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Thank you.

There are many few non-Muslim maintining neutral view towards Islamic articles. It is my pleasure to find you. Thank you. --- Faisal 17:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you :). --a.n.o.n.y.m 17:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Can you explain to me, why you keep restoring a personal attack me on Irishpunktom's userpage? -- Karl Meier 19:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It's his user page, editing it is vandalism. And I don't "keep restoring"; I reverted once. Ask him to remove it or get another opinion, but don't do it yourself. Thanks. --a.n.o.n.y.m 19:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I ask you again to please quit harassing me, by restoring personal remarks regarding me on Irishpunktom's userpage. Nobody own any pages here on Misplaced Pages, and personal attacks can be removed on sight. If you keep harassing me, and insist on restoring these personal remarks/attacks on Irishpunktom's userpage, then I'll have to make a complaint on the administrators noticeboard about your and Irishpunktoms behavior, and bring it to the attention of a broader range of Wikipedians. -- Karl Meier 19:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You think that reverting someone's edits to a user's page is harrassment even if if it's done once?

About four other editors have also reverted you. I remember you had a very racist link on your userpage once that you absolutely refused to take off even when administators warned you. You can not edit his page, please ask him to remove it. I have nicely responded to your answer. Good bye. --a.n.o.n.y.m 19:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It is true that there is several members of the "Muslims Guild" that has insisted on readding the personal attacks against me, but until now you are the only administrator that has done it. In my opinion it makes it much more serious, as administrators should be expected to be experienced users, that didn't engaged in such behavior (harassment/personal attacks and remarks). Regarding the external link, I have already agreed to remove it from my userpage a long time. In my opinion it wasn't racist, it was just an angry response to the violent attacks that happend just because of a few cartoons. This being said, I have already admittet that it was wrong that I placed the external link on my userpage, and it surely doesn't give editors such as you and Irishpunktom the right to harass me months after I removed the link. Please end your insults against me. -- Karl Meier 19:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You aren't allowed to edit another person's page and that's it. Don't do it because if he reports you will be blocked for vandalism. And please stop exagerrating one revert by me as harassment. I might have prevented you from being blocked. --a.n.o.n.y.m 19:54, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You don't own any pages on Misplaced Pages, and personal attacks can be removed on sight whereever they are. If you feel that I vandalize Irishpunktoms userpage by removing a personal attack against me, then please file a report on "vandalism in progress" or quit your false accusations against me. It's bad enough that you restore these personal attacks. -- Karl Meier 20:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be removed but me reverting one of your edits to someone else's user page is not harassment even if you are biased enough to think so. You should have asked another editor or admin to remove them for you. Not do it yourself when three or four different editors have told you not to do so. --a.n.o.n.y.m 20:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

If you where not "biased" as you call it, and if you really believe it should be removed, then I don't think you would have restored it. The plain and simple facts are that Irishpunktom made a personal attack against me on his userpage, and that you insisted that it should stay there. You even used one of your admin tools (the rollback feature) to insist on having this personal attack against me on Irishpunktoms userpage. -- Karl Meier 20:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

IMPRESSED very MUCH WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AND ANALYSIS

I am very much impressed with your thoughts on Islamic Terrorism and on other points.I have gone through the INTELLIGENT ANALYSIS of the problem with the reference at one place, with syrprise. You have good collected the material as well as reference the sites at one place which earlier I have not seen. I will go through because I want to know more about the Islamic Terrorism and Islamic Extremeist. I am with you and support you. Keep this sprit always.

Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review#User:Raphael1/Wikiethics

Since you previously showed interest in the former proposed policy Wikiethics, I'd like to inform you about this deletion review. Raphael1 15:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Where are you?

Where are you these days. Without you they are becoming stronger and I am missing you. They are going to unprotect Muhammad article. They want to pust their stuff in. Please stop its unprotection and ready for reverting their POVs. I hope to see you soon around. --- Faisal 11:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

undelete

Salam bro. Don't you think we should undelete Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Sahaba's ancestors? I put quite much time on it, and are proud of it, i belive its to usefull to be deleted. Im trying to see what people think before taking it to undeleteANI. What to you think?--Striver 08:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protect South Central Farm

That anon has been making those edits for the last few days. The page was semi-protected for a while which helped, but it was recently lifted. Can you keep an eye on that page and if it happens again, semi-protect again? The Ungovernable Force 06:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! The Ungovernable Force 06:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Accusations of personal attacks

I see that you have accused me of calling other Wikipedians "names". That is a very serious accusation and I would like you to substanciate it, or withdraw it. Please provide a diff where I call any Wikipedian any disrespectful names, or quit making any such false accusations against me. -- Karl Meier 11:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Category marked for deletion

You may be interested.

Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_16#Category:People_killed_by_or_on_behalf_of_Muhammad

BhaiSaab 00:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Irishpunktom/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 10:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

--Pilot|guy 22:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Misplaced Pages:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

fyi

Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review/Log/2006_June_26#Sahaba.27s_ancestors --Striver 20:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy Canada Day

Happy Canada Day, though I see you're (hopefully just) on a wikibreak. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 01:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

India -> India + Pakistan + Bangladesh_India_+_Pakistan_+_Bangladesh-2006-07-06T10:46:00.000Z">

I and User:Rama's Arrow were discussing linkage of pages to India when refer to pre-1947 India (undivided India). Please have a look at discussion, and comment. You can also invite user interested in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. Following is statement to start:

India after 1947 consists of three countries, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. When we use word India, in articles, refereeing to whole India, links are such that they bring us to present day India (Republic of India), reducing size of pre-1947 India considerably. Is it possible that when we refer to pre-1947 India we use a term which encompasses whole India not just present day India? Please comment.

Following are suggestions:

• British India
• Indian Subcontinent
• Undivided India
• or disamg page of India.

--Spasage 10:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)_India_+_Pakistan_+_Bangladesh"> _India_+_Pakistan_+_Bangladesh">

i personally suggest undivided india nids 13:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)_India_+_Pakistan_+_Bangladesh"> _India_+_Pakistan_+_Bangladesh">

Hey there

Back again. Hope all is well with you and yours. BYT 10:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not say in this case silence is more musical than the music. I trust you are all right. --Bhadani 15:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Does any one has any information about him? --Bhadani 12:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

banu qaynuqa/banu nadir dispute

السلام عليكم

the banu qaynuqa article is currently set to develop into perhaps a full-scale edit war. this is in relation to (the same) content present in both the banu nadir and banu qaynuqa articles. the specific section of focus was something i had offered to discuss and suggest alternatives for (on talk:banu nadir), which could then be modified and analysed for suitability . unfortunately this has not really seemed to work and now this is exactly the same content being reverted back on forth on banu qaynuqa. would it be o.k to request protection of the banu qaynuqa article (which is currently the condition with Banu Nadir), or at least the section, until the dispute is resolved? what other courses of action would you suggest (i'm still pretty much a newbie to WP)?

we tried mediation for the banu nadir article in hopes to settle the dispute but it seems that the opposing party isn't particularly interested in working to build a consensus article. at this point in time.. it seems that the mediation process is stagnating. what is your opinion of this and what steps do you recommend be taken in order to resolve the ongoing dispute? thank you ITAQALLAH 15:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey. Do you have any idea that he has not come to edit from 17th June 2006. I am worried a lot. --Bhadani 16:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

indeed... i realised that a little after posting when i saw his contribs... i do hope nothing's wrong and that he is okay and doing well.. ITAQALLAH 18:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Article

Hi. I have created a new article that will surely be afd'd very soon, and i would appreciate some help improving it before it happens: Controversial Israeli and Zionist quotes --Striver 13:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any idea about his whereabouts? --Bhadani 16:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

August Esperanza Newsletter

Help request

Hello Anonymous editor, I understand you are an administrator and in that capacity I am requesting your assistance. I have become involved in a very heated debate regarding an article I had previously nominated for AfD. During and after the AfD I have come in frequent conflict with User:Travb who questions my conduct on Misplaced Pages. I am not requesting assistance in any content dispute but I would very much like an outsider to review this matter and I would appreciate you looking into it. For some of the relevant links pertaining to this please see this and this. The thread on the admin noticeboard is getting to be a rehashing of the entire thing and no admins have responded substantially yet.

My sole concern here is the intimidating tactics employed by Travb, his telling me what to do and think, threatening to know I will be booted from WP (I know it is just intimidation tactics but that's just what concerns me). He uses derogatory terms to describe those who don't share his POV and dismisses them and employs tactics like keeping tabs on how many words I add and delete from articles and implying that when someone doesn't add anything to an article that they cannot delete inappropriate content. I have not been totally civil myself perhaps and I can feel myself getting more and more uncivil in this matter and I do not like that one bit.

Even though I have been on WP almost a year now, I am not too familiar with what steps to take in dispute resolution and I do not know where else to turn but directly to an admin. If you cannot help I would appreciate a nudge in the right direction. Apologies for the length of this post on your talk page. Thank you, Kalsermar 00:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi admin, sorry to drag you into this. This users request was ignored by everyone but User:Jkelly on Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Admin_help_requested, who recommended a RfC, which I have started. I also started mediation, and ask two other mediators I worked with before to mediate the article.

