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A barnstar for you!

	The Arbitrator's Barnstar
	Thank you for all your work on the Arbitration Committee. Go Phightins! 01:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much :-) Hersfold 01:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Question

Normally, I would say that it is no one's business what a person does or does not do. However, I wonder if you can provide a bit more background based on the facts in this case. You ran for the Committee, then resigned, which was fine. Then you ran a second time and won again, and in that campaign you were repeatedly asked about whether you would resign again and you strongly indicated you would not. Given this pattern, I feel justified in respectfully asking why you have been through a run-resign-run-resign sequence? —Jeff 02:00, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

He's unlikely to answer that one right now. You might save it for if he returns and runs again.--v/r - TP 02:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, TParis, but I'll answer it.

Jeff, I'd rather you had logged in to the account I assume you have rather ask this while hiding behind an IP address, but to answer your question, this was not planned. I had promised myself on reelection to sit through this term no matter what happened, out of respect for those who elected me if nothing else. However, at this point, being on the Committee is far too stressful for it to be practical or healthy for me to continue doing in my free time. That aside, the current incident involving Cla68 and Kevin is continuing, with several more people having been outed since Cla68's initial attempt to out Russavia. Given the increased risk of being harassed and outed inherent in arbitrator-ship, it seems likely that that net will expand to include one or more arbitrators before too much longer, if action is not taken to stop it. I value my privacy and personal safety, and have an obligation to protect my family as well.

So yes, I have broken a campaign promise. It certainly wasn't my intention to do so, but under the circumstances I hope that the majority of the community will understand. If I do return to regular editing at some point in the future, you needn't worry; I do not believe I would run for a seat on the Committee ever again, unless some serious changes are made in how the community treats what are supposed to be among the most trusted and respected of their colleagues. Hersfold 02:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough, thanks for the reply. I suppose the gist of this is that you seem to indicate that your family would not be safe if your real name was known. It is hard for me to imagine a situation in which that would be true. However, you started participating here with an implied promise of anonymity, and due to the good work of the people at WO and elsewhere, that is no longer a probable outcome, so that is an understandable reason to leave. Take care, —Jeff 03:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)~

I sympathise, and it's deeply regrettable that vindictive individuals have driven you to this. My best wishes for your future endeavours. Prioryman (talk) 08:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I agree with Prioryman here, wholeheartedly. It's disgusting, and IMHO actionable, to violate or threaten to violate the privacy of individuals who choose to edit responsibly with a pseudonym. Hersfold, I respect your decision to step back, but I hope you can find a way to keep a hand in with editing and article improvement, even if you just make a fresh start. --Lexein (talk) 14:44, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Keep your head up

		The Original Barnstar
		For your intelligent, communicative, and honest work as lead ArbCommer in the Richard Norton case. While I do not agree with the ultimate remedy, I thank you for your excellent work. Carrite (talk) 02:56, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Carrite. Sorry things didn't come out as you'd hoped (I'm guessing the topic ban?) but I think this was one of our better decisions, if I may say so myself. :-) I'm rather confident it'll work out pretty well. Hersfold 03:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

• Hersfold, much respect. I couldn't have resigned, cause I couldn't have run for that job in the first place. What were you thinking--there'd be no drama?!? All the best, Drmies (talk) 04:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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		The Special Barnstar
		Oh Hersfold, so so sad to see. Thank you for all your work on Misplaced Pages over the years. You will be greatly missed! KTC (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I'm sorry to see you go. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hope to see you back someday - if not here, then maybe at another Wikimedia project. Thanks for your service. --Rschen7754 09:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully your enjoyment will return - permissions or no you're an asset to the project and will be missed. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I just want to give you my best wishes too. Thanks for everything you have been doing! --Tryptofish (talk) 19:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Wishing you the best

Hi Hersfold. I was saddened to see your resignation and was hoping to offer a few kind words before anything was done, but I see over at m:srp it's too late. Being an Arbitrator is the most difficult position one could volunteer for on Misplaced Pages and all you get in return is grief. This is a sad fact of the Misplaced Pages of today. I will say that I'm very thankful that you and other people are willing to help in this area because the alternative would be chaos. I'm sad to see it's had such a negative impact on your time here and hope that you'll try to remember some of the more pleasant experiences. As other's have said above, there are a lot of other projects under the WMF umbrella that could use an experienced person. I hope you'll consider volunteering at one of the more quiet areas. Thanks for all the help you've provided to the project over the years. Wishing you well. 64.40.54.205 (talk) 10:24, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

• Never mind the silly hats on a volunteer internet project, I'm sorry to see you so worried and bothered. I hope that you can find some peace. That there are many, many people here who respect and admire you is easy enough to prove by flitting through some old election pages. --Dweller (talk) 13:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
• NB I have also thanked you for your service as a Bureaucrat here --Dweller (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your efforts here at Misplaced Pages. It's very shocking to hear that you are leaving us and I hope you consider returning soon. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 15:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Draw dropping

