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== Blocked again ==

<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> ] You have been ''']''' '''indefinitely''' from editing for . If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may ] by adding the following text below this notice: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;''}}. However, you should read the ] first. </div><!-- Template:uw-block -->&mdash;](]) 02:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|reason=Now that I'm back from my Wikibreak I'm rather surprised to find this block notice. No evasion of topic ban was performed or intended. Topic was Syrian Civil War/ISIL and the draft project page is my creation and I'm in no way limited or blocked from this area. This is not sock puppetry. I just didn't have time to <s>log out</s> <small>log in</small>. No policy or guideline broken. ~] <small>(])</small> 07:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)|decline=The page at ] is clearly a conflict-related page so it was covered by your ban. Since there is no defect in the reason for ]'s block you should now be moving toward the steps of ]. That's the part where you should explain how you will act differently in the future. The four numbered points below by PBS appear to be correct. If you actually see no problem with of a conflict-related page at 20:57 November 9 with an IP while <u></u>, imposed at 18:17 on November 9 by ], and you believe you are here due to biased actions by admins then I'm not sure how we get started on an unblock negotiation. My suggestion would be that you review the sequence of events carefully and see if you can come up with a more persuasive unblock request, one that is more believable given the diffs that we can all see. Thanks, ] (]) 17:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC) }}

===Unblock redux===
{{unblock reviewed|reason=First of all the 24 hour "cooldown" topic ban was unfairly placed on both myself and ]. Gregkaye was clearly hounding me and my request for assistance on ]'s talk page were all appropriate. Second, the edit summary I hastily left (simply changing a hard redirect to a soft redirect) was meant to say "trying to help, techno". I had purposfully logged out to prevent accidental editing. My planned (but unwanted) trip to a medical facility was going to be a long one and I wanted this new proposed WikiProject (announced ]) to adopted and furthered by other interested Wikipedians. I wasn't purposefully evading the ill-conceived topic ban however I can see how it could have been taken that way. I honestly didn't even think of it as such as it is a trivial edit that changed nothing of importance. The 24 hour topic ban was lifted a few hours after it was imposed. An indefinite (infinite) BLOCK in response to a ''']''' transgression is way overblown. It doesn't serve any purpose except to increase KWW's dopamine levels. A 5 day block has already been imposed and I think I can safely resume editing without causing disruption.~] <small>(])</small> 21:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)<br>

Update:
Most importantly '''the topic ban was lifted by PBS prior to the IP comment!''' See . I thought this was the case, however when I was trying to compare the UTC timestamps to the CST timestamps the system was giving me it didn't seem that this was the case (even though I remember it to be). Again, bogus block, abuse of admin tools and a brand new reason to resume the RFC/U I threatened KWW with the last time he got shitty with me (see my ]).~] <small>(])</small> 22:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)|decline= Your unblock request doesn't explain . ] (]) 02:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)}}

:Just to be clear, the reason for the block is not a topic ban violation, it's for logging out and pretending not to be Technophant. It's indefinite because it is clear to me that Technophant has no intention of abiding by any restrictions that are placed upon him or editing within the confines laid out in ]. The fact that we are back here dealing with precisely the same issues as he was blocked for the last time is evidence of his inability to behave appropriately.&mdash;](]) 00:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed | 1=]&]. I can't explain either. I live in the ]. There's over 200 units with some of those units having up to 6 adults living in them sharing a single shared Time Warner Cable internet connection. Perhaps one of the hundreds of users of this "shared machine" was as frustrated as I am about being blocked from editing. I often get '''very''' frustrated with it. I just did a Speedtest.net, results 1.4Mbits/s download and '''0.095Mb/sec upload with 10% packet loss'''. In case you can't interpret these results I'l;l do it for you — I have a horrible internet connection not good enough for streaming, Skype, or even ]. This poor internet connection likely explains some of the odd behavior I've been having such as edit conflicting myself screwed up ~~ signatures.</small> If being poor is against PAG then I'm guilty. If I were serious about Socking I would use internet cafes and VPN Tunnels–however I'm both A)poor and B)essentially home-bound. The IP in question is a named "sockpuppet of Technophant" so if I really was intending to evade my redickulous 24hour topic ban why would i use an ip that is already identified as my own? I may be a lot of things, however stupid isn't one of them. ~] <small>(])</small> 11:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC) | decline = Taking into account the whole editing history of the IP address, the editing history of this account, and your comments in discussion on this page during the block, I find your explanation highly unconvincing. <small>''The editor who uses the pseudonym''</small> "]" (]) 16:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)}}

===Unblock comments===

*{{ping|KWW}} I've grown tired of your abuse of admin tools and status. Please AGF. ~] <small>(])</small> 07:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@]:
#During your 24 hour ban you complained it prohibited you from editing "]", so at the time you believed the page to be under the ban. Now you self declare that it was not!
#You write "This is not sock puppetry." but comment by the IP address states "try to help techno" that comment is deceptive and intended to pretend that you were not editing as the IP address ] (something you have now admitted that you did), it is not the sort of edit history comment that an editor makes if they are accidentally logged out.
#It is also notable that in all these months (since ] in July 2014)) not once have you accidentally edited under an IP address, then while under a 24 hour ban you claim you accidentally did so.
# Your sockpuppet behaviour and your unblock request shows that no breach of AGF took place; and your comment to Kww shows that you have no contrition for what you did.
The only reason I have not personally turned down your appeal is that I think it will be better if a third administrator does that. -- ] (]) 09:01, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

*KWW childish abuse? Before PBS was the problem admin. You socked. You got caught. The Irony is PBS reversed their topic ban. Two hours before the IP sock showed up to help you. Your improper RFCU that you tried to pass off to another unwilling user brought attention to you and the sock puppetry was discovered. Above you yourself suggest that said topic ban would prevent you from editing that wikiproject and then here at your unblock request you take a different stance. Why would any reasonable admin unblock you when you want take ownership for your own activity and you haven't done anything to address your behavior? You deny wrong doing but all evidence suggests otherwise. What I would propose to you is that you agree to a topic ban on ISIL related topics, you admit your wrong doing, and you ensure them that you will not not do that again in exchange for removal of this indef block.] (]) 21:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

*], you say that I was clearly hounding you. Do you honestly, sincerely believe that? ] ] 22:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

*Above technophant offers that the edit that got his ban happened an hour after being unblocked. here is that edit. Here is the unblock. Do correct me if I'm wrong someone but it does seem that this happened more than an hour before they were unblocked.] (]) 22:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

{{ping|Technophant}}It's not clear to me but it seems that you are suggesting impropriety of some sort on the part of at least one of the admins here. I would like to ask if that is what you are suggesting? If so that is that is a very serious allegation and if you like, I or someone else can take this to ANI or the appropriate location of your choosing for you.] (]) 23:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
:] - From one disabled Wikipedian to another, I'm having an hard time seeing your fascination with my plight. I know these are strong accusations and they are not ones made without careful consideration. I've had almost a week to "cool off" re my bogus 24 hour TBAN. I was shocked after logging in after my hospital stay to see that I was blocked! I wish I hadn't logged in last night and just went to sleep...~] <small>(])</small> 00:57, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
::I have no fascination with your plight. You don't seem to understand your plight. I'm trying to help you with that. You really aren't helping yourself with some of your actions here. As far as your accusations against some of the ADMINS, they are very serious, and if you wish them to be reviewed in the appropriate venue that is with in your right. Since you are blocked I or another person here can help you. By help you I mean that we can take your complaint there for you.] (]) 01:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::] - Thank your for your offer. Q: have you ever been blocked before? It's majorly disruptive. I have a very important role here at enwiki and being limited to only my talk page is very very very very very (very) wrong. Whether I made the comment 1 hour before or after I was unblocked; what difference does it make at this point?! I'm confused about it myself. I did not intend to edit against TBAN, in the rush to get ready to be admitted to the hospital I simply didn't bother to log in and that isn't against the rules as far as I know. KWW has lost his humanity and should surrender his sysop flag (or just agree to a informal IBAN). I've been told that he is a "very respected admin" but I fail to see what (if anything) is respectable in his behaviour. :-/ ~] <small>(])</small> 12:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
{{od}}
I find it incredible that an otherwise intelligent editor here can believe they can get away with such deception. The edit summaries are plain:

* 20:57, November 9, 2014: '''Lie 1'''. IP tries to pretend to be someone helping techno:
:* ()

* 02:37, November 10, 2014: Kww then blocks Technophant and notifies them:
:* ()

* 03:19, November 10, 2014: Kww blocks IP:
:* ()

* 06:55, November 15, 2014: '''Lie 2'''. IP (whom we know is Technophant) then lies and removes an ipsock tag:
:* ()

* 09:01, November 15, 2014: ] calls it "deceptive" (see above under point 2):
:* ()

* 21:55, November 15, 2014: '''Lie 3'''. Technophant admits the IP was him and claims a comma was missing from the edit summary:
:* ():

No matter how you cut it, deception occurred THREE TIMES, with the IP edits just like the last incident of deliberately logging out to make a questionable edit. We have a pattern here. Even if there had been no topic ban and evasion to edit it using an IP, logging out deliberately to make IP edits (in the same area) is not usually allowed. You should use your account.

Also, none of Technophant's comments above (see also contribution history for deleted comments above) indicate anything more than blaming others for his problems. Any improvement only occurs when under threat of a block or ban, and such behavior cannot be tolerated. There is nothing to indicate that this user is capable of self-policing their behavior, since they see no need to do so because "it's everyone else's fault"....

The block should be maintained and talk page access blocked. Let's stop the disruption here and get back to editing. They can appeal the block in a year. -- ] (]) 23:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
:I feel the need to interject there Brangifer. It is possible that this IP is for a longterm stay hotel that has 200 units and that 30 students from 8-18 use it. It is possible that an individual other than Technophant removed that and that the person who removed it has no clue whom technophant is. It's possible and reasonable.] (]) 23:51, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
:: It is neither "possible or reasonable". What are the chances that someone else, purely by chance, is staying at the same hotel, editing from the same IP, and following along with this whole drama? Let's just apply ] here, shave/slice away such a nonsensical idea, and admit the most likely person doing it was Technophant, especially since he actually admits it! Since he admits it, why are you playing devil's advocate? It's a bit late to do that. -- ] (]) 00:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::] You are now banned from editing my userpage so suck on this - you're wrong. Read my new unblock reason. It is so sad and humiliating to admit the sad truth behind the "Great Technophant" is just a sad/sick old man with genius IQ and an over-abundance of good faith. I'm dedicated to the idea of trying to have my work on Misplaced Pages be my sole lasting legacy that I leave the world.~] <small>(])</small> 12:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::I disagree. Unless they admitted that they made that specific edit I don't think theres a way to know. If they did I hope they would just admit it. While it seems these 30 or so students do not edit wikipedia it's not clear how many of them read wikipedia. Any one of those could have responded to the alert that the IP would have received. ] (]) 00:42, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::: ], I'm beginning to wonder if we are talking about different edits. What is the diff for the one you're referring to? -- ] (]) 02:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

:::::If so I do apologise but I thought you were talking to this. Unless Technophant has admitted to that edit then it's plausible that it was done by an uninvolved party that doesn't know what is going on. They have admitted this edit was there's and I have missed in which case I apologise again.] (]) 02:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::: I can see what you mean, ''if'' I really stretch. Since Technophant had admitted previous edits with that IP were his, and since all the edits, including and since July 24, 2014, are consistent with his interests and activities here, I see no reason to think otherwise, but it's not totally impossible.
:::::: It would be odd for an uninvolved IP editor there to access the talk page, but make no other edits. There are lots of things IP users often don't know: (1) their own IP number; (2) that someone else has edited Misplaced Pages with their IP; (3) that they even have a talk page here; (4) much less its location here. It takes lots of prior knowledge to do all that. It's far more plausible to believe that Technophant made in an effort to deceive, something we know him to do, considering that two previous edits at Misplaced Pages by that IP were probably him, and all subsequent edits as well. Once an editor like him has proven that we should not AGF in their defensive comments, everything unravels and we discover lots more evidence of devious behavior. I've seen this happen many times with other editors who engage in sockpuppetry. That's why I hate sockpuppetry. It destroys the open and trustful atmosphere here.
:::::: Since we have plenty of reason not to AGF, I'll leave my comment above as it is, especially after the nice I got! There would be no substantial difference anyway. He's still deceptive. -- ] (]) 03:25, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Do not get me wrong. It's just as plausible that they did make that edit. And if they did I wish they would simply admit to it.However that's not ultimately important. This deceptive edit is the same as the one that got them indeffed in the first place. To get unblocked I do think they will have to convince the admins they are of no risk for further disruption. That's really going to take some convincing on their part because of their previous actions. From my non-admin POV I do think that they would have to agree to a indef syrian civil war topic ban (broadly interpreted) since this subject is what seems to me to have lead to this. They would need to demonstrate they understand that their socking is unacceptable to the wikipedia community, and since they show the competence of a new user I think they show an effort to learn and conform to wikipedia policy such as going to the teahouse or adopt-a-user. This of course is my non-admin POV. But the block here is not a punishment. An indef block is not permanent. It could theoretically last 5 minutes or even 10 years. Simply put it's as long as it needs to be.] (]) 04:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Technophant you really need to read some of the stuff being said down here. You stand up their saying that you made the edit that got you banned here more than an hour after you were unblocked, however the diffs I provide show that you made the edit more than an hour before you were unblocked. I honestly do not feel that you have any chance of being unblocked if you keep evading the responsibility for your actions. ] (]) 00:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

: Exactly! We cannot AGF in Technophant. -- ] (]) 00:14, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

::] I asked in an edit summary for an IBAN from this professional physical therapist/deadly character assassin. Seriously dude, you're a THERAPIST! You supposedly heal ppl, however the only thing I've seen you do here is use your expertise in human anatomy and psychology to harm. You are also a member of a professional certifying organization, ergo you need to declare your COI regarding articles such as acupuncture and chiropractic. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out that you have professional and/or financial connections with one of the many PT professional bodies and have a vested interest in promoting your personal POV while punishing other POV's (paid editor). Please do not EVER interact with User:Technophant again or any of his affiliated pages (broadly construed). Pushing past this firm and non-negotiable boundry WILL lead to sanctions.~] <small>(])</small> 12:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
::: Just for the record, I'll reply to this sad and unsuccessful attempt at outing/sleuthing/poisoning the well. I am retired, but I did work as a PT, and that is no secret, but I have no idea what the "certifying" bit is about. I don't have any COI or "professional and/or financial connections with one of the many PT professional bodies and have a vested interest in promoting your personal POV while punishing other POV's (paid editor)." That's just BS. I generally ignore the PT articles, and any of the few edits I have ever made to them are welcome to be examined. If they are not neutral or wrong, "just fix it". That's what we do here.
::: Otherwise, Techno has no right to "ban" anyone who civilly responds to their comments or otherwise uses their talk page for its intended purpose. Users do not own their talk pages. They do have some rights, but those rights do not extend so far that they are allowed to do anything which inhibits the purpose of the talk page. It is for communication, including what they may consider unwelcome communication. All the deletions and constant refactoring they have done has also messed things up. Don't do it.
::: Technophant's talk page access is now blocked, and I don't expect any reply. In fact, it would be best for them to just be silent and never again try to out or attack another editor for their supposed affiliations. That is considered a personal attack here. All the nasty and foul edit summaries left by Technophant speak for themselves. I won't expound on them. -- ] (]) 18:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Technophant you will not get over this block than that given to you by Serialjoepsycho in this section (at 04:06, 16 November 2014). Of course the question has to be asked: Given that you are banned from one area already, would an unblock and an additional ban simply move you on to edit in another area of Misplaced Pages unrepentant and ready to behave the same way with a new group of editors? -- ] (]) 14:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
: I fully agree, and I share the same concerns. After all this time, multiple blocks, and lots of controversies, there is nothing to indicate any change of heart or admission of own culpability, so I have no hopes for a good future here. -- ] (]) 18:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
This is a response to the last response you gave me Technophant. No I've not been banned before but it's not my first rodeo either. I've seen plenty of people get banned. Above in one of the other threads you make the acknowledgement that the topic ban placed by on you by PBS would prevent you from editing in the group on the syrian civil war that you created. You have admitted that you logged out to your IP and that you made an edit from that IP to that group. This is a violation of that topic ban. This also is considered sock puppetry. That's why it matters if it happened an hour before. The wikipedia community has made their position clear on acts of sockpuppetry. Look you are mad. Honestly I think you're wrong but I can understand why you are mad. But stop being mad for a minute. KWW and PBS have both responded here. They aren't here to make you mad. They are here looking to see if you understand why this blocked happened and if you are taking the appropriate action to ensure that it won't happen again. This is my POV though and if I'm wrong I hope they will speak up.] (]) 19:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

== Disturbing email ==

I have received a disturbing email from Technophant, sent by using my email contact here:

: Subject: YOU SICKO
: "I should have known that you couldn't pass up on apparent opp. to "finish me off". Your expressed hobby seems to be character assassination. My "friend" agrees with that you are a special breed of horrible person."

I request that an admin remove Technophant's ability to misuse email contacts here. -- ] (]) 16:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
:*Done. Technophant, note that you can still e-mail the arbitration committee as detailed at ], as PBS says above. But your first port of call for requesting unblock should be ]. ] &#124; ] 16:32, 17 November 2014 (UTC).


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Blocked again

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for renewed sockpuppetry. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

Kww(talk) 02:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Technophant (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Now that I'm back from my Wikibreak I'm rather surprised to find this block notice. No evasion of topic ban was performed or intended. Topic was Syrian Civil War/ISIL and the draft project page is my creation and I'm in no way limited or blocked from this area. This is not sock puppetry. I just didn't have time to log out log in. No policy or guideline broken. ~Technophant (talk) 07:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The page at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Syria/Syrian Civil War task force is clearly a conflict-related page so it was covered by your ban. Since there is no defect in the reason for User:Kww's block you should now be moving toward the steps of WP:GAB. That's the part where you should explain how you will act differently in the future. The four numbered points below by PBS appear to be correct. If you actually see no problem with your edit of a conflict-related page at 20:57 November 9 with an IP while your account was under a ban from such edits, imposed at 18:17 on November 9 by User:PBS, and you believe you are here due to biased actions by admins then I'm not sure how we get started on an unblock negotiation. My suggestion would be that you review the sequence of events carefully and see if you can come up with a more persuasive unblock request, one that is more believable given the diffs that we can all see. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


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Unblock redux

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Technophant (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

First of all the 24 hour "cooldown" topic ban was unfairly placed on both myself and User:Gregkaye. Gregkaye was clearly hounding me and my request for assistance on User:Anna Frodesiak's talk page were all appropriate. Second, the edit summary I hastily left here (simply changing a hard redirect to a soft redirect) was meant to say "trying to help, techno". I had purposfully logged out to prevent accidental editing. My planned (but unwanted) trip to a medical facility was going to be a long one and I wanted this new proposed WikiProject (announced here) to adopted and furthered by other interested Wikipedians. I wasn't purposefully evading the ill-conceived topic ban however I can see how it could have been taken that way. I honestly didn't even think of it as such as it is a trivial edit that changed nothing of importance. The 24 hour topic ban was lifted a few hours after it was imposed. An indefinite (infinite) BLOCK in response to a de minimis transgression is way overblown. It doesn't serve any purpose except to increase KWW's dopamine levels. A 5 day block has already been imposed and I think I can safely resume editing without causing disruption.~Technophant (talk) 21:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Update: Most importantly the topic ban was lifted by PBS prior to the IP comment! See . I thought this was the case, however when I was trying to compare the UTC timestamps to the CST timestamps the system was giving me it didn't seem that this was the case (even though I remember it to be). Again, bogus block, abuse of admin tools and a brand new reason to resume the RFC/U I threatened KWW with the last time he got shitty with me (see my talk archive).~Technophant (talk) 22:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Your unblock request doesn't explain this edit summary. PhilKnight (talk) 02:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)


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Just to be clear, the reason for the block is not a topic ban violation, it's for logging out and pretending not to be Technophant. It's indefinite because it is clear to me that Technophant has no intention of abiding by any restrictions that are placed upon him or editing within the confines laid out in WP:ILLEGIT. The fact that we are back here dealing with precisely the same issues as he was blocked for the last time is evidence of his inability to behave appropriately.—Kww(talk) 00:01, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Technophant (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

PhilKnight&Kww. I can't explain this edit either. I live in the Budget Suites of America. There's over 200 units with some of those units having up to 6 adults living in them sharing a single shared Time Warner Cable internet connection. Perhaps one of the hundreds of users of this "shared machine" was as frustrated as I am about being blocked from editing. I often get very frustrated with it. I just did a Speedtest.net, results 1.4Mbits/s download and 0.095Mb/sec upload with 10% packet loss. In case you can't interpret these results I'l;l do it for you — I have a horrible internet connection not good enough for streaming, Skype, or even VOIP. This poor internet connection likely explains some of the odd behavior I've been having such as edit conflicting myself screwed up ~~ signatures. If being poor is against PAG then I'm guilty. If I were serious about Socking I would use internet cafes and VPN Tunnels–however I'm both A)poor and B)essentially home-bound. The IP in question is a named "sockpuppet of Technophant" so if I really was intending to evade my redickulous 24hour topic ban why would i use an ip that is already identified as my own? I may be a lot of things, however stupid isn't one of them. ~Technophant (talk) 11:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Taking into account the whole editing history of the IP address, the editing history of this account, and your comments in discussion on this page during the block, I find your explanation highly unconvincing. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


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Unblock comments

@Technophant:

  1. During your 24 hour ban you complained it prohibited you from editing "Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Syria/Syrian Civil War task force", so at the time you believed the page to be under the ban. Now you self declare that it was not!
  2. You write "This is not sock puppetry." but the edit comment by the IP address states "try to help techno" that comment is deceptive and intended to pretend that you were not editing as the IP address 71.40.3.92 (something you have now admitted that you did), it is not the sort of edit history comment that an editor makes if they are accidentally logged out.
  3. It is also notable that in all these months (since your last blocking for using IP addresses in July 2014)) not once have you accidentally edited under an IP address, then while under a 24 hour ban you claim you accidentally did so.
  4. Your sockpuppet behaviour and your unblock request shows that no breach of AGF took place; and your comment to Kww shows that you have no contrition for what you did.

The only reason I have not personally turned down your appeal is that I think it will be better if a third administrator does that. -- PBS (talk) 09:01, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

  • KWW childish abuse? Before PBS was the problem admin. You socked. You got caught. The Irony is PBS reversed their topic ban. Two hours before the IP sock showed up to help you. Your improper RFCU that you tried to pass off to another unwilling user brought attention to you and the sock puppetry was discovered. Above you yourself suggest that said topic ban would prevent you from editing that wikiproject and then here at your unblock request you take a different stance. Why would any reasonable admin unblock you when you want take ownership for your own activity and you haven't done anything to address your behavior? You deny wrong doing but all evidence suggests otherwise. What I would propose to you is that you agree to a topic ban on ISIL related topics, you admit your wrong doing, and you ensure them that you will not not do that again in exchange for removal of this indef block.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 21:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Above technophant offers that the edit that got his ban happened an hour after being unblocked. here is that edit. Here is the unblock. Do correct me if I'm wrong someone but it does seem that this happened more than an hour before they were unblocked.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@Technophant:It's not clear to me but it seems that you are suggesting impropriety of some sort on the part of at least one of the admins here. I would like to ask if that is what you are suggesting? If so that is that is a very serious allegation and if you like, I or someone else can take this to ANI or the appropriate location of your choosing for you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Serialjoepsycho - From one disabled Wikipedian to another, I'm having an hard time seeing your fascination with my plight. I know these are strong accusations and they are not ones made without careful consideration. I've had almost a week to "cool off" re my bogus 24 hour TBAN. I was shocked after logging in after my hospital stay to see that I was blocked! I wish I hadn't logged in last night and just went to sleep...~Technophant (talk) 00:57, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I have no fascination with your plight. You don't seem to understand your plight. I'm trying to help you with that. You really aren't helping yourself with some of your actions here. As far as your accusations against some of the ADMINS, they are very serious, and if you wish them to be reviewed in the appropriate venue that is with in your right. Since you are blocked I or another person here can help you. By help you I mean that we can take your complaint there for you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 01:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Serialjoepsycho - Thank your for your offer. Q: have you ever been blocked before? It's majorly disruptive. I have a very important role here at enwiki and being limited to only my talk page is very very very very very (very) wrong. Whether I made the comment 1 hour before or after I was unblocked; what difference does it make at this point?! I'm confused about it myself. I did not intend to edit against TBAN, in the rush to get ready to be admitted to the hospital I simply didn't bother to log in and that isn't against the rules as far as I know. KWW has lost his humanity and should surrender his sysop flag (or just agree to a informal IBAN). I've been told that he is a "very respected admin" but I fail to see what (if anything) is respectable in his behaviour. :-/ ~Technophant (talk) 12:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I find it incredible that an otherwise intelligent editor here can believe they can get away with such deception. The edit summaries are plain:

  • 20:57, November 9, 2014: Lie 1. IP tries to pretend to be someone helping techno:
  • 02:37, November 10, 2014: Kww then blocks Technophant and notifies them:
  • 03:19, November 10, 2014: Kww blocks IP:
  • 06:55, November 15, 2014: Lie 2. IP (whom we know is Technophant) then lies and removes an ipsock tag:
  • 09:01, November 15, 2014: User:PBS calls it "deceptive" (see above under point 2):
  • 21:55, November 15, 2014: Lie 3. Technophant admits the IP was him and claims a comma was missing from the edit summary:

No matter how you cut it, deception occurred THREE TIMES, with the IP edits just like the last incident of deliberately logging out to make a questionable edit. We have a pattern here. Even if there had been no topic ban and evasion to edit it using an IP, logging out deliberately to make IP edits (in the same area) is not usually allowed. You should use your account.

Also, none of Technophant's comments above (see also contribution history for deleted comments above) indicate anything more than blaming others for his problems. Any improvement only occurs when under threat of a block or ban, and such behavior cannot be tolerated. There is nothing to indicate that this user is capable of self-policing their behavior, since they see no need to do so because "it's everyone else's fault"....

The block should be maintained and talk page access blocked. Let's stop the disruption here and get back to editing. They can appeal the block in a year. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I feel the need to interject there Brangifer. It is possible that this IP is for a longterm stay hotel that has 200 units and that 30 students from 8-18 use it. It is possible that an individual other than Technophant removed that and that the person who removed it has no clue whom technophant is. It's possible and reasonable.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:51, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
It is neither "possible or reasonable". What are the chances that someone else, purely by chance, is staying at the same hotel, editing from the same IP, and following along with this whole drama? Let's just apply Occam's razor here, shave/slice away such a nonsensical idea, and admit the most likely person doing it was Technophant, especially since he actually admits it! Since he admits it, why are you playing devil's advocate? It's a bit late to do that. -- Brangifer (talk) 00:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
"Bullshitrangifer" You are now banned from editing my userpage so suck on this - you're wrong. Read my new unblock reason. It is so sad and humiliating to admit the sad truth behind the "Great Technophant" is just a sad/sick old man with genius IQ and an over-abundance of good faith. I'm dedicated to the idea of trying to have my work on Misplaced Pages be my sole lasting legacy that I leave the world.~Technophant (talk) 12:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I disagree. Unless they admitted that they made that specific edit I don't think theres a way to know. If they did I hope they would just admit it. While it seems these 30 or so students do not edit wikipedia it's not clear how many of them read wikipedia. Any one of those could have responded to the alert that the IP would have received. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 00:42, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
-Serialjoepsycho-, I'm beginning to wonder if we are talking about different edits. What is the diff for the one you're referring to? -- Brangifer (talk) 02:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
If so I do apologise but I thought you were talking to this. Unless Technophant has admitted to that edit then it's plausible that it was done by an uninvolved party that doesn't know what is going on. They have admitted this edit was there's and I have missed in which case I apologise again.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 02:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I can see what you mean, if I really stretch. Since Technophant had admitted previous edits with that IP were his, and since all the edits, including and since July 24, 2014, are consistent with his interests and activities here, I see no reason to think otherwise, but it's not totally impossible.
It would be odd for an uninvolved IP editor there to access the talk page, but make no other edits. There are lots of things IP users often don't know: (1) their own IP number; (2) that someone else has edited Misplaced Pages with their IP; (3) that they even have a talk page here; (4) much less its location here. It takes lots of prior knowledge to do all that. It's far more plausible to believe that Technophant made this comment in an effort to deceive, something we know him to do, considering that two previous edits at Misplaced Pages by that IP were probably him, and all subsequent edits as well. Once an editor like him has proven that we should not AGF in their defensive comments, everything unravels and we discover lots more evidence of devious behavior. I've seen this happen many times with other editors who engage in sockpuppetry. That's why I hate sockpuppetry. It destroys the open and trustful atmosphere here.
Since we have plenty of reason not to AGF, I'll leave my comment above as it is, especially after the nice "FU Brangifer" I got! There would be no substantial difference anyway. He's still deceptive. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:25, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Do not get me wrong. It's just as plausible that they did make that edit. And if they did I wish they would simply admit to it.However that's not ultimately important. This deceptive edit is the same as the one that got them indeffed in the first place. To get unblocked I do think they will have to convince the admins they are of no risk for further disruption. That's really going to take some convincing on their part because of their previous actions. From my non-admin POV I do think that they would have to agree to a indef syrian civil war topic ban (broadly interpreted) since this subject is what seems to me to have lead to this. They would need to demonstrate they understand that their socking is unacceptable to the wikipedia community, and since they show the competence of a new user I think they show an effort to learn and conform to wikipedia policy such as going to the teahouse or adopt-a-user. This of course is my non-admin POV. But the block here is not a punishment. An indef block is not permanent. It could theoretically last 5 minutes or even 10 years. Simply put it's as long as it needs to be.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 04:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Technophant you really need to read some of the stuff being said down here. You stand up their saying that you made the edit that got you banned here more than an hour after you were unblocked, however the diffs I provide show that you made the edit more than an hour before you were unblocked. I honestly do not feel that you have any chance of being unblocked if you keep evading the responsibility for your actions. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Exactly! We cannot AGF in Technophant. -- Brangifer (talk) 00:14, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
BullRangifer/Brangifer I asked in an edit summary for an IBAN from this professional physical therapist/deadly character assassin. Seriously dude, you're a THERAPIST! You supposedly heal ppl, however the only thing I've seen you do here is use your expertise in human anatomy and psychology to harm. You are also a member of a professional certifying organization, ergo you need to declare your COI regarding articles such as acupuncture and chiropractic. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out that you have professional and/or financial connections with one of the many PT professional bodies and have a vested interest in promoting your personal POV while punishing other POV's (paid editor). Please do not EVER interact with User:Technophant again or any of his affiliated pages (broadly construed). Pushing past this firm and non-negotiable boundry WILL lead to sanctions.~Technophant (talk) 12:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Just for the record, I'll reply to this sad and unsuccessful attempt at outing/sleuthing/poisoning the well. I am retired, but I did work as a PT, and that is no secret, but I have no idea what the "certifying" bit is about. I don't have any COI or "professional and/or financial connections with one of the many PT professional bodies and have a vested interest in promoting your personal POV while punishing other POV's (paid editor)." That's just BS. I generally ignore the PT articles, and any of the few edits I have ever made to them are welcome to be examined. If they are not neutral or wrong, "just fix it". That's what we do here.
Otherwise, Techno has no right to "ban" anyone who civilly responds to their comments or otherwise uses their talk page for its intended purpose. Users do not own their talk pages. They do have some rights, but those rights do not extend so far that they are allowed to do anything which inhibits the purpose of the talk page. It is for communication, including what they may consider unwelcome communication. All the deletions and constant refactoring they have done has also messed things up. Don't do it.
Technophant's talk page access is now blocked, and I don't expect any reply. In fact, it would be best for them to just be silent and never again try to out or attack another editor for their supposed affiliations. That is considered a personal attack here. All the nasty and foul edit summaries left by Technophant speak for themselves. I won't expound on them. -- Brangifer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Technophant you will not get better advise over this block than that given to you by Serialjoepsycho in this section (at 04:06, 16 November 2014). Of course the question has to be asked: Given that you are banned from one area already, would an unblock and an additional ban simply move you on to edit in another area of Misplaced Pages unrepentant and ready to behave the same way with a new group of editors? -- PBS (talk) 14:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I fully agree, and I share the same concerns. After all this time, multiple blocks, and lots of controversies, there is nothing to indicate any change of heart or admission of own culpability, so I have no hopes for a good future here. -- Brangifer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

This is a response to the last response you gave me Technophant. No I've not been banned before but it's not my first rodeo either. I've seen plenty of people get banned. Above in one of the other threads you make the acknowledgement that the topic ban placed by on you by PBS would prevent you from editing in the group on the syrian civil war that you created. You have admitted that you logged out to your IP and that you made an edit from that IP to that group. This is a violation of that topic ban. This also is considered sock puppetry. That's why it matters if it happened an hour before. The wikipedia community has made their position clear on acts of sockpuppetry. Look you are mad. Honestly I think you're wrong but I can understand why you are mad. But stop being mad for a minute. KWW and PBS have both responded here. They aren't here to make you mad. They are here looking to see if you understand why this blocked happened and if you are taking the appropriate action to ensure that it won't happen again. This is my POV though and if I'm wrong I hope they will speak up.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 19:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Disturbing email

I have received a disturbing email from Technophant, sent by using my email contact here:

Subject: YOU SICKO
"I should have known that you couldn't pass up on apparent opp. to "finish me off". Your expressed hobby seems to be character assassination. My "friend" agrees with that you are a special breed of horrible person."

I request that an admin remove Technophant's ability to misuse email contacts here. -- Brangifer (talk) 16:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #12510

Just leaving a quick note mentioning that I have replied to Technophant's UTRS ticket, declining to unblock, but proposing that he resubmit a ticket in six months per the standard offer, and that his unblock request can be discussed at AN then. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  11:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Talkpage and e-mail access restored

This AN discussion seems to have slid off into the archives (very hastily, I must say) without resolution. I've taken it on myself to restore talkpage and e-mail access. Please use them wisely, Technophant. Bishonen | talk 17:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC).

Thank you Bishonen. I'm glad you followed up on this. I want to start a block appeal and getting TPA back seemed like a good first step. I noticed a precedent here on AN of changing the Special:AbuseFilter/201 (which has mostly been maintained by User:King of Hearts) to allow temporary access to AN. There's other instances of this being used in the filter history: Special:AbuseFilter/history/201. Since I no longer need to use UTRS to ask for an unblock review I would like to be able to post the request on AN myself so I can not only author the request but also respond to questions. ~Technophant (talk) 20:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
This request for help from administrators has been answered. If you need more help or have additional questions, please reapply the {{admin help}} template, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page.

Please post the following to WP:AN using transclusion (see above) to allow me to add extra sections in response to questions. Ty. ~Technophant (talk) 02:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@BullRangifer: and @QuackGuru:. The original request I made AN was archived early however I did get my TPA back and I've made an unblock request on AN here. I would like to thank you two for voicing your support and allowing me a second chance. Thx. ~Technophant (talk) 22:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you @QuackGuru:. When I get my privs back I'll erase the SPI userpage I have on you. People should be judged for who they are now and not what they've done in the past. BTW @QuackGuru:, why do you keep erasing your userpage? Have you felt prejudice for preferring a red nick? ~Technophant (talk) 23:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Technophant, if you want me to U1 User:Technophant/SPI right away, let me know.  · Salvidrim! ·  21:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
User:Salvidrim: please go ahead and CSD User:Technophant/SPI as U1. Time to let go of past resentments. ~Technophant (talk) 04:41, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
@QuackGuru: If you hadn't already noticed, I made the request to delete the SPI userpage (done). Thank you for your Strong Support. It's not easy being under the microscope. ~Technophant (talk) 04:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant (original)

Note: The below text is transcluded on WP:AN and is being discussed there .

I would like to use this provision to appeal my 10 November 2014 block by Kww for block evasion by using IP edits which violated WP:ILLEGIT. The following are the Standard Offer terms:

  1. Wait six months, without sockpuppetry or block evasion.
  2. Promise to avoid the behavior that led to the block/ban.
  3. Don't create any extraordinary reasons to object to a return.

As per #1, I have not edited enwiki for over six months under any account.

As per #2, I promise to never again edit as an IP again nor create or use an alternate account and follow all civility and conflict resolution guidelines.

As per #3, I'm not sure what this was statement is intended to mean but I don't think I've created and "extraordinary reasons to object to a return".

I started editing enwiki in August 2007 as Stillwaterising (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log) with 6,600 edits between 2007-2012. I had stopped editing from June 2010 until April 2012 as a protest against the Wikimedia child porn (/explicit image) scandal and the failure to approve a reasonable policy to prevent future issues. (This account was retired July 2014 .)

I resumed editing in July 2014 under my legitimate alternative account Technophant (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log) (checkuser emailed). I declared it a Clean Start account and removed references to my previous account not to hide past misbehaviour but rather to avoid future contact with cyberbullies. This is an acceptable use of WP:Clean Start. Under my new account I have made 4000 edits, almost all in 2014.

Nearly all of my problems have occurred since my return in 2014. A large part of my frustration stems from the above mentioned incident. I've also had a hard time adjusting to all of the changes that had happened in my 4 year absence, and the extra scrutiny incurred from using a Clean Start account.

Misplaced Pages has changed over the years, and behavior that used to be unacceptable is now tolerated (and vice versa). There are also many new guidelines (mostly regarding content/quality control) are in place that seem to go against the founding mantra "Verifiability, not truth". One thing I've learned is that Misplaced Pages is a force to be reckoned with. It's one of the top sites on the entire web and often the top search result in Google. Teamwork and collaboration has become a major part of the experience.

Please note: during my block I have made constructive edits to Simple Misplaced Pages (contribs) including disambiguating Minesweeper. I've also, in the past, edited other projects (See my Global contribs).

Please also see my recent request on AN to unblocked my TPA and email here. Thank you for your consideration.~Technophant (talk) 01:56, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Additional comments from user:

@Nyttend: Re your question below. Yes, I posted an unblock request on AN 5 days ago asking for my TPA and email access to be restored which it now has. The link to this auto-archived discussion is here. Please note that there are comments relevant to this request included there.~Technophant (talk) 03:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@Kww: regarding the issue of lying. By saying "block evasion by using IP edits" above I was tacitly admitting to several IP edits at Special:Contributions/71.40.3.92 from July onward. I was ashamed of my impulsive edit here and tried to claim it was made by other users on my shared IP (it was not). Remember "Apologies aren't necessary, just basic courtesy and a willingness to move forward productively." ~Technophant (talk) 04:21, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@Guy, re Too Soon. I don't think there should be unnecessarily high barriers to obtaining a second chance. I'm not a new user that has little experience or has a long history of problems. If you check my Global Contribs for current account Technophant and my retired account Stillwaterising you'll see that I have over 1600 edits on over a dozen projects other than enwiki. If you look at the talk archives for Stillwaterising you'll see that I had no major issues except for a inappropriate block that was immediately reverted. That, and my 10k+ edits on enwiki over the past 7 years in a wide array of topics (including Vandal Patrol, WikiProject Help Project, and policy discussions) should be more than enough evidence of commitment to the Project. ~Technophant (talk) 16:53, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@Jusdafax:, re you comment below. Do you even know me (or GregKaye for that matter)? It what way was I uncivil towards him? If what your basing your vote on is simply the comments here I don't think you fully understand the situation. The users who have been involved with me in the past are best suited to make decisions. Users should only be banned if they impose a credible threat to the project. I implore you to find a Mainspace revision that does this. This kangaroo court proceedings reveal several meatball:lynch mob actions against me, but for some reason I keep coming back for more. Truth be told I care a lot about the Project and these past months have been very difficult for me. I could have just created another account but I decided to keep my integrity and respect the terms. I've displayed "a basic courtesy and a willingness to move forward productively" what more could anyone ask? ~Technophant (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Dennis Brown:, re not being able to trust me. It saddens me that you feel that I can't be trusted. I've made every effort to employ rigorous honesty in all my affairs. If you would please watch this TedTalk: Trust is the true currency of the new economy. In my whole history of editing Misplaced Pages I've only recall making one intentionally false statement by denying I made this edit which I have since fessed up to. I made that impulsive edit out of anger toward the user who placed the ipsock template. As to other accusations of "lying" please let it be known that I suffer from multiple "brain insults" (both infectious and traumatic) and as a result have significant memory difficulties. Sometimes the way I remember things weren't actually the way they happened, however this does constitute not a deliberate attempt at deception; just confusion on my part. I really just want another chance to prove myself and be given the same assumption of good faith and rights than every registered user gets by simply creating an new account. ~Technophant (talk) 02:02, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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  • Technophant, In your edit of 21:55, 15 November 2014 you claimed that I was hounding you. I dispute this. I would prefer for either evidence of this to be presented so that the matter be discussed or for such claim to be struck. GregKaye 17:05, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
@Greg. Good to see you again! LTNS. The past is the past and I've long forgiven you and I can hope that you can forgive me as well. I would like to have a good working relationship with you like we did back when were were working on the ISIL timeline of maps. Let's agree to stop fighting and keep our disagreements out of the public's view. Time to move on, agreed? ~Technophant (talk) 05:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Technophant I really appreciate the past is the past view but also hope that you can reconsider the context at the time. In a thread User_talk:GregKaye/Archive_2#"Jihadist" qualification and User_talk:GregKaye/Archive_2#Guido within which another editor commented: "I have had many email exchanges with Technophant about all sorts of things and am at a loss to understand why he has been as he has recently, especially to you, .." and "I am glad my words helped in your attempt to settle things with Technophant, but never dreamed they could be influential." I made interventions in good faith and, from my perspective, there was no hounding. GregKaye 07:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Greg, I can not answer your request at this time. I suggest that you do more work in the vandalism project. Before Cluebot got so amazing a few dozen dedicated edits would stay up sometimes late at night trying to both quickly yet accurate pick out whether a revision should be warned, welcomed, blocked or accepted. I was demanding work and you couldn't do more than 3-4 hours without taking a break. I got so used to dealing with abusive editors through a system of escalating warnings then referring if they show a pattern of abuse, not heeding the warnings then they were referred with a simple keystroke to be banned admins. I think that we had a good collaboration and you took it way too personally. This incident was a one-time exception to "don't template the regulars" that didn't go well for either of us. ~Technophant (talk) 10:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Technophant Please can you cite your comment "you took it way too personally".
Please substantiate your comment that you "can not answer (my) request at this time". Why?
You have had plenty of time to consider my question regarding the hounding accusation yet you refuse either to provide substantiation or to drop it.
Please, please do not raise accusation or cast aspersion. Citation is needed for fair opportunity to reply. Replies at times other than at times when issues have been raised in other places and pings also may help. I only noticed your comment here following thank from BullRangifer on my 18 August post. GregKaye 07:13, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
GregKaye From what I see, you technically !voted twice. You have one comment that says "Unresolved issues" and below a !vote for "Oppose". I can tell that you still haven't forgiven me for taking you ANI in October, however if you take the time to reread it I said that "I actually like this editor and he has made some important contributions. I don't want this editor topic banned" which undoubtedly saved you from receiving any sanctions. I've repeatedly requested that you drop your grudge and accept my sincere apology. ☮ ~Technophant (talk) 05:08, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Technophant I was mistaken to write "Unresolved issues" when I should have written "Unresolved issue". If you can supply a link back to that discussion I will happily strike that final "s" and any related content. I have asked is that you either cite or drop your allegation that "Gregkaye was clearly hounding me" and I was right to flag this up. I did this in reference to "Unresolved issues" in that I interpreted your allegation as being related to a number of my edits. However I should have presented this as being an "Unresolved issue" as it relates to a single unresolved allegation. At this stage you are also adding to this with your, "you took it way too personally" slurs and now, "you still haven't forgiven me" and allegations of "grudge". All I want is for things to be resolved yet you are adding to issues. I repeat, all I want is for things to be resolved. "I've repeatedly requested that you drop" or cite your allegation/s. I had forgotten who had taken me to AN/I in October. That was a long time ago. The issue was in regard to the use of "jihadist" as a description in the ISIL article. Certainly, for reasons that I had not properly processed at the time, I was right. GregKaye 06:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Greg, I would strike it if I could but since it's part of an closed unblock request it wouldn't be proper to change it now. I've been warned for "refactoring this talk page to selectively remove or collapse comments by other users that are pertinent to the block" and editing a 10 month old closed discussion is pretty much along those lines. So, please let me apologize here for making that accusation. Events that were unfolding in RL at that time had zapped my patience and I was not my usual self.~Technophant (talk) 01:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Comment: I'm not sure why this standard offer process was left to be my only way to request an unblock. I had to ask for help on irq and then (in an awkward process) to first simply ask for the ability to edit my own talk page then devise a scheme to be able to put live content here.

This process isn't at all suitable for a full and fair hearing or discussion. I feels like a violation of my right to a fair hearing because I can't respond. I feel like a prisoner that is put on trial in a cage and there's no way to answer the questions correctly .

Here's what I suggest. Unblock me first. I'll agree not to edit mainspace. When I get back we can discuss any conditions in a more proper hearing. Also, please don't take a lack of response to a question as being evasive. I've learned that I am a survivor of abuse and my first instinct I have when I feel bullied, teased, or verbally attack is to freeze up and not respond. Nobody should have to go this far to get a silly misunderstanding cleared up. It's sad that so many good admins have left the project and have little intention of returning. ~Technophant (talk) 10:26, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

See my comments in the section WP:AN#Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant. Your were given a 24 hour cooling off period by me (see #Other people's talk page edits). You disingenuously said that you were taking a wikibreak while simultaneously editing with an IP address (something you have recently admitted). Your response to your block was:
  1. "Now that I'm back from my Wikibreak I'm rather surprised to find this block notice. No evasion of topic ban was performed or intended. ..."
  2. "First of all the 24 hour "cooldown" topic ban was unfairly placed on both myself and User:Gregkaye. Gregkaye was clearly hounding me and my request for assistance on User:Anna Frodesiak's talk page were all appropriate. ..."
  3. "PhilKnight&Kww. I can't explain this edit either. ... The IP in question is a named "sockpuppet of Technophant" so if I really was intending to evade my redickulous 24hour topic ban why would i use an ip that is already identified as my own? I may be a lot of things, however stupid isn't one of them."
  4. Selective deletion of other people's comments leads to a talk page block (16 November 2014).
14 August 2015 restoration or talk page. AN request for standard offer made Two important points made by you:
  • "As per #2, I promise to never again edit as an IP again nor create or use an alternate account and follow all civility and conflict resolution guidelines."
  • "As per #3, I'm not sure what this was statement is intended to mean but I don't think I've created and 'extraordinary reasons to object to a return'."
The first bullet point shows that you have understood the mechanics of why you were blocked. But you seem to have completely missed that the block came out of an escalation of a 24 hour ban (where you tenaciously and deceptively continued along the same path of unacceptable behaviour). It is the attitude that lead to the behaviour rather than the mechanics of that behaviour that you need to address. The problem I see is that since your access to this talk page was enabled you have shown no understanding of this. The section #WikiProject Syrian Civil War is a sign of the same tenacious behaviour in the area of ISIL (most editors would have waited until their block was lifted before suggesting a new project which others have already rejected). Your comments above Nobody should have to go this far to get a silly misunderstanding cleared up. is a clear indication that you really do not understand yet, the underlying reasons your account was blocked (you were not blocked for a "silly misunderstanding"). -- PBS (talk) 11:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
PBS you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I clearly remember reading on somebody's talk page that you agreed to lift the 24hr topic ban on my account. I had 100% expected to be gone before noon that day however the person who agreed to drive me (ahem!) changed her mind saying the she wouldn't take to the hospital at all if I wanted to go to one that she disapproved of.. so, now I've already said "i'm outta here" and in order to NOT seem disingenuous I logged out and spent my time anxiously refreshing my watchlist. I know what I remember and I'm NOT a liar. Trust is the true currency of the new economy so apparently right now I'm flat broke just because the "official notification" of the lift of the ban was an hour or so after I made the ip edit. Again, I didn't want to be called a liar so I made that very very minor tweak in the order of redirects (which in no way harmed the project). Does anybody else see this as retaliation for attempting to start a RFC/U for PBS exhibiting hostility toward users that question what the heck was up with law and order an the talk page of THE biggest news story of this century getting 2 Million page hits a day?! Getting the ISIL page headed in the right was a task that needed doing and there was nobody else stepping up to the plate. I haven't had the time, energy or interest in keeping up with the ISIL page. I tried to to give it a quick look-over last night for the first time in a year and besides seeming very verbose, bulky and difficult for to read with my eye condition everything seemed in order. I'm happy to step away from the page knowing that early on (spring of 2014) the persons who were editing it were highly qualified, experienced, and the discourse was literally the best experience I've ever had enwiki. To see THAT turn into THIS just because I wouldn't do exactly as you asked which was revert edits that had already been commented on (a big no no in my book, supposed to strike instead) but when I refused you blocked me! This is insane! ~Technophant (talk) 16:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I very very very much appreciate the kind words of support from the editors (especially MeropeRiddle's) that actually knew me for who I was. There's a minority who see me as a fraud, a liar, a sockpuppet, whatever. For those who a reputation to uphold, or a position the would like to defend I'm seen as a threat. Whatever. I just want to get back to editing, and I've decided to return to my original account (SWR) and wish to end this insane experiment of literally splitting my psyche by creating confusion between the two identities. User: Adjwilley asked me to pick one account and now I regret my decision to use the newer one. ~Technophant (talk) 16:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that Adjwilley also remarked here, with an edit summary "what a shame":

I'm also troubled by User:Kww's indef block over these issues, as I've seen him express strong views on the subject matter making me question whether he's emotionally "involved" in the underlying content dispute. It's also discouraging to see the blocks come at a time when the user was trying to come clean: voluntarily disclosing his previous retired account (several thousand edits with only one block) and unwatchlisting all pages related to alt-med. I was hoping that the topic ban would allow him to continue edit productively in less problematic areas...now I don't suspect he'll be editing at all. ~Adjwilley (talk) 05:06, 25 July 2014 (UTC)}}

The reason why my unblock requests were denied were because KWW refused to allow it. Now that he's been "defrocked" his objections are irrelevant.

I do not agree that Kww's objections are irrelevant, and just because you say so does not make it so. -- PBS (talk) 18:04, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, it's curious that nobody has mentioned that this current block came after I posted Requests for Comment/User:PBS - Admin misconduct just prior to leaving on my break. My first negative interaction PBS was on his talk page here. My objection to closing a talk page discussion without giving a reason or signature was improper. I asked him to correct this on his talk page but he ignored me. Some people feel "shown up" when others point out their mistakes. I feel his actions toward me to be retaliatory and there needs to be some kind of discussion about this to prevent his misuse of his position of authority in the future. ~Technophant (talk) 12:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

"When you are in a hole stop digging" (see Law of holes)

You are not doing yourself any favours. "I asked him to correct this on his talk page but he ignored me." See "here" This AN is about whether you should be unblocked, not whether I should have my mop taken away. I suggest that you follow the advise you have been given and stop trying to deflect the blame for your behaviour onto others, and start to persuade other editors that you recognize what was the issue is with your behaviour, and how you will modify that behaviour. To date I do not think you have done that. -- PBS (talk) 18:04, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

PBS, you're right - you did respond. I only brought it up because I thought that might the original incident may have lead to a resentment toward me. I don't want to have this adversarial relationship any more. I understand that your job as as as admin is difficult and you have to deal with a lot of different editors with a variety of issues however you seem to be unusually hard on me and I'm not really sure why. I want to use this opportunity to clear the air and get a fresh start. Would you please accept my apology? ~Technophant (talk) 05:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding "Inconsistency"

User:Miniapolis, you wrote on AN: "Although the editor makes a vague reference to a "Wikimedia child porn scandal", their previous account was blocked for one or more WP:FRINGE-related topic-ban violations which have not been addressed.Miniapolis 23:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)" You seem to mistakenly conflating the 2014 alt-med topic ban under my current account (Technophant) as being part of my 2007-2011 editing as Stillwaterising. That account is retired and blocked by KWW. Please see my latest comment above for clarification. Thanks. ~Technophant (talk) 17:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, please take into account that due to confusion and suspicion the (legitimate) use of Clean Start and alternate accounts, this case has become way more complicated than it needed to be. Please see User:Adjwilley's talk archive for more clarity regarding my earlier topic ban and account usage. ~Technophant (talk) 18:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Messages for other users

  • @User:Lugnuts, thanks for pointing out that Kww was defrocked. I noticed here on User:Adjwilley's talk page and followed the trail of clues after I wrote my request. Kww's blocks, while being technically justified, were very harshly applied. A simple warning or 2 day block would had been more than enough for me to get the message. Also congrats on creating 23,000+ articles! I can't conceive the amount of hard work and dedication that must have taken. ~Technophant (talk) 20:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
No problem and thanks for the kind words. Lugnuts 07:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
There's really nothing to talk about privately. You don't owe me an explanation.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Your suggestion to have I be allowed an Iban is good idea. I was going to ask for it as part of my unblock then removed the request at the last minute.~Technophant (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Protective IBAN from Brangifer

I'm requesting an indefinite IBAN from BullRangifer/Brangifer. This user has been a real thorn in my side, starting with a noedit threat on the acupuncture talk page. His numerous ad homenim attacks (calling me a liar , foolish and showing a "gross lack of AGF"., describing me as an editor who is "simply incapable of learning") are just a few examples. He's exploited every opportunity to recommend that I be blocked for a year or permanently. Then when his actions are questioned (below) he's takes statements to protect his image.

The most egregious personal attack was made on User talk:Adjwilley. he made regarding my self-declared mental illness as not only a reason for having me banned, he also implied that I should be involuntarily euthanized with a link to the article that which in the most part describes Action T4. Here is the edit he made a long list of reasons that I should be have my TPA removed:

Hidden inside the words "They'd be better off" is a wlink to involuntary euthanasia page (] if they stopped editing). I feel like his remarks that I should be gassed as the Nazi's did to “incurably ill, physically or mentally disabled, emotionally distraught, and elderly people.” as beyond offensive. It violates Wikimedia's no discrimination, harassment, and no personal attacks policies. It specifically violates WP:NPA's "Linking to external attacks, harassment, or other material, for the purpose of attacking another editor" among others. Saying somebody should be executed IS a type of death threat in my book. I wanted to take this to ANI but I was blocked at the time so I commented about this on my talk page ] however the only response I got was that his remarks were "metaphorical" and "in bad taste" but not a death threat.

Misplaced Pages has zero tolerance for death threats, broadly construed. "Metaphorically" saying a user should be executed against his/her will is a just a thinly veiled death-threat. The way BullRangifer hide his reference in a Wikilink was sneaky and could easy be overlooked, but it still still threatening.

