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OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion

Hi there! I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. Recently, you reverted my fix to 2014 Isla Vista killings.

If you did this because the references should be removed from the article, you have misunderstood the situation. Most likely, the article originally contained both <ref name="foo">...</ref> and one or more <ref name="foo"/> referring to it. Someone then removed the <ref name="foo">...</ref> but left the <ref name="foo"/>, which results in a big red error in the article. I replaced one of the remaining <ref name="foo"/> with a copy of the <ref name="foo">...</ref>; I did not re-insert the reference to where it was deleted, I just replaced one of the remaining instances. What you need to do to fix it is to make sure you remove all instances of the named reference so as to not leave any big red error.

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Recent edit to Brady Campaign

<!-He is, but no need to mention it here I suppose..--> Thank you! Super48paul (talk) 07:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016

Hi there! Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.

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I noticed your recent edit to Qantas Flight 32 does not have an edit summary. Please be sure to provide a summary of every edit you make, even if you write only the briefest of summaries. The summaries are very helpful to people browsing an article's history.

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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. Thanks! Jetstreamer  02:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

article

thanks. I was looking for one, and couldn't locate it. Which is really the only reason I decided to create one. I couldn't find anything specifically on this, on Misplaced Pages yet. But there is one already, made a little before I started mine. So it's fine. Thank you. Redzemp (talk) 01:33, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

edit warring

keep it up, and you'll get reported. For edit-warring and violation of WP:Civil. You gave no rationale for your removal of sourced edit, and modifications. Just blatant rude undoing and removing. I warned you already. What's with you? You don't communicate. You're just trolling and warring it seems, against WP policy. You're skating on thin ice. You'll be on ANI, with links showing what you're doing. Regards. Redzemp (talk) 01:35, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

I have been giving rationale. What're you talking about? Parsley Man (talk) 01:37, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Not really. I didn't see any explanation given for your deleting of the "amazing he survived" quote (that was right in the cited source) of the police commissioner. Also, you gave no reason for the other things. The perp did NOT say "I pledge allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant", but simply "I pledge allegiance to ISIS". And also, no one really says "police department officer" but simply "police officer". Can't have things sounding too wordy, awkward, and unnecessary, especially in the lede. I see that you have done some good work on the article, but you tend to get a bit into ownership tendencies, and suppressing of sourced material sometimes for various reasons. We gotta be careful with that. Regards. Redzemp (talk) 01:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

It's not we have to exactly quote it word for word from the source, otherwise that's plagiarizing if it lacks the quotation marks. If you've noticed, I've also tried to leave the abbreviation in. Parsley Man (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Ok, Parsley Man, but you still didn't answer why you initially removed the "amazing he survived" from the Commissioner, that was in the cited source, with no explanation given. (Later it's there modified, ok, but at first you REMOVED it completely, with no rationale or reason given.) Was just curious as to why you deleted that at first. What problem exactly did you have with that edit that you removed that in one swoop along with everything else? Redzemp (talk) 22:22, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Previous accounts

What name/s did you edit under before your recent appearance as Parsley Man? E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Why? Parsley Man (talk) 00:57, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

• WP:Multiple accounts.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Then I don't have any, I guess. I'm using a bit of an old computer, just so you know. Parsley Man (talk) 01:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Reflist

I think six or seven is enough for columns, what's your standard? MB298 (talk) 00:14, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Around 10-15. Parsley Man (talk) 02:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Edit war avoidance

Hi, we both posted at the same time, creating an edit conflict. I have no interest or desire to edit war, and generally complain at ANI/AE when others show that they do. Suppose we talk about the different versions of the lead at article talk page insetad, with eye toward WP:NPOV ] and WP:WEIGHT? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

DS alert - US politics

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Template:Z33 NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:53, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! If you don't know, the above scary message is just an FYI and does not imply you've done anything wrong. Before I sent this to you, I sent it to myself! And I plan to send it to editors at the Occupation article going forward. I don't mean to get off on the wrong foot with anyone. Quite the opposite. This is all about keeping things on an even keel. Feel free to tell me what you think of my leaving this here on my talk page, or talk about anything else for that matter. Cheers NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Blaine Cooper

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Blaine Cooper. Thanks. Reinoutr (talk) 07:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)Template:Z48 --07:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/David Ward (sheriff)

You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/David Ward (sheriff). Thanks. Reinoutr (talk) 17:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)Template:Z48

Cosmetic edits

Hey Parsley Man, obviously since we are both editing articles in relation to the standoff I've been looking at a bunch of your diffs. I like a lot of them. However, I would ask that you please try and make fewer purely cosmetic edits. Those of us with expanded watchlists (showing more than simply the most recent edit for each article) get pretty annoyed when pointless edits clog up the screen.

Some recent examples from Malheur National Wildlife Refuge include this and this. Neither of these edits affected visual output or software behavior in any way whatsoever. (Double spaces between sentences are a pet peeve of mine too, but thankfully, the MediaWiki software automatically strips them when rendering a page. There could be 200 spaces there, and it wouldn't matter. Bots are actually forbidden from changing things like that in the absence of more substantive edits.)

This most recent edit not only does not affect output in any way, but removing spaces between parameters actually makes the editing screen more difficult to use for some people (i.e., me, as it now renders in the editor with many jagged line breaks caused by long urls + parameters with no spaces. If you have a high-resolution monitor, you probably don't notice this, but some of us still cling to our crappy old computers.).

Just to leave this on a positive note, I love edits like what you did with the first line you edited here, it's a real skill to copyedit for concision. Thanks for all you do, but please at least pause to wonder if some of the backend stuff is actually needed. Take care - Antepenultimate (talk) 04:43, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Occupiers vs. Militants

You may want to participate in Talk:Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge#"Occupiers" vs "Militants" (if you haven't already), as I have noticed you have changed some of the terms used in the article. MB298 (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Edit warring

I'm sure multiple editors have informed you about this before. But if you have a problem with an article's content use the talk page to discuss it rather than continuously reverting and using edit summaries to state your claim. Numerous editors have engaged in discussion on the talk page at Talk:2016 Ouagadougou attacks, but you've never engaged with the rest of us. Jolly Ω Janner 01:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Category:Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge has been nominated for deletion

Category:Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Another Believer _(Talk) 21:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work

Thanks for filling in the data as I've added citations at Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, I know I'm terrible at trying to get those citation templates filled out with all the details because I can never remember what tags go in what order.

But with that, I'm quitting dealing with that article, it's quite obvious that "NewsAndEventsGuy" has a goal of just running me off of it and I see no point in dealing with his and Bondezegou's shenanigans any further. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 15:34, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Believe this or not, Prostetnic, I don't want you to go. It would help, though, if you take a day or two to study the behavioral stuff about consensus, dispute resolution, assuming good faith, and so on. I love vigorous logic based debate, but this place only really works if we adhere to the standards required for cooperation. Up to you, but I'd love to see you stick around. My drafting of the formal complaint was not intended to drive you off, it was intended to help all of us collectively be more effective. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 16:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

And I don't believe you. Nobody starts writing up a hit piece trying to get someone blocked for any other reason than to threaten them. So screw you. You win, NewsAndEventsguy. I quit the article. You get your desire, you ran someone else off. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 16:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

No. I'm not willing to be threatened by people who aren't interested in working with others, just demanding their way or the highway without even a discussion. And I'm not willing to take "instructions" from such clearly incivil individuals. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 02:16, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

FYI

FYI 1, 2, 3. Your mileage may vary. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:22, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

3RR

Hi while I agree and appreciate with your edits, you're probably way past WP:3RR. Since the other ed is anew account I left the standard template and a much longer custom DONTBITE explanation at their user talkNewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 08:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)