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Transcluding a TFA page into ERRORS?

Okay, there's a chance everyone will think I'm a tool for even asking, but I've exhausted every other option, with zero success. I asked around for help writing a bot to ping me when the TFA section at ERRORS is edited, and I argued the case at meta:2015 Community Wishlist Survey for watchable sections. I also asked for help at WP:BOTREQ#Pinging when a "task" section is edited, where the advice was given to break off the TFA section as a separate page and transclude it to either WT:MAIN or ERRORS, so that it can be watchlisted separately. That's what I'd like to do. I hesitate to ask; I'm concerned that people will misinterpret this as a request to distance TFA from other Main Page goings-on. Not true; I'd like a notice at ERRORS that anyone watchlisting is encouraged to also watchlist the transcluded TFA page. I've learned a lot from ERRORS, and I plan to keep on learning. All I'm saying is that it would be nice not to have to check all the ERRORS lines in my watchlist, all day long. - Dank (push to talk) 22:37, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Why not a separate sub-page for each section? Eman235/talk 23:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm a little concerned about possible negative effects of this change. When I'm active one of the things I try to get around to doing is checking errors, but as I no longer use a watchlist, so I mainly use the transcluded version on main-page talk which I visit frequently; this often, I've found to my peril, lags behind errors itself, sometimes by hours, and so I fear if TfA errors were transcluded into main-page errors (and I assume additionally directly into main-page talk, not via a double transclusion?) the same would happen. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll confirm the lag in the transcluded errors section. I don't use it. Instead, I habitually click "Error reports" in the toolbox to see the real errors, not the sometimes-obsolete version of the errors. Art LaPella (talk) 06:17, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

To clarify: clicking "Error reports" takes the reader to WP:Main Page/Errors aka WP:ERRORS aka ERRORS. And yes, transclusions take a while to transclude anywhere on WP, so people who want to read the most updated version of transcluded material generally either read the transcluded page directly or perform a purge (a link that will do that, called "Purge the Main Page", is above, or you can just add "?action=purge" to a url). - Dank (push to talk) 14:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

P.S. I didn't mean that anyone was unclear, I meant that some readers might not have understood some of the terms. HTH. - Dank (push to talk) 17:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

A fair number of admins have WP:ERRORS on their watchlist - Dank isn't the only one who can fix errors in, or make improvements/alterations to, the TFA blurb when appropriate. Dank's careful stewardship of the blurbs before they hit the main page means that there don't seem to be many changes needed anyway. Creating an extra transcluded subpage purely in reality for Dank's benefit isn't something for which I see a reasonable need. Bencherlite 08:33, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

non sequitur

On the main page for December 23, 2015, there was a blurb about James Battersby believing Hitler was Jesus "despite" Battersby's father having died on the Lusitania. The article on Battersby doesn't connect these two issues at all, correctly showing that the Lusitania went down in 1915. Unless I missed something actually in the article, none of the sources about Battersby quotes him as making any connection. This sort of attention grabbing misquote is what I expect of tabloids and doesn't help promote Misplaced Pages as a reliable source. 100.15.120.162 (talk) 11:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

While I'd concur with the IP, too late to do anything about it at this point.--WaltCip (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Festivus

I know this will get shot down and will generate little to any concurrence with my view, but I find it extremely illogical putting up a note on the main page saying that today (Dec. 23) is Festivus, when next to nobody, I dare imagine (anyone got any hard statistics?), celebrates or observes this day, especially since its source is from an American sitcom that's been off the air for almost two decades. Anyway. Just my two cents. (LancasterII (talk) 16:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC))

