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==Why fixing vandalism is important== ==Why fixing vandalism is important==
Because if not fixed immediately, '''it may never be fixed.''' are fixes of vandalism I made to the article of a prominent theatrical producer. The vandalism was committed in February 2014. I caught it, purely by accident, 10 months later. Because if not fixed immediately, '''it may never be fixed.''' are fixes of vandalism I made to the article of a prominent theatrical producer. The vandalism was committed in February 2014. I caught it, purely by accident, 10 months later.

==Why 'driving them underground' is a nonsense argument: a case study==
The "paid editing" imbroglio has been dormant for most of the past few months, but while it's still fresh in my mind I wanted to address one of the arguments that one hears frequently: which is that stiff action against paid editors will "drive them underground."

This argument reeks of the "bigotry of low expectations." It implies, and in fact pretty much says flat-out, that paid editors are sociopaths who will violate a website's terms of use, and that paid editing as a kind of ideological or sociological phenomenon, like drug abuse. In fact paid editors are (with a few exceptions) rational actors driven by commercial considerations. They are not sociopaths or scalawags. Take strong action against paid editors, I have maintained, and the most likely result is that they will go away.

With the passage of time, a good illustrative example has come to mind. To avoid naming specific companies and editors, let's call it the ] (h/t to ]).

For a period of several months, editors openly affiliated with the Acme Finance Company had been plaguing the article about Acme: intimidating non-Acme editors, engaging in rampant sockpuppeting, dominating ], and generally making a nuisance of themselves. Efforts by non-Acme editors to rectify the situation ran into a wall of abuse and stonewalling, which was a situation of serious public concern because Acme had some serious regulatory issues that the Acme editors, and their socks, had managed to banish from the article.

The issue finally came up at ]. This time, in the face of clear evidence of sockpuppeting, the Acme editors were indefinitely blocked. One editor, an administrator I'm sorry to say, argued strenuously against taking action, on the grounds that Acme editors would be "driven underground." But even he or she gave up, and the editors were indefinitely blocked.

It's been five months since the events I've described above happened. And what has occurred. Has there been any sockpuppeting of any kind in the article? Any indication that the Acme editors have been "driven underground"? The answer:''' No.''' In fact, the article in question has been absolutely quiet since the socks, including the declared Acme editor, were indefinitely blocked.

What this indicates to me is that Acme officials decided that fighting this out in the pages of Misplaced Pages was just not worth the trouble. Misplaced Pages had been a "soft target" but no longer was. So they didn't "go underground" and continue a fruitless battle that might have resulted in untoward publicity. They just went away.


==Awards & recognition== ==Awards & recognition==

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About me
This user is a recipient of the Editor of the Week award.
This editor is a Veteran Editor II and is entitled to display this Bronze Editor Star.
This user has helped promote 4 good articles on Misplaced Pages.
This user has written or expanded 9 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page.
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QThis user used to have access to Questia through The Misplaced Pages Library.
?This user believes
that common sense is
an uncommon commodity.


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Articles I've created or have made substantial contributions

I am also active in suggesting articles for deletion and, when my eyes can stand it, vandal-fighting. I think that de-crapifying Misplaced Pages is at least as important as adding content. Misplaced Pages is a hotbed of fancruft, self-written articles by employees of third-rate companies, and overemphasis on subjects plucked off the Internet. It greatly underemphasizes subjects of great importance that don't have a fan base or following.

To do list

Useful links

But can it core a apple?
  • Special:Getting Started. It is a list of articles in obvious trouble that even beginners can fix. I've found some instances where the articles are so bad they really shouldn't be in Misplaced Pages at all. Editing these articles results in a tag branding the editor as a "beginner getting started," but you can avoid that by copying and pasting the URL of the articles listed there.
  • "STiki", a really great counter-vandalism tool, crated by the awesome, brilliant software maven Andrew G. West. Every Wikipedian should spend a few minutes a day using this.


Why fixing vandalism is important

Because if not fixed immediately, it may never be fixed. Here are fixes of vandalism I made to the article of a prominent theatrical producer. The vandalism was committed in February 2014. I caught it, purely by accident, 10 months later.

