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Ambuj.Saxena
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Ambuj.Saxena (talk · contribs) – Ambuj Saxena has been a valued contributor here since February 2006. In that span, he has been a prolific editor to India related and other pages (most notably in bringing Indian Institutes of Technology to FA status) and has particpated avidly in Articles for deletion (where he has been thoughtful and has exhibited fine judgment; see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/HSR Layout for example, where he took the time to build the article up after being alerted about it on AfD). He has contributed to Portal:India by selecting articles, pictures, and DYK's for the Portal's main page. He always has a cool temperament, even when attacked personally (see these diffs for brilliant displays of self-control and collegiality: , , ). He has also contributed to the spoken Misplaced Pages project and even fights vandalism. He is modest and has a level headed understanding of being an administrator: .
Of all these things, what has most impressed me is Ambuj's thoughtfulness in all that he does on-wiki. I think that quality is exactly what will make him an exceptional administrator -- Samir धर्म 23:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept the nomination and thank Samir for showing confidence in me. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support
- Extremely Strong Support No question about it. --Srikeit 05:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support per nom. - Ganeshk (talk) 05:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. If you get vandalized as much as his userpage (and photo), you have to be doing something right. αChimp 06:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Really annoying, long drawn-out insanely-praising lots of boldced words that everyone will have to look at all week support. RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 06:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose + Strong Oppose = Powerful Support Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 06:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- So you are one of those guys who thinks that two wrongs make a right? I don't advise it on Misplaced Pages :) Gizza 03:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Why are you "one of those guys" who has to be too literal? Relax and have fun. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 06:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong support as nominator -- Samir धर्म 07:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support I agree with Samir that Ambuj's a knowledgeable and levelheaded editor with a good temperament. I'd support him for adminship anyday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sundar (talk • contribs)
- Support as per all of the above! TruthCrusader 07:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom. DarthVader 07:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Merovingian - Talk 08:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong support Sameer has not mentioned about his helpfulness so let me vouch for that. Regular worker at the helpdesk -- Lost 08:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Super-duper strong support!! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Looking good to me. Mostly Rainy 10:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Seems to tick all the boxes ;) Thε Halo 10:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Go for it. Yanksox 10:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support yes please - CrazyRussian talk/email 11:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong support per nom - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 11:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Looks like an extremely strong candidate for adminship. (aeropagitica) (talk) 11:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support I have to keep reminding myself that Ambuj is not an admin already. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 12:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support.--Kungfu Adam 12:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- S-U-P-E-R S-T-R-O-N-G S-U-P-P-O-R-T -- thunderboltz13:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Very impressive. :) RandyWang (/review me!) 13:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Has the right stuff AdamBiswanger1 13:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Not only does he meet my standards but he goes beyond them! --Tuspm 13:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support A blessing for Misplaced Pages. --Incman|वार्ता 14:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- This was long due. --Nearly Headless Nick 14:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Very Strong Support: I know him for long, almost from the time he chose to become a wikipedian. A real gem among us! --Bhadani 14:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Tintin (talk) 14:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Any enemy of the Vandals is a friend of mine and a welcome admin. --Vengeful Cynic 15:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Undescribably strong support per this and this. This is just the kind of things that strengthen my faith in us. Dear Ambux, no matter what - never change, please. Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 15:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Orane (talk • cont.) 16:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Seems a very good candidate. --Guinnog 17:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support No problems here. --Siva1979 17:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. ~ crazytales56297 -talk- 18:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support 172 | Talk 18:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support great user. —Khoikhoi 19:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Support Good luck, not that you will need it. 8-) -- Avi 19:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Changed to Neutral
- Support —Quarl 2006-07-27 19:51Z
- Support His name and picture were used by an IP to vandalize my user page. Vandals know of him; he appears to be doing the right things. Gimmetrow 20:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Almost 600 portal edits?! I've been searching for just 1 to make for a month now, just to have it on my list :P -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 20:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support good editor. Dlyons493 Talk 20:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cleared for adminship, without any further doubt. Interactions with this user suggest this user is able to maintain a positive interaction with others, and is able to maintain a strong attitude (no pun intended), even through the toughest of times. --Pilotguy 22:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. A very good distribution of edits, and I see no sign of incivility in contribs. This user would've gotten my support a month ago. Picaroon9288|ta co 22:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Wish-I-could've-beat-nom-Support Pleasure to deal with. Edits are well distributed. Cool under fire from vandals. Could use more time here, but a fine editor, enough to see my support too. Kevin_b_er 22:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Sound candidate. Tyrenius 23:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support excellent candidate per nom. Eluchil404 02:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support His promotion will have a positive result for Misplaced Pages. Gizza 03:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hrm, I thought he was already an admin Support I suppose this might be a bit of piling on and I think that Misplaced Pages will do well to give Ambuj.Saxena the extra buttons —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hoopydink (talk • contribs) .
