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I think Pishcal (t c) meant that the editor you reported, Bashirmsaad, has failed to communicate. —Darkwind (talk) 07:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 24 hours —Darkwind (talk) 08:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Joseph2302, I was referring to the user reported, not to you. Sorry about the confusion, I suppose "the editor in question" was a bit ambiguous. Pishcal — ♣ 12:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Factchecker atyourservice reported by User:Nomoskedasticity (Result: Page protected)

Page

When contact changes minds (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Factchecker atyourservice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 11:27, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Popular press */ Restore necessary attribution, remove implication that piece was published on behalf of the mag, undo improper excessive emphasis of low quality sourcing"
2. 00:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667275377 by David Eppstein (talk) You removed all of the explanatory WSJ material as well, and you have no basis for giving the crappier source more weight"
3. 23:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Popular press */ Trim Singal material; user knows there is neither a policy justification nor even a false consensus to skew the weight in this way"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 05:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "/* WSJ editorial is clearly entitled to far more weight than a single recent college grad with no experience and weak credentials */"

Comments:

Straight off a block for edit warring at this very article , Factchecker is right back at it, with three reverts in ~12 hours. It's not a 3RR violation -- but it is edit-warring per WP:EW, which says quite clearly that a violation can consist of fewer than 3 reverts. Again, it's the very same article where Factchecker's edit-warring led to a week-long block. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:40, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I reverted to a weight-neutral version while a discussion, which Nomoskedasticity has never bothered with, continues. Nomo, meanwhile, prefers drive-by reverts with no discussion nor even a stated justification. This is a simple attempt to avoid the losing end of a content dispute by removing another editor from it. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 11:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Nomo's latest participation at talk page (today): . Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Your entire participation over the entire dispute has been to say, on precisely two occasions and without any elaboration whatsoever, that you agree with David. That's what I was referring to as not participating. That also includes your pithy but eminently unhelpful edit summaries, including "yep, I saw ". Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 12:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected for 72 hours. Yes, this is still edit warring. Any purported motives for filing this report aside, I am not going to privilege one side in this content dispute by selectively blocking the editor who's done the most reverts, and I am also not going to block all of you. —Darkwind (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:2.126.189.105 reported by User:SpyMagician (Result: 31 hours)

Page: Personal shopping assistant (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2.126.189.105 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Comments: Obvious abuse of system. Also check user’s talk page where they are constantly blanking warnings and such and replacing content with “fuck off”.

(Non-administrator comment) Blocked for 31 hours by Crazycomputers. TheTMOBGaming2 (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Robsinden reported by User:RexxS (Result: Page protected)

Page

Misplaced Pages:Red link (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Robsinden (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: this is the edit that removed the text on 29 April 2015

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Robsinden's first revert to re-add the text 14:24, 16 June 2015
2. Robsinden's second revert to re-add the text 09:12, 17 June 2015
3. Robsinden's third revert to re-add the text 09:16, 17 June 2015
4. Robsinden's fourth revert to re-add the text 14:00, 17 June 2015

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Robsinden warned by Softlavender after Robsinden's third revert

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (Changes needed et seq)

Comments:

Within the space of 24 hours User:Robsinden has four times restored text that was originally deleted by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) and subsequently deleted by Montanabw (x2) and Softlavender. The page was then protected in the wrong version by Ritchie333 to stop the edit-war. Robsinden has edit-warred after a warning and against three other editors to force his preferred version into the page. No matter the rights and wrongs of the edit (currently debated at the Talk page), edit-warring is not the means by which editors should be conducting their disputes. This a clear breach of a bright line after a warning and any editor who shows such contempt for our normal behavioural expectations should be sanctioned to provide the solution. That would allow full protection to be lifted from an important guideline page and allow normal editing to resume. --RexxS (talk) 18:24, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• It's clearly not the wrong version. Text was removed without discussion, and in fact didn't make any sense, because there is a subsequent clause referring to navboxes thereafter. It's not just my preferred version, it's the version that has been stable for 5 years. Okay, I may have overstepped the reverting, but was feeling very frustrated yesterday by users who I felt were gaming the system for their own POV and then accusing me of writing guidelines to fit my view, when all I was trying to do was to keep the guideline at the status quo. Anyway, there is now a discussion in place, so hopefully we can all move on constructively. --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Page protected —Darkwind (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:179.234.74.94 reported by User:Callmemirela (Result: Both blocked 24 hours)

Page

Portugal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

179.234.74.94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 20:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. 20:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. Consecutive edits made from 21:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC) to 21:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 21:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 21:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
4. 21:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC) ""
5. 21:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 21:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Portugal. (TW)"
2. 21:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Final warning notice on Portugal. (TW)"
3. 21:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Only warning: Vandalism on Portugal. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

The user has been edit warring disruptively by adding unsourced changes to the article and has even mounted to sockpuppetry with Moonnastic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Callmemirela (Talk) ♑ 21:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Both editors blocked – for a period of 24 hours. @Callmemirela: The edits you reverted did not fall into any of the exceptions to the three-revert rule, and you reverted on this article six times in just over 25 hours. —Darkwind (talk) 21:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I have unblocked Callmemirela for reasons stated on their talk page. Ritchie333 07:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Markus W. Karner reported by User:Ogress (Result: Blocked)

Page

Rohingya people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Markus W. Karner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 00:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "I checked the sources (only those which are online). Derek Tonkin, Jacques Leider are not Burmese!"
2. 14:21, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667352466 by 58.106.252.62 (talk) please stop this madness over the economist sensationalist article. I work there and I can tell you the allegations are nonsense"
3. 14:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667333507 by 58.106.252.62 (talk)"
4. 09:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667279882 by 58.106.230.133 (talk) this sensationalist view is not found in any other page. Please don't push the views to extreme"
5. 15:07, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "revert promotion of one source above others"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Markus_W._Karner&diff=prev&oldid=667353820 Warned by another user

