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:I think yes. The accounts that only produce vandalism should be banned permanently. On the brighter side of things is that nobody prevents an indef blocked user with two edits to register a new account if he ever decided to reform ] 22:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC) :I think yes. The accounts that only produce vandalism should be banned permanently. On the brighter side of things is that nobody prevents an indef blocked user with two edits to register a new account if he ever decided to reform ] 22:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

== Holodomor ==

By what right you delete Category:Genocide from ] article. Even if you are an admin of Wiki, you have no power and right to neglect the law.
Any discussions are profitable before the law was accepted. But now law says: "Holomor is a genocide", so be so kind not edit the Holodomor article.--] 10:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Note.
*Massacres in Ruanda and Holocost are recognized as a genocide in UN
*Armenian genocide, Holodomor, ethnic cleaning in former Yugoslavia are recognizes as genocides by law of several countries
*Massacres of Mongols in the 13 century are called democide and aren't recognized as genocide--] 10:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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Bit of Bonny

I think a little bit of Bonny: User: 202.54.242.186 and User: 125.178.86.75. Zello 16:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

and User: 203.101.12.30 is also him. Zello 17:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Wumbo

Another thing he's doing is messing with Pope Benedict XVI and with Template:Popes, foisting some cockamamie legend about a future Pope called Petrus Romanus. Since you blocked him before, maybe you could do it again. Wahkeenah 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Open proxies

Thanks for your help. BTW, on Satu Mare and Oradea, Anonimu is in gross violation of the 3RR. There's a backlog at WP:AN/3RR - could you block him? —Khoikhoi 10:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Done abakharev 11:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Wow, thanks a million. I'm going to get some sleep now. спокойной ночи! BTW, is Готтенто́ты "Hottentot" in Russian and кой-коин "Khoikhoi"? —Khoikhoi 11:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Have a good night. Готтентоты are plural, the singular will be готтентот (male) ок готтентотка (female). I never saw the word кой-коин in Russian before, but I guess Ru-Wiki is right. Thanks for the explanation, I actually did not know where your nick came from abakharev 11:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

My Edit Here

Alex, I could not get to those comments about the Georgian alias of Bonaparte (he also wrote in Chechnya) and noticed here that the link to archive 8 did not work. That was caused by a simple typo, which I corrected. I hope you are not offended, as it was done in good faith. Feel free to delete these words here of mine. I felt I had to explain, though. --Pan Gerwazy 12:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Pan, thanks a lot! It is the second time I do the same error in formatting the refs to the archive. The previous was for the Archive7, I should be more careful abakharev 01:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:UsernameBlockedEmail

Where does it say this is against policy? Why should it be prohibited? —Centrx→talk • 18:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

  • WP:USERNAME#Inappropriate_usernames. I see a few reasons:
    1. By having an email username the email becomes an instant target for spammers, it might be used to create problem for other people
    2. Email username can be used to pretend to be somebody else. I guess there are many Alex Bakharevs on internet but only one Alex_Bakharev@gmail.com
    3. Email username can be used for spam and advertisements. E.g. john@inkcartrige.com is an advertisement for both inkcartrige.com and for john as a sales rep, nickname zanuda@livejournal.com is an advertisement for the correspondent blog and for the site livejournal, etc.
    4. Email as a username is usually long and ugly abakharev 01:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Understandable, but most of them are the true person with that e-mail and isn't advertising. Anyway, the reason I noticed this is because I saw one person who moved their account (username changing) after getting a {{WelcomeEmail}}, and then right after someone who was just summarily blocked who, if they hadn't received a scare-off message could have become a productive contributor. —Centrx→talk • 02:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I stopped patrolling of email usernames, there are just to many of them, it is a job for a bot not a human being. I am for the changes in the software, that would not allow symbols "@" and "." in the username as well as non-ASCII symbols abakharev 02:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

File:Scarlettanager99.jpg Hello, Alex, and thank you for the support and flattering comments on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 01:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

GIen's RfA: Thank you!


