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Warriors is the best series of books I've ever read. I order them off of the internet and have them sent from America to England. Usually, I spend every day wondering when they'll come, read them within about three days, order the next one, wonder when it will come and so and so forth. So far I've finished the sixth and last book in the first series, The Darkest Hour, and I'm waiting for Midnight to come, the first book of the second series. I'd recommend this to children between the ages of 8 and 13, though this may appeal to grown up cat lovers as well. Theres love, plotting, revenge, friendship, war and something else that the book creates, a Warriors' theme if you will. I think it might be beauty of the natural world-everyone knows that cats are amazing animals, but to think about them in a war, killing, hunting, running, looking better than all the other cats in the forest, including, dare it say it, dogs! I'd love everyone to pick up 'Into The Wild' and start reading. Let me tell me, you'll be hooked from the first word!

~Laura, aged 12, England

Warrior Cats merge

The article Warrior Cats is essentially the same as this one. I have suggested a merge. If there are no complaints I will merge in about week (January 25, 2005). I say merge the character bios. Like a short analysis on who they are, what their personality is, plot points, the like.

Merge preformed.

Strange...

Oh, thaks for expanding this article for me. I started it, but I needed some more. This series is highly enjoyable for anyone! Even if you do not like cats, (like me) you can still enjoy this series. I am waiting for Starlight to be published. Dragon Expert 17:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Yay! I have it! NOW FOR THE 5TH BOOK! Dragon Expert 19:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Some problems

Under the related links section, people seem to be more focused on advertising their websites and forums than actually providing links to help information and the like. I mean, come on, the description of one of the links is "this site needs members".

There also needs to be some grammar checks. In an article for an upcoming books spoilers are listed "And *insert fact here*. And *insert fact here*. And *insert fact here*".

I'll take care of some of the grammar stuff myself, but a major cleanup is needed here in terms of that.

5 minutes later: There. The Twilight and Sunset sections have been redone.User:Mukiox

I did it! and I'm proud!

I wrote most (but not most) of the links for the Warriors online phenomenon, (yay). Before this precious history of Warriors online growth is lost in time, I just NEEDED to write it down! It is all very interesting and I'm proud I recorded it at a (I think) crucial moment.

-Thank yah

Advertising

I strongly object to the advertising used on this page. It is inappropriate for a Misplaced Pages page. The user-owned sites should be added in at the end, on "Warriors-Related Links".

I MUST AGREE

With that, but I think exceptions should be made for Warriors Wish and Hidden Clans, as these are a 'real' part of the Warriors phenomenon, but we must draw the line because there is spamming. Warriors fans (you must understand) have advertised anywhere, everywhere they could since the begining of its onling revolution that fairly so changed the face of its fanbase, growing and forming more of it. I think this trend (of spamming just about everywhere) comes from the fact that the earliest things online concerning Warriors was petitions, and fans took advantage there by signing over and over just to advertise. Even though I wrote the 'Warriors online phenomenon (not all the spamming links below) I used only nessesary links that 'really' were important to Warriors. So please, don't delete (all) the links, such as the Hidden Clans game site, Hidden Clans forum, movie petition, and more that so contributed to what we have now.

-Thank ya

^- Reply: I agree that the petition should be kept. However, I fail to understand how Hidden Clans and Warriors Wish pertain to the "phenominon". I agree that they are quality sites, but they really should not be advertised here at all, the same as the other RPGs. Additionally, it is juvenile to include them in the "Warriors Phenominon" section to such a great extent. To put it simply, a person who knew nothing of Warriors would not care how many members they have when they read the section; they would really only like to know about the phenominon. Do you understand? A simple link is OK, but the rest sounds like advertisement rhetoric to me. I've shortened it and improved the grammar and spelling. Additionally, I have removed all sites from the "RPGs/Forums" that ask for more members. Shame on you. This is not a place to advertise.