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

• User was warned this morning and has continued to edit war. Ogress _smash! 00:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Another user, User:User:Za-ari-masen registered an account at that page and their edits from IP+new account would also count as a 3RR/edit war issue, but I don't know how to report that kind of thing! Ogress _smash! 00:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• I have to add that I haven't added one single sentence to that article. This article has received one-sided edits from both sides and I am just reverting. The last revert has no association with previous reverts. I have worked there and understand that such unbalanced narratives inflame the problem. I am prepared to discuss on talk-page but these users will refuse to discuss and just push whatever they want with new accounts. Markus W. Karner (talk) 01:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Markus W. Karner removes well sourced content using very strange excuses (e.g. that he is in Myanmar and hence somehow has more authority or grasp of facts on the ground than the well regarded authors that are cited. Also, his claim that he is "prepared to discuss on talk-page but these users will refuse to discuss" is a blatant lie. A quick check of his talk page shows that he repeatedly ignored requests to discuss or specifically explain the reasons for his bulk removal of content. I believe he should be blocked to prevent his continual mass content removal which he defends in a very personal, nonsensical manner.58.106.254.122 (talk) 07:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Markus W. Karner, even a good-faith edit war is an edit war. Both of you are edit warring, which is why I brought this case here. The way to fix (alleged) vandalism isn't to edit war. You were warned once already 12 hours before I brought this case and you ignored it and kept on keepin' on instead of looking for another solution, like say seeking Admin assistance in the shape of IP edit protection by showing it is in fact vandalism. Ogress _smash! 08:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Blocked – 24 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• I suspect this user is operating under an IP address (203.81.69.86) and continuing his same vandalism. Where can we investigate this and have this IP address blocked indefinitely if proven.--58.106.254.122 (talk) 05:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment) - 58, go ahead and open up a sockpuppet investigation, but you always need good reason to suspect such. TheTMOBGaming2 (talk) 16:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Kwamikagami reported by User:Zack90 (Result: No action on Kwami, concerns about Zack90)

Page: Luri language (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Kwamikagami (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) --Zack90 (talk) 01:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Zack90 edit-warred over several related articles, including this one, a few weeks ago. He also did not notify me of this report. (Actually, I warned him, twice, and he responded by reporting me here, indicating a rather egregious lack of good faith.) The edit he's pushing is unsourced and contradicts our other articles and the sources we do have, and what little discussion there was went against him.

Zack90 is currently also edit-warring at Northern Luri language, Southern Luri language, Eastern Baluchi language, Southern Baluchi language, and Western Baluchi language. (He might actually have a case for creating N & S Luri if he would engage in discussion and provide RSs.) — kwami (talk) 01:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree with kwami on the potential WP:BOOMERANG issue here. Zack90 is certainly warring and is just continuing to do so without engaging in Talk page discussions to constructively explain their reasoning and attempt to resolve disputes. As noted by EdJohnston, Zack is even warring with an anti-vandal bot. Even when filing a report here, no explanation was given (and kwami was not notified). Please note that some of the same and similar articles were the topic of a recent dispute here on the noticeboard regarding warring by Mjbmr reported by Kwami (see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive283#User:Mjbmr reported by User:Kwamikagami (Result: No violation)) that was closed as "No violation" despite a WP:3RR violation by Mjbmr, who subsequently said they were retiring, but who has now reappeared as an ally with Zack for the war. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, similar edits and behavior. (Sorry, I may have mixed up the two in my comments above.) When looking for sources to discuss Mjbmr's edits, I discovered that a couple of them might be worthwhile (with some extra work required), but they quit in disgust when they had to actually discuss and justify their edits. Now they're back, but their only editing strategy still appears to be to edit-war. — kwami (talk) 04:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I think Kwamikagami's page blanking at 3 Baluchi language articles is not constructive, especially when he has not explained his edits and there are move discussions in progress in all the 3 pages. Khestwol (talk) 09:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It may be worth mentioning that this "blanking" of "articles" was not a mere out-of-the-blue blanking of longstanding content. Rather, in all three cases, it was a revert of a very recent conversion of a redirect into an article (in the midst of other related disputes). Ordinarily, the burden of justification for a major undiscussed content change (such as creating a new article where there was previously only a redirect) rests on the person who wants to make that change, more than on the person who wants to revert it. Zack90 and Mjbmr don't even seem to be bothering with edit summaries, much less explaining their perspective on Talk pages. —BarrelProof (talk) 09:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Zack90 hasn't edited since 01:03 on 18 June. Let's hope he will choose to respond here. Perhaps he can say if he has any connection to User:Mjbmr who has amazingly similar interests in a small set of language articles. I'll notify User:Mjbmr that he was mentioned here. EdJohnston (talk) 14:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I see that User:Mjbmr provided a (somewhat ambiguous) reply at User talk:Mjbmr. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

This page states that Mjbmr has been blocked indefinitely in the Persian Misplaced Pages. Per this Google translation it seems likely to be the case. He had an indefinite block on meta.wikipedia.org which lasted for three years and was only lifted in 2014. The meta block was for using socks to impersonate someone else. EdJohnston (talk) 18:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It seems interesting that during the discussion of the request for CentralNotice adminship submitted by Mjbmr, Zack90 was the only editor that voiced support for the request, and it was one of only four Wikimedia edits ever made by that user. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• Result: No action against Kwamikagami. There is a possibility that User:Zack90 is a sock of User:Mjbmr. Though I haven't submitted an SPI, someone else could. At the moment there doesn't seem to be enough behavioral evidence for a block, though that could change if either party makes more edits. User:Mjbmr has previously been blocked for socking on the Persian Misplaced Pages (see the above links). EdJohnston (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Since this is closed, I restored the original versions of the Luri and Balochi articles, only for them to be reverted by Zack90. He's even changing the name in the Balochi article to conflict with the title. — kwami (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Z07x10 reported by User:Mztourist (Result: 72 hours)

Page: Talk:Eurofighter Typhoon (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Z07x10 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: This is the article talk page, User:Z07x10 is counter-arguing my reasoning for my RFC vote, turning it into an unreadable mess

Comments:
This is the article talk page, User:Z07x10 is counter-arguing my reasoning for my RFC vote, turning it into an unreadable mess Mztourist (talk) 11:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It was an unreasonable mess from the start. I simply broke your concerns up into sections to allow them to be answered more clearly. It is a talk page not an article, hence I was trying to discuss your concerns. The first of those was the initial edit, which was not a reversion, you then reverted this twice, so I reverted it back twice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Eurofighter_Typhoon&diff=667475535&oldid=667473692

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Eurofighter_Typhoon&diff=667475535&oldid=667473938

I have now moved the responses into the threaded discussion section.

