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Cassianto, please find me 10 missing articles on Saint Barthélemy I can put up on the Intertranswiki board. I'll need your help stubbing a few of course :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'll give it a go Doc! Cassianto 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- LoL, you do know I'm only here one more day? Cassianto 14:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could nick a flower from Andromeda Gardens today then which I started back in 2006!?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
While you're on the beach...
Evening Cass, Tim riley and I have been working on P.G. Wodehouse and have now launched him on both the main page and now at PR. If you have time when you're back from the beach, or inclination, your thoughts would be much appreciated. Pip pip! – SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- You're damn right I have the inclination! He was a great author, one of the best in fact! Hopefully, the PR will still be open by the time I get back. As you know from my gloating email earlier, I'm seldom in one place for very long at the moment and WiFi is a bit rubbish to say the least. I have started reading it nonetheless and will meet you at either PR or FAC in a week or so. Cassianto 14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Tantrums and Tomfoolery
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== User conduct ==
Hello,
Recently it's been brought to my attention that there are some concerns about your recent conduct. Please take the time to review the civility policy and become familiar with the expected level of conduct towards other users. Thanks, Mike V • Talk 22:45, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- What a tedious and patronising little comment... Perhaps the editor who's whining to you on your talk page should do something useful instead? – SchroCat (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oh no, I'm quaking in my boots here!!! Listen, Mike V, why don't you and your teacher's pet go and do some good somewhere, like actually review a GA or write a few stubs? You know, somewhere where you're appreciated? Because let me tell you, your not appreciated here. Cassianto 05:21, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- oh, and since you're here, why don't you go and do something about the ganging up at RfA a few days ago; a place where I have never been before and one which I decided to visit to have my say over who becomes an admin or not. I see Chillum is reluctant to recognise the incident, so maybe you could. In fact, here's a coincidence! Your complainant was one of those admins!
- My point in turning up at ANI was that I am sick of watching those who couldn't give a toss about article creation and who care more about how to be lovely to one another, becoming admins. Once they have the tools they ignore article writing (in NeilN's case he never started), and then choose instead to loiter around ANI ready to console whinging editors who complain about incivility during content disputes. Having wrapped the complainant up in cotton wool, they then turn up at the featured article writer's talk page, eager to administer their first block. The result is that they then gain the necessary criteria to enter the Administrator's Mess and guffaw with their fellow newbies over a glass of malt. Now obviously, that doesn't apply to every admin, but for the large majority, unfortunately. I and other content writers feel the same about this, but nobody bothers to ask us how we feel. Cassianto 05:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Please be careful here, Cass. This is the same guy that blocked me for edit warring with LB, and didn't seem to bother with looking at the actual edit history. I made one edit after notification of Discretionary Sanctions, and got a pretty little permanent black mark on my record. I did not break 3RR, but got the same block LB did for her 6th revert. Obviously does not know what it is like to actually create content, and have to work with other editors without the "tools" to back him up. Not even remotely familiar with the current environment. Scr★pIron 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm well aware who this person is. Unfortunately, he's implicated himself by rocking up on my talk page on the behalf of a troublemaker who felt the need to run to an admin when he could've challenged me here himself. All this because I wasn't allowed an opinion and didn't conform to the sycophancy which went on at NeilN's RfA. Cassianto 14:00, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Please stop with the persistent uncivil comments, such as this. Further instances will result in a block. Mike V • Talk 16:23, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- What a ridiculous threat to make over a nothing comment. Move on and try and be constructive for goodness sake: this smacks of some petty harassment over something so minor. - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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- And how else is supposed to respond to being called a troll? I notice that you have not made a similar comment/warning on that user's page. Or is something else going on here? Scr★pIron 16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- The reason I called you a troll was entirely due to your own throwaway disparaging remark about FP@S's so-called 'conduct.' Allegations, like edits, need to be sourced. Diffs are RS. Your remark it amounted to nothing more than a personal attack therefore = trolling. Fortuna 16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- He made no accusation, or allegation. He asked a question. Learn the difference. What you read into his comment says more about you than what he actually wrote. Scr★pIron 16:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- No. He said "why am I not surprised by this editor's conduct.'" No question-mark. Just a full stop. Period. All I read was what was there. As should you. You failure do so- somewhat ironically- does indeed "more about you " than anything else. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 16:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- You can assume what you want to assume Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, frankly, I couldn't give a toss. What I do care about is you coming to my talk page and causing trouble. Now kindly fuck off. Cassianto 18:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- With pleasure, cunt, and I'll leave you to finish yourself off Fortuna 18:30, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Personal attacks
