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*: This is absolutely ridiculous... this CfD has turned into a three ring circus, and again, while I understand the humour of the category, it is still a serious discussion and we are building a serious encyclopedia. ] has been the only one in favour of keeping the category to provide a reasoned explanation. If you wish to participate in the discussion, you're certainly welcome to and your reasoned input would be both helpful and appreciated, but mocking the CfD is not helpful in the least. ]] 14:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC) *: This is absolutely ridiculous... this CfD has turned into a three ring circus, and again, while I understand the humour of the category, it is still a serious discussion and we are building a serious encyclopedia. ] has been the only one in favour of keeping the category to provide a reasoned explanation. If you wish to participate in the discussion, you're certainly welcome to and your reasoned input would be both helpful and appreciated, but mocking the CfD is not helpful in the least. ]] 14:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
**Hoopydink, you're the one who hasn't provided a reasoned explanation for your point of view. All you've done is call this category "unencyclopedic" (a weasel word) and compared it to "Gangster Wikipedians" (a polemic attack, since members of that category claimed to be felons).--]]]]] 02:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC) **Hoopydink, you're the one who hasn't provided a reasoned explanation for your point of view. All you've done is call this category "unencyclopedic" (a weasel word) and compared it to "Gangster Wikipedians" (a polemic attack, since members of that category claimed to be felons).--]]]]] 02:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strongest Possible Delete'''. Stupid, useless, elitist "insider" humor. Non-encyclopedic.] 04:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


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Category:United States Merchant Marine Academy Notable Persons and Alumni

Category:United States Merchant Marine Academy Notable Persons and Alumni to Category:United States Merchant Marine Academy alumni Cat should be renamed for consistency with other subcats of Category:Alumni by university in the United States. --musicpvm 22:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Fictional unicorns

Category:Fictional unicorns into Category:unicorns

Category:Media groups of the University of Leicester

Category:Media groups of the University of Leicester (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Rouge admins

