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To explain. T Turner, or someone associated with him used a web site to stuff my personal phone text message box filled with threatening messages with a bogus return number. I had my phone provider block text messages, and the creaky legal structure to trace down some possibly related harrassing voice messages originating from a blocked ID has started. Now Turner is going around wikipedia tell people that I have created Ray Lopez harrassment as a fraud. . This campaign of Ray Lopez harrassment has included fake myspace pages, threatening phone messages and repeated sockpuppet attacks. Now it includes libel as well. ] 20:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC) To explain. T Turner, or someone associated with him used a web site to stuff my personal phone text message box filled with threatening messages with a bogus return number. I had my phone provider block text messages, and the creaky legal structure to trace down some possibly related harrassing voice messages originating from a blocked ID has started. Now Turner is going around wikipedia tell people that I have created Ray Lopez harrassment as a fraud. . This campaign of Ray Lopez harrassment has included fake myspace pages, threatening phone messages and repeated sockpuppet attacks. Now it includes libel as well. ] 20:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

:I am no way related to the "Ray Lopez" attacks that Stirling has been bringing up against me. I disagreed with Stirling related to his handling of . I agreed with a fellow editor's actions on this article, and let that editor know that I supported him. Shortly after that, Stirling leaves this note on my talk page. I noticed this note today, to which I decided to do a little research on the man that accused me of "harassment." I noticed that the "Ray Lopez" character disappeared when Stirling disappeared, then reappeared when Stirling reappeared. Using simple research tools, I discovered that this "Ray Lopez" guy was logging in from a domain registered in Stirling's hometown. I decided to point this out, because I felt Stirling was abusing the "Personal Attacks" policy a little too much. After bringing this subject up for debate, Stirling proceeded to make legal threats on this very page and on this user talk page: . I registered this account because I wanted to contribute more to this encylopedia, in the area of economics and social practices, but yet, I realize that it may just be too much trouble to edit under a registered name - the second you disagree with someone, he proceeds to accuse you of personal attacks, harassment, and then makes legal threats? Not really the standards related to a warm "Misplaced Pages" welcome. ] 21:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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    ShortcutThis page is intended to get attention quickly when dealing with personal attacks. It is not intended to serve as a form of mediation or a type of RFC. Only Personal attacks are dealt with on this page, on their own merits in accordance with Misplaced Pages's No Personal Attacks policy

    For editors who want a personal attack situation reviewed:

    1. Consider that in most cases, ignoring the attack is better than requesting sanction against the attacker. Do not report people if you are likewise guilty of hostility towards them.
    2. Make sure the user has actually commited a personal attack. (Please note that "personal attacks" are defined only under the WP:NPA policy. If a statement is not considered a personal attack under the intended spirit of this policy, it does not belong here.)
    3. The editor must have been warned earlier. The {{npa2}}, and {{npa3}} templates may be appropriate for new users; for long-term editors, it's preferable to write something rather than using a standard template. Reports of unwarned editors may be removed.
    4. If the behavior hasn't stopped, add the following header to the New Reports section of this page in the following format:
      ==={{User|NAME OF USER}}=== replacing NAME OF USER with the user name or IP address concerned, with a brief reason for listing below. Be sure to include diffs.
    5. If an editor removes the IP or username and doesn't handle the matter to your satisfaction, take it to the editor's talk page or the administrators' noticeboard, but do not re-list the user here.
    6. NB - Due to misunderstanding of these instructions and/or mis-use of this process, comments not in strict adhereance to these instructions WILL be removed. This page deals only with personal attacks under the policy WP:NPA. Reports deemed to be inappropriate for this page are liable to be moved to an appropriate venue where one exists.


    For those reported on this page:

    1. A reviewer or an administrator will review each report on this page. In dealing with the report, the contribution history of the reported user shall be checked along with the diffs provided in the report. Where no personal attack is evident, then no action will be taken - however, should an administrator see that another seperate issue is evident, appropriate action or advice for that issue may be taken/given at his or her discretion and in line with wiki policy.
    2. Reports on this page stand on their own merits in accordance with Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. As such, disputes and discussions over reports are not suitable for this page except for such comments left by admins or reviewers describing their actions and/or findings. If you notice your account reported at this page, please trust that the administrators and reviewers dealing with reports will deal with it in an even-handed and fair manner on the basis of policy alone. If you feel strongly that another "side to the story", issue, or another piece of information is missing from a report please refrain from posting here, and instead leave your comment on your talk page under the title NPA Report or another other clear and related title. The reviewing party will see this message and take it into account where applicable.

    For users handling assistance requests:

    1. For each of the users linked here, open their contributions and check for personal attacks. Also check if the users have been sufficiently warned for the current personal attack and whether they've continued to commit personal attacks after being warned.
    2. Note that there is an important difference between a user who makes many good contributions and a few personal attacks, and a user whose last edits are (nearly) all personal attacks or other conflict.
    3. Do nothing, warn them again, or, if you are an adminstrator, block the user in question as you think is required. Explain things carefully to the user who listed the attacker if you feel there's been a misunderstanding.
    4. Move the report to the Open Reports section and give an update to the status of the report.
    5. Delete old reports that have been dealt with.