Scourge

Where it shows the characters Sourge from The Darkest Hour should be there. --Mr.Nobody 03:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Mr. Nobody

Informative

I think the page is very informative, and I love the series. The medicine cat herbs are interesting, even though I know you should never use them on your own cats.

Proposal

Hi everyone! My name is Oakstar, and I used to run a Warriors RPG (It's still doing well, I just have too much stuff to do my senior year!). I like this article but I am sick and tired of the shameless advertising that goes on here. It would confuse anyone interested in the series to see all those RPG's advertising all over the place, which is really not cool.

I think that only the top 5 Warriors RPGs should advertise here, and I had an idea to find out the top ones. What if I (Or anyone else who can promise to remain active)created a proboards message-board and sites submitted their URLs and descriptions to the admin? Then, the admin would pick the top 20 sites that they liked and put them on a poll. Members would be free to vote for whichever site they thought was the best. There would be a new poll every week, so the list would be up-to-date. Then, the admin(s?) would post the top 5 winners for that weekand THEN those RPGs would be allowed to post their links here.

I think that's fair--I mean, every person who has advertised on the article has obviously had the best interests of wikipedia-users, right? Thus, it should be no problem to present them with quality RPG material. I doubt my old RPG would ever make it on there (it only has about 150 members); that's not why I'm doing this. But the free-for-all that is the sad state of the links list is just plain despicable. What do you guys think? As far as I can tell, it's the best idea we've got to date. ^-^

I don't agree with the proposal

I have an rpg site, and I have joined lots of others. If you did what you were proposing, it will bring far too many members to those already overpopulated sites. One site I am at is Hidden Clans. They have so many members, they are close to an overload of members, even just in the past week, twice they had about 60 guests on the site at once, and no, I am not over exagerating. They even asked me to delete the paragraph about them here, to help bring their guest numbers under control. Also, some new sites are rapidly gaining interest, like mine. They get at least five more members every week, more than some of the older ones. They might not have over 100 members, but chances are, they will soon. I agree about some of the advertising, and think all of the advertising should be kept to the bottom of the page, not anywhere else, as they keep popping up everywhere, spoiling the page.

I do agree with the proposal... or something like it.

What you're saying, though, is that some sites don't want to be advertised on here because they want to keep their member levels low. That's all well and good, but I think Oakstar has a good point when she says that it's a free-for-all. Misplaced Pages is NOT a place to advertise.

Don't believe me? Visit: http://www.wikia.com/Terms_of_use#Advertising

And I quote: "Commercial activities which have not been authorized by Wikia, Inc. are not permitted on the site. You may not sell or otherwise commercially exploit the use of this service, or access to the service."

You might reply, "but this isn't commercial!"

To which I answer: "No user shall add advertising that has not been approved by the owner of Wikia."

You could say, "Yeah, but we're providing people with a place to role-play. It's a service!"

How pathetic is that? If it's really a service then "new" RPGs are no service at all to people who just want to go to an active RPG, because "new" RPGs do not have enough members, hence the "new" in the title. If you really want to provide non-warriors guests with a service that they can really use, give them a directory that sorts the available RPGs so that people can search for the perfect ones for them. Websites that don't want members don't have to list themselves.

Again, Misplaced Pages is NOT a place where RPGs can list their URLs in the hopes of getting more members. I don't care how "good" it's been for them, this is NOT the place. It is against the rules and it's going to get the entire section deleted if an admin sees it.

--Hushpelt 21:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

This isn't Wikia. The relevant policy for Misplaced Pages is Misplaced Pages:External links. If you were looking for the Wikia site on warriors, please see Wikiasite:Warriors. Angela. 15:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Something else to consider

While Hushpelt was harsh, she has a good point. It is more correctly outlined here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox

That is the reason that rpgs may not be directly advertised here: firstly, you wouldn't see content like that on an encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#When_you_wonder_what_to_do), but additionally it cannot be used for "propaganda or advocacy of any kind".