Alex Bakharev for your Support!
I I feel truly humbled & honored by your support in my RfA, which closed at 90 / 5 / 0. Thank you! If you need me for anything, just say the word. For now however, just like Mr Potter here:
My mop & I shall thwart all evil :)
IThank you once again my friend. GIen

PS: YES YOU'RE RIGHT HARRY POTTER USES A BROOM! (BUT GOOD MOPS ARE HARD TO FIND!!)

Kurt reloaded

Kurt is back from his block, and the first thing he did was to start a nasty revert war on Benito Mussolini. Sigh... -- Grafikm 14:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Revert war in Pluto

Hi! Can you please take a look at an incident in Pluto. The User:Ryulong violated 3RR in this article in spite I warned him before his last edit. I have reported the 3RR violation here:, but It doesen't work and it seems that an admin sided with other party. Can you please take an attention on the suject?--Nixer 11:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

This user appears to have something against me now. Please see the discussion this user has started at WP:ANI about this same situation. Ryūlóng 11:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Alex, I'm the admin involved. Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Revert_war_in_Pluto for links to relevant discussions and background. Feel free to contribute, but this is a bit of a storm in a teacup now that the revert warring has stopped. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 11:36, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Revert warring has not stopped as the party violated the rules still keeps their owen version of the article.--Nixer 11:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Cactus.man, see my message on WP:AN/I abakharev 12:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The RFPP disruption block

I can see that you had blocked this range for 8 hours. However, the vandalism and disruption that comes from this range has gone on for the past few days because of the protection of Paul Skalic, in which this user's original IP was in an edit war, and he has gone and vandalized many other pages. I may be wrong, but this range may require a lengthier block. Ryūlóng 10:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


I really, really (!) don't appreciate censorship

You would be much more efective when you'll be ready to listen for once what I have to say concerning Skalic!

Just read this text under, and remove injust "protection" of Paul Skalic article


Paul Skalić

An Stbalbach user from believse Paul Skalic's nationality is controversal, although many distinctive slavists, linguists, croatists and other scientists think differently! Those "authoritative sources" mentioned by Stbalbach are Britannica and Encarta- but he is missing to point that these facts are actually very outdated hence there is, at least one very serious scientific work ( of mr. Zubrinic) that corroborate that Skalic is, in fact, really Croat. Also there is confirmation of Croatian Ministry of Science and Technology of that fact. On the end, I really don't know which "number of other editors" think same as he is. As I have seen, there was many controversy about this kind of text even before, so I think that you should remove this protection hence it is really unnecessary. It is only a new contribution to the evil blood between various editors, and not to mention that it seems that this looks like a censorship! If info. provided in the text is true/objective it would survive, if not... but that's the spirit of W.


ALEX, you really, really have a nice personal page..... ;)

Be nice and cool

Regards

Hello

Hi Alex! Could you please block that IP 144.122.30.134

He has deleted everyone's comments: .

And he has vanadalized three times my user page:

Thanks and regards. Kachik 15:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm...I see. OK, I'll try. Thanks. :) Kachik 21:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

3RR Block

Sure, I respect your judgment. I do think some block is in order, but a reduction would be OK...what would you recommend? alphaChimp 02:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I gave 12. She really had a ton of reverts. alphaChimp 02:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
That is fair abakharev 02:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your efforts about solution. Cпасибо! :) --Kachik 17:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Btw Alex, how could I find the e-mail of any administrator or such as yours? --Kachik 18:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA message

My RfA video message

Stephen B Streater 08:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Pahlen

Thank you so much. That is definately him (in the meantime, I had managed to find a site that gave "F.P." as his initials). I will add the info about him in Wallachia-Moldavia to your article.

Your info on Novorossia could be accurate, given that the status of the two countries did not change until they adopted the Organic statute in 1831; however, it may be that they simply had "militarily occupied" status, pending a decision of their future regime (the sources I read point out that Russia kept an administration in Romania and over Silistra as a mortgage, to ensure the payment of debts by the Ottomans). Dahn 11:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Move Request

Hello there; I just made a mistake attempting to complete a move request. I was on talk page reviewing a move request and decided to fulfill it. However, I clicked the tab on the talk page and typed in the article (forgetting that would move the talk page into the article space). Since you appear to be an admin online right now, could you correct the mistake (perhaps moving the talk page back to talk space, deleting the redirect page, and moving the article to the new name). The attempted move was Serious Sam Enemy biographies → List of enemies in Serious Sam. Thanks in advance. -- tariqabjotu 01:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for deleting my talk, it will spare me the trouble of having to remember many bad things. ILovePlankton 02:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

