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User:Kelly Martin/Vacation

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Your list

Hi Kelly, I am one of the people you talk about who do the work around here. I'm an admin. I watch the admins notice board to see what is happening. I just want you to know that I wasted a good deal of time yesterday trying to understand what was going on with the controversy around your list. I wonder how many other people like me were just watching and wondering, just trying to understand what was going on. That multiplies out to hundreds of hours of wasted time. I hope you will consider that the next time you plan an experiment. -- Samuel Wantman 19:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

While I wouldn't presume to answer for Kelly, it seems that an important distinction is being overlooked: She created the page, not the controversy. I find it difficult, almost impossible, to believe that any active participant in WP doesn't keep a list, even if it's only in their head. I certainly do. --Doc Tropics 20:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

As do I. And frankly if I were Kelly I would take exception to being accused of creating the controversy. Kelly has done NOTHING against a policy or guideline. However the same can't be said for many of her attackers. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 20:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Kelly herself said that she created the list to see "who would react badly to it". So therefore she knew that the list would be provocative. Had I been on the list I would definitely been wondering why, and it is hard to imagine someone who would not be wondering. So by the nature of creating the list it had to draw many people's attention. Even if everyone had reacted totally calmly and only assumed good faith it would have drawn quite a bit of attention from many people. There may not yet be a guideline against doing what Kelly did. Perhaps WP:NOT should have a section that says "Misplaced Pages is not a place to perform social experiments on users without their consent" for the simplest reason that it is bound to waste people's time and incite bad behavior, and as a result bad feelings. -- Samuel Wantman 21:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It actually wasn't even linked to from her userpage so really the only reason anyone found it was by chance so it obviously wasn't created to even cause those questions to be asked. It was completely obscure until we all started digging in her namespace. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 00:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

We've seen who reacted badly - I think it's time to defuse this. I added a section to clear up the purpose of the page. Please leave it there. And if you could elaborate more on what you are doing with the page, that would be helpful. Λυδαcιτγ 19:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Mirror site?

Hi Kelly, I know you're busy, but I also know you have a lot of experience with wiki-stuff. If you have a chance could you look here ], follow the 2 links I posted in the section "Mirror site", and then tell us what the heck it is? Thanks in advance! --Doc Tropics 21:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparently I found a bad thing without even realizing it and Steps Have Been Taken. --Doc Tropics 21:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Erik the Rude

Hi, I'm writing you because I was about to file a checkuser request involving Erik the Rude and Brian G. Crawford when I saw that you mentioned it already on Erik the Rude's Talk page. Has there already been such a checkuser? I have good reason to believe that Interestingstuffadder may also be the same person, and I would like to expand the checkuser request to include this user. Clearly with Interestingstuffadder making an early, damaging oppose comment in Catamorphism's RFA, this is significant. --Aguerriero (talk) 22:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not see any evidence for this in my examination of Erik's and Brian's editing activities. Kelly Martin (talk) 23:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

So are you telling me that the checkuser should be at the end of my research, rather than the beginning? --Aguerriero (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 CheckUser is not for fishing Kelly Martin (talk) 04:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Just saw my name mentioned here. I can assure you that I am not Erik the Rude. I was drawn early to Caatemorphism's RFA because I have their talk page on my watch list (thanks to some content disagreements months ago) and saw that they had been nominated. I would appreciate my privacy not being violated, as there is no evidence based on our edit patterns that I have any relationship to these users. Thanks. Interestingstuffadder 00:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Requesting Admin

Here's a little sweetness and light to distract yourself from other things: I believe that this was a bad faith posting on another editor's talkpage ]. It was recently reposted on other pages here and here ]. Under the circumstances (which are long and hotly disputed), I believe that the editor involved will continue this viscious little smear campaign which clearly violates WP:Policies. Since RFI can be...sluggish in some cases I'm asking if you'd be willing to look into this and take appropriate action before more damage is done. Thanks in advance, I hope you can help. --Doc Tropics 22:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Another Admin has already blocked. Thanks anyway :) --Doc Tropics 02:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't be bogged down

I've read about the threats against you, but please have the strength to endure them. Don't let them run you off the project - I'm sure that politicians and other public figures have endured many more of them every day and maintained their positions. We've already seen a number of valued contributors get driven off by threats (Gator1, Katefan0, Francs2000, etc.), so please don't join those ranks. Editor88 02:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, that's not a risk. If I leave the project, it'll be over the absurd internal politics, not because of lame threats from persons of questionable mental stability. Kelly Martin (talk) 11:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"remove false information"

I see that your comment was about User:Kelly Martin/T. My mistake. Could you please give an explanation for User:Kelly Martin/R, then? Λυδαcιτγ 02:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I found the explanation. It would have saved time if you had put it there before the MFD, after El C did in fact "jerk his knee and attempt to punish for creating it". Λυδαcιτγ 03:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

re:my apparent confusion

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Alot of time has passed and I don't remember who were the "kill them with fire" guys and who were more moderate.  Grue  12:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"Account-cest" RFCU

I had a feeling about that, however, Chrisbrownwifey06 identified as a girl, while the other accounts were guys. And I do not know if they are actually separate people who are all just on the same connection/computer. Still, I don't think the English Misplaced Pages would be losing anything if they were all indefblocked (that and the semi-racist remark made by one of them, and the personal attacks by the unrelated user on other users would be greater reasons to have them go to MySpace or livejournal where they can be a part of a community). --Ryūlóng 07:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Board candidate questions

Hi Kelly, I'm glad to see you're running for the current board elections. I have some questions that I think would be good to know - please answer (or ignore) them as you see fit. Thanks. Cormaggio 11:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

1. What do you do in real life?
2. What personal/professional experience would you bring to the board, if elected?
3. What do you see as the role of a board member?
4. Do you have any personal aspirations you would like to pursue through a tenure on the board?

My "day job" is that of network administrator. Prior to my current position, I worked for a non-profit organization in a role that included significant exposure to its policymaking process. I have also run small businesses and volunteered in a soup kitchen, where I mainly had administrative roles and worked closely with the executive director. Several years ago I was a lead developer on a major open source software project. I think my combination of experience would represent a valuable asset to the Board.

The role of the Board member is to set broad direction for the Foundation as a whole. The position should not involve day to day leadership; ideally, matters like that will be handled by the Executive Director and the staff and volunteers who assist the ED. Rather, the Board sets broad policy for the organization, only getting personally involved in major decisions that will have broad impact across the entire organization. In my opinion, the past Board of the Foundation has done a poor job of delegating day to day responsibility, although this is starting to change; it would be one of my goals to continue to work in this direction.

Personally I am running because a couple of people whose opinions I value asked me to consider running, and because I did not feel as though any of who I believed would be likely candidates would have fully met with my approval. In addition, I have been a vocal advocate of "professionalizing" the Foundation and my candidacy is intended, at least in part, as a platform to forward my advocacy.

I hope this addresses your questions adequately; please feel free to ask for additional clarification. Regards, Kelly Martin (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)