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Re: Sexual Assault Survivors’ Rights Act

Hello Mr. Vernon,

Thanks for reaching out to me. I'm aware of the existing article. However, that article's title is incorrect, since the name of the law is Survivors' Bill of Rights Act of 2016. I'm a member of the nonprofit organization called Rise, who has been driving the movement to get the legislation signed by President Obama. I work directly with Amanda Ngyuen, who is the key person involved in this work. Amanda and I have just worked on creating the content for this new article and are committed to enhancing the content in the future. Could we possibly work together to merge the two articles into one, hopefully the new one that I just wanted to publish?

Thanks,

--Jaeminsung (talk) 03:07, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Ah ok, so here's the rub. You have a conflict of interest with the bill - you can read WP:COI to read about Misplaced Pages's conflict of interest policy. Keep in mind in any case you are strongly discouraged from editing the article because of this COI, but if you wish to proceed - you have to declare that you are involved with this bill directly (you've told me but you need to inform Misplaced Pages as well), and go through a few more hoops. Please go to WP:COI, read it and follow the instructions - you'll need to follow a few steps but other editors have done it. While there, you might also ask about the article renaming if it isn't the final bill name - unfortunately it's not something I can do easily, but an admin should be able to assist. Good luck and please let me know if you have questions that I can answer. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:09, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello from Anna

Hello there. We keep crossing paths lately. A pleasure to make your acquaintance. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

A pleasure here as well! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:17, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Productive, been around forever, clean blocklog, friendly, why aren't you an admin yet? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:27, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

I took a pretty long break for the past few years. I've also never asked to be an admin - it's not something I've ever thought about really. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:30, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Ah, yes. 2013-14-15, no activity. Well, maybe consider waiting a few months then adding your name to Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll to see. After all, you've been here 10 years 10 months with 16,546 edits. That should count. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:45, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

If you are listening, question - I think it would be helpful (as part of anti-vandal patrol) to see the number of characters changed, not the difference in article size. I think some vandals are exploiting this, saying "minor changes" with "-1 characters" and then it turns out they've disparaged a BLP page. Assuming this idea hasn't been proposed before, where would I propose it? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

A very interesting idea indeed! Good thinking! Why not bring it up at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (idea lab)? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

response to message on sexual fantasy

hi, this is in response to your message. I'm not sure how else to reply yet. i am new to wikipedia and was trying to see what you deleted. didn't mean to undelete the stuff you did but when i saw it was undeleted, i tried to undo it. i thought i was successful but sorry if it wasn't, please feel free to redelete the stuff and no im not User:Verity345 . i just wanted to see what had been changed.QuuenChris (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2016 (UTC)QuuenChrisQuuenChris (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

A7

Hello, this is regarding the article Yun Bai:

This doesn't meet A7 because it contains multiple credible claims of significance, such as notable publication LA Weekly naming her one of the top 10 emerging artists and solo/two person exhibitions at notable art galleries, among others. Since speedy deletion is inherently a bit of a bitey process, it's best to use PROD or AfD if it doesn't strictly meet a speedy deletion criterion. If you're unclear about A7, Adam9007's essay is a good read; otherwise just be careful about speedy deletion. Besides that, thanks for reviewing new pages! Appable (talk) 22:25, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for writing back! It looks like they improved the article a bit. There does seem to be an art with these, I've AfD'd articles before and seen that they should have been SD'd. Apologies for wasting your time. The AfD is up if you wish to participate. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 22:52, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

No problem, thanks! I'll look into the artist over the next day or so (sometimes articles can be buried) and then put in my view. Appable (talk) 06:10, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

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Apologies and help

Hello. I'm apologies if I do something wrong, I'm new in Misplaced Pages, I'm from Spain and I read everything in our Misplaced Pages (in spanish). I'm trying to write a biography about an american artist (Kyle Krone) and I have received a message what tell me that I'm using multiple accounts. However it's not true. I'm a new user. I don't understand this problem... I'm working with this artist and I would like to write this biography but if any sentence is not correct, please let me know. I can delete it. Now I have any reference for the veracity of the biography. Please, could you help me? Thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricia.martinh (talk • contribs) 17:42, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I can try to help. First, may I ask what you mean by "working with the artist"? You're in touch with him? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 17:44, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Patricia.martinh (talk) 00:15, 27 November 2016 (UTC)Yes. I mean I'm in touch with the artist. We usually talk by email and I'm working with his music press in Spain and he asked me if I could help him with his wikipedia biography. He tried but he didn't know how to do it.Patricia.martinh (talk) 00:15, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Ah, ok. What you have is a "conflict of interest" since you are working with the artist and his music press. You just need to go to WP:COI and read this - it doesn't mean you can't edit his page, but you do have to declare that you have a conflict of interest, whether you are being paid to do this work, and so on. I would also mention this on the Sockpuppetry page - if they can verify this, they will close the case (it means I thought you and Kyle were the same person because you were making the same edits.) You may get a bit more scrutiny over what you contribute because everything has to be factual and encyclopedic in nature; some of what his press has written sounds very promotional in tone, which is perfectly fine for his website but not for Misplaced Pages. Last, thank you for being honest with us, and good luck. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Vernon, I understood the conflict of interest. I read it and explained everything on the Sockpuppetry page like you said me. Hope to do it well. And you right about what his press has written about him. I understand better now. Let me know if I can do it something more. Thanks a lot for your help.Patricia.martinh (talk) 11:41, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Greater Wynnewood Exotic Animal Park

Mr Vernon,

My name is Jeff Lowe, I am the new owner of the park. I'm requesting that MY edits be left alone. This is no longer the zoo that the Misplaced Pages page describes. It's under completely new ownership and we have been battling the reputation of the old park. How fair would it be if the old owners of your current home, showed up to paint it a different color than you just painted it? The park that this page describes was closed down and no longer exists. The "greater Wynnewood exotic animal park" is not the Garold Wayne Zoo. If you want to build a page that critiques the former park, feel free, but MY park should not be automatically associated with the old zoo.