Awards & recognition

Teahouse First Birthday Badge Teahouse First Birthday Badge
Awarded to everyone who participated in the Misplaced Pages Teahouse during its first year!

To celebrate the many hosts and guests we've met and the nearly 2000 questions asked and answered during this excellent first year, we're giving out this tasty cupcake badge.

Earn more badges at: Teahouse Badges
--Ocaasi and the rest of the Teahouse Team 22:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


First place winner of the 2013 Misplaced Pages apple coring contest!!!
It is so good to work with you at the BP article. I hope you stick around. Gandydancer (talk) 15:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


Mind the Gap Award
For saying the right thing, at the right time, in the right place, to the right people. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar

Congratulations, Coretheapple! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contributions to Misplaced Pages at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and Pratyya 05:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


The Original Barnstar
An old school barnstar for an old school defense of old school values at Jimbotalk. Don't be afraid to think outside of the box, sometimes the most effective course of action is an enforceable compromise. best, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 22:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


understanding for the slippery slope
Thank you, gnome with understanding for "consensus", "common sense" and the slippery slope, for removing puffery statements, moving pages, fighting vandalism, standing up in kindness, and for expressing your regrets, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


Updated DYK queryOn 12 February 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joan McCracken, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Broadway actress Joan McCracken was one of the models for Truman Capote's fictional Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joan McCracken. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 19 February 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michael Kidd, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that choreographer Michael Kidd initially rejected working on his most famous movie, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954), saying "We'd be laughed out of the house"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Kidd. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.


The Editor's Barnstar
Your common sense approach is refreshing. Keep up the good work!!! Atsme (talk) 23:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


The Bronze STiki Barnstar of Merit
Congratulations, Coretheapple! You're receiving this barnstar of merit because you recently crossed the 5,000 classification threshold using STiki.

We thank you both for your contributions to Misplaced Pages at-large and your use of the tool.

We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


Updated DYK queryOn 2 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article LeRoy Prinz, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that LeRoy Prinz, who staged dances in dozens of Hollywood movies in the 1930s and 1940s, was more an "idea man" than a choreographer, using simple steps and dance routines? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/LeRoy Prinz. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 16 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1963 Chualar bus crash, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a 1963 bus crash in California's Salinas Valley, which claimed the lives of 32 Mexican farmworkers, highlighted unsafe conditions and helped to spur the end of a 20-year-old guest worker program? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1963 Chualar bus crash. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 30 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Johnny Broderick, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Johnny Broderick, a New York City detective for 24 years, inspired the Broadway expression "to broderick", meaning "to knock out with one blow"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Broderick. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 19 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article All the Way (play), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lyndon Johnson's biographer Robert Caro refused to meet Bryan Cranston, who plays Johnson in a new Broadway show, saying it might blur his image of the former president? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/All the Way (play). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Thank you for your help at WP:ANI and for helping me get a sense of perspective on my talkpage. The vitriol shocked me for a second. Rest assured, I will continue to go and improve the encyclopedia. :) Origamite 00:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)


The Anti-Flame Barnstar
Your week seems to have been just lousy with acrimony and bad energy involving tendentious editors, seemingly as a consequence, at least in part, of dedicated efforts at WP:ANI. For keeping your calm and staying on point, I offer you one of the most well-earned barnstars I've yet awarded. Made from asbestos, same as your hide. ;) Snow (talk) 10:20, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for "old school values and a common sense approach focused on what will help Misplaced Pages survive the long haul". Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Misplaced Pages Editor Retention Project)


The Civility Barnstar
You are awesome! Atlantictire (talk) 19:39, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


Updated DYK queryOn 29 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly spent over 20,000 hours sitting on flagpoles in the 1920s and 1930s, including hundreds of hours in the rain and subfreezing weather? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alvin "Shipwreck" Kelly. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 22 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article German Concentration Camps Factual Survey, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Alfred Hitchcock was an advisor on the official British documentary German Concentration Camps Factual Survey? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/German Concentration Camps Factual Survey. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


Updated DYK queryOn 22 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article My Italian Secret: The Forgotten Heroes, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a new documentary recounts how Italian cycling champion Gino Bartali risked his life to rescue hundreds of Jews and partisans during World War II, but never spoke of it until late in life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/My Italian Secret: The Forgotten Heroes. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.


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