External Links

The lengthy list of external links is ludacris, it is far too long and boderline spam. We need to follow a standard of somesort of notability for each site. Yanksox 22:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Unless there are objections I am going to remove all the links (except the official page, and the creator's page) as being spam and not meeting notability. If you have a reason not to delete a link, post why. Yanksox 03:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Two days have passed, I will start deleting links. Yanksox 23:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Warriors movie?

I think there is going to be one! I found a script for it! They had stuff that required animation! I heard it's coming in 2007!!! One more thing: They forgot to put Spottedleaf in the character thing.

Uh, you don't just FIND the script to a movie on the internet. >.> You're lying. ~Skystar

A Small Note

I would like to ask that when anyone is editing the pages, please only put things in that are confirmed facts. As in Cherith of Kate have said them, directly. It is very vauge to say "So and so becomes such and such/dies/has kits". This is especially true for the Twilight and Sunset sections. If you do not provide a source, I will assume it's faulty and may take the liberty of removing it.

I agree with the deletion of links, there are plenty of other sites to post those on. --Dusk 20:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Objection

I would have objected to the removal of all the links had I been here. I have re-added the top two fan-sites, (being Warrior's Wish & StarClan's Mercy) Only the RP sites and a few of the 'fan-sites' had to be deleted. I came here looking for the shrine links and I was very, very disapointed to find them gone.

Maybe some of the sites that have so much content should be kept up? After all; on the graphics sites you can't add the graphics to Misplaced Pages.

--User:Blizzardclaw

The last thing this page needs is more links, it's not within encylopedic standards at all. Any links posted must be official or meet WP:WEB. We need more contextualized content not more links. Yanksox 02:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

New Book

I've just read in my author tracker notice, that Erin Hunter is writing another book!! Here is the email:

AuthorTracker :: Erin Hunter

Hi everyone--

First of all, a huge fluffy-tailed thank you to everyone who has left a review of The New Prophecy Book Four: Starlight on Amazon.com or BarnesandNoble.com. It’s great to know you are so pleased with the way things are turning out as the Clans settle into their new home. It was really sad to leave the Forest behind after nine action-packed books, but luckily the Lake seems to hold just as many opportunities for adventure and conflict. And for doomed romance, of course!

I’m currently working on three very exciting Warriors titles, which are keeping me busy and out of the sunshine (sigh). The first is Firestar’s Quest, a special self-contained story featuring our beloved Firestar and what he got up to between The Darkest Hour and Midnight, after BloodClan had been driven out of the forest. I’ve also finished the first draft of the manuscript for Power of Three Book One, the start of the brand-new series. The adventures in these books are foreshadowed in a sinister prophecy that Firestar receives in a shadowy cave, far from home… Three will come, kin of your kin, with more power for good or evil than any cat that has walked the forest before. Hmmmm . . . who could these cats be? And will they be a force for good--or will they destroy ThunderClan forever? You’ll have to read the books to find out!

And finally (phew!), I’m putting together a guide to all things Clan and feline that have featured in the books so far. Look out for Warriors: Secrets of the Clans, which comes out next year. It’s been great fun to go back and revisit my favorite scenes and characters, and investigate some more unusual viewpoints. Ever wonder what StarClan thought about Bluestar’s decision to give up her kits? Or how Fernpaw and Ashpaw really felt about leading the vicious pack of dogs away from their Clanmates? All will be revealed, I promise!

That’s all for this month. I’ll be in touch again in August!

Very best wishes, Erin

HarperCollins Publishers 10 East 53rd Street, New York, New York, 10022 Copyright© 2006 HarperCollins Publishers

Revampage

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU EDIT

Ok, I have quasi-nukified this article, so we can start afresh. It's clear you guys know about this series, but it was getting way out of hand. So, I recommend, you read WP:MoS and Misplaced Pages's standards on other articles. I think a good article can now come out of here. Yanksox 23:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

More detailed page

Most of you will be happy to know that i reverted the warrior cats page back to the original version! Enjoy and keep reading warriors!