- Full support. User's contribs look good, and I feel we need more admins knowledgeable on India-related topics.--Firsfron of Ronchester 05:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Everything that was said in the nomination, along with your answers to the questions, show me you'd be a great administrator. Mo0 05:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong support. Got to know him with respect to his edits on Indian Institutes of Technology, and didn't find anything wrong with him back then, and his contributions have widened since that time, which can only be a good thing. Hope you do a great job! Ansell 08:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Looks like a great candidate. Valentinian 10:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. — FireFox 11:07, 28 July '06
- support per all of the above —Minun 12:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support; hard worker and handles stress and criticism well. The IIT nomination was a grueling experience, but he did a great job of working with everyone on it. --Spangineer (háblame) 13:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support; everything looks good; I expect him to be an excellent admin. Antandrus (talk) 17:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh yes, support of course. - Mailer Diablo 17:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Suppport - Handles situations very well. Looks good. —Mirlen 18:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support good contributor, should be a good admin. -MrFizyx 19:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Jaranda 20:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Support. How could I not support? Gimme a reason to not support. I don't want to know the reason anymore. I support. Viva La Vie Boheme 00:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- ~ Encephalon 02:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support seems solid. Viridae 03:54, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support, looks good. --Terence Ong (Chat | Contribs) 04:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom. MichaelZ526 06:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- 'Support You have my support, you would be great as a SYSOP! Good luck Æon 08:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Excellent contributor. The oppose vote is an example of where Ambuj did the right thing and the user didn't like it. Oh well, can't win em all. - Taxman 17:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support, although I could've waited till early October. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 20:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Pepsidrinka supports. 22:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support He has surprised me with his ability to remain diplomatic under the most pressing situations (where usually I am ready to become confrontational). Very much an admin material. --Blacksun 04:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support I've seen nothing to disuade me from endorsing this request, keep up the good work! ShaunES 04:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Good contributor with an excellent knowledge of the policies. And hey, wait a minute...he shares my birthday too! - Cribananda 05:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Hv been inactive for a while, else, i'd have nominated him for RfA myself. --Gurubrahma 06:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. utcursch | talk 07:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Seivad 12:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Newyorkbrad 16:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Extremely strong Support a very helpful wikipedian, would make an excellent admin.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- No reason not to. Support ++Lar: t/c 19:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support: edits look sensible and I haven't seen any reason to suggest this candidate would be difficult to deal with as an Admin. Stephen B Streater 22:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support the compiling, into a venerable tome, of the many Good Words with which he has graced WP. Good admin material. ImpuMozhi 01:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support —WAvegetarian•(talk) 02:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support, without reservations. Sango123 03:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support, great contribuater to the CVU team. :) --Shane 08:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support, and everyone goes :o whaaa!? lol, even though i disagreed with u on my RfA, your definetly A-Class Admin material. and I do believe i said (in ref to RfA) I'm sure i'll get there one day, and I hope you do too, I can't see it happening if i don't vote! Good on u Ambuj, I wish you luck ;). --Deon555|talk|e 10:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Ps. I just saw in ur nom the ref's to our convo's, and although I didn't think I was attacking you personally, I was out of line, and you dealed with the situation awesomely ;)
- Support -Bharatveer 10:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong support : deserves adminship. Has helped in PR and FAC of many articles, providing great judgement. --Ragib 14:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Someone should really close this, you're a shoe-in. SynergeticMaggot 15:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support Sarah Ewart (Talk) 16:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Support will be good admin --rogerd 23:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support.Blnguyen | rant-line 00:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support per nom. That's a large number of portal edits. Grandmasterka 05:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support Stubbleboy 18:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom. BryanG 21:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom and personal interaction. —Nightstallion (?) 21:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- One Article to write, One Article for peer review, One Article be made FA and the RFA shall bind him. -- Миборовский 21:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom, et al. Joe 01:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose
- Oppose Lacks judgement , balance and maturity .Example :in debate on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Justice Kan Singh Parihar he considers a former judge and ALSO a former Vice Chanacellor of Jai Narain Vyas University not notable enough .Obiviously needs time to learn and develop .Shyamsunder 9:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- However the consensus in that discussion was to delete, so his judgement seems to be in line with the majority of the community. Kevin 07:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC) (forgot to sign earlier)
- That is not relevant here .What is relevant is Ambuj's comments therein .Ambuj did not consider a high court judge for about 10 years and who was appointed as a VC of a University after retirement and was also selected to head a panel to assess the excesses in the emergecy in 1975 notable enough. Ambuj's comments were remarkable in sense they provided insight into his thinking, understanding and objectivity . Look at various pages started/ edited by him on people associated with IIT for example page on Nitin Saxena.For Ambuj Nitin Saxena is notable Kan Singh is not.With his current sense of judgement and fairplay he would not be an ideal administrator as of now.The wikipedian community should not thrust administratoship on him .Instead Ambuj should be allowed some more time to develop.Shyamsunder 8:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please take your issues to WP:DRV. This is not an appropriate forum. Many other editors "voted" to delete that article also -- Samir धर्म 21:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- If anyone got interested, I have no connections with Nitin Saxena, and my judgement of his notability was based on his involvement in developing the AKS Primality Test. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please take your issues to WP:DRV. This is not an appropriate forum. Many other editors "voted" to delete that article also -- Samir धर्म 21:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- That is not relevant here .What is relevant is Ambuj's comments therein .Ambuj did not consider a high court judge for about 10 years and who was appointed as a VC of a University after retirement and was also selected to head a panel to assess the excesses in the emergecy in 1975 notable enough. Ambuj's comments were remarkable in sense they provided insight into his thinking, understanding and objectivity . Look at various pages started/ edited by him on people associated with IIT for example page on Nitin Saxena.For Ambuj Nitin Saxena is notable Kan Singh is not.With his current sense of judgement and fairplay he would not be an ideal administrator as of now.The wikipedian community should not thrust administratoship on him .Instead Ambuj should be allowed some more time to develop.Shyamsunder 8:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- I can't see how a misjudgement of a persons notability (in your opinion) in one AfD is significant enough reason to oppose the users adminship. I also couldn't help notice you voted Keep in that AfD. So I am led to believe that you are only opposing the candidate simply because of a disagreement in an AfD which didn't go your way.--Andeh 23:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- How are AfD votes (which were supported by the consensus) an objective reason to vote oppose. Take the process seriously, dont point out the obvious, ie. that he could make a mistake, admins are human too. Ansell 08:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- While I disagree with his vote, that is not a reason to deny him adminship. --Gurubrahma 06:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- However the consensus in that discussion was to delete, so his judgement seems to be in line with the majority of the community. Kevin 07:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC) (forgot to sign earlier)
- Oppose. Given the numbers, this will end up as just as a protest vote, but I want to make it anyway. I recently encountered Ambuj for the first time during the nomination for a featured article I partially wrote, and I came away with a very negative impression of him; in fact, my first thought was: "I hope this guy never stands for adminship," then I saw this nomination. He opposed the FA nomination of a very carefully researched, 11,000-word article on the grounds that it didn't use citation templates, and didn't link dates the way he likes them to be linked. His comments are here, here, and here, and after it was awarded FA status, he changed his object to something called "strongly abstain," whatever that means. He then complained about me on the talk page, implying that, after his opposition, I had edited policy pages to make it easier for the nom to pass, even though it had already passed. I have rarely encountered such rigidity of thinking, small-mindedness, disrespect for other people's hard work, and such a fast presumption of bad faith. I want to stress that I'm not opposing because he voted against the nomination; it was the way he did it, the reasons he did it, his misunderstanding of policies and guidelines, his presumption of bad faith, the lack of coherence of his opposition (some of which I still don't understand); and, above all, his bizarre "complaint" about me afterwards. The worrying thing is that this was him during his adminship nomination, when you'd think he'd be on his best behavior. Clearly, he seems to think there's no need for best behavior, and that's a concern too. SlimVirgin 16:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Opposes like this would require some clarification on my part. First of all, I encourage those assessing the claims to go through what happened before this oppose (by the diffs provided by SlimVirgin). In the FAC, I first made a suggestion (by saying "comment") to use citation