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See the diff between my ver+Wadekar and Arya's ver . See the diff between my ver+Wadekar and Arya's ver .
Things like "Director extra ordinaire", "Greatest" of Satavahana kings etc., are blatantly POV or need to be referenced. Same goes for titles like "goal poacher" etc., which is certainly not 'common knowledge'. ] 08:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Things like "Director extra ordinaire", "Greatest" of Satavahana kings etc., are blatantly POV or need to be referenced. Same goes for titles like "goal poacher" etc., which is certainly not 'common knowledge'. ] 08:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok.Thanks for ur info.
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I'll still be minding the articles I contributed with my wiki-pencil, to prevent it from being degenerated. This is at User:Blnguyen/Contributions. These will not be let go of, as it is the ultimate point for being here! Aside from that I will still be keeping an eye on what nobody else seems willing to keep an eye on. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Virender Sehwag - This will never improve unless more people comment. I came here to write, so bagging the article would be helpful rather than soothing my ego.


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Blnguyen (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has been an administrator since 29 May 2006.

The recent semi-protection of the Mahatma Gandhi and full protection of the Military budget of the People's Republic of China and Human rights in the People's Republic of China articles which I enacted here, here and here due to vandalism and edit-warring was reported in the Indian media and the New York Times


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Wikibreak

Have fun. -- I@n 08:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Enjoy! But come back soon. Lots of religious hostilities waiting you. ;-) -- thunderboltz 09:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Hope that wiki-drama hasn't upset you too much. Look forward to seeing you back soon -- Samir धर्म 10:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Come back soon. Hope your break cheers you up. Take care. - Aksi_great (talk) 13:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Take a long holiday. You have been working too hard :-) Tintin (talk) 14:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
(pile on). :) —Khoikhoi 23:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I'll miss you man.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
It is good to see that you are controlling your Wikiholicism. Gizza 01:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Make it as long as you need it to be. :) Sam Vimes | Address me 08:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. Enjoy your well-deserved wikibreak. Sango123 13:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
But do come back .... Agathoclea 21:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

quick hook on blocking pages?

HI,

I'm wondering what the criteria for accepting a page protection request is. Doesn't automagic acceptance of a request mean that one unhappy camper can thumb his/her nose at the world, at will? What if (for a hypothetical example....) a page is up for "Good Article" review, and someone doesn't want the topic to receive that staus...? Just wondering --Ling.Nut 13:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Forget my question. have a nice break. --Ling.Nut 14:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Delete decision for "The Road to Tyranny"

Hi there, I have a few questions about the rationale you put forward for the deletion of that article . Thanks. PizzaMargherita 07:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Have a really good break. Don't stay away forever because I will miss you :)-Dakota 05:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Me too... take care B... ++Lar: t/c 15:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (50/3/0). If you have any further questions or suggestions, feel free to write me. I hope I will live up to your trust. Michael 01:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

America's Next Top Model

I notice that you changed the ANTM template, which I also wanted to do, but didn't for want of knowing how to unprotect. Some realitycrufter has reversed all your changes, resulting in many double-redirects which I am sure you also wanted to avoid. As deleted candidates' namespace is now always redirected to the program's main page, it would be useful if you restored your changes and reprotected it. Thanks Ohconfucius 03:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Anniversary

Your kind words of 18.09.06: Hello Bhadani. Well it has been a year since you became an Admin. You are a wonderful contributor, one of the best we have, which is proven in the contributions log, despite what anybody else or the general populace may think. Take care, Blnguyen

Thank you friend. I wish that you shall be back properly wiki-rested! And, with all the new ideas to make the Project still better. Have a nice time. --Bhadani 13:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Questions on record

  1. Which, according to you are important records in Batting??
  2. Why was the golden arm term removed. It is told by reputed cricket sources. If well establish cricket writers refer him by one word, it should be taken as such. Remember that Rahul Dravid or Sehwag is not referred by that term. Please note that I have already explained this in the talk section. Don't say that it gives an image as if he is a great bowler to those who don't know about cricket.

"Man with a golden arm" is a description. When he has broken more than one partnership, any bowler can be called with that term. I don't think that it is a NPOV problem. If the sentence had been "he is a bowler who always breaks partnership" that is a different story. THe description "with golden arm" is usually applied to "part time bowlers" who get wickets of well settled batsmen. The term is not used for the regular bowlers. You can read the old literature and will find that Srilanka's man with golden arm was De Silva (and Not Vaas or Murali) and Australians used that term for Mark Waugh (and not McGrath and Warne) and Mike Clarke (he has so far taken 8 wickets in 20 matches) and in Windies it will be Viv Richards and not Walsh. Hence this is just a FACT. Only if we tell that "Mr.Tendulkar is a bowler who breaks partnerships as soon as he is called to bowl" that will be not be a Neutral Point of View. You cannot ordinarily write this term (golden arm) on the article of Murali or Warne or Walsh. They are bowlers who can get any batsman out. I am sure that now the confusion is cleared.

Please read the line I have given "Inspite of his bowling average....." IF someone gets an impression that a person with just 37 wickets in 132 matches (that is one wicket every 8 innings) with a bowling average of over 40 "is a great bowler", it is the fault of the reader. If the term golden arm had been in the first stanza of the article without the other details (which very well tell that the person described is a part time bowler), that can cause some confusion. But in the present scenario, it is just a fact and has no NPOV problems.

Sachin tendulkar does not have a higher rate of taking wickets that break partnerships when you compare him with Muralitharan or Agarkar who are bowlers. If he has something like that, he will be termed as an allrounder and not a batsman with a golden arm. Is that clear. The NPOV issue arises only if we say that Sachin is a genuine test bowler or an allrounder (then only we can compare him with Courtney Walsh or Imran Khan. The term "golden arm" is not limited to ONLY ONE PLAYER (that is the person with maximum wickets or minimum average etc). It is a much general term

First of all, the description "golden arm" is not a rigid description that can be "proved" with statistics. As I have repeatedly told you, there is no "criteria" that exists to tell a player as "someone with a golden arm". The term is used for batsman who occasionally bowl and break partnerships. THis is the most I can explain. Other facts (including citations) have been already given by me.

It means that a batsman, who is not a regular bowler, occasionally breaks partnership. Sachin is definitely inferior to Kapil and Kumble at breaking partnership. