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Revolving around Akshant Kautilya Sharma, this story is an alarm for the Indian nation's authorities to rise before two major problems, namely misoriented youth and the caste-based reservation system take India to the depths of darkness. I also request that an article about the same be written if you consider it fit. It is somewhat popular on Facebook with a cult following for itself on its Facebook page.. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks23121990 (talk • contribs)

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2. https://www.facebook.com/7SecondsAKS/

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Look at Sher Shah's coin. His name is written in Sanskrit.

My prof told me that Sher Shah issued coins with inscription both in Persian and Sanskrit. It was a unique thing in the Medieval Period. But, I could not get material in its support. Suddenly, I looked into the wiki article of Sher Shah. Just look at the bottom of the first coin. His name is written. --Ghatus (talk) 05:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Really cool. I can see the Devnagari "clothes line" at the bottom clearly. As to what is written, I have to squint a lot to read "Sher Shah." I also remember from my high school history that Sher Shah was an administrative genius, and he vastly improved the administrative systems many of whose elements are still in use today. Akbar was lucky to have had him as a predecessor.

Asher and Talbot say that the exclusion of Afghanistan from Indian history is a colonial hangover. A truly modern history of India should regard Afghanistan as an integral part of historical "India." -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Not quite "unique" in medieval times. You have seen Mahmud of Ghazni's coins of course? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:05, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Ghaznavi also did so in the 11th century.Ghatus (talk) 12:23, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

I am also beginning to think that the so-called "insularity" of Indians was propaganda by Al Beruni and later by the British, both of whom hung out a lot with chauvinist Brahmins and imagined that they represented all of India. The trade routes had always been open, despite Islam, until the British closed them as part of their imperialist policies. The Chabahar route might be the greatest legacy that Modi is likely to leave behind. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Hari Singh Nalwa closed the Khyber pass and the Britishers cemented it.Ghatus (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

BTW, I do not think that Al Beruni was propagandist. He talked about the 11th century Hindus specifically and observed that their ancestors were not so narrow minded. The Muslim rulers of N. India in the medieval period were very cosmopolitan and maintained relations with the Central and West Asia. Ghatus (talk) 12:31, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Swami Vivekananda:- "I am thoroughly convinced that no individual or nation can live by holding itself apart from the community of others, and wherever such an attempt has been made under false ideas of greatness, policy or holiness-the result has always been disastrous to the secluding one.... The fact of our isolation from all the other nations of the world is the cause of our degeneration and its only remedy is getting back into the current of the rest of the world. Motion is the sign of life." --Ghatus (talk) 12:38, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

An interesting fact - the commander-in-Chief of the army of Sher shah was a Hindu (Brahmajit Gaur). He was really a unique ruler. We still use his land revenue system, GT Road. He was also the pioneer in introducing civilian postal system in India. We use the term Sarkar (Government) invented by him.--Ghatus (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't mean to say that Al Beruni was making up stories that weren't true. But I think he was being selective, and was hearing what he wanted to hear. We don't find him talking about the bonhomie that existed between Hindus and Muslims that Romila Thapar narrates. He was the first one to have written that Hindus hated Muslims. There begins a long line that ends with Jinnah. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

The famous quote of Al Beruni, which Thapar called the "most incisive" one of the 11th century :

"The Hindus believe that there is no country but theirs, no nation like theirs, no kings like theirs, no religion like theirs, no science like theirs.They are haughty, foolishly vain, self-conceited, and stolid. They are by nature niggardly in communicating that which they know, and they take the greatest possible care to withhold it from men of another caste among their own people, still much more, of course, from any foreigner ... Their haughtiness is such that, if you tell them of any science or scholar in Khorasan and Persis, they will think you to be both an ignoramus and a liar. If they traveled and mixed with other nations, they would soon change their mind, for their ancestors were not as narrow-minded as the present generation is."

--Ghatus (talk) 14:12, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I am sure Al Beruni has earned his due to say such things. But we should just wince and ignore it.

I, on the other hand, think that Hinduism had been defensive and insecure from the fall of the Gupta empire until about the time of Sankaracharya. It was under attack, by Buddhism, Jainism and Islam. And it didn't have a powerful empire to protect it. The bravado that Al Beruni speaks about was actually insecurity. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Bunch of Thoughts

Hello, Kautilya! I just saw your edits on this page. Do you think this removal was correct? It was sourced from the original website of RSS and book and I think that the removal was wrong so I reverted it. I would like to know your opinion. With regards, Terabar (talk) 09:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it is. WP:PRIMARY sources can only be used to provide additional detail to WP:SECONDARY sources. In this case, there was no secondary source at all. You can try looking up what the Noorani book says about the issue. Personally, I don't think much importance can be placed on the quote because China was going to war with India and lots of people would have said lots of nasty things. It has to be seen context, which only secondary sources can provide. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 10:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines

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Annexation of Hyderabad state

I am surprised you did not add the fact that India annexed the state? every single source on planet earth states this and this needs to be added please stop your nationalist vomit on wikipedia. 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:7550:5709:B28C:2EA7 (talk) 09:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

@RegentsPark and NeilN: can we do something about this sock? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:13, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Who's the master? --NeilN 13:30, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: I have no idea. It must have been before my time, but it seems that he/she is now obsessed with me. Seems to feed on talk page discussions and then go on rampage. Going by reputation, it could be User:Nangparbat, but I don't that user all that well. Some older IPs

• 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:D5AA:E7F2:540C:E498 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:A4E6:A3F:C283:FD91 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:5D14:164B:83AE:526F (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:AC06:C66E:8988:269 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

and possibly related to this old-style IP 5.71.195.155 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Since it is an IP hopper now, there is little point in blocking them. The best thing to do would be to semi-protect all the pages where they are active. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:31, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

So, now, he is edit-warring. -- Kautilya3 (talk)

Current IP blocked two weeks. If more show up, let me know. --NeilN 18:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN:, New IP showed up: 2A02:C7D:14FC:C600:C065:BE6D:A813:7ED5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

2a02:c7d:14fc:c600::/64 blocked a month. --NeilN 12:47, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: And now LanguageXpert wants to join the party . -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Singapore

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June 2016

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Hyderabad State. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Saraswati Shishu Mandir

You own a copy of Jaffrelot's book on the Hindu Nationalist movements (1920-1990), right? Is there anything you can do with this? It's in really bad shape. Vanamonde93 (talk) 12:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Van, Saraswati Shishu Mandir is just the `brand name' for Vidya Bharati primary schools. It should be merged into the parent article. There is not much independent information available for it. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 12:49, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah okay I suspected as much. I'll perform the merger soon, after doing one last sweep for sources. Vanamonde93 (talk) 13:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Balochistan conflict

TripWire wrote "This is not an RfC" What is an RFC? 2A00:11C0:9:794:0:0:0:5 (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)