OTD frequently includes non-serious observances, such as International Talk Like a Pirate Day, Star Wars Day, and yes, even Festivus. However, it should be noted that Festivus poles have been installed in a few state capitols in the US, so it's not completely fictional. —howcheng {chat} 17:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Not fictional yes, but limited only to select regions of the U.S. in terms of its outreach.--WaltCip (talk) 17:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I think that's my main "beef" as it were - the extremely limited outreach of this "festival." Who outside of the US and/or Seinfeld viewers would even be cognizant of this event? i.e. Relevance!! LancasterII (talk) 02:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll see your "Festivus" and I'll raise you "Deep coal mining ceases in the United Kingdom with the closure of Kellingley Colliery." I don't care about this supposedly newsworthy item, but it's inoffensive and I'm not telling the main page to remove it just because it doesn't interest me. Townlake (talk) 04:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Coal mining impacts everybody and contributes to air pollution and global warming. Festivus does not have that same level of global impact. Still, this is now a moot point since the item fell off the front page. Festivus is for the rest of us, I suppose.--WaltCip (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

I and most of my friends are aware of today's holiday and we jokingly celebrate it. This morning's radio news mentioned that Festivus is one of several holidays being celebrated by many in the US this week. I believe Festivus is relevant to more people than "next to nobody." Townlake (talk) 21:27, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

One function of the Main Page #is# to draw people's attention to things they would not otherwise be aware of. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:50, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit reason for deleted articles...?

Didn't there used to be a edit reason plainly listed after a deleted page was gone? Now there's nothing. Why was this change implemented?

Do you have an example? AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 12:19, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

For anonymous (not logged in) users, the deletion log is only shown for articles recently deleted if they are visited. (The log can be displayed by following the link where it says "If the page has been deleted, check the deletion log". For logged in editors, the deletion log is always shown. — xaosflux 12:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

This page is for discussing the content and layout of the Main Page; general questions should be asked at the Help Desk. 331dot (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Christmas 2015

How dare Misplaced Pages put such unholy heresy on the front page! Have you no shame? Witchcraft is not needed in such a joyous occasion! I say we boycott this website! GamerPro64 00:17, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

• Right. Well, I'm spending this holiday season with my son gambling, drinking, and killing, so I don't have the time to get angry right now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
• Oh, good, another snarky administrator.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 03:30, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

What is this?

Looks like an error. sst✈ 09:59, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

@SSTflyer: Was just about to bring that up here. I also left a message on Shirt58's talk page. CatcherStorm 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I just spotted that myself and came here to report it. Shirt58? Cordless Larry (talk) 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

The Three Others

The Three Others was written by Mohammad Ali V who is indian writer. His genre is manly based on Mysteries, suspense, crime and psychology in fiction About the Book

He finds himself alone in subway station and he is wearing mask which he doesn’t know himself. He is all drenched due to the rain outside. The Light goes off and he is alone and scared. Suddenly a light starts blinking at a distance and sees three people sitting there. He goes to them as that is the only light there. He introduces himself as Mathew and they as little boy who is 6 years old, priest who is in late 20’s and Zack who is in 30’s. His nightmare starts when all three of them start blaming him for the crimes he has not done and when he finds out that he is wearing mask he freaks out. The little boy who one among the three people blames him for killing his father which he understands by getting into an imaginary world where he really kills his father. Then the Priest takes him into an imaginary world blaming him for killing his friend. In the imaginary world he gets into gang war where it happens exactly what priest had said. He comes out of this imagination as well and goes through some of the scary things and then he finally understands that for him to get rid of that mask and get out of this situation he has to cooperate and understand what they are saying otherwise he is going to die. The he is taken by Zack to an unknown location in the platform which is nothing but endless platform. Then he finds himself alone left by Zack. He comes to situation where there is an accident and two people are killed in the accident. He goes back to those three others and asks them what he has to do get out. For which he gets a solution, which is to kill any one of them. He Shoots Zack and gets out of the imagination he was having the whole time but then realizes that he still has the mask on his face. He goes to a address taking the train and finally reaches to a place which is nothing but little boys home. There for a shock he gets to know that all three of them are nothing but one person and there name is Zack Mathew Stones. Knowing the name he freaks out and rushes into cutting off the mask with scissors which he could not do before. When he cuts the mask he sees Zack in the mirror. He says ‘ I am Zack Mathew Stones’ which ends up in breaking his world of imagination. He finally finds himself in hospital where it gets revealed that he has not spoken for 30 years. He is old and doctor reveals that he tried to kill himself with a gun which landed him in the hospital. There he sits thinking what he has done in his life.