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Removing Andi James's name

Being a complete novice at this i can see the following problems

1. The article itself has become suspended with no 1 allowed to add too it or allowed to edit their name for example i know the record holder after speaking to him does not wish his name to be printed for example but wikipedia will not let him delete his own name how fair is that.?

2. I planned my own attempt and it was quite good but if i cant get it published in a book or a newspaper i cant publish it on wikipedia for example as it is not a veriable source despite the internet being 1 of the most veriable sources they are.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobnobbiscuits (talk • contribs) 20:16, 26 November 2010

Misplaced Pages just echoes what's been written in reliable sources - if someone undertook a world record in their own name, and it was reported in the press and the Guinness Book of Records under that name, then they can expect to attract attention from it. Is there some angle I'm missing as to why Mr James wants his name removed from Misplaced Pages? Is the GBR entry factually incorrect?

And yes, if no reliable sources have covered your own world record attempt, then Misplaced Pages shouldn't mention it - see WP:RS for how this works, and why it's important. (Although a web page is easily verifiable, it's not necessarily reliable - the word of the Guinness Book of Records is worth a lot more than the word of a personal website.) --McGeddon (talk) 10:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

3. MR JAMES repeatedly asked for his own name to be taken off the website after the former history was taken out he believed no former history no current history should be displayed in his own words.Whilst it is diffucult to find each GUINNESS BOOK from years past and photocopy front page page which record is on and the quotations written about it he believed this was possible for a WIKIPEDIA EDITOR to ask for help or actually do it.On the subject is that acceptable a photocopy or link to the actual book and page record on.?and also i have found a link to a former record can someone see if acceptable under WIKIPDEIA guidelines.? http://212.148.84.116/buzzword2/pdf/dec08.pdfHobnobbiscuits (talk) 12:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure, books are fine as sources: here's a guideline for using them as references. Feel free to quote any past winners which Guinness have covered, and let me know if you need any help. --McGeddon (talk) 12:54, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

If books are fine as sources, then why can we not have the list of previous record times (which used to constitute a major part of this page) back into this wikipedia article? Chase Ladies! kept taking it down as 'unreferenced' ... Yet the list of times were researched by Jack Welsby (a former record holder), who went to the British Library, and painstakingly trawled through every old edition of the Guinness Book of Records, making a note of all the times. He then supplied the times to me (also a former holder of this record) which I published on my own personal website, and the creator of this page in WikiPedia then took the times from that page. Discuss... thx. --Geofftech (talk) 21:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Geoff, do you have the detailed references (page and year) for each of the historic records? If so, then those entries would all be supported by citations of published references. --Jbom1 (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Looking at an old version of the page, it explicitly stated that only the 2009 record was taken from the Guinness Book of Records ("Time in bold represents current official Guinness World Record" and only one time is bolded). There wasn't any indication that the older records were taken from there, so clearly something's been lost along the way. Feel free to re-add any records which appeared in the GBR - the year alone is enough, you don't need to drag out the page numbers again. --McGeddon (talk) 14:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Actually buying the 1993 Guinness Book of Records on page 125 the written text is this

TRAVELLING The record for touring the 272 stations of the London Underground,including Heathrow Terminal 4 station which opened on 12 Apr 1986, is 18 hr 41 min 41 sec set by a team of five:Robert A.Robinson, Peter D. Robinson, Timothy J. Robinson, Timothy J. Clark and Richard J. Harris, on 30 Jul 1986.Hobnobbiscuits (talk) 19:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Added, and sourced :-) Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Does this mean that you are happy if we find more resources from the Guinness book of records we can add them and can someone please see if my link to MR JAMES 1st record works it is important to him to have that record on file.Hobnobbiscuits (talk) 00:39, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Despite being a different class attempt where private transport was used 1977 Guinness Book of Records states this The record for touring the then 277 stations was 15hours precisely by Leslie R. V. Burwood on 3 Sept. 1968.Hobnobbiscuits (talk) 07:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages again is denying the truth to this page every individual has a right to anonymity this is why wikipedia gets no funding anymore no rights to the individual they might be reliably scourced so is the comment either allow the comment and scource it which u can and I have repeadtly told u that or legal action will go ahead u don't want the threat then do what I have told u to do no bullshit either scource the comment or blank the name stop deleting the truth and keep the scource or remove my name and stop deleting this as this is also legal action stop denying the truth to people people take note screw Misplaced Pages spread the word stop them. Misplaced Pages is denying the truth here they are stopping ur rights as individuals every person that sees this rise up stop Misplaced Pages guidelines everyperson has reight not to be published they want war this is it.