User Kurt Leyman

Violated 3RR on Battle of Berlin today - 4 reverts within 24 hours including three today. I made a note on his talk page. I think you may have been the last admin to block him for this violation. DMorpheus 03:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I have blocked him for one month since it is not the only article he violated 3RR on as well because of his history of disruptive edits and 3RR violations abakharev 03:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

(comment)

I know I ask you for a crap-load of favors, however (:p), could you protect the Kardzhali article? Some user called Valkov has been removing the Turkish name for months now, although the city has a Turkish majority, and because of that, Turkish has special status there. I have tried to contact Valkov but to no avail. Therefore, I think full protection would be the best option now.

Thanks again Alex. Please let me know if there's any favors you need from me. —Khoikhoi 00:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Just once I decided not to follow your advise. It does not seems right to protect an article because of one POV-pusher. If he will continue blanking, I will block him for vandalism abakharev 00:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I see what you mean. Thanks. BTW, did you notice the two latest Bonny socks? Jayjg got him this time. —Khoikhoi 00:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

disruptive user

I was wondering if I can have your opinion on the disrputive user here. Couple of weeks back, one of his articles was deleted because of NOR and POV and possible copy right violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=72737054

He also broke the 3RR rule and I am wondering why no action has yet to be taken against him.

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali doostzadeh (talk • contribs) abakharev 02:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I have blocked the User:Barefact for 24h for the 3rr violation. Maybe an RfC would be a better way to address the content dispute, I am affraid I am not an expert on Iranian history and can make an error of judgement here abakharev 02:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. You seem to know Slavic history well. Here is some bogus theories from barefact's website . He is trying to insert his nationalistic false information and polemics in different wikipedia pages.--alidoostzadeh 23:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, his off-wiki theories are his business, unless he is trying to bring them to wikipedia abakharev 01:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately that is what he is trying to do in , {Scythian], , ..for example see the long talk page on Ossetic. I have warned him numerous times about the NOR policy of wikipedia. Thanks for your help. --alidoostzadeh 14:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

144.122.30.134 / e104421

Hi Alex, Could you have a look at here please, your name was brought in and I can't see anything on your talk about it. Just came about after I reverted for deleting warnings of his/her user page. Cheers Khukri 13:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. He seemed to take everything on I said so I didn't want to go too far with him, as seemed very reasonable in the end. Thanks for the heads up. Khukri 21:27, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Please explain...

...at Template talk:PD-USSR why you think that the quote from Podshibikin/Leontiev backed that template. Lupo 18:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Alkonost

I was recently editing this article which you mostly wrote and some of it seemed to be identical to this article (listed as a source from the first edit.) You seem have added to the article line by line over a few days yet the linked article claims not to have changed since 1998. Can you shed any light on what happened here, please? Thanks --Cherry blossom tree 22:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It was one of my first articles (I started wikiediting in June 2005 and the Alkonost is of July), inspired by the Viktor Vasnetsov article. That is why I worked slowly. The Encyclopedia Mythica article was one of the sources of the Alkonost. I was trying to retell it rather than copy-paste, but after looking back it appears that I could do a better job in it. Thanks for the rewording abakharev 01:29, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I was just curious, that's all. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 18:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Aircea

I think User: Aircea is Bonny again. He was blocked for 24 hours because of disruptive behaviour by another admin (Slovakization article). He created sockpuppet tags and put up on other user's page without checkuser evidence. I think that's unacceptable. If there are real sockpuppets among Hungarian users then we need to block them after the right process was done. But until that this kind of accusations are really harmful. You can see on User: Juro's talk page that by now almost EVERY Hungarian user was charged with sockpuppetry. If you can do something to clear of the situation that would be really great. Zello 17:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