It should be noted that User:Mztourist lodged a complaint of OR against my article edit, which a 3rd party moderated and judged it to be a flawed complaint.https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#A_Summary.2C_and_Thoughts_to_Go_Forward

Mztourist then went WP:FISHING to justify his WP:I just don't like it. He then moved to source reliability, but the sources are used thousands on times in Misplaced Pages already. So he quickly moved back to WP:I just don't like it and began an RFC in the form of a vote, having rejected an opportunity for formal mediating that would actually look at policy.https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Eurofighter_Typhoon_2

I'm currently having an article edit blocked by cliche mentality with no sound basis in policy. The behaviour displayed has been a disgrace to Misplaced Pages and discourages editors from participating.Z07x10 (talk) 11:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

A few comments from an involved editor.

First, the reported editor, User:Z07x10, appears to have violated talk page guidelines by refactoring the comments of the reporting editor, User:Mztourist.

Second, the reported editor has altered the wording of an RFC to make it non-neutral by this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AEurofighter_Typhoon&type=revision&diff=667459592&oldid=667458243

Third, the reported editor is misrepresenting what I said about synthesis. I said that I thought that the paragraph in question was not synthesis, because it was sourced. The claim that I "judged it to be a flawed complaint" is wrong.

Fourth, the reported editor has been pushing for eighteen months to add a particular paragraph to Eurofighter Typhoon, and is continuing to forum shop to try to find ways to lock in a particular addition. There is and has been consensus against the addition. Different editors have different reasons for opposing it.

Robert McClenon (talk) 12:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

How on God's green Earth does asking for a policy-based reason make it non-neutral? I was merely trying to prevent a case of WP:I just don't like it.

By changing the wording of the survey question from one asking whether to include to one asking whether to exclude, you rendered the existing !votes incorrect and meaningless. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

There were no existing votes when I made the change.Z07x10 (talk) 09:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Third, the reported editor is misrepresenting what I said about synthesis. I said that I thought that the paragraph in question was not synthesis, because it was sourced. The claim that I "judged it to be a flawed complaint" is wrong. - I really mustn't speak English anymore or something. Alleged synthesis. You judged it not to be synthesis. But it wasn't a flawed complaint??????

Where do you get 18 months from?

A little more than eighteen months, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AZ07x10&type=revision&diff=583349929&oldid=582061973

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=579486889#Eurofighter_Maximum_Speed

Robert McClenon (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

That is a different content issue, so no it isn't 18 months for this subject.Z07x10 (talk) 09:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

There are no reasons other than WP:I just don't like it, hence why the mention of policy in the RFC wording is opposed. That's right the complainants are actually opposing the use of policy! Cliches have ruined this project!Z07x10 (talk) 12:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Z07X10 has shown himself to be very stubborn regarding this article and he's been reported to admins several times. I've proposed on his talk page that he accept a voluntary ban from this article as a condition of continuing to edit Misplaced Pages. EdJohnston (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh dear God, the cliche is here in full force now. This is a real encyclopedia problem - cliches that sit on articles and prevent any content they dislike, regardless of how well source it is. They simply get in contact with each other every time, so nobody can add any well-sourced content giving a certain POV. It's pretty damn bad when one gets accused of making a question 'non-neutral' simply because they asked for a policy-based reason. Then they get accused of edit warring because they added comments on a talk page in a discussion and another user removed them. Is that against policy anyway.

All I did on the talk page was exactly what User:Robert McClenon did above when he broke my edit into several pieces to respond to it. Should he be reported too?Z07x10 (talk) 09:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=667492783&oldid=667492514

Surely if I removed his edit, wouldn't I be the one in the wrong? Yet that's exactly what User:Mztourist did. Massive hypocrisy and double standards at large here!Z07x10 (talk) 09:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Seems like Z07x10 is vandalizing random articles in order to slander other users. Spotted these 2 revisions (667607396 and 667607533) while browsing Misplaced Pages. This may warrant at least a temporary block from editing articles. See https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Enumclaw_horse_sex_case&type=revision&diff=667607533&oldid=666540696 Mechordeus (talk) 12:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Mechordeus thank you for spotting that, he has been blocked for 72 hours, personally I think an indefinite block would be more appropriate. Mztourist (talk) 13:01, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked for 72 hours for the vandalism mentioned. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:54, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:ABEditWiki reported by VictoriaGrayson (Result: No action, per discussion)

Page: Caste system in India (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ABEditWiki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Diff1
2. Diff2
3. Diff3
4. Diff4

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: LINK

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: LINK

Comments:
User ABEditWiki is engaging in behaviors I have never seen before in Misplaced Pages. It is clearly disruptive editing at the very minimum.VictoriaGrayson 14:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• I was not involving in obvious Vandalism. I raised my concerns in the article talk page in detail. But without addressing any of that User VictoriaGrayson kept on reverting.
  

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2.
3.
My attempts for engaging with user: VictoriaGrayson on talk page of user was not (deliberately) attended by User VictoriaGrayson in an attempt to get me blocked. I have replied to the block warning issued on my talk page as well with the concerns, which was not attended as well.
User VictoriaGrayson is involving in POV pushing by protecting fringe claims in the lead of the article, without enough consensus on the matter nor adequate mainstream/RS citations to the claim.

I report User VictoriaGrayson for disruptive reversions 3 times as mentioned above as my concerns were un-addressed by User VictoriaGrayson in user talk page as well as article talk page. -- AB 16:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

References

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Caste_system_in_India&oldid=667495287
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Caste_system_in_India&oldid=667493879
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Caste_system_in_India&oldid=667495655

• I actually agree with User:ABEditWiki on the merits of the point (and oppose VictoriaGrayson). However, I find ABEditwiki's editing behaviour intolerably obnoxious, and should be rewarded with a block. - Kautilya3 (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• "intolerably obnoxious" is a good characterization. ABEditWiki's response on this page makes no sense. And ABEditWiki reverted Kautilya3 as well.VictoriaGrayson 17:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Result: No action, per discussion. To avoid a block for edit warring, User:ABEditWiki has agreed to wait for consensus before changing the article again. See his statement here. EdJohnston (talk) 17:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:M.srihari reported by User:Jaaron95 (Result: Blocked)