I have blocked Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi for personal attacks here. The behaviour others here have not been much better. Further personal attack blocks can be handed out if people are not able to converse without resorting to childish name calling. Chillum 18:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Cassianto, I have blocked your account for 48 hours for persistent personal attacks towards others. I have also revoked your talk page access since you have used it to continue to make inappropriate comments. If you wish, you may appeal your block through UTRS. Mike V • Talk 18:58, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why are you conducting half of this email conversation on-wiki? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- There's something distinctly creepy whenever somebody does that. I don't see the point in doing it other than to humiliate somebody.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- This is not the peanut gallery. If you wish to discuss this with me you can do it on my talk page. Chillum 22:17, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you have any right to tell people where they can and cannot comment, especially as it's about actions on this page. – SchroCat (talk) 00:19, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- Quite, and conducting half a conversation on wiki is really not on. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- And now the same admin has protected the page to prevent further discussion as to the odd and one-sided behaviour. This behaviour is getting worse by the minute. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Mike V: The blocking policy says that disabling a user's access to their talk page "is not checked by default, and typically should not be checked; editing of the user's talk page should be disabled only in the case of continued abuse of the talk page" (emphasis mine). As such, I'm going to restore Cassianto's access—leaving the block in place—before I go to bed tonight unless you have a policy-based objection. Best, Ed 03:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- And I've now done so. Cassianto, please don't continue the same behavior and make me look like a fool. Ed 08:27, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- In terms of my "behaviour" I shall change nothing. If someone trolls me, I am entitled to tell them to fuck off. Don't worry, my reasons for not posting here - or anywhere in fact - is because I am on holiday. The only "behaviour" that should be in question is that of Chillum and MikeV. As I've said previously Ed, thank you, and that goes to all others who have supported me through this. Cassianto 08:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
John Grimek and actual content creation
I know you are on vacation (and I do hope you are having a marvelous time!) but if you think of it, I cam across some information about John Grimek, and am looking to improve his article. It is an area I am personally unfamiliar with, and would appreciate collaborating again with you on some article content. The biggest challenges I am facing are image acquisition Strength & Health magazine covers were used in the past, but deleted in 2007 for fair use counter example #8. As he was the subject of (multiple) covers of that magazine and was also its editor, I think it might actually be appropriate. I went into the article's history, and the fact that he was also the magazine's editor was not taken into account when the image was deleted. The other issue I am coming across is that articles on this subject are often blogs or personal histories, and the only biography I know of his life was published in England, and out of print now. Personal histories may work; I have an electronic copy of the Iron Game History issue from which was dedicated to his life after his passing, and induction to the IBFF Hall of Fame. Scr★pIron 14:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Jack Bologna
Grazie caro Cassianto! (I hope you don't mind me removing your kind welcome message to avoid misunderstandings - I prefer to contribute as a gf logged-out editor). Regarding Jack Bologna, I was intrigued to find out where he and his family emigrated from. According to Dickens's Memoirs of Joseph Grimaldi (primary/secondary sourcing?) they moved to London from Genova. Best, 109.146.70.40 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Do as you will, but the sentiment still remains. Bologna moved all over the place and I do seem to remember Genova being mentioned in Dickens somewhere. If you want to add anything though, please do add the source and correctly format it. Cheers Cassianto 21:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- The format is that used on the Joseph Grimaldi page, which is an FA; I've now fixed the link, using Google Books for ease of consultation. I've also found a secondary source regarding the description of their friendship in the memoirs, which I'll add in. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- RE How not a benefit??? I have serious backache irl, and now give up. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Having it as "Further reading" tells us nothing; it is merely a plug for the book. If you have access to the book, cite some info from it and weave it I nto the article. Then add it to the "sources" section. Re Grimaldi, I authored it and had it pass FA, so I know the links to Bologna. I saw your edit and agree with it. Cassianto 21:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- In the circumstances, I think what I'll probably do is make a comment on the talk page, with a secondary RS, and then leave it to you (or whoever). 109.146.70.40 (talk) 08:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Good idea. Cassianto 18:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I was going to ask if you were interested in expanding this I just started but as Stronzo blocked you I guess not.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Your talk page protection is being discussed at WP:ANI
Just for clarity, and out of politeness, your talk page being protected, and then unprotected, is being discussed at WP:ANI, at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Chillum overstepping reasonable boundaries of adminship. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:12, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Phew!