My 3rr

My apologies for 3rr, definitely not intentional slip. I was discussing the subject for 2 weeks and had warned that if the contender(s) would not bring verifiable proofs, I would restore the contents to their original shape. I would surely appreciate any advice. Barefact 21:22, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to the moderator to write here. But you don't seem to understand that you can't cut & paste Original research from your site www.turkicworld.org when you also know it is rejected universally by scholars (per your own admission). That is wikipedia has a NOR policy. As per your quote in Scythian, the user codex took it and we actually fixed it in . Note Agathyrsi is not related to Scythians by most accounts and neither is akatziri related to agathyrsi or khazars by modern scholars. So I recommend any insertion should be discussed (and of course sourced by factual modern western materials). --alidoostzadeh 00:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


Dear Alex, Please take a look here . Barefact is again conducting OR. Also there exists an article with this title already and this here: . He does not have any verfiable statements and I have shown many of his quotes have been forgeries. Either way he needs to make his statements in Massagetes article which already exist. --alidoostzadeh 08:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I think we need to merge the articles. It might be sort of a heated debate, but we need to settle what data are backed by WP:RS and which are not. abakharev 09:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Discretion blocks by Admins RfC

As you were following the article's edit dispute, I invite you to comment on the Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Discretion blocks by admins I have just started. Please take a look and consider writing an outside view there and/or co-signing others' statement. TIA, --Irpen 22:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


Request about Armed Conflict and Proselitization

Dear Alex Bakharev,

I request you to allow some time for the article to develop. Please reconsider your decision to recommend the article for deletion.

--Whitesurf 18:44, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Soviet Articles

Salutations! Thanks for helping my articles. ДО CВИДÁНИЯ! Hempfel 23:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)User:Hempfel

Another request

Hi Alex. I'd like to move Armenian-Turkish Relations to Armenian-Turkish relations (grammar). Could you merge the edit histories? Thanks in advance. —Khoikhoi 18:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...I guess you're taking my advise again! :p —Khoikhoi 22:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Move request

Dear Alex. How are you? Is it possible to move Georgian people to simply Georgians? reason: More appropriate title for artcle about Georgians. Most people will look for Georgians in search engine rather than Georgian people. We do have Russians, Greeks, Italians and Armenians. Same should applies for Georgians. Thanks in advance for your help. All the best. Ldingley 20:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Alex, thanks a lot for your help. I really appreciate your attention. Thanks again Alex. Dosvidaniya, balshoi spasiba drug :) Ldingley 14:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Template:Mediationnote1

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Misplaced Pages.

With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you.

(Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp 01:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Winhunter's RfA thanks

Hi Alex_Bakharev, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful today with a finaly tally of (56/0/3). I will be very careful at first to avoid any mistakes. Please feel free to leave a message in my talk page if you have any comments/suggestions about me in the future. Once again, thank you! --WinHunter 09:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Sockpoppetting

Hi, Alex, the person with address 85.102.104.205 is a sockpuppet of the user Kachik, a banned user, who made a mess of the main equipment section as done before to Turkish navy. You can compare his/her changes of the Turkish Army article. For me sockpuppeting is obvious. e104421 6 September 2006, 20:03 (UTC)


Note on adding full Eastern Orthodox Project to your watchlist

This is a note for members of the Eastern Orthodox Project: Since the project's main page has been converted to a portal-style box format, each of the boxes is actually its own page (you can see the page outside its box by clicking the 'Edit' link on any often the section boxes on the project page, which takes you to the edit page for its contents). Because of this, updates to individual box contents will not necessarily show up on editors' watchlists, if you've only got the main project page watched.

In order to keep up to date with all updates to the Project and its pages, I'd recommend adding each subpage to your watchlists. These are:

If you add all of the above pages to your watchlist, you should be informed whenever any part of the WikiProject Eastern Christianity is edited/updated. To discuss this, please see the relavent section of the Project's talk page. —Antonios Aigyptos 09:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK?