Page

Supercarrier (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

M.srihari (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 14:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC) to 14:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 14:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667341162 by Nick Thorne (talk)removed disruptive edit . the discussion is going on and starting a edit dispute is actually not good for a "experienced"(??) editor"
   2. 14:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "minor edit"
   3. 14:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 12:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 666389041 by ScrapIronIV (talk)"
   2. 12:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 666389272 by ScrapIronIV (talk)"
   3. 12:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667337783 by M.srihari (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 19:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC) on Talk:Supercarrier "/* Threaded Discussion */ Reply"

Comments:

The user has also edit warred in Vikrant-class aircraft carrier. Previous block did not render anything good. JAaron95 (Talk) 15:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

A administrator whom I know, MilborneOne advised me not to make any further edits(during a dispute in the supercarrier) until a consensus is arrived upon the issue. But now, when the discussion is going on whether to include Kuznetsov,Vishal,etc. is going on, Two editors removed these references without any consensus. I was actually temporarily absent during that time. This led to these series of edits. So, If my edit is disruptive, I wish similar action to be taken on those disruptive editors too.M.srihari (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Srihari

Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks – It looks like M.srihari is never going to let go of this article. He gets credit for joining dispute resolution, but no credit at all for continuing to revert during the discussion. Any admin may lift this block if he will promise to accept a permanent voluntary ban from supercarriers on all pages of Misplaced Pages. EdJohnston (talk) 16:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:KHLrookie reported by User:EvergreenFir (Result: )

Page

American Football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

KHLrookie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "clarifying"
   2. 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Continuation of edit warring (within 24 hours of previous block expiration) after 24 hour block by C.Fred for 3RR violation on same page for same reason. Past AN3 filing can be found above (link to section). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Very clear that the user has been repeatedly told by other editors to discuss the matter on the talk page, Which in fairness he did do on the page in question. However he did not contact the users making the revisions to discuss the matter in question and even though credit is given for raising the matter on the articles talk page, He however continued reverting instead of discussing the matter which doesn't earn him any favours. TheGRVOfLightning (talk) 03:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Denniss reported by User:All Rows4 (Result: protected)

Page: Carlos Latuff (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Denniss (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts: (page is subject to 1RR)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:
This article, about an Arab cartoonist who "is best known for his images depicting the Israeli–Palestinian conflict", is subject to the 1RR limit applicable to all articles in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The editor being reported has been involved in an edit war dating making 6 reverts over the last 4 days, and violating 1RR today, per the above diffs. I warned them and asked them to self-revert, and they refused, basically saying "others are not listening to my arguments" - see All Rows4 (talk) 17:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Ill note that the content being warred over has been in the article in substantially the same form since November 2014 , and that several editors (including Deniss, Huldra, and Pikolas) have been warring to remove it completely with no discussion. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It does not belong to the lead in the original biased/POV form, that's why I added where these claims originate from to have it more in an NPOV form. Any reader is able to judge for himself whether these are valid claims (or just a form to counter critics) by reading the section in the article. --Denniss (talk) 17:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Claims and arguments about what is or is not NPOV belong in the article's talk page, and disagreements over these things - which are a content dispute- are not exempt from 3RR/1RR restrictions, which you violated. If you don't want to be blocked, just go to the article, revert yourself, and start discussing this on the Talk page. All Rows4 (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected – there appears to be a content dispute on the page. Consider dispute resolution. (@All Rows4, Gaijin42, and Denniss:). --slakr 09:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Getoverpops reported by User:Scoobydunk (Result: Blocked indefinitely)

Page: Southern strategy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Getoverpops (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Comments:

Getoverpops just returned from a month long topic block which was the result of a previous edit warring resolution. This topic block came after multiple instances of edit warring in the past.

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive275#User:129.59.79.123 reported by User:North Shoreman (Result: Semi-protection)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive277#User:‎Getoverpops reported by User:North Shoreman (Result: Stale)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive281#User:Getoverpops reported by User:North Shoreman (Result: Blocked)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive281#User:Getoverpops reported by User:North Shoreman (Result: User agreed to remove the POV tag)

We were in the midst of discussing changes to the article when Getoverpops ceased responding to our discussion and started making sweeping changes to the articles. This was my most recent response to our conversation before he started making changes. Getoverpops was also warned again on his talk page about his most recent edit warring, but continued to edit war anyway. Multiple short-term blocks have been implemented before and none of them seem to have any affect as this user persists to revert and edit war with numerous editors.Scoobydunk (talk) 17:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't see how this can be considered an edit war. We are discussing the changes in the talk section and we are dealing with a refinement of the section. I have been active in discussing changes with others on the talk page. The four edits (not reverts) in question are for different changes each time. Furthermore we had reached an agreement that the sources I mentioned were reasonable to add to the article. Those sources were added and now we are simply refining the opening sentence to a paragraph at the end of one section. These are hardly sweeping changes (no new sections, no change in the overall thrust of the topic).

SD has only two things in these recent edits on which we don't agree. First, has been a refinement of the opening sentence for a paragraph that contains two differing views on a subtopic. The second is the inclusion of two references written by an academic in the field that support three other stronger sources (including one that has been in the article for two years). I ask that this notice be dismissed.Getoverpops (talk) 17:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

This this request was posted a long time editor, RightCowLeftCoast, has at least suggested that he also feels the paragraph I was editing (three of the four edits) is imbalanced. He has also noted that the other section I was working on (the first of the four edits claimed to be evidence of an edit war) is imbalanced and needs cleanup. My edits are good faith efforts to improve the article and currently in line with the view of a long term Wiki editor. Getoverpops (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

This is a clear violation of the 3RR policy and it's the 5th time this user has started editing warring on the same subject within a 2 month period. Remember, 1 full month of that he was not permitted to make changes to the article, and almost immediately from returning from his ban, he starts edit warring with multiple editors. This user as repeatedly ignored policy and talk page discussions to pursue his own agenda, and the fact that he's still trying to justify breaking WP policy shows he believes his actions are beyond reproach.Scoobydunk (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Comment: User:Getoverpops is a single-issue editor who is never going to give up. I persuaded him to take a break from the Southern strategy for one month as a condition of lifting his last block, but he's back again, still full of enthusiasm and still oblivious to others' opinions. He's been on Misplaced Pages since 20 Marcy 2015, and in my opinion he is on Misplaced Pages to convey great truths about his favorite topic. For a long-term warrior on one topic who isn't listening to feedback I think we get closer to an indefinite block every time they return to AN3. The time may have come for that. It would be helpful to get others' views before issuing such a block. (Note: I formatted User:Scoobydunk's set of links to the past edit warring reports). EdJohnston (talk) 02:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