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    New reports

    Riveros11

    I am an ex-member of an Eastern-based cult organization called the Brahma Kumaris that teaches and believes in World Destruction by Nuclear Holocaust, the incarnation of God into their founder, that they are the only true messangers, that they and they alone will inherit heaven on earth etc, etc etc. All the usual stuff. I have been documenting the group on the Misplaced Pages as a matter of public interest. Under the protection granted for personal attack under relgious persecution I wouldike to ask to have comments made and this Brahma Kumari teacher stopped from making them. He has gone on a campaign of exposure cross posting on public forums for recovering members attempting to expose and connect my IP address with administrators or contributors of it and publishing email on the Misplaced Pages in an unsubstantiate manner. I have not issued the npa shortcut and I did write extensive about personal attacks, explain why and asking him to remove all his offending and revealing statments. I have not removed any offending statements for fear of criticism but consider that I am under a "shoot the messanger" type attack where the cult cannot kill the message. I have gone out of my way to provide clear referencable citations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University#Personal_Attacks_and_NPOV http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72855765

    He also uses a number of IP address including latterly 72.91.28.223

    He seems to have enrolled an ally searchin man who goes on to call me a " most bitter and twisted element ".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72892492

    Thank you. 195.82.106.244 05:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

    Open reports

    Holywarrior (talk · contribs)

    I believe that his edit on admin User:Blnguyen's page diff

    Is a violation of WP:NPA and is an attack against myself. he has made similar attacks before in his edit summaries to the Kancha Ilaiah article I have warned him but he has reverted the change with a threatening edit summary.

    this diff.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Kancha_Ilaiah&action=history

    He has made threats of libel and bogus defwarns against me before Here:

    Here:

    He changed his stance suddenly and said that the edits were "in bad faith" whereas all good faith efforts were made

    Here: When another user reverted the changes back, he makes accusations of libel, which, I believe, constitute a legal threat and are a violation of Misplaced Pages: No legal threats.

    Then he made allegations in the talk page that did not even make any coherent sense to me (or, for that matter, to any of the other involved parties).

    In other edits , he said "revert as per talk page", yet no legitimate reason was provided in the talk page, nor a single coherent sentence that qualifies as a logical argument.

    I repeatedly requested him to debate the matter sensibly, but he has just kept re-iterating his accusations in the article talk page.

    I request administrator intervention. Thank you and good morning.Hkelkar 11:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

    I don't want to indulge in any talk with this person.All this person needs is a block for cheating the system.HW 11:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    By the way, the above post is by the subject of the complaint User:Holywarrior.Hkelkar 13:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    The dispute is already being mediated by a user User:Ben W Bell. My complaint here is not regarding the dispute. It is regarding his incivil tone and his personal attacks, which I feel must be addressed independent of the ongoing dispute resolution process.Hkelkar 13:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    I assume good faith that user:Hkelkar is perhaps a very new user and does not know much about wikipedia policies so he keeps repeating mistakes like this.since none of the diffs suggest any policy violation,The complaint should soon be closed and this person be asked to stop misguiding others.HW 13:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    By the way, the above post is by the subject of the complaint User:Holywarrior.Hkelkar 13:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    And the relevance of that earlier issue (which, by the way, was decided as a 3RR violation in spirit by admin) here is ...? (other than an obvious attempt at coloring my alleged 'character')Hkelkar 13:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    Since this user:Hkelkar has a history of cheating and misrepresenting facts,I choose not to answer any allegations put against me.But anybody before deciding may contact me regarding allegations.Thanks.HW 13:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
    • It would be best if everyone worked with the mediator to resolve the dispute. In the meantime, please try to remain civil with each other and focus your comments on the article itself, not on the other editors. You might try focusing on your concerns with the article and writing up your discussion for the changes you'd like to see happen. Shell 15:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

    T. Turner

    T. Turner has not only engaged in personal attacks and been warned for them, he is now engaged in libel.

    To explain. T Turner, or someone associated with him used a web site to stuff my personal phone text message box filled with threatening messages with a bogus return number. I had my phone provider block text messages, and the creaky legal structure to trace down some possibly related harrassing voice messages originating from a blocked ID has started. Now Turner is going around wikipedia tell people that I have created Ray Lopez harrassment as a fraud. and

    I am no way related to the "Ray Lopez" attacks that Stirling has been bringing up against me. I disagreed with Stirling related to his handling of . I agreed with a fellow editor's actions on this article, and let that editor know that I supported him. Shortly after that, Stirling leaves this note on my talk page. I noticed this note today, to which I decided to do a little research on the man that accused me of "harassment." I noticed that the "Ray Lopez" character disappeared when Stirling disappeared, then reappeared when Stirling reappeared. Using simple research tools, I discovered that this "Ray Lopez" guy was logging in from a domain registered in Stirling's hometown. I decided to point this out, because I felt Stirling was abusing the "Personal Attacks" policy a little too much. After bringing this subject up for debate, Stirling proceeded to make legal threats on this very page and on this user talk page: . I registered this account because I wanted to contribute more to this encylopedia, in the area of economics and social practices, but yet, I realize that it may just be too much trouble to edit under a registered name - the second you disagree with someone, he proceeds to accuse you of personal attacks, harassment, and then makes legal threats? Not really the standards related to a warm "Misplaced Pages" welcome. T Turner 21:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
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