Kalsermar, If you feel that I have treated you unfairly, and you need support, I strongly suggest an advocate , they have helped me and others before: Misplaced Pages:Association of Members' Advocates. You can also e-mail those who share your POV on the disputed page and work on strategies to counter my work. You are not alone on wikipedia.

Sorry again admin for bothering you.Travb (talk) 02:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hateful comments

Hey. I want to report hateful, anti-Muslim comments made by User:Subhash bose on User talk:Haphar. I have no clue what to do with it, since I can't find any policy page on Misplaced Pages dealing with these types of comments.

• "I'm not upset about fundamentalism in Islam because there is no fundamentalism in Islam. Islam ITSELF is 'fundamentalist', in the sense of Intolerance, Slaughter, Looting, Arson, Molestation of women, ie I-S-L-A-M. The very word 'ISLAM' means 'submission to God'. Well I, for one, refuse to submit to their god through the UPA government. Sammihit Bharat!"
• "The claim of Islamic 'fundamentalism' gives rise to the illusion that there is a 'non-fundamental' kind of Islam. There is only one kind of Islam. The kind that blows things up."

Thank you, Mar de Sin 02:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, check out Haphar's anti-Semitic racist comments about the mythical "Jewish Lobby" (which is regarded as an anti-Semitic slur). I confronted him about it here. He has tried to engage in some sort of McCarthyist rally against myself in several talk pages here here and got admonished by other users here. He has frequently engaged in ad-Hominem attacks against myself in my talk pages (I have them archived), as well as various other talk pages throughout wikipedia. His behaviour points to a psycho-pathological leftist fanaticism and a potentially dangerous anti-Semitic obsession with this nonexistent "Jewish Lobby" thing.Netaji 23:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Please give the indivdual edit that Haphar made, instead of pages. The evidence for "some sort of McCarthyist rally against myself" are your own edits, showing your deletion of Haphar's previous edits. Also, users are entitled to believe what they want about anything (like Haphar to the Israel lobby, which is just a term, not a rigid organization), but they should not make attacks. You, on your own talk page (Archive 2), made numerous anti-Islamic/Arab comments ], while i did not see a single anti-Jewish, -Hindu, -Indian, etc. comment made by others (I haven't read the entire thing, so I may be wrong). Thank you. Mar de Sin 01:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi all. Do you know that he has not done any edit from 17th June 2006? Any one having any clue about AE. --Bhadani 14:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Islamic Barnstar Award

Please offer your opinion, vote, or whatever about your choice for the image to be used with the Islamic Barnstar Award at the Barnstar proposals page. Although there is consensus for the concept of an Islamic Barnstar Award, some editors would like to change the image for the award. I was just thinking you should be aware of this discussion because you have contributed to Islamic-related articles, received the Islamic Barnstar Award, or have contributed to the Islam-related Wikiprojects, etc.--JuanMuslim 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Info on Islamophobic group

Hello,

What follows are the sentiments, expressed in their own words, and in the 'protest signs', of the obscure, very small, but very vocal 'activist group' known as "Protest Warrior".

"What's becoming clear is how the religion of Islam is addicted to war and mayhem. Not a radical minority, not a rogue sect, but its very essence is about submission and sacrifice and proving your worth by worshipping death in this life to gain a paradise of orgies and drunkenness. Their entire history is of warfare, and any accomplishments of their so-called Golden Age has been proven to be merely parasitic off the cultures they've conquered and reduced to dhimmi servitude. That every country under sharia is corrupt, belligerent, desolate and barbaric obviously gives them no pause, except to constantly drive them into further psychotic rage as they refuse to ever accept any responsibility for their conditions. They are akin to the powers in Orwell's 1984; there must always be an enemy. It's no surprise that women are treated like property in these countries as that's the only way Muslim men can feed their egos, to dominate others rather than ever actually produce something."

Kfir Alfia and Alan Lipton, founders of "Protest Warrior"

Their 'protest signs'...

Signs

I thought you might be interested in this group's sentiments. They are currently very actively editing their own article on Wiki and there is a lot of 'group think'. Perhaps you might want to become involved in the editing and discussion process on that page. If you do, please don't vandalize, and try to remain civil. Should you not want to involve youself, please forgive my intrusion.

Protest Warrior

Protest Warrior Discussion

NBGPWS 08:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Anonymous,
Just to let you know that something has come of your and KI's encouragement earlier this year. Thank you for making the initial suggestion!
Best wishes, David Kernow 04:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok. that is fine. But I fail to understand the reason for no edit from AE from 17.06.06. I am worried a lot. --Bhadani 13:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)