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== 'Among courtesan classes' ==

What are 'courtesan classes' in India? The word 'courtesan' is not a synonym of "courtly".] (]) 12:50, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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Under attack from users Water Fish and Rrjanbiah who indiscriminately erase (but do not add anything) all external links section. The external links contain highly relevant, unique and valuable resources (text, photo and web video). ----Bharata natyam 20:27, 15 Nov 2004

The so called Bharatanatyam external links and Bharatanatyam resources are advertisement and partisan promotion of a dancer named Medha Hari. Such spam cannot be used as a link in the wikipedia. The wikipedia is not a platform for advertisement and promotions. The purpose of these links is to promote the sales of cds and a young performer who is not even a major dancer.

the inward links to page Medha hari has probably been created by the same author, it is very easy to create several links to a spam on the wikipedia. One should not be deceived by them.

the user id User:RalphWWW, User:Geosammie, User:Serge56 User:JuliaJ, User:Thegist, User:Bharata natyam were all created since 13th november 2004. It seems they are all created by the same person who has done considerable vandalism from 219.65.124.***;

By definition, linking to webpages devoted to the promotion of a single dancer is spam. It is surely not helpful and is definitely advertisement. Moreover the wikipedia gives bibliography to textbooks dealing with topics. These Reference textbooks are not spam, they are treatise on a subject.

listing on open directory or Looksmart page or Google and professional directories like Narthaki.com, can be done, it is never taken as a criterion to validate authenticity or to be listed on an encyclopaedia. Misplaced Pages is well aware of such acts by people to legitimise their personal views. Water Fish 19:48, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC) 

   Rrjanbiah/Water Fish,
   why do you delete wholesale the whole secion of the external links? Most of these links 
   have nothing to do with Medha Hari.    
   I personally added a link to the Mudra's web site that you erased.
        So, what is the point?
   The point is that Rrjanbiah-Water Fish erases everything wholesale. 
   Myself, I never 'deleted the reference texts'.
   Bharata natyam 02:59, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hey, User:Water Fish,User:Rrjanbiah did you realize that 13th november was because normal people, who work on weekdays, may like to browse the Web on weekends????

Serge56 04:36, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Tagging

The author is blatantly sticking to his cooked up theories and more cheeky, is accusing me of vandalism. I am new to wiki and didnt know of the talk page when i made my first few edits. Later I have discussed my concerns on the talk page too...but have met with stubborn silence. Hence tagging this page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.232.187 (talk • contribs) 2006-01-26t03:59:29z (UTC)

Issue being discussed

  • the author provides spurious 'proof' in the name of two links to advance his baseless argument tha BN originated in TN. my concerns vis a vis this so called 'proof' or links which supposedly 'seal' the deal are somewhere below on this page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.232.187 (talk • contribs) 2006-01-26t04:03:54z (UTC)

VANDALISM!!!

STOP IT!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! ****PROVE**** TO ME BN ORIGINATED IN TN...I DONT CARE FOR "ALL THE BOOKS" U READ!!! THE LINK YOU HAVE GIVEN IS BULLSHIT!!! YES BULLSHIT!!! WIKI IS NOT YOUR PRIVATE BATHROOM TO ATTRIBUTE EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD TO TAMIL/TAMILIANS/TAMILNADU!!!

THE LINK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AND WHICH YOU SAY 'SEALS' THE MATTER, DOESNT SPEAK A WORD ABOUT BN'S ORIGINS!!! I AM REVERTING THIS AND IF YOU TELL ME ITS VANDALISM AM GOING TO THE ADMINS!!!

WHEN I CHANGED IT THE FIRS TIME U SAID I HAVE TO DISCUSS IT IN THE TALK PAGE BEFORE I REVERT....THEN I CAME AND POSTED IN THE TALK PAGE TOO. NO REPLY FROM YOU...THEN I CHANGED THE ARTICLE AND YOU COME AND TELL ME ITS VANDALISM!!! GO TAKE A JUMP!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.232.187 (talk • contribs) 2006-01-25t10:14:59z (UTC)

Slapping a hoax tag on a page is not an appropriate action because you disagree with one statement on it

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.0.184.11 (talk • contribs) 2006-02-06t01:33:53z (UTC)

Languages Used

bharatanatya is performed to karnatic(karnataka) music...and karnatic music was formulated and given a shape/grammar/syntax by the great Kannada saint and Father of Indian Classical Music, Shri. Puranadara Dasa...and Purandara Dasa composed *solely* in Kannada....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.232.187 (talk • contribs) 2006-02-09t08:18:18z (UTC)

STOP MAKING BASELESS CLAIMS IN FAVOUR OF TAMIL...

while i do not disagree that tamil is also one of the languages used in bharatanatya, the claim that tamil is the language that is 'predominantly' used is probablly incorrect!! Avoid making incorrect claims... (Provide citations as needed)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.107.97.37 (talk • contribs) 2006-09-22t15:56:35z (UTC)

I guess anyone would like to take credit for this ancient art

For the past 20 years i always taught Bharatanatyam was one of Thamils greatest cultural contribution to Indian culture. I guess nationalism,or better southern nationalism, wins.

http://www.tamilnation.org/culture/dance/index.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.28.214.94 (talk • contribs) 2006-03-07t10:27:49z (UTC)

Requested move 17 June 2016
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SSTflyer 10:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)


Bharata Natyam → Bharatanatyam – Bharatanatyam is the more common name. While Encyclopedia Britannica seems to prefer the current name, they are mostly alone. The earlier move to this name didn't seem to attract any attention, so it happened by default, therefore I'm requesting a move back to the original title. The following table is a comparison of some sources in the different variants of English. Also, MOS:TIES should be applicable here as this is a topic that has a significant tie to the country (India). India's national academy of music and dance -- Sangeet Natak Akademi uses Bharatanatyam almost exclusively. —SpacemanSpiff 14:26, 17 June 2016 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Adding a comparison table:

Source English variant Usage for Bharata Natyam Usage for Bharatanatyam
The New York Times American 270 326
The Washington Post American 52 60
The Sydney Morning Herald Australian 5 9
BBC British 28 125
The Hindu Indian (MOS:TIES) 180 16,100
The Times of India Indian (MOS:TIES) 106 4,430

That should be about enough for now. —SpacemanSpiff 14:26, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Relisting comment. Nominator makes a very good case and if this goes another week without any participation it will be moved, but seeing as this has been discussed several times in the past I thought it best to give it another week. Jenks24 (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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