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Origins of Marathas

Hi NRS!

I've seen Marathas being referred to as Indo-Scythians over the internet, MS Encarata says they are descendents of Sakas. Thats what the original article which was started by me, reflected. But Impu insists that Marathas are or Dravidian stock. Even though i'm a Maratha myself, i'm not knoledgeable since i've been born and broughtup in UK. Looking forward to you take on this.

अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 14:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi AmBroodey, thanks for looking up on the Maratha origins issue. As far as I know, Marathas are of mixed descent, but majority of Marathas are of either Scythian or Aryan descent. I know there are people of other descents like Hunnic, Dravidian, Sino or even Parthian origin in the Maratha community. But, that has not been too much researched into. But we all know that many Saka rituals have been absorbed into the Maratha culture. And we Marathas use the Saka calender as well. This is a fact. And as far as Aryan descent is concerned, com'on, Marathi is an Indo-Aryan language. Certainly, Scythians did not start the Marathi community, but they were an important factor in the origination of Maratha clan. The claim that Marathas are Dravidians is a big joke. When Marathi itself is an Indo-Aryan language, how can one say that Marathas are Dravidian ? Also, why should one feel bad about having Aryan or Scythian origins. The whole issue raised by ImpuMozhi is personal opinion and POV. I have observed the development of a few articles esp. Maratha and ] closely and I felt that ImpuMozhi and others of his ilk have been trying to disassociate the words Scythian and Aryan from the Maratha. I don't know why. Perhaps, because ImpuMozhi seems to be a Dravidian (Just check his User Page, he calls himself a native speaker of Tamil or Telugu or some other Dravidian language I dont remember), he wants all the Marathas to be called Dravidians or indigeneous people (in his opinion). As far as I believe, it means that nobody is indigeneous. Does this mean that certain Pakistanis are foriegners in their own land, does this mean Americans are foriegners in their own land, does this mean Mestizos are foriegners in Mexico, does this mean Hispanics are foreigners in Latin America ???? This argument of being a foreigner is totally flawed. And especially when you're talking about migrations of people who roamed the world more that two millenia ago. Why even the Dravidians did migrate from somewhere. They were not just born onto the earth. And at a time when we all believe that all races did emanate from a single race, this proposition just doesn't hold. Isn't it.

I know you'd started the Maratha article with traditional and historical accuracy. And I also know that some people have vandalised and corrupted it. And at a time when everyone knows that Marathas are Aryans, isn't it a regression that Misplaced Pages doesn't state this and instead makes us believe that Marathas are Dravidians ?? I've nothing against "being of Dravidian". Why, even some of my own relatives or ansectors may be of Dravidian descent. But the whole question is about historical and cultural accuracy. Tell me, why aren't there as many Dravidian elements in Maharashtrian culture as there are Aryan or Scythian elements ? It's because, majority of Marathas are of Scythian or Aryan origin.

But, I must say that I do not agree with the statement that "because the rajputs were scythians, the marathas must have been white huns". This is certainly a statement that would've hurt the nationalistic sentiments of all the Marathas. Well, even I am disappointed. Then what about the so-called nationalistic hawks. We don't need any James Tod to speculate on who we are, especially when it becomes, "who we are, we are, because we are not what others are or because others are what we are not".

Either way, the article on Marathas has been severely morphed with all the references to Aryan and Scythian origins cleaned away. It has been done in a constitutional manner (as opposed to the vandals). We need to revamp and rewrite that article again. I guess you can work on it. I've given you the necessary information on Maratha origins, and also explained the perceptions and prejudices of certain minds. You do start the revamp soon. I will add any information that I have to the article. Also feel free to reply me and ask me about anything else. New Rock Star 17:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thks

for invitation . Nasz 08:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

maha rattas vs. maha rathis

Please do not revert other ppls work without proper citations and references. Please provide the ref of your statement, and let others vet them. Till then let the original remain. Once it has been peer reviewed by the usual suspects, we can replace the orig with yr statement.

This applies especially for cntentious and controversial sections such as origin of names.

And as far as I know Marathi, rathi was not a word in the older versions of marathi language, though I might be wrong.

Pizzadeliveryboy 15:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

You certainly are wrong. New Rock Star 18:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

My mistake - I was reading it as Maha Ratt(h)a and not Mahar (and) Ratta.....Mahar Ratta is surely wrong - I havent found a ref to that POV nonsense anywhere except in some personal page in tripod....so that will go. However, rathi too is wrong since the correct word for charrioteer is sarathi, not rathi....rathi means valiant/great warrior.

Till the issue is settled with correct refernces, we will keep this out of the article.