I have reverted this, please add to the current article as the old one was not nearly up to our standards. Yanksox 04:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Could someone tell me

Why is the newer page better than the older one?? The older one was more detailed and just perfect.The new one is rather...short of info

You can expand this article. The issue with the old page was the fact that's it was not encylopedic, and just something that you find on fansites. Yanksox 04:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep an eye on Changes

We need to keep a close eye on the stuff that people are putting in here. someone entered that the loner Coal was Firestar's brother, and they kept saying that Hawkfrost was Hawkstar. also, there are quite a few characters that have been left out, such as Willowpelt, who I think was Whitestorm's mate. I don't have much time to be working on it, but I might check back in every once in a while. Thanks- Pheasantfoot

Corruped Page Layout

Something was really wierd about the page layout, so I reverted it to the last edit. Also, not to self-advertise, but what about The Moonstone Forums (warriorcats.tk) with 200 members?

Uiop 00:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It does not matter how many members there are, there are some sites with over a thousand members. But that does not give them the right to advertise any more than other sites. I took that link off. I was thinking that someone could just compile a page with all of the warriors RP sites that people want up. (they would do this on a different site, and then link to the page here. Just an idea, what do you guys think?) -Pheasantfoot

Just a thought

Ok, anyone is open to criticm on this, but I had a thought, so no one is offended, or annoyed. Instead of having all of these links which I admit get on my nerves as well. Have any of you seen those Top RPG sites? well if someone made a Top Warriors RPG, put them on there, and provide the link to it here, that might solve some of our problems, but also make us look more professional.

Yours Truly --Brokenwing06 16:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't add a link to The Moonstone Forums. Uiop 23:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

What Happened to the Character List?

What happened to the characer list? I thought that was a major part, and should stay.

--Moonshimmer 04:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

What Happened to all of the other things, too?

There used to be a character page, and a list of herbs, too! Where did it go? I agree with Moonshimmer, and all of that stuff should stay. If it makes the article too long, there should be another article on it. Also, there isn't really much description on each book; it's just the blurb at the back of the book.

--SapphireSprite 15:47, 1 August 2006

Im waiting....

How is this article better than the old one?(I know I have asked this a million times but I still don't get it!) Let's face it..why are only boring old paragraphs about the backs of each book on here and there are STILL no character bios?! It's been a month and still no progress at all...it should have character bios and more desciption about the books on here. All I am trying to say is wikipedia..come on

This is unfair!

Why can't we put Warriors RPG links in the "links" part of the article?!! It's not fair, my friends have Warriors RPGs, they need more members, so I was putting the links to their RPGs for them! Like they say, no good deed goes unpunished! ~Skystar

I totaly agre with you Skystar. Our site has only like 4 main members that are actually online to fill up the whole site! Maybe we should make a site that has links to all the sites and add that link to here. ~Sorrelpaw

Actually, that's a really good idea, Sorrelpaw. :) But some jerk would probable take the link down. :'( The reason the links I put up kept getting deleted, was "because it adds on FAR too much to the article!" Yeah. Sure. Two links is soooo much, isn't it. *rolls eyes* ~Skystar

My Comments

I just have some things to say:

Skystar - Two links isn't a lot, but when everyone says that, and everyone adds two links, it does get bigger - a lot bigger. If you would like your friends' websites to get more members, affiliate with another Warriors website. Also, RPGs are not websites that inform you about Warriors, and they are not official, which is what the people working on the Misplaced Pages Warriors article are looking for.

Sorrelpaw - I like your idea.

People complaining - I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but if you want that so badly, why don't you just add it yourself? People worked hard to make this. I helped add book summaries, because someone got rid of the whole article before and wrote sentences about the characters. I added the book summaries because a list of characters with two sentences of info about each of them is worse than just having book summaries. Also, medicine cat herbs and terms are added back on.

Thanks, ~*Rainpool*~