templates. I made other suggestions for improvement to the article. SV replied that the citation templates are a nuisance. By the next time I replied, I also noticed other issues with the article, i.e. non-wikilinking of dates and not providing last access date for web references. I noted my views on the citation templates, and not to confuse that this is not something I oppose, I made a note that my objections are not because of them. In the third edit, I again confirmed that I am not opposing because of it. I also clarified some of the doubts raised by SV in her previous reply. Fast forward to next day when the article was promoted, but I didn't knew of (there are no templates at the top and bottom saying the discussion has ended). I find the edits to WP:MOSDATE made by SlimVirgin, that were against what was consensus. These edits were reverted by another editor. I went to other policy pages, only to see that she has edited them to say what she told in the FAC, something that didn't exist before. I also her edits to WP:LEAD. I noted these in the talk page (linked by her), and I accept that I was not happy with the way she changed them. I request those who read this to go through the actual conversations/discussion that happened, in the chronological sequence they did. I agree that my tone of "requesting" change to citation template was rigid. But I have noted in this diff that my oppose wasn't for that. If any "presumption of bad faith" (quoting SV) came, it was because of my unawareness that the article had passed FAC. So what I have learnt from this? In addition to what has been discussed above, I have learnt to be myself. Surprising? If this incident would have occured even a week later, way too may editors would have presumed that I have been "acting nice" just to get the tools. Now at least I am sure nobody would accuse me of that, whether this RfA passes or not. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment While I respect the opinion raised by SlimVirgin, I fail to see how this is a behavioural issue (or any systemic issue) with Ambuj. I view it as a disagreement with respect to decision making around one FA's candidacy. Ambuj has been a forceful contributor to WP:FAC, has brought IIT to FA, and has contributed significantly to many other FA's. I think he is more than aware of what is required for FA, and respects the amount of time and effort that editors put into making an article of FA calibre -- Samir धर्म 01:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Opposes like this would require some clarification on my part. First of all, I encourage those assessing the claims to go through what happened before this oppose (by the diffs provided by SlimVirgin). In the FAC, I first made a suggestion (by saying "comment") to use citation templates. I made other suggestions for improvement to the article. SV replied that the citation templates are a nuisance. By the next time I replied, I also noticed other issues with the article, i.e. non-wikilinking of dates and not providing last access date for web references. I noted my views on the citation templates, and not to confuse that this is not something I oppose, I made a note that my objections are not because of them. In the third edit, I again confirmed that I am not opposing because of it. I also clarified some of the doubts raised by SV in her previous reply. Fast forward to next day when the article was promoted, but I didn't knew of (there are no templates at the top and bottom saying the discussion has ended). I find the edits to WP:MOSDATE made by SlimVirgin, that were against what was consensus. These edits were reverted by another editor. I went to other policy pages, only to see that she has edited them to say what she told in the FAC, something that didn't exist before. I also her edits to WP:LEAD. I noted these in the talk page (linked by her), and I accept that I was not happy with the way she changed them. I request those who read this to go through the actual conversations/discussion that happened, in the chronological sequence they did. I agree that my tone of "requesting" change to citation template was rigid. But I have noted in this diff that my oppose wasn't for that. If any "presumption of bad faith" (quoting SV) came, it was because of my unawareness that the article had passed FAC. So what I have learnt from this? In addition to what has been discussed above, I have learnt to be myself. Surprising? If this incident would have occured even a week later, way too may editors would have presumed that I have been "acting nice" just to get the tools. Now at least I am sure nobody would accuse me of that, whether this RfA passes or not. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose for the reasons listed above. I realize this is also just a protest vote, but Ambuj's behavior in regards to the Featured Article (which I also did a fair bit of work on) shocked me. Ambuj seems to think that the purpose of Misplaced Pages is to promote conformity and rigid enforcement of template use, rather than the production of great encyclopedia articles. Jayjg 16:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose based on the immature and very non-admin-like behavior described and linked above. --MPerel 17:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - evidence is that he's a prolific editor with a helpful attitude, but we already have enough admins with vaguely deletionist tendencies and too much confidence in their own judgment. There are many good, and even great, editors who don't make good admins, and this is one of them. --Leifern 17:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SV - not ready for adminship. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin. I'm a perfectionist myself, and I understand this attitude, bur an admin must be able yo distinguish between what is critical and what is not. Many featured articles do not use citation templates, but that is not a sufficient reason for their being stripped of the featured status. Pecher 19:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin. I hope that these protest votes will help the user see that while formatting has an important place in the constructive article, it certainly shouldn't become an obstacle to the production of quality content. Tewfik 20:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. FeloniousMonk 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per slimvirgin. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 20:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose because of concerns raised above. AnnH ♫ 20:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose While this person seems pretty good at being an editor, I think he would make an awful sysop. I have seen what happens when editors who show such intransigence and spitefullness become administrators. I feel that his response to Slimvirgin's vote proved exactly what she was saying- That he voted against featured status of a good article for unclear reasons that seemed to be based upon tiny perceived infractions of wikipedia policy, he has also shown a remarkable disdain for good faith. If this is the behavior of someone who is up for adminship then I don't want to imagine what might occur when he (as an administrator) is involved in a content dispute with an editor who does not have such privledges. However, I do not want to lose a potentially useful editor from the project, I just don't want to see him "succumb" to adminship.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 21:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Rather mild but stern oppose on the basis that from what I've seen, this otherwise relatively productive and useful editor's grasp of English is, in my judgment, insufficient to qualify for adminship on en: at this time. I think the objections on the basis of his "odd" behavior on FAC are ... well, well-founded but probably not a sign that the guy's gonna turn into a vandal with a few extra tools. That said, I'm still going to have to respectfully oppose. Admins on en: should have an excellent grasp of English, as well as good performance, and I see grammatical, syntax and spelling errors in practically every one of his edits. Tomer 22:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please cite diffs, Tom. One of the reasons why I nominated Ambuj was his exceptional use of English -- Samir धर्म 01:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't bothered with an exhaustive search, but "usability of the article while interacting with machines" might be an example of what's being discussed. Kirill Lokshin 01:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't have time to do it tonight, Samir, but if you really want me to catalog all the problems, I can do so. Like I said tho, there are problems in every single edit I viewed. Cheers, Tomer 05:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't bothered with an exhaustive search, but "usability of the article while interacting with machines" might be an example of what's being discussed. Kirill Lokshin 01:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please cite diffs, Tom. One of the reasons why I nominated Ambuj was his exceptional use of English -- Samir धर्म 01:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose as per Tom. I hope I'm not being insensitive, but clear communication is an essential tool; an admin must have this at his disposal. IronDuke 00:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per Tomer. -- Ynhockey 00:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per Slimvirgin. JoshuaZ 01:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin. Kirill Lokshin 01:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin and Tomer. Aren't I Obscure? 02:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin. Evolver of Borg 04:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose his nomination for adminship not because he recently supported an article for deletion (In debate on Misplaced Pages:Article for deletion/Justice Kan Singh Parihar), but due to his immature approach and lack of ability to judge the facts on its merit. Recently, he altered list of notable people from Jodhpur without having any knowledge of their notability. His act is revengeful and amounts to vandalism. It is apparent that he is doing this because I totally disagreed with his views on the above said article for deletion. A person for WP adminship should have an unbiased thinking and maturity. His adminship should not be solely based on the number of people supporting him. It might be misleading.(Jodmar 05:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC))
- is the second link that you have provided. Could you please explain what is wrong with this edit ? The third link is just a pointer to a particular version. Why is that significant ? Tintin (talk) 06:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Um... He just removed their titles. I fail to see how this "amounts to vandalism". And why do you think he is doing this because of you? Grandmasterka 06:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- is the second link that you have provided. Could you please explain what is wrong with this edit ? The third link is just a pointer to a particular version. Why is that significant ? Tintin (talk) 06:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose After reviewing the diffs provided per SV. Also concern that nom is not the right person to deal with ArbCom enforcement, a stated interest. --FloNight 10:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per SlimVirgin.--Aldux 11:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral
- Neutral. I'd like to see a little more time on the 'pedia. 1ne 22:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral per 1ne.--Jusjih 03:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral per 1ne. Roy A.A. 14:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral per some concerns above. --CharlotteWebb 19:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral per concerns that were raised. I still think the user is a good editor, but adminiship requires diplomatic skills as well. -- Avi 21:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comments
- See Ambuj.Saxena's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool.