EdJohnston, I strongly disagree with Scoobydunk's claim of edit warring. First, he falsely accused me of an edit war a month back when I ask you to tell me which post of mine resulted in a one month time out. You agreed that we could discuss it on June 11th but my request at that time went unanswered. If you look at the edits in question you will see they are refinements of a intro sentence to a paragraph. They are not simple reverts. I think Scoobydunk is acting in bad faith by claiming an edit war. Furthermore if you look at the posts of LeftCostRightCow you will see that he does not agree with the other editors who have previously claimed my views were minority. Please take a look at the effort I have gone through to make logical arguments and justify my views in the talk section. Finally, I would like to point out that I thought Scoobydunk and I were making good progress together and told him as much prior to his edit war posting.User_talk:Scoobydunk#Thanks If you think I have broken the rules, I ask for forgiveness since I am making a good faith effort to make the article better. I think LeftCoastRightCow will agree with that. Please take that into consideration. Getoverpops (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked indefinitely.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Dqeswn reported by User:Andy Dingley (Result: Indef block)

Page: List of unusual deaths#20th century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Dqeswn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. <no summary>
2. "dimethylmercury is a compound, so it's not mercury poisoning."
3. "Don't change it back to bullshit..."
4. <no summary>

Warring to repeatedly change the long-term stable

• 1997: Karen Wetterhahn, a professor of chemistry at Dartmouth College, died of mercury poisoning ten months after a few drops of dimethylmercury landed on her protective gloves.

to

• 1997: Karen Wetterhahn, a professor of chemistry at Dartmouth College, died of dimethylmercury poisoning ten months after a few drops of the substance landed on her protective gloves.

As is well-known, mercury has a serious hazard of chronic (long-term) mercury poisoning. However it's surprisingly difficult to achieve this through acute (short-term) exposure to elemental mercury metal. Deliberate suicide attempts have been unsuccessful.

Karen Wetterhahn was an expert chemist on mercury compounds. Her accidental death was unexpected and led to changes in the rules for handling organic mercury compounds, such as dimethylmercury. What was unappreciated beforehand was how risky these compounds were for penetrating protective gear. These compounds are also absorbed biologically far more readily than elemental mercury.

Her death though, as described in the article and from the sources in it such as Losing world‐class chemist Karen Wetterhahn to mercury poisoning redrew the boundaries of safety and risk., is accurately described as mercury poisoning. The crucial aspect was the organomercury compound increasing the risk of penetrating the gloves. In contrast to the unexpected difficulty of absorbing mercury quickly otherwise, it is the mechanism of exposure that makes the difference, and the eventual cause of death can accurately be described as the broader "mercury poisoning". The summary "dimethylmercury is a compound, so it's not mercury poisoning." is wrong, per the article, per the sources. Nor is the previous version "bullshit".

The edit warring here might appear to be over a trivial detail, but to chemists this stuff matters (it has killed at least one expert chemist). Chemists care about precise detail in stuff like this. In April we saw much the same thing from Dqeswn with 4 changes at Largest artificial non-nuclear explosions "This is not true either. Deflagration AKA burning is not an explosion either." (Note that although deflagration isn't a detonation, it is of course considered as an explosion. Chemists care about these things.)

It's at 4RR, clear bright-line. Only attempts to discuss were mine User_talk:Dqeswn#Mercury poisoning (after 2RR) Talk:Karen_Wetterhahn#Changes_at_List_of_unusual_deaths.231990s (after 3RR) and Dqeswn's User_talk:Andy_Dingley#dimethylmercury (simultaneous with 4RR).

I had already blocked when I noted this. Editor blocked until he agrees to cease the edit war. Restored the article to the version that agrees with the citation provided in the article.—Kww(talk) 18:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Her death is not accurately described as mercury poisoning, and is not so described by the first of the three sources cited (the other two are not currently accessible). According to that source " is one of the most potent neurotoxins known. It readily crosses the blood-brain barrier". It is way more toxic than mercury. I shall correct the article in line with the edit-warrior's views. Maproom (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Unsurprisingly, I would not consider that a particularly good change. As to your claim about the three sources, we have

• "the second person to die of dimethylmercury poisoning in this century." / "of mercury poisoning."
• "Losing world‐class chemist Karen Wetterhahn to mercury poisoning"
• "she slipped into a coma and died from acute mercury poisoning."

She was exposed to dimethylmercury. She died of mercury poisoning. Now it is not incorrect to state "dimethylmercury poisoning" either, but the whole crux of her notability is because of the distinction between mercury and dimethylmercury as exposure hazards. We should preserve that distinction and make it clear, especially in wide audience introductions, such as in LoUD. To claim, "Her death is not accurately described as mercury poisoning" (your emphasis) is just plain wrong. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

She no more died of "mercury poisoning" than someone who swallows cyanide dies of "carbon poisoning". She died of poisoning by a particularly toxic compound of mercury. Some lazy journalists, knowing that metallic mercury is itself a poison, fail to distinguish "mercury" from "a compound of mercury". But read source 84 from the article. Maproom (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I fail to understand why both parties were not blocked in this edit war. --jpgordon 13:45, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Maprom's comment is spot-on: "She no more died of "mercury poisoning" than someone who swallows cyanide dies of "carbon poisoning"." Dimethylmercury is extremely dangerous in an acute sense. IMHO, it is highly misleading, verging on irresponsible, to imply that elemental mercury is even in the same league of toxicity. Dimethylmercury is not just the delivery mode of elemental mercury that penetrates the skin because it is molecular and lipophilic, it is the agent itself (latching on to cysteine residues, one assumes). My understanding is that many cases of "mercury poisoning" occur via its (slow) methylation. Misplaced Pages has a role in guarding against even inadvertent chemophobia (i.e., fear based on ignorance, vs reasoned caution based on chemical facts). Mercury poisoning etc is highly topical in view of the Hg content in some coal ash or flue gas, so we should aim for consistency.