For the avoidance of doubt: this is not a joke category, it is a category of administrators who put policy first, and are prepared to take firm action to enforce it. Read between the lines of WP:ROUGE. Many of The Cabal are in this category, including Essjay, The Epopt, Mackensen and David Gerard. And indeed Cyde. Just zis Guy you know? 15:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, Per conversation with Cyde, I'm proposing the category for deletion as there is an inherent unencyclopedic nature to the category. hoopydink 18:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, the section could theoretically hold some sort of encyclopedic benefit such that it makes users realize that administrators aren't out to get them and that they have a sense of humor, too, but the category would be unnecessary. Perhaps if it was made into a Misplaced Pages namespace page that specifically outlines that administrators have a sense of humor too. Cowman109 18:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Cowman, and because I seriously doubt that if a user is so new that they believe admins are out to get them, they're probably not going to know about the Rogue Admins category. I didn't for a while; I initially thought it meant missing admins or something to that effect. Additionally, admins can express their sense of humor in other ways - putting themselves in the Crazy Wikipedians category, their user page, their signature, etc. Srose (talk) 18:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep; this category is very important to community-building, and has been around far too long for people to be deleting it withuot a reason other than "unencyclopedic", which is a weasel word. Rename Category:Misplaced Pages rouge admins to bring into closer conformity with other user cats. --M@rēino 19:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
    • To elaborate upon my original labelling of the category as being unencylcopedic (which I don't think is a weasel word at all), the category does not help build the encyclopedia in any way. It is not a tool for identifying administrators (there is already a category for that) and the date created has little to do with its encyclopedic nature. It is purely used for humourous purposes, and is very similar to the recently deleted "Gangster Wikipedians" category. I hope this clears things up a bit hoopydink 19:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Please elaborate: this is a category for Misplaced Pages administrators who put policy before process, and are firm in enforcing policy (made clear in WP:ROUGE). What are the similarities with Gangster Wikipeidans? Just zis Guy you know? 07:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Sure thing, I'd be happy to elaborate. From my interpretation of the two categories (that is, the deleted "Gangster Wikipedians" and the "Rouge Admins" categories), both exist(ed) for purely humourous reasons, and as such do not belong in the encyclopedia-building environment that is Misplaced Pages. I believe precedence has been set many times over, most recently with the "Gangster Wikipedians" category. I spoke to one of the administrators that deleted the "Gangster Wikipedians" category and he agreed that this category should be deleted as well. The "Rouge Admins" category says nothing about putting policy before process. In fact, it states; We promise to block IPs for 61 years, block and protect the talk pages of editors we edit war with, and unprotect the main page on April Fool's day. Again, while this is obviously a joke, it is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. It also has the potential to give off the wrong impression about administrators (not just the 38 in the category, but administrators at large) on Misplaced Pages for those who do not understand the underlying humour. hoopydink 19:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • delete if we can delete/merge Category:List of freshwater aquarium plant species, which from below seems to be on the chopping block, then I have no qualms deleting/merging this info. David D. (Talk) 20:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
    • See below. --M@rēino 21:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I just noticed that freshwater plants is a bit safer than i had suspected when I wrote the above. Nevertheless, aren't there rules such as 'wikipedia is not a playground' and such? We encourage people to be responsible with their user space but ignore admins messing around with the main space? I suspect that this could be seen as being a little bit hypocritical. What is a rouge admin anyway? Is it a play on words with rogue admin or a reference to blushing? David D. (Talk) 21:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
        • I just noticed this reference in the picture on the Rouge admin page, "Rouge admins: known either for their uncanny makeup skills or POV-pushers' inability to spell "rogue"". Obviously that answers my question above. I have to say, it was not obvious from scanning the page. David D. (Talk) 21:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I can assure you i was not voting to make a wikipoint. i was merely considering its neighbour in this CFD and reflecting that if we can can delete that (freshwater plants), but not rouge, then there is something wrong. As it happens, it seems that freshwater aquatic plants may get a reprieve. I'm still not convinced, however, that the joke category should be maintained. David D. (Talk) 22:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - I hate to appear humorless, but I think that joke categories are a little out of hand. It's not that I'm against having humor on Misplaced Pages; I just don't think that categories are a very good way of doing it (and to be honest, joke categories usually aren't all that funny). --Cswrye 22:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, all joke categories should be deleted. --musicpvm 22:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the rename is trying to accomplish either. Misplaced Pages Rouge Admins does not make the category any more encyclopedic with the Misplaced Pages prefix. I understand what you're saying Lar, but that category doesn't mention or even allude to the points you're making. If there was a renaming of the category and an explanation that this group of administrators would be happy and readily available to help users with controversial issues, then I'd support a category like this, as it would serve as a great reference for users needing help. Also, if being in the category is not a joke, then why is everything a joke on the category page? hoopydink 19:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per JzG. Rougely,  RasputinAXP  c 06:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or rename. We rouge admins will not be defeated! You suxx0r. —Nightstallion (?) 14:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
    This is absolutely ridiculous... this CfD has turned into a three ring circus, and again, while I understand the humour of the category, it is still a serious discussion and we are building a serious encyclopedia. Lar has been the only one in favour of keeping the category to provide a reasoned explanation. If you wish to participate in the discussion, you're certainly welcome to and your reasoned input would be both helpful and appreciated, but mocking the CfD is not helpful in the least. hoopydink 14:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Hoopydink, you're the one who hasn't provided a reasoned explanation for your point of view. All you've done is call this category "unencyclopedic" (a weasel word) and compared it to "Gangster Wikipedians" (a polemic attack, since members of that category claimed to be felons).--M@rēino 02:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strongest Possible Delete. Stupid, useless, elitist "insider" humor. Non-encyclopedic.Courtney Akins 04:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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Category:List of freshwater aquarium plant species

*Delete; merge members into Category:Aquatic plants. --M@rēino 17:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Rename per David D. --M@rēino 21:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:List of Disney anthology series episodes to Category:Disney anthology television series
Category:List Of Exile Creatures
Category:List of farms in Norway to Category:Farms in Norway
Category:List of farms in Oppland to Category:Farms in Oppland
Category:List of noted film director collaborations to Category:Lists of noted film director collaborations

Category:Piano rockers

Category:Piano rockers to Category:Rock pianists

Category:Print media in Belize

Merge into Category:Belizean media, see Category:Italian media or Category:American media for examples. -- ProveIt 15:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Incubator tests

Rename to Category:Wikimedia Incubator languages. -- ProveIt 14:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Artists by record label

The Triangle, North Carolina

Rename, "The Triangle" is a denonym, and as I have no problem with calling the metro that in the article, the category should be renamed to its formal name. Arual 12:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

What's Good For You

Former buildings and structures

Category:Notable aircraft to Category:Aircraft with historical significance

Any opinion on which of the three names would be 'better'? Vegaswikian 19:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that naming this category is not straightforward! Not all its members refer to specific or individual aircraft, so, given the current suggestions, I think I'd support Category:Aircraft of historical significance, but per the comments above, I'm not sold on it. Maybe something more effective might occur to me if/when I read a few more of the articles within. Regards, David Kernow 04:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:List of Canadian companies

Merge into Category:Companies of Canada, member of Category:Companies by country. -- ProveIt 04:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Companies listed on the National Stock Exchange

Rename to Category:Companies listed on the National Stock Exchange of India, since it is for the National Stock Exchange of India, and not the National Stock Exchange of Chicago. -- ProveIt 00:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)