I get chills of fear down my spine just seeing this username on my screen. His continued presence should not be tolerated. I would like to be able to go to my next NAMI meeting and give a presentation on how Misplaced Pages is a fun, safe, stimulating place where disabled people can use their skills to help further the mankind's knowledge however this is not a safe place and such intolerance should not be allowed even in the slightest. ~Technophant (talk) 11:55, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

UPDATE: I'm back from the hospital. I had access to my email there but was not able to edit. I was given the limited ability to respond to other users by the means of transcluding a section of my userpage. Normally, Standard Offer requests are just one or two paragraphs posted to AN and the discussion goes from there without the editor's further input and if I had to do this over again I would have preferred things be simple rather than overly complex and drawn out. I'm willing to "decouple" my request for an IBAN from my Standard Offer request. The discussion about the IBAN has gotten a bit out of hand and any further comments about it would only serve to fan the flames of conflict. ~Technophant (talk) 04:06, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Request for closure

I am requesting that an uninvolved (but informed) admin please close this unblock request. It's been open for 10+ days and there's seems to be clear consensus.

Because of the unresolved matter of requesting protection from Brangifer, I'm requesting that the thread NOT be marked as "please do not modify" so the much needed discussion regarding the treatment and rights of the mentally ill can be brought to the attention of a wider forum. Thank you. ~Technophant (talk) 19:51, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Requesting editing privileges for WP:AN and my userpage

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To User:Salvidrim or to any admin or helper:

  • Reason: I'm changing a Special:AbuseFilter to allow temporary access to AN and my Userpage so I can respond to all of the questions being asked of me re my unblock request above. I noticed a precedent here on AN. There's examples of this being used in the filter history: Special:AbuseFilter/history/201.
  • Task: I've done some research; to find out what the pageID is I used pageid={{pageid}} to show the current pageid. An edit filter can temporarily be placed that will allow me to respond to users questions at WP:AN#Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant (pageid=5149102) as well my userpage (pageid=43371109) which is currently blocked.

Flags=Enabled and with the following parameters:

user_name = "Technophant" &
!contains_any (article_articleid, "5149102", "43371109")

I would appreciate this be done soon. The clock is ticking (3 days left until close). 'This request could be posted to Misplaced Pages:Edit filter/Requested if help can't be found. ~Technophant (talk) 02:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Hello. I'm responding to the adminhelp request for an edit filter. I'll try not to sound autocratic, but someone has to say this: No. Despite any precedent you think you might have found, we don't normally provide personalised edit filters for this or any other reason. If you can't secure an unblock by making assurances about what you're going to edit, then you can ask others to transfer your comments to AN until such time as you are unblocked. -- zzuuzz 22:01, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
zzuuzz It's very difficult to respond to users questions (which are many) and having access to my userpage isn't contentious. I requested that this be posted to the Misplaced Pages:Edit filter noticeboard for a more indepth discussion. My unblock request discussion may be almost over however mine will not be last Standard Offer request. ~Technophant (talk) 09:53, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome to a second opinion about the edit filter - as I hinted, I'm (after some delay) just the messenger. Every edit filter is checked against every edit to the wiki, which makes personalised filters in a word costly. Let me also add.. this involves unblocking you. Reblocking you if you were to violate the terms of unblock is incredibly easy, using WP:ROPE it's not an issue at all. This makes the filter somewhat moot, and boils the issue down to a basic unblock with conditions. I'm probably the wrong person to ask about that. -- zzuuzz 18:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Page Information tool error

When I used the "Page information" tool on AN (an ANI) it froze then failed due to an SQL error. Too many subpages perhaps?

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

  • Function: InfoAction::pageCounts
  • Error: 2013 Lost connection to MySQL server during query (10.64.48.2x)

This could just be an enwiki specific bug so it shouldn't need to be reported to Wikimedia's Phabricator unless there's no solution found. It's a minor one though. ~Technophant (talk) 06:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

You have a transcluded section from your talk page, and the discussion appears to be steering towards unblocking you. Why do you want to be able to edit AN directly? Sam Walton (talk) 09:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Syrian Civil War


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Technical and other problems

With regards to your email:

  1. I can not help you with your technical problem (as it is not something I have encountered). If you are unblocked that is an obvious question for Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical) or one of the other pages mentioned there.
  2. If any other member of your family/household edit Misplaced Pages then I suggest very strongly that you approach them and advise them to follow the guidance giving in Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry#Sharing an IP address immediately.

-- PBS (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I also suggest that you loose the black banner from the top of this page that says "...Misplaced Pages for an undefined period of time." as you are clearly around and about. -- PBS (talk) 15:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
PBS I changed my status. I wasn't expecting to get back so soon however I may need to "go away" again perhaps tomorrow. My account security was compromised and I can't change my watchlist token. I'm checking more closely that the certificates for SSL pages are correct and have a good path. ~Technophant (talk) 09:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
BTW: The problem with my four ~ signature simply leaving the date that you pointed out in on my talk page was not my fault. It was part of a bigger problem... I knew something was fishy and when I got a notification saying something like "you have been successfully logged in however your preferences file could not be created" popped up on my screen while I was in the middle of a reading a help page (with no other sessions open) I knew for sure that my account somehow my session had been "spliced" into. How this was accomplished I'm not sure. ~Technophant (talk) 10:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @BullRangifer: I would like to suggest that the reason that you couldn't use close/hat templates is because somewhere a "collapse top" (or alias) has been placed without a corresponding "collapse bottom". I searched my entire transcluded section (and AN) but couldn't find the problem. Keep looking, there has to be a solution. ~Technophant (talk) 03:55, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Get Well soon so you can edit more! Randomstuff207 w (talk) 01:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Refactoring sections mentioned in WP:AN#Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant

Technophant See the section above #Reversal of deleted selected comments relevant to unblock requests in which I wrote at 13:48, 16 November 2014 "In the same series of edits as the unblock request, Technophant has been refactoring this talk page to selectively remove or collapse comments by other users that are pertinent to the block"

Last time this led to your talk page access being rescinded. You are now doing very similar things again:

  1. Revision 09:57, 26 August 2015 "WikiProject Syrian Civil War: archive" -- this removed a section called "WikiProject Syrian Civil War". I can not find it in the archive. Please provide a link to that section in the archive as that section forms part of the WP:AN#Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant discussion.
  2. Revision as of 12:43, 26 August 2015 "restore archived thread". -- Why?
  3. 07:13, 27 August 2015 "add {{User warning-mentalhealth}}, discouraged, more" -- collapsed a section to which WP:AN#Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant links.

Aside from these changes to whole sections you have also been changing many other comments. Why do you think your talk page edit privileges were removed last time?

-- PBS (talk) 18:51, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

@PBS: I got an email this morning from Technophant saying that he's in the hospital with no computer and can't currently edit. ~Adjwilley (talk) 03:41, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
@PBS: I used collapse to improve readability. I did "archive" a few things, however when a user is blocked the only page they can edit is their talkpage so archiving would need to be done later. Keep in mind that WP:USER says "Traditionally Misplaced Pages offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit." Archiving is prefered but not required etc. If I violated USER or REFACTOR in any way it was unintentional. ~Technophant (talk) 03:14, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

New unblock request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

A few weeks ago I started a Standard Offer unblock request on WP:AN. It was going fairly well however I then added some extra comments that lead to a backlash and withdrawal of Support from several users. I was blocked for misusing IP edits (but not sockpuppet accounts) however was NOT blocked for "behavioral issues", personal attacks, or incivility. I broke my promise I made to User:Adjwilley to permanently refrain from using IP edits and paid dearly for my mistake. I'm willing to put any and all past differences behind me and move forward in a constructive fashion Several comments I made above were very much out of character from my normal professional demeanor. I was going through a time of enormous personal stress at the time however I have recently gone through a great deal of personal growth, psychotherapy, and medication changes and now feel that I am ready to go "back to work" editing in my usual gnomish/elfish fashion.~Technophant (talk) 10:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I'd suggest leaving it for another 6 months, then re-apply for a standard offer. PhilKnight (talk) 21:44, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


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It's been over since I made my last unblock request (or have logged in for that matter). I have not edited enwiki for over a year and think that this block should be finally be lifted. I'm a highly skilled editor who has made thousands of valuable contributions.~Technophant (talk) 12:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

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