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| == Transcluding a TFA page into ERRORS? == | |||
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| Okay, there's a chance everyone will think I'm a tool for even asking, but I've exhausted every other option, with zero success. I asked around for help writing a bot to ping me when the TFA section at ERRORS is edited, and I argued the case at ] for watchable sections. I also asked for help at ], where the advice was given to break off the TFA section as a separate page and transclude it to <small>either WT:MAIN or</small> ERRORS, so that it can be watchlisted separately. That's what I'd like to do. I hesitate to ask; I'm concerned that people will misinterpret this as a request to distance TFA from other Main Page goings-on. Not true; I'd like a notice at ERRORS that anyone watchlisting is encouraged to also watchlist the transcluded TFA page. I've learned a lot from ERRORS, and I plan to keep on learning. All I'm saying is that it would be nice not to have to check all the ERRORS lines in my watchlist, all day long. - Dank (]) 22:37, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :Why not a separate sub-page for each section? <span style="font-family: sylfaen">]/]</span> 23:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I'm a little concerned about possible negative effects of this change. When I'm active one of the things I try to get around to doing is checking errors, but as I no longer use a watchlist, so I mainly use the transcluded version on main-page talk which I visit frequently; this often, I've found to my peril, lags behind errors itself, sometimes by hours, and so I fear if TfA errors were transcluded into main-page errors (and I assume additionally directly into main-page talk, not via a double transclusion?) the same would happen. ] <small>(])</small> 02:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I'll confirm the lag in the transcluded errors section. I don't use it. Instead, I habitually click "Error reports" in the toolbox to see the real errors, not the sometimes-obsolete version of the errors. ] (]) 06:17, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::To clarify: clicking "Error reports" takes the reader to ] aka ] aka ERRORS. And yes, transclusions take a while to transclude anywhere on WP, so people who want to read the most updated version of transcluded material generally either read the transcluded page directly or perform a purge (a link that will do that, called "Purge the Main Page", is above, or you can just add "?action=purge" to a url). - Dank (]) 14:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :::P.S. I didn't mean that anyone was unclear, I meant that some readers might not have understood some of the terms. HTH. - Dank (]) 17:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::A fair number of admins have WP:ERRORS on their watchlist - Dank isn't the only one who can fix errors in, or make improvements/alterations to, the TFA blurb when appropriate. Dank's careful stewardship of the blurbs before they hit the main page means that there don't seem to be many changes needed anyway. Creating an extra transcluded subpage purely in reality for Dank's benefit isn't something for which I see a reasonable need. ]] 08:33, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| == non sequitur == | |||
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| On the main page for December 23, 2015, there was a blurb about James Battersby believing Hitler was Jesus "despite" Battersby's father having died on the Lusitania. The article on Battersby doesn't connect these two issues at all, correctly showing that the Lusitania went down in 1915. Unless I missed something actually in the article, none of the sources about Battersby quotes him as making any connection. This sort of attention grabbing misquote is what I expect of tabloids and doesn't help promote Misplaced Pages as a reliable source. | |||
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| ] (]) 11:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :While I'd concur with the IP, too late to do anything about it at this point.--] (]) 12:36, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| I know this will get shot down and will generate little to any concurrence with my view, but I find it extremely illogical putting up a note on the main page saying that today (Dec. 23) is Festivus, when next to nobody, I dare imagine (anyone got any hard statistics?), celebrates or observes this day, especially since its source is from an American sitcom that's been off the air for almost two decades. Anyway. Just my two cents. (] (]) 16:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)) | |||
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| :OTD frequently includes non-serious observances, such as ], ], and yes, even Festivus. However, it should be noted that Festivus poles have been installed in a few state capitols in the US, so it's not completely fictional. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—''']''' <small>{]}</small></span> 17:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Not fictional yes, but limited only to select regions of the U.S. in terms of its outreach.--] (]) 17:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :::I think that's my main "beef" as it were - the extremely limited outreach of this "festival." Who outside of the US and/or Seinfeld viewers would even be cognizant of this event? i.e. Relevance!! ] (]) 02:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::I'll see your "Festivus" and I'll raise you "Deep coal mining ceases in the United Kingdom with the closure of Kellingley Colliery." I don't care about this supposedly newsworthy item, but it's inoffensive and I'm not telling the main page to remove it just because it doesn't interest me. ] (]) 04:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::Coal mining impacts everybody and contributes to air pollution and global warming. Festivus does not have that same level of global impact. Still, this is now a moot point since the item fell off the front page. Festivus is for the rest of us, I suppose.--] (]) 17:01, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I and most of my friends are aware of today's holiday and we jokingly celebrate it. This morning's radio news mentioned that Festivus is one of several holidays being celebrated by many in the US this week. I believe Festivus is relevant to more people than "next to nobody." ] (]) 21:27, 23 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::One function of the Main Page #is# to draw people's attention to things they would not otherwise be aware of. ] (]) 10:50, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| == Edit reason for deleted articles...? == | |||
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| Didn't there used to be a edit reason plainly listed after a deleted page was gone? Now there's nothing. Why was this change implemented? | |||
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| :Do you have an example? ] (]) 12:19, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ::For anonymous (not logged in) users, the deletion log is only shown for articles '''recently''' deleted if they are visited. (The log can be displayed by following the link where it says "If the page has been deleted, check the deletion log". For logged in editors, the deletion log is always shown. — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :::This page is for discussing the content and layout of the Main Page; general questions should be asked at the ]. ] (]) 12:47, 24 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| How dare Misplaced Pages put such ] on the front page! Have you no shame? Witchcraft is not needed in such a joyous occasion! I say we boycott this website! ] 00:17, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| *]. Well, I'm spending this ] with my son ], so I don't have the time to get angry right now. — ] (]) 00:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| *Oh, good, another snarky administrator.--<span style="background:#C2C2C2">]]] </span> 03:30, 25 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| Looks like an error. ]<sup>]</sup> 09:59, 26 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| : {{ping|SSTflyer}} Was just about to bring that up here. I also left a message on Shirt58's talk page. ] ] 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I just spotted that myself and came here to report it. ]? ] (]) 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
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