New World Record

On Friday 27 May 2011, Steve Wilson and 1 other individual set a new record of 16 hours, 29 minutes and 13 seconds beating the previous time by 44 seconds.

It is confirmed on the Guiness details pages for those with open records but has not yet filtered through to the main website. It will appear here http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-5000/fastest-time-to-travel-to-all-london-underground-stations/ in due course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Molecrochip (talk • contribs) 09:29, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

According to comments on the site, the other individual is Andi James - unfortunately, we'll have to keep it as Mark Gawley until the GWR site updates. Thanks for the notice, I'll keep checking over the next few days. The Cavalry (Message me) 03:13, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

The Guinness site will never update the information too much in love with Marc Gawley time despite me asking them many times to update their website i have given up!And the person who put dubious discuss reveal yourself and message me if you doubt it!

(In)Complete Table?

I don't see the point of only listing some of the records. Better to list them all and the current record of 16:29:13 above all else. Spa-Franks (talk) 21:56, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I assume we're only listing the records that can be sourced, and/or that the record was only actually broken periodically. --McGeddon (talk) 17:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Neil Andrew Hall record?

The text below was on teh wikipedia page however Neil Andrew Hall's records is unverified and until GWR do confrim it on their website, it shouldn't appear on the actual page.

James and Wilson's record only last a week before Neil Andrew Hall completed on the 3rd June 2011 with a time of 16 hours, 11 minutes and 30 seconds. Neil Andrew Hall has comfirmed he has a certificate from Guinness comfirming his feet, however it has not been seen by anybody else in person, or has the Guinness website been updated.

Our Claim number 294734 was verified by Guinness World Records on August 27th 2011 3 months after the attempt itself if Mr Neil Andrew Hall did an attempt only a week later then he should have had verification months ago perhaps can print his own claim number here and an official Guinness representive can be contacted. Molecrochip (talk) 13:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

1960 Attempt

Someone has put in an entry for March 1960 with the name s George Hurst & Jane Barwick. And yet the Guinness Book of Records they reference is the 10th/1962 edition, and comes out of order being BEFORE the 8th - doesn't make sense.

Geofftech (talk) 19:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Do all interchanges?

Is there a variant whereby one does every possible combination arriving from both directions and departing in both directions on all lines calling on each interchange station? I would assume only one set of transfers would be needed in the case of trains of different lines utilising the same platform, and thus this concept would exclude most trivial possibilities all around the Circle Line. Also, only one passage in each direction through a connecting pedestrian walkway (i.e., stations with dumbell-shaped interchange symbols on the tube map) should suffice. This challenge would be much more time-consuming because even a simple "crossing" (e.g., Bond Street) would require 8 passes. Casey (talk) 19:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Dubious

An IP editor claimed that Daniel McGee, Marc Gawley and Jeff Controller set a 2012 world record that beat the 2011 record by one second, sourced to a broken URL. Today, a new editor claimed that the same three participants broke the world record in 1997, sourced to the 2000 Guinness Book of Records. I'll assume good faith, but have flagged this as dubious until someone can verify the offline source. --McGeddon (talk) 09:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

You dont even need to flag this as dubious because its absolute bullshit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.35.176 (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for a second opinion. I've cut it. --McGeddon (talk) 11:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

What counts as have "done" a station

Do you simply have to step foot on the platform (i.e. could you hop off and back on the same train) or do you need to cross the ticket barriers or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.13.140 (talk) 08:33, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

hop off and get back on saem train counts as having visited the station. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.144 (talk) 11:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

You need not leave the train. Perhaps there should be some basic rules in this? Spa-Franks (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Labyrinth

Would it be appropriate to have a section that explains how Mark Wallinger's Labyrinth artwork? That artwork numbers all the London Underground stations in the same order as the Tube Challenge route completed by Andi James, Martin Hazel and Steve Wilson on 14 December 2009, so I think that it is a cultural reference to the Tube Challenge. Big Mac (talk) 19:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

It's actually already mentioned in the "History" section. --McGeddon (talk) 19:58, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2015

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Please change the first paragraph to include the exact World Record Title wording "Fastest time to travel to all London Underground stations"

Fifteen Forty-five Thirty-eight (talk) 21:31, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

 Not done - you need to give "a complete and specific description of the request". I'm not sure what to add, because it seems redundant to me when the opening sentence already says the same thing in slightly different words ("attempt to visit all the stations on the London Underground network in the fastest time possible"). --McGeddon (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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