Anyway, it seems that there must be a way of wording this thing to satisfy most parties, who seem well intentioned. --Smokefoot (talk) 15:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

If "She no more died of "mercury poisoning" than someone who swallows cyanide dies of "carbon poisoning"." is "spot on", would you care to comment on why so many of the RS already in the article are happy to use it? Are you, with Dqeswn, describing the contents of http://stemed.unm.edu/PDFs/cd/CLASSROOM_LAB_SAFETY as "bullshit"?

I cannot comment on that source. I still get a "403" message when I try to access it. Maproom (talk) 17:38, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

If the mechanism of mercury poisoning is indeed via its slow methylation, then doesn't that support the argument that her death, however the exposure happened, was down to "mercury poisoning" by the usual mechanism? It took months for her to even show symptoms, as is not unusual for elemental mercury exposure. Although the exposure was different, what supports this claim that the manner of her death was different?

We should BTW probably move this to Talk:Karen Wetterhahn Andy Dingley (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

I am not a super-duper expert and not agitated by this language war. I am just saying that Maprom makes a good point.

Re http://stemed.unm.edu/PDFs/cd/CLASSROOM_LAB_SAFETY being bullshit. Probably. Lot of manuals and textbooks (I have one too) warn about "mercury poisoning" indiscriminately, just covering our asses as well as a general dislike of heavy metals by professional chemists. As someone who played with lots of mercury as a child and have seen images of people floating on it (in National Geographic of all places) etc, I avoid the stuff, but dont freak out. MethylHg compounds do freak me out. I realize my words are not very defining but we do have a doctor in the house User:Sbharris. @Sbharris:--Smokefoot (talk) 16:44, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:No voy a llorar reported by User:ToonLucas22 (Result: Blocked 60 hours)

Page

Can't Be Tamed (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

No voy a llorar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667463934 by ShadowRanger (talk)"
2. 19:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "I love you Shadow"
3. 19:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667537483 by ShadowRanger (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 19:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Bangerz. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

I warned for violating the 3RR at Bangerz, but continues to edit war on other pages. TL22 (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, the reported user seems to be WP:NOTHERE. --TL22 (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

And continues to edit war even after being notified of this report. Has also made a weird comment on my talk page. --TL22 (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 60 hours. Edit warring, disruptive editing, harassment. Bishonen | talk 20:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Nomoskedasticity reported by User:31.44.136.75 (Result: Filer blocked)

Page: Yehuda Glick (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Nomoskedasticity (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 18:18, 18 June 2015‎
2. 08:48, 19 June 2015‎
3. 15:26, 19 June 2015
4. Additional revert by Zero, a long standing buddy of Nomoskedasticity.

Comments:
There have been long conversation on the Talk page in which Nomoskedasticity didn't bother to participate yet he reverted twice. I already reverted the same change by user Zero 18:30, 16 June 2015‎ asking explicitly to get involved in discussion before interfering but aparently Nomoskedasticity is above this.31.44.136.75 (talk) 09:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• The IP editor violated 1RR on an article subject to that restriction via WP:ARBPIA. 1RR of course does not apply to reverts of the edits of IP editors, so it was not a violation for me to revert that editor twice in <24 hours. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 09:38, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

update - Nomoskedasticity, WP:3RRBLP says my 2nd revert was justified and there is no exemption which allows you to revert IP edit. So not only you reverted w/o taking part in an ongoing discussion on WP:BLP, you also broke 1RR rule. 31.44.136.75 (talk) 15:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Look at the talk-page header: "Reverts of edits made by anonymous (IP) editors ... are exempt from the 1RR". Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:29, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

So now you are in violation of 3RR since WP:ARBPIA states editors "are subject to the usual rules on edit warring." You still haven't bothered joining the discussion and I added the fact an op-ed is used for facts which you used yourself somewhere else. But the main issue here is the clear BLP violation. 31.44.136.75 (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• The article history shows that the IP editor has now done 4 reverts in <24 hours. FTR, I have done 3, and so I have not violated 3RR; nor have I violated 1RR, having reverted an anonymous (IP) editor. Perhaps the article could do with semi-protection (though a block of the IP editor is also warranted). Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:50, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

This is quite amazing. An admin wrote on this case "Really, you thought you could write "X is a dangerous extremist" in a Misplaced Pages article and it wouldn't be reverted" (which you saw and clearly supports WP:3RRBLP) and you move ahead and add this text again? 31.44.136.75 (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

This IP is a walking disaster.

He's broken 1RR two days running:

• 08:36, 18 June 2015‎
• 17:55, 18 June 2015‎
• 08:22, 19 June 2015‎
• 15:17, 19 June 2015‎
• 15:37, 19 June 2015‎ 15:37

He cites policy he doesn't understand, he ignores the fact that at least 3 editors of experience, myself, User:Zero0000, and Nomoskedasticity disagree and have reverted him. He makes an insinuation that denies good faith (Zero is a buddy: I guess that means I am too). He breaks 1R with impunity and then, when reverted, thinks he can both report Nomoskedasticity for breaking the same rule he himself violates, and proceed to revert back. There is absolutely no WP:BLP violation, since the text restored rather than call Yehuda Glick names, cancels their relevance to him by showing that he is called everything from a civil rights activist to an extremist. That is in the documentary record, and the fact no one agrees, means none of these epithets express anything but a POV. Nishidani (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Background. One POV, indeed only one source, describes Yehuda Glick as a ’civil rights activist’. He is also described as a religious activist, a political activist, a far right extremist, a defender of Jewish rights, a Jewish supremicist etc. How do you handle this multiple definition? You cannot privilege any one POV.

When editors tried to describe him by selective use of the most favourable epithet of several in one of the two sources, they were trying to tilt the text. Hence this edit by Zero, which blocked the selective POV push was correct .

• neutralise a little. both "right-wing extremist" and "civil rights activist" are easy to source so we shouldn't choose one or the other

This led to a POV war, so I added the actual text of one of the two sources describing him as a ‘civil rights activist’. It reads in full:-

‘Yehuda Glick is a dangerous extremist whose actions could plunge us all into a bloody religious war. Yehuda Glick is a civil rights activist bravely fighting for freedom of worship. Yehuda Glick is a Jewish supremacist seeking to extend Israeli occupation to one of Islam’s most sacred sites. Yehuda Glick is a sweet-natured, gentle man seeking to fulfil the vision of our prophets where members of all faiths come to Jerusalem to pray side-by-side in peace.'

