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| In my short time here, I've already seen rapid reversals as "vandalism" of contributions that did not trash the page, but just posted an extreme position guarded by a cogent defensible argument. Dismissing a position as "no one thinks that", is obviously untrue, someone just did think that, and if the status quo is correct, then it should assist them in crystalizing their arguments to be able to cogently respond to the position they view as "extreme". --] 03:47, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC) | In my short time here, I've already seen rapid reversals as "vandalism" of contributions that did not trash the page, but just posted an extreme position guarded by a cogent defensible argument. Dismissing a position as "no one thinks that", is obviously untrue, someone just did think that, and if the status quo is correct, then it should assist them in crystalizing their arguments to be able to cogently respond to the position they view as "extreme". --] 03:47, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC) | ||
| ==Where do you stand?== | |||
| For village pump style gossip value, my stance: | |||
| * Moderate eventualist; though I agree with some of both moderate immediatist and extreme eventualist positions, so high waffle factor; | |||
| * Moderate Statusquoist (established articles are traditions, they have inertia that the wise tackle on the talk pages first); | |||
| * Encyclopedist: community is important, but it subordinate to the informational mission; | |||
| * Authorist: first providers of content have an understanding of what they have said that normally deserves consideration; | |||
| * Rehabilist: trolls should be dealt with decisively, but immature and POV contributors too often get coloured as trolls; | |||
| * WikiPacifist: there is never a good reason for breaking the 3rv rule. | |||
| And a suggestion: how about anonymism for anti-authorism? | |||
| Other stances sought. ---- ] 01:14, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC) | |||
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Is there any middle ground between communityism and encylopedianism? ] 14:54, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Presumably. I didn't see need to elaborate moderate versions of each since it wouldn't have clarified much, if that's what you mean. VV 20:22, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- For the last distinction, I like communalism/bazaarism versus cathedralism, but I might've been influenced by a certain influential paper :)
Is there a place where the philosophy of wikipedia is discussed?
Thanx for this excellant framework for discussion. If wikipedia is an attempt to replicate the dryness of the world book for free and without plagerism (sp?), then wiki is the wrong mechanism. Perhaps the community can develop a culture that adds some order upon the chaotic freedom of wiki, but the choice of wiki should be acknowledged as commiting one to communityism, anti-status-quoism, enventualism and non-authorsism.
In my short time here, I've already seen rapid reversals as "vandalism" of contributions that did not trash the page, but just posted an extreme position guarded by a cogent defensible argument. Dismissing a position as "no one thinks that", is obviously untrue, someone just did think that, and if the status quo is correct, then it should assist them in crystalizing their arguments to be able to cogently respond to the position they view as "extreme". --Silverback 03:47, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Where do you stand?
For village pump style gossip value, my stance:
- Moderate eventualist; though I agree with some of both moderate immediatist and extreme eventualist positions, so high waffle factor;
- Moderate Statusquoist (established articles are traditions, they have inertia that the wise tackle on the talk pages first);
- Encyclopedist: community is important, but it subordinate to the informational mission;
- Authorist: first providers of content have an understanding of what they have said that normally deserves consideration;
- Rehabilist: trolls should be dealt with decisively, but immature and POV contributors too often get coloured as trolls;
- WikiPacifist: there is never a good reason for breaking the 3rv rule.
And a suggestion: how about anonymism for anti-authorism?
Other stances sought. ---- Charles Stewart 01:14, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)