- Edit count using Interiot's Tool 2 αChimp 07:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Username Ambuj.Saxena Total edits 5787 Distinct pages edited 2754 Average edits/page 2.101 First edit 14:05, February 5, 2006 (main) 2739 Talk 379 User 314 User talk 830 Image 62 Image talk 11 MediaWiki talk 3 Template 86 Template talk 18 Help 1 Category 7 Category talk 6 Misplaced Pages 617 Misplaced Pages talk 93 Portal 597 Portal talk 24
- Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
- 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.
- A: As an admin, I see myself significantly contributing to three areas. They are vandal-fighting, speedy deletions, and closing XfD debates, though I will be a little cautious at first. As someone who has had to handle many page moves (though some of them were a result of my own fault), I will occasionally help with requested page moves requiring admin intervention. Later, with more time and experience, I see no reasons for not contributing to other areas I currently have little experience in, which include blocking users for 3RR abuse, ArbCom enforcement and dealing with complex vandalism.
- 2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
- A: The articles that I have substantially contributed to are listed on this page. I edit articles across the spectrum: From serious issues like 2006 Jama Masjid explosions to even Why did the chicken cross the road?; from Digvijay Singh to Mrs. World. I am particularly pleased with my contributions to Indian Institutes of Technology article that I helped in reaching FA status. I am also pleased about Parrondo's Paradox article, for which, I received a personal thank you note from Dr. J. M. R. Parrondo. I am also pleased with my contributions to Portal:India, in which I have maintained the front page for the past few months. I am also pleased with my work on the three audio renderings of featured articles.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A: Starting chronologically, my first conflict was in my first couple of weeks at Misplaced Pages when at vandal patrolling, I removed an image from an article and put it for deletion over profanity issue. The editor was furious over me and wrote a long reply regarding non-censored nature of Misplaced Pages. Not convinced at the explaination, I asked for an admin's help, who sided with the editor and explained the Misplaced Pages policies to me. I learned from it and moved on. The second incident didn't take the magnitude of a conflict, but I am mentioning here as the editor concerned had mentioned it in his RfA. It was when I moved an article from the subject's nick-name to the real name according to the policies. The editor who created the article was working on it when the move happened, and strongly replied to my move. I explained to him the reasons for the move that convinced him. I am not sure if the editor mentioned it in his RfA because he got an "edit conflict" when he had tried to save the page over the moved page. The third incident happened when during the course of making the IIT article featured, one of the editors told me that I am taking the POV issue too much seriously removing even the slightest hint of POV from the article (some of which were added by him). He preferred the article to be "overall neutral", not necessarily in every sentence. I had to convince him that my actions were required to bring the article to FA citing the objections raised at the Peer-review and FAC, when even at a lot of places, I had to remove paragraphs written by me. In all these cases, I believe that I remained civil and interacted in a manner to diffuse the situation quickly, not letting the debate getting heated up. I have never been stressed in my Wiki-life and I often end up feeling more relaxed than I was when I started editing. Given these observations and based on my experience in handling vandals, I am certain that I will be able to handle any possibly stressing issues coolly, and without abusing my powers.
- 4. from user:ShortJason. Why do you have so many user namespace edits?
- A: I was once myself startled to find so many user-space edits. After going through my contribution history, I found the reason. This is because many of these edits were vandal reversions (on my own page and other users' page), edits to sandbox (I prefer to write article in my sandbox before posting in article space. In fact, my sandbox is my fifth most edited page of all wikipedia pages.) and many a times helping other users with their user pages. For example, I recently helped User:Kevin Breitenstein in redesigning his userpage (see this). I also keep a toolbox page, a to-do list, and keep updating it for my needs. There are other reasons also, including this kind of edits. Before I close, I also remember having a userpage that I love maintaining. Please go through my userspace contribs to see the exact reasons.