Updated DYK query On 7 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Igor Gorynin, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Nice article! --Daniel.Bryant 09:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

85.107.214.53

Dear Alex, I'm sure this ip is the sockpuppet of the user Kachik, but lets wait for a while, i shall try to talk with him, maybe he'll understand the wikipedia principles and give up this exaggeration habit. i'm also against to him, because of him my account was blocked you know. However, i shall try to assume good will and prefer to wait. We can discuss about this after seeing his future contributions. I'll watch his contributions and inform you if i observe any vandalism. Regards. e104421

  • I understand your feelings but block him/her anyway. Avoiding blocks is not a method of reforming. If Kachik wants to renounce deliberate hoaxing he should do it openly and the block might be lifted (I do not know what misdeeds he deed as the permabanned Ioanna account) abakharev 21:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, you're very experienced in this business. Yes, he should try to learn at least the basic principles, being honest. However, what will happen if uses random ip. Should we always check the articles he try to modify? I'll try to check them (turkish military articles), if i see any problems, i'll give you a shout. e104421 7 September 2006 (UTC) 21:48

'Eugen Slutsky' article

Hi Alex. A long time ago you contributed the Russian language spelling of Eugen Slutsky's name to his article. A recent anonomous user has deleted the Russian, and replaced it with Ukranian language spelling. That may be a correct thing to do, or not. I don't know. I have started a discussion on the Slutsky talk page. Please weigh in if you have something to add. (By the way, I can send anyone who wants a copy of the Vincent Barnett (2004) journal article (English) on Slutsky. It may only be available via academic sources.) Best wishes, N2e 16:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much Alex for weighing in on the article. Great wikisolution! N2e 03:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Proposed community ban on Nixer

Hi! You can read my reply here: --Nixer 17:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


Erika Steinbach

Yes, Alex, I am getting bolder all the time. There has been a revert war going on at that page about how to call her place of birth, which was in an area annexed by Germany in 1940. If you have a problem with that version being mine (actually, I only corrected a grammar error), I would prefer the last version by user:Piotrus () to be the protected version, and not one with an obvious mistake in it. Note that on the talk page 3 people have already agreed to protect it. Thanks even for just considering my request.--Pan Gerwazy 20:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. You are great. Now we must try to find some common ground, and that will not be easy. --Pan Gerwazy 21:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

dyk

Updated DYK query On 10 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dmitry Chernov, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.


Review of Russian artist articles

Thanks for your work on Nikolai Fechin and Gavriil Gorelov! I've added a few more Russian artists, namely Aleksie Gritsai, Mai Dantsig, Fedor Antonov, Grigori Zozulya, and Aleksandr Makovski which might benefit from a once-over by someone with Russian language expertise such as yourself Erudy 23:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

RfArb statement

RE: . Things changed significantly in the past few days, probably because Tony filing the request was a shot across the bow for SlimVirgin (and to a lesser extent Jayjg.) I would prefer if it didn't go to arbitration if things remain as they are.

Btw I notice you have an interest in fluid simulation. I actually write fluid simulators for a living -- see . Best. --Ben Houston 11:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Max Eider

I can't find any explanation of why you deleted this article. As far as I recall, I stuck to the facts.

  • It was a dated WP:PROD. Somebody prposed to delete it on 22 of August and nobody contested it for a week. I can restore the article into your userspace or even totally restore it and put on AfD, although usually Prodded articles have little chanses to survive AfD abakharev 14:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Nikolai Sergeyev

Hi. This article is almost fully copy-pasted from here. What has to be done with it? Blacklake 06:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Blocking of User:Miccola

A user with two edits, and no repeat offenses after a first warning blocked permanently? Is that really the way the policies work? -Harmil 14:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I think yes. The accounts that only produce vandalism should be banned permanently. On the brighter side of things is that nobody prevents an indef blocked user with two edits to register a new account if he ever decided to reform abakharev 22:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Holodomor

By what right you delete Category:Genocide from Holodomor article. Even if you are an admin of Wiki, you have no power and right to neglect the law. Any discussions are profitable before the law was accepted. But now law says: "Holomor is a genocide", so be so kind not edit the Holodomor article.--133.41.4.46 10:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Note.

  • Massacres in Ruanda and Holocost are recognized as a genocide in UN
  • Armenian genocide, Holodomor, ethnic cleaning in former Yugoslavia are recognizes as genocides by law of several countries
  • Massacres of Mongols in the 13 century are called democide and aren't recognized as genocide--133.41.4.46 10:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)