This patently does not support describing Glick as a 'civil rights activist'. It is saying all descriptions of him cancel each other out, or controvert each other. Hence none of the terms in the source are neutral. That is what the IPs don't accept.

Evidently, editors can’t harvest one of the several descriptors to push a POV. None of them apply, since POVs clash. My solution was to call him a ‘religious rights activist’, which fits all sources. This led to two Ips edit warring, documented here. It is absurd to insist that adding the full text implies Glick is a terrorist or extremist or supremacist, any more than he is a 'civil rights activist', and adding it does not constitute a WP:BLP violation. The systematic violation of 1RR by 2 IPs was rightly corrected after the breach of the rule, by Nomoskedasticity, as per policy.Nishidani (talk) 17:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

This is all very interesting and me and Nishidani discussed it on the talk page. The problem is Nomoskedasticity isn't part of this discussion (he just didn't bother) yet he reverted me multiple times.

As for the rest, Nishidani, if you have disagreement with another editor, take it to the talk page. Placing the text in a quote the is visiable to readers is BLP. Not to mention this is an op-ed which isn't RS for facts. I agree that ‘religious rights activist’ is probably more suitable but that is beyond the point.

Back to Nomoskedasticity, he seems to be extra careful about BLP on Omar Barghouti though I attributed the text, toned it down a bit and it doesn't even come close to 'dangerous extremist'. Double standards? 31.44.136.75 (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• "only one source, describes Yehuda Glick as a ’civil rights activist’" (@Nishidani)

It's not so correct. See my "even Aesopian language of NYT authors does prove what you're trying to deny" at a Talk page:

Activist in Israel Is Wounded in Shooting. "An Israeli-American agitator who has pushed for more Jewish access and rights at a hotly contested religious site in Jerusalem was shot and seriously wounded..."

--Igorp_lj (talk) 00:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• I saw the issue through a watchlisted page in which Cwobeel restored the deeply contested insertion of "reference only" text calling the subject of the article (a living person) a dangerous extremist and a Jewish supremacist sourced to an improper and an inadequate source. It seems as if there is a concerted effort to use non-neutral attack piece to label a person in their biography. The IP may have made numerous reverts, but according to BLP - the content should never have been reinserted after the challenge. Each editor who reinserted the attack piece violated this basic policy and failed to follow WP:BLP and WP:IRS. IP editors are not third-class citizens either. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) This board is on my watchlist. The quoted phrase doesn't support "civil rights activist", it supports "activist in favor of expanding the access and rights of Jews at" the site. Come on, now.

While Nishidani could have exercised more judgment in restoring the quote, it doesn't seem like it was a violation because reverts of IPs are exempt in this topic area, which is full of socks and trolls. Additionally, it wasn't included in article prose; it was in a footnote which already included part of the quote from the article and was misleading without the additions. It would have been better to remove the inaccurate information instead of restoring the quote, but I'm not sure this falls under the sanctions. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:27, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not asking for sanctions or punishment of anyone, but I don't expect "reverts of IPs are exempt" to be a valid defense. An error was made, it was not a big deal and life goes on. What matters is how this gets resolved. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Chris, 'text calling the subject of the article (a living person) a dangerous extremist and a Jewish supremacist . . sourced to an improper and an inadequate source'.

Excuse my bolding but Haaretz is not an 'improper and inadequatre source', it is absolutely mainstream, like the New York Times, and the text did not call the subject of the article a dangerous extremist and a Jewish supremicist'. The text simply lines up all of the contradictory statements about Glick. Since the IPs kept edit-warring, the text went into a note to make this absolutely clear to them that they are cherrypicking. Reread Anshel Pfeffer, 'The Temple Mount has gone mainstream,' Haaretz 4 November 2014. This is starkly obvious and we should not be squabbling over it. Nishidani (talk) 10:17, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• Result: Filing IP blocked 24 hours. Nomoskedasticity's reverts of the IP don't count against the ARBPIA 1RR, since they are reverts of an IP. The IP enjoys no such exemption so they broke 1RR. Claims of BLP are over the top. The opinion writer being quoted from Haaretz, Anshel Pfeffer, is implying that *some people* might consider Glick a dangerous extremist but is not stating that in his own voice. The Pfeffer quote is intended ironically, and may be too subtle for our readers to understand quickly. The article could be better off without having it in the lead. Four different possible ways of describing Glick are offered. (See the four sentences that each begin with 'Yehudah Glick is..' ). The lead ought to be clear and simple and is not a place for rhetorical flourishes that might be misunderstood. The same material could be kept in a footnote if consensus thinks it is relevant enough. EdJohnston (talk) 05:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

  Ed: I also added Template:Editnotices/Page/Yehuda Glick to hopefully help alleviate 1RR issues, since ARBPIA seems to be popular today. :P --slakr 09:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Ganeshiyer3000 reported by User:Kailash29792 (Result: No violation)

Page

Andha Naal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Ganeshiyer3000 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 07:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC) "The "Rashoman effect" does not takes place in this film. Rashoman effect is when same event in narrated by people with contradicting interpretation. What ever story each suspect says is true."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Though there are reliable sources proving the film Andha Naal's similarities to the Japanese film Rashomon, he keeps removing them, using his own unsourced analysis to state that the films are not alike. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Kailash29792 you will want to read WP:3RR. Ganeshiyer3000 has only made one edit to the article this month. This is a content dispute and it should be noted that you have not made any post to the talk page of the article to discuss the situation. MarnetteD|Talk 12:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• (Non-administrator comment) No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. TL22 (talk) 15:26, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Bosbeertjie reported by User:DVdm (Result: Blocked 24 hours)

Page: Suffield University (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Bosbeertjie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. as anon 196.212.6.11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Invitation to go to talk page, no response from user, no edit summaries

Comments:

Clear case of special purpose account with COI, adding spam, weasel words and unsourced content. - DVdm (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 24 hours NeilN 17:34, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Muffi reported by User:Bobrayner (Result:indeffed)

Page

Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Muffi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667587692 by Bobrayner (talk)"
2. 22:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "there is already catagory; Disputed territories in Europe"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

User talk:Muffi is wallpapered with unanswered warnings and block notices.

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Lengthy discussions on Talk:Kosovo, which Muffi has not bothered to join.