Pizzadeliveryboy 19:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

History of India

Hey New Rock Star! Good start with Gautamiputra Satkarni! Hoping to see you around on the project! deeptrivia (talk) 05:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Of course! Feel free to make any changes anywhere! It's your project :) deeptrivia (talk) 05:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Please add the project talk page to your watchlist to keep in touch with what's happening on the project. Cheers! deeptrivia (talk) 03:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Aryans / scythians

NRS I posted a link about aryan inv theory on talk maratha. Did you read it? Marathas are not aryans (as the word aryan means in the west i.e have origins in bactria/europe) and neither are rajputs and there is no relation with scythians also. There is a lot of misinformation out there so do not trust random bits. What is your real name? Shivraj Singh 11:39, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Open tasks in History of India project

Just to update you on the current status of the project, here's a list of the current open tasks. Please contribute towards completing them, and feel free to add more to this list. deeptrivia (talk) 04:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

for invitation. Namaste! Aum.en 20:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Our First Single...........

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Regarding Classic Metal

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Regards, Gothic Hero 16:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. : And, I forgot to add, but User:Leyasu thinks I am your sockpuppet ! Wow, what an imagination. Here's the statement where he quoted it - " I assume either your new to Misplaced Pages, or your a sock puppet of New Rock Star".

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THX for message

Hi man. I received your message, thanks. First off, I am not a fan of Judas Priest nor any druggie bum, no matter how good music they make. Nor of anyone else for that matter. I do like music though, and have other interests as well. I'm quite busy, but I may take a look at your project. CYA, Www.jpfo.org

Greetings

Holi greetings. --Bhadani 13:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Marathas

Well there is some idiot accusing me of anti-Maratha bias at Maratha article. He is busy swamping he article with Sambhaji Brgade propganda. Please take a look. File:England flag large.png अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 07:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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Metal Poll

Hello there. I am an overseer of your brain. I have come to tell you that the Wikimetal Project is holding a poll on the inclusion of certain genres on the heavy metal template and footer that goes onto metal related articles. This poll has a closing date, however, and so here i am, reminding you to vote if you want to, by pumping strange chemicals through your veins. Its hard work being a brain you know!

If you would like to help in this crucial part of the project, the page is here. No, thats not it? Oh my! I posted those pictures of myself, what a devil i am. No the actuall link is here on this link.

I guess ill see you at breakfest when you finally recover from Misplaced Pages. Bye for now body, your Brain 07:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you help me create a article

Since you are the creator on wiki project Heavy metal. I need help creating a article on The Monolith Deathcult it was one of the articles that needed creating. I have creating the article 3 times. I'm a kind of new member to the project (I joined on June 2) so might not know a lot of things. Leave me a message on my talk page. -- Metal Maiden 21:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hard Rock

Would you like to join my wikiproject on Hard rock BritisH PunK 17:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Iron Maiden

You're right, I did act hastily without looking further into the matter. I'll keep that in mind.

BTW, don't forget to add an edit summary next time. The first time you put classic metal you didn't provide an edit summary. Most of your other edits do not have an edit summary as well. — Prodigenous Zee - 13:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism

Welcome to WikiProject Hinduism

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--D-Boy 08:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Vedic metal

You might be interested in expanding it...--D-Boy 10:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Llanfair

Wales - CrazyRussian talk/email 10:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:SIG

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August Esperanza Newsletter

Sorry

Should've looked a bit harder, sorry, mistakes happen. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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Nu Metal

I have heard similar arguments against Hair Metal bands in the 80's, the reality is stylistic and finicial motivations aside, if you look solely at the Music of the Nu Metal bands, the show the same agression the same favor of loud heavy sounds as Metal.

No they are not a form of Extreme Metal, nor are they in my opinion Good. However, they are as heavy as Blue Oyster Cult. They use speeded tempos, they do make use of drums and guitar in a manner that is similar to Metal.

Talking about rebellion and such has nothing to do with Metal Music, but metal culture. Nu Metal probably doesn't have a place in Culture of Metal, but it is a Form of metal music. Alos, you speak of niavety, but surely you must know the story of the NSBM movment in Norway and its torrent of flames and blood? There is nothing niave about it. Are Nu Metal acts more intrested in money? I don't know, Metallica thinks its wrong ot copy its songs without permission now that they are big...so, do they stop being metal now that they want money?

Or how about Ozzy allowing a show about his family to be broadcasted on MTV (owned by Time/Warner)? Isn't that a form of selling out? Does that make him and Black Sabbath no longer metal?

Or what about bands like: Demon Hunter, Antestor, As I Lay Dying all of whom sing about Christ, after all chrisitian is part of the "establishment" isn't it? Atechi 17:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Can you help on the Cheema article?

Hi, I was wondering if you can help on the Cheema article. It needs cleaning up, etc. And footnotes added currently which I don't know how its done. Maybe you can get other members also to help out thanks. --Street Scholar 18:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Tagging

Please share your insights with the guy who is tagging "Rashtrakuta" page even before he can provide his arguements. I have been trying to explain to him about this too. Also, I only intend to add info from my source. Whether it makes you happy or unhappy is not my purpose or intention. History cant be hidden just because one community does not like it.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Barnstar

Thanks for ur barnstar!I am used to receive warnings from Kannadi vandalisers like DineshKannambhadi or Sarvagnya, ur Barnstar is surely a relief!

BTW I just added few names to the article created by the user Arya Rajya Maharashtra.It is really nice to meet like-minded and proud Maharashtrians here.

Jai Maharashtra. mahawiki 17:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)