If it takes legal action to have Misplaced Pages stop tying me to the former zoo, so be it. If these corrections are going to be reverted back to the opinions of those who have no association with my park, I will be forced to take legal action.

Jeff Lowe (405) 207-4362 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.30.100.33 (talk) 00:10, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I anticipate Mr. Lowe will be back, probably as a new IP addy. He should read WP:NLT, WP:COI, and then should post constructive suggestions for change to the article to its talk page - Talk:Greater Wynnewood Exotic Animal Park - more than simply bleating that there is no "good press". He should not expect the park's history to be whitewashed, nor should he expect PETA's concerns to disappear because they're not a government agency. He can either engage constructively or find that in effect he is not engaging at all - his call. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Melanie Melanson

Hi, Please change the title Mr Vernon, but please be ready to combat the speedy deletion.

User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:Ping Davidgoodheart Moved. This is an older case so I'm not sure how many sources are still around. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:39, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanking you, and speedy deletion

Hi thank you for changing the title, but will there be a speedy deletion tag issued, it happened with my last two articles User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:42, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I can't say that. I'll watch the page, if a speedy comes up I'll take a look at it. There are still news articles on her disappearance from this year so I don't think there will be an issue with notability. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:44, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

If you catch it before me, WP:N/CA is what this article falls into for notability. -- Dane2007 02:47, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

NPR

Hi. Thank you for attacking the monumental backlog I hva noticed gowever that you are patrolling very quickly. In some instances as many as 14 article er minute or one on an averge of of every 4.28 seconds. WE know that it is not possible to do a quality review and check all that needs to be checked in such a short time. Please slow down. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:30, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Ah, yes. Those are links that an editor added for Pakistani senate members; since these meet notability guidelines inherently for politicians, and the article contents are for the most part stubs with basic information (e.g. no BLP issues), these were easy to check and could be verified in bulk (check list for 5 names, patrol five articles.) Trust me, I am not doing it that quickly for most articles. That being said, I will slow down and if you want I can go back and unpatrol these. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:35, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I had not been spying on your patrolling but i was drawn to it when I arrived to delete PB Tha Hitman for which I have declined the CSD. I then noticed the general speed of all your reviews. Please understand that even if we have a monumental backlog, a backlog is preferable to inaccurate tagging or patrolling. The purpose of using Page Curation is also to notify the users of why you are tagging their articles. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

He may have left for the evening. Perhaps move it into his draftspace? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:13, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Akhdut

Hello Mr. Vernon. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Akhdut, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: While I agree with the WP:A7 tag, I think that this contested speedy deletion should be dealt with in an WP:AFD discussion. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:22, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The page I created accidentally overrode something!

So sorry Mr. Vernon.

I was creating a page https://en.wikipedia.org/Christopher_Morris and it accidentally overwrote the list of Christopher Morris'

All I want to do is create a page for Christopher Morris, I just needed to be more accurate with my title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trumpmichigan (talk • contribs) 06:45, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

It's been reverted. If you go into the history for that page (go to the top bar->view history), you can see your old edits and create a new page. Note that you (it sounds like you are Christopher Morris) need to follow the instructions on WP:COI (basically you need to state that you have a conflict of interest with the subject of the article.) You should also read WP:BIO to see if you meet general notability guidelines for having an article on Misplaced Pages. And last, I would highly advise you to change your username. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:47, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

The HUMAN Project Deletion

Hi there,

The Human Project page had speedy deletion and we were wondering what was wrong with it and what we could fix so that we aren't deleted again.

Nyuiisdm (talk) 22:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Hey Mr Vernon, me from 9 days ago . . . so I made the minimal changes to the original page about me . . . took out the incorrect info, made it as neutral as possible and stuck a load of references in. I also added a photo with an agreed terms of use in . . . the photo has been taken off, some of the links are gone and it says at the top of the page that it has been heavily edited by someone close to the content of the page . . . well, that's me obviously but I was hoping that with your agreement, it was all okay. Can I add these things again? Is it possible to remove the weird 'someone has edited this etc etc' thing. It just looks as though I set the page up and am a vain megalomania haha! At this rate, I'd rather not have anything on Misplaced Pages . . . it's been a nightmare. I have several other media colleagues in the UK who have been through the same issues, apparently - they said it can be done but might take some time. Any advice or help, please? you were great last time. BenGarrod (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello - those are good questions and a bit above my pay grade, so to speak. I would go to WP:COIN and ask these questions, they should be able to assist and they are the experts on Misplaced Pages policy for this kind of thing. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 00:00, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION

THE EXISTENCE OF PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION IS NOT ENDORSED BY MAINSTREAM PSYCHOLOGY OR BY MAINSTREAM PSYCHIATRY

WIKIPEDIA IS IGNORANT AND STUPID THAT IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF THE FACTS