I briefly thought Misplaced Pages had been taken over by Himmler or Pol Pot. Glad to see you're now acknowledged again as existing. Meanwhile, P. G. Wodehouse is at PR, courtesy of self and another old lag. All comments gladly received once you're back from your break. Tim riley talk 20:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- The full-protection of this page was certainly debatable and has been reverted, but that sort of analogy is distasteful. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- Distasteful but close to the mark in this context. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:14, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
- Agree with Tim and TRM. Wodehouse is on my "to do" list. Cassianto 11:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- But not for four hours right? ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:54, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Possible subject of interest
Thought you might be interested in the ongoing discussion about sock-puppetry and ip-falsifying software at Impact of paid editors and false ip software on admin elections
Cheers,
Scott P. (talk) 00:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- I appreciate the thought, but as I've stated elsewhere, RfA is for those not wishing to improve the encyclopaedia and is instead geared for massaging egos and adding to sycophancy. For those reasons I shall decline your invitation. Cassianto 11:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
More skullduggery?
Mike V and Chillum, is there a reason as to why I'm still blocked and Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi is allowed to edit here?. That's funny, I didn't see an appeal? Chillum continues to make the rules up as he goes along, why am I not surprised? Cassianto 16:40, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Because of this rather second-rate decision that absolutely stinks! Some have never been able to play straight.... – SchroCat (talk) 16:51, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Mates rates. Chillum, why don't you share Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi's email asking for the block to be removed? Presumably that must've happened? Cassianto 17:23, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I am not sure why you are pinging me or what this has to do with you. I blocked a user for personal attacks and this user responded in a mature fashion that led me to believe the block was not preventative any more. Are you suggesting that I should not reverse my own blocks without some sort of special process? Chillum 19:55, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- We all know how to avoid being blocked for too long for being displaying obnoxious behaviour in calling someone a cunt. Good work! - SchroCat (talk) 19:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm pinging you because it involves you Chillum. Please don't make me have to explain that to you. Cassianto 20:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- If you think my unblock was inappropriate you are welcome on my talk page or if you prefer you can seek a wider review. Chillum 20:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Your justification for unblocking FIM was flawed and without justification. I noticed you said on your talk page "nobody likes to be refused an unblock request", referring to me. Let's get this clear: I wasn't refused and I never asked to be unblocked. Where do you get your facts from? Cassianto 20:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Peanut Gallery
Not another peanut gallery... Time for another lock! ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:49, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Seeking review
As is required at ANI I am giving you notice that you are involved in a discussion there:
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Seeking_review_of_an_unblock_of_mine regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
Your concerns are important to me so I am seeking further review of my actions from the community. Chillum 21:57, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Wondering how exactly this helps the encyclopedia....♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- He clearly thinks it helps, but we all know that his under the counter behaviour has been at the heart of the problem here. FWIW, I didn't ask him to do this, but he felt the need to embarrass himself just one last time. Cassianto 13:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- I just bury myself in article work at times like these....and tune out of discussion and drama pages. I generally find if i look for any length of time I find myself getting annoyed....and I edit here to relax.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:51, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well said. I spend no time at any of the various dramah spots as they are just not worth it. They seem to be occupied by a strage bunch who do little to actually improve anything, but spend their time bitching an sniping at one another, or preening themselves and thinking how good they are - nothing useful in actually building an encyclopaedia. Those places are providers of nothing but grief for most! - SchroCat (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- That is, of course, the best way Cas. But these fuckwits then keep a watch on you like MI5 and pounce should you even so much as challenge a troublesome do-gooder who rocks up on your FAC to enforce a slice of POV, or an infobox onto all your hard work. Cassianto 14:09, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- That's sadly the case. One might wish they had something better to do, such as writing an article. Eric Corbett 23:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- Perish the thought. Article writing has always come second best to civility, which in itself comes as a by-product to the former. What the civility police don't realise is that without the article writing in the first place, their entire existence would cease as there would be no Misplaced Pages. That is why content creation is a whole lot more important than telling someone to fuck off. Cassianto 08:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Leave Baseball Bugs alone.
Your rant on his talk page is pure abuse. He is a highly respected editor and your attack on him is to your own detriment only. Furthermore, your actions are totally out of keeping with the spirit of Misplaced Pages. I suggest you tone it down severely, or risk facing the consequences of your actions.
Anon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.18.104 (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why don't you fuck off, Mr brave IP? Cassianto 22:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
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