Comments:

In Muffi's short tenure on this site, they've had three escalating blocks, the first for editwarring & POV-pushing on the War in Donbass, then two for editwarring on Kosovo, which is subject to 1RR. Shortly after their most recent block ended, they returned to Kosovo and did two reverts in a day. Ample warnings. No talkpage discussion. This is only going in one direction, I fear... bobrayner (talk) 17:37, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

The user has given too much rope alreeady, and it is time to stop this experiment.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:185.62.242.50 reported by User:Fauzan (Result: 72h)

Page

Ramadan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

185.62.242.50 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 07:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667734337 by Fauzan (talk) It literally is."
2. 06:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667733496 by Fauzan (talk) You can get consensus to remove it there."
3. 09:52, 20 June 2015 "Added references"
4. Consecutive edits made from 06:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 06:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 06:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667732445 by Denisarona (talk)"
   2. 06:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Comments:

User is ignoring request to generate consensus on talk page Fauzan_{✉ mail} 07:26, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 72 hours --slakr 09:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User: Fauzan reported by User:185.62.242.50 (Result: declined)

Page: Ramadan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: User: Fauzan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ramadan&oldid=667734337
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ramadan&oldid=667733496
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ramadan&oldid=667733160
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ramadan&oldid=667734337

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments: User is engaging in edit warring and removing sourced material.

• Declined --slakr 09:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:185.62.242.50 reported by User:Ogress (Result: already done)

Page

Ramadan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

185.62.242.50 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 07:45, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 07:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 07:45, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Added sourced material on pre-islamic Ramadan."
   2. 07:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Fixed error."
2. 07:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667734337 by Fauzan (talk) It literally is."
3. 06:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667733496 by Fauzan (talk) You can get consensus to remove it there."
4. 06:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Added references."
5. Consecutive edits made from 06:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 06:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 06:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667732445 by Denisarona (talk)"
   2. 06:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
6. 06:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* History */"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 07:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Ramadan. (TW)"
2. 07:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Talk page */ new section"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 11:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC) on Talk:Ramadan "Adding/updating {{OnThisDay}} for 2015-06-18. Errors? User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/OnThisDayTagger"

Comments:

• Already blocked --slakr 09:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Aman sharma (kishtwar) reported by User:Ogress (Result: Blocked)

Page

Nagasena (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Aman sharma (kishtwar) (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 09:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 07:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 07:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 07:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Milinda Pañha */"
   2. 07:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. Consecutive edits made from 07:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 07:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 07:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 07:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Milinda Pañha */"
   3. 07:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Milinda Pañha */"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 08:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Welcome to Misplaced Pages! (TW)"
2. 08:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Caution: Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material on Nagasena. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 07:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Sources */ new section"

Comments:

Blocked – 48 hours. Spam. EdJohnston (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:1987sagarkaul reported by User:Bentogoa (Result: Blocked)

Page

Yoga (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

1987sagarkaul (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 11:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 11:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "modifying"
   2. 11:47, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "modifying"
   3. 11:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "modifying"
   4. 11:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "modifying"
   5. 12:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 12:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 12:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   3. 12:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. 13:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
4. Consecutive edits made from 13:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 13:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 13:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "modified with references"
   2. 13:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "added one more reference"
   3. 13:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   4. 13:29, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "added wiki reference page for Autobiography of Yoga and Kriya Yoga"
5. 13:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667765917 by Winner 42 (talk)"
6. Consecutive edits made from 13:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC) to 13:59, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 13:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "Adding again the lost information, someone is deleting it... Don't know why..."
   2. 13:59, 20 June 2015 (UTC) ""
7. 14:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC) "why the new additions are getting deleted...adding again...."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 13:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
2. 14:09, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Blocked – 48 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 15:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

EdJohnston, Seems like they are evading block, see Contributions/Swamikrishananda. Supdiop (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Tigerboy1966 reported by User:Dr John Peterson (Result: Filer indeffed as sock)

Page: Golden Horn (horse) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Tigerboy1966 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Tigerboy1966 has gone way beyond the 3RR (about 6 or 7 times) and ignores the Talk page.--Dr John Peterson (talk) 15:15, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

please view the edit history of the page. It's pretty obvious what's happening. Tigerboy1966  15:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I have filed a relevant SPI at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Dr John Peterson. Winner 42 Talk to me! 16:11, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked Dr John Peterson indefinitely as a sock puppet.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

User:82.11.33.86 reported by User:TripWire (Result: )

Page: Balochistan, Pakistan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 82.11.33.86 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: Diff

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff

Apart from the above reverts, foll diff shows the info the IP has been constantly adding in clear violation of the discussion at the Talk Page (he simply refuse to accept that the edits are beyond the scope pf the article especially when a dedicated page (Balochistan conflict) already exists on the info he is trying to add:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff
5. diff —TripWire  20:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

• diff
• Diff
• Diff

Comments:

There's a long discussion at the talk page, The IP has been explained and discussed with many times that the info he is trying to add does not fit the scope of the article. He alone Vs 5 x other editors have said the samething, but he simply fails to pay heed to the discussion at the Talk Page.—TripWire  19:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I only have one revert, all infos I add is new. Only one user on talk is against the edit, and he is no being honest here. See here 82.11.33.86 (talk) 19:35, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

So what you want to say is that all the following discussions are fake:

And all the other editors (Human3015, Cyphoidbomb, Faizan, TopGun and myself) have been saying and telling you is wrong? —TripWire  19:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb says violations belong in article Human3015 Faizan have no commented Top Gun has only just. So you're not being honest. 82.11.33.86 (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Let the Admin be the judge of that. —TripWire  19:47, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)Making changes in content that is already a part of the article is called a revert. Regardless of whether you change one part of the article or the other, as far as you are modifying edits of other users, you are reverting. You have been doing this since Jun 13 and all I see is editwar - which is the case regardless of any discussion you ought to have started. --lTopGunl (talk) 19:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
• I have only added new info, I did only 1 revert. Even Paksol/TripWire says consensus on human rights violations and adding he facts. so you delete against consensus. 82.11.33.86 (talk) 19:53, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Trying to mislead by lieing:

• 1st Revert Today
• 2nd Revert Today
• 3rd Revert Today Manually adding the same info again is also called Revert and you know it and that's why you did it manually.—TripWire  20:07, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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