But at the same time, very understandable. I don't have answers that will save the day and stop all the active hostility to Arb com....but I am trying to find ways to help the community along with a handful of others editors. I kinda understand where the committee is coming from on a number of major issues. It has taken some time, but I believe Arb Com is too overworked, too understaffed (although a lot of editors would disagree with that, I suppose) and burned at both ends with people not trying to sort things out themselves. We simply do not have all the tools as editors to get over conflict. Should you find this interesting at all...I have started Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Conflict Resolution to attempt to address conduct and conflict issues that are more than simple incivility. Take some time to take a little break, experiance friends and family and if you would like, join us there if you wish.--Amadscientist (talk) 06:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For all of your hard work here, especially as an ArbCom member. The treatment which many Arbs (especially you) have been accorded is disgraceful and I rather wish the entire committee would resign and let all the naysayers try to run things. They'd be incomprehensibly worse than the current Arbs. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 21:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

(In response to all of the comments above) Thanks again, everyone. :-) Hersfold 16:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Bot needs to update page

Hi, can you have the bot update the count on this page? . I need to make sure I've not gone over the limit. Thanks much. Malke 2010 (talk) 01:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

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I came here to thank you for your work on the RAN case and especially for the way you commended the parties and participants for being relatively collegial. Like Carrite I wasnt happy with the outcome, but I dont think you could have played your part any better, and much of the credit for the smooth running of the case, especially towards the end, has to go to you as drafting arb. Gutting to see you've resigned. A huge loss to the project, but I guess the time you'll free up will make this a good move for you personally, and maybe it will help the project understand how unruly the "community" is becoming. Hope you like this kitten watching over your user page while you're semi retired. FeydHuxtable (talk) 09:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

A big thanks!

		A beer on me!
		On behalf of the community I thank you for all of your efforts at ArbCom to help this place to run right. I have had very few interactions with you but when I have I always found you to be calm, neutral and helpful. Thank you again for your service to the project!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Requesting mediation on the subject of User:Launchballer's signature.

Requesting mediation on the subject of User:Launchballer's signature. I see you've had discussions with this user before, and since the user informed me that he had previous issues and my issue was never brought up then, I have decided to research this. I've so far found you have had issues there before, and would like you to help mediate this to make sure the user understands there is no "grandfathering" as it were of signatures. You may find the current discussion here. Thank you. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 16:08, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Pauline Kael

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WikiProject AFC needs your help... again

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Re. Your bot's automated message on my talk page

I actually knew that I was exceeding the word limit at the Kiefer/Ironholds RFAR, but according to the top of the page, I can request permission for an extended posting of evidence should the need arise — and I've done so. Would contacting one of the arbitrators be a good idea under these circumstances? I imagine that it is exceedingly rare for the arbitrators to grant somebody permission to exceed the word limit, and I doubt they will make an exception in my case, but is it worth the time to even bring this up with them? Kurtis 00:28, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Image discussion at article 17 Mile Drive

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A brownie for you!

A lucky administrator like you deserves a delicious milk chocolate brownie courtesy of Duncan Hines! Windows55 (2) (talk) 00:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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HersfoldArbClerkBot

I posted earlier on User talk:Rannpháirtí anaithnid and couldn't help noticing (because it keeps popping up in my watchlist) that your bot is making the same post concerning the same issue over and over on the user's page every two hours. I presume that you did not intend the bot to do this. SpinningSpark 17:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

This may be due to a recent change user request. --Tóraí (talk) 08:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

October 2013 AFC Backlog elimination drive

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User:Hersfold/Lockbox

Hi Hersfold, this is just to let you know that I have unprotected User:Hersfold/Lockbox, as it didn't look like you were using it, and it was (presumably accidentally?) cascade-protecting {{ombox}} and {{tl}}. Have a look at the bottom of Misplaced Pages talk:Cascade-protected items for some more context. Best — Mr. Stradivarius 03:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Triple image

Template:Triple image has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Rezonansowy (talk • contribs) 17:22, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi Hersfold,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Heron Bommie SVII.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 21, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-12-21. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:07, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

AFC Backlog Drive

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello, Hersfold:

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Merry Christmas! :-)

Happy Yuletides!

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Hi Hersfold, Wishing you a very Happy and Wonderful Merry Christmas! Hope you are having a great time with family and friends :-) Best wishes. ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 21:57, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Vikramsingh

You blocked this user in 09 for socking, a new editor has turned up on the 2002 Gujarat violence and has copied and pasted a large section of text from other articles, a search of this text shows it is from the Godhra train burning article, but given the amount of revdels it is not possible to find who added it, however wikiblame (assuming I used it correctly) points the finger at Vikramsingh. As I have not found this content elsewhere I am thinking this new guy is a sock, but as I cannot see the exact edits made due to the revdels I am stuck? Darkness Shines (talk) 21:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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Happy bureaucratship anniversary!!

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Snazzy

Nice resume you've got there.

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