Optional question from Lar:
- 5.(one big long question about categories of admins and your thoughts about them) Are you aware of the notion of adminstrators saying they're willing to be voluntarily recalled or reviewed, by a less onerous process than a new RfA (or worse) arbComm action? What do you think of the idea? Would you consider placing yourself (placement should only be done by oneself) in such a category if you were made an admin? Why or why not? Are you aware of the notion of Rouge admins? What do you think of the notion? Do you see it as purely humorous or do you see what it's driving at? Would you consider allowing yourself to by placed in this category (placement is traditionally done by someone else) if you were made an admin? Why or why not? (note: both these categories have some controversy attached to them, for different reasons, and note also, although I am a policy and process wonk I am in both categories, and finally, note that there is no wrong answer here...)
- A: Yes, I am aware of the willingness to voluntary recalling process, and as I said in the RfA talk page when this issue came up, I am against placing myself in it for strong reasons. In Misplaced Pages, when you try to do the right work, you often make enemies. To add myself to that category would be allowing myself to betray the confidence the community has given me (if this RfA passes). Instead, I hold different criteria. If either my nominator, or eight people who have supported me now, ask me to go through the process, I would be willing to go through it. Even this, I presume would be a far-fetched thing to do. Instead, if someone comes up and tells me that I am doing bad work as an admin, i will find out what the problem is, and if it is echoed by many good faith editors, then I will try to change myself. If I find that it goes against my principles to change that aspect of my personality, then I will consider voluntarily giving up that specific admin power. For example, if people feel that I am wrongly blocking users, and I feel that I have been right, then I will give up using blocking feature. I will continue to do use the other buttons as and when I feel justified. So, re-phrasing and re-answering the question, I will add myself to Category:Wikipedians who aren't dickheads. I have heard about Rouge admins ever since my first week on Misplaced Pages. But I simply don't fit the bill. Misplaced Pages needs Rouge admins (not literally, but the work they ACTUALLY do), but I am simply not the kind of person. I would be amused if someone places me in that category, but it is a possibility that I don't want to think of.
- Allow me to paraphrase the first part and tell me if I got it right... you're saying you're not averse to the notion of some accountability, short of being hauled in front of arbcomm involuntarily, but you'd use some other mechanism (your nom, or 8 supporters, rather than 6 random editors in good standing) rather than the way the current suggested criteria for initiating it are structured? I see that as perfectly compatible with the notion!!! The criteria for recall are whatever you say they are, as long as they're reasonable, because it's a voluntary thing after all... I also like the idea of voluntarily recusing yourself from certain classes of actions until you're convinced that issues raised have been addressed... Thanks for giving this matter some thought and good luck with your candidacy. ++Lar: t/c 19:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- A: Yes, I am aware of the willingness to voluntary recalling process, and as I said in the RfA talk page when this issue came up, I am against placing myself in it for strong reasons. In Misplaced Pages, when you try to do the right work, you often make enemies. To add myself to that category would be allowing myself to betray the confidence the community has given me (if this RfA passes). Instead, I hold different criteria. If either my nominator, or eight people who have supported me now, ask me to go through the process, I would be willing to go through it. Even this, I presume would be a far-fetched thing to do. Instead, if someone comes up and tells me that I am doing bad work as an admin, i will find out what the problem is, and if it is echoed by many good faith editors, then I will try to change myself. If I find that it goes against my principles to change that aspect of my personality, then I will consider voluntarily giving up that specific admin power. For example, if people feel that I am wrongly blocking users, and I feel that I have been right, then I will give up using blocking feature. I will continue to do use the other buttons as and when I feel justified. So, re-phrasing and re-answering the question, I will add myself to Category:Wikipedians who aren't dickheads. I have heard about Rouge admins ever since my first week on Misplaced Pages. But I simply don't fit the bill. Misplaced Pages needs Rouge admins (not literally, but the work they ACTUALLY do), but I am simply not the kind of person. I would be amused if someone places me in that category, but it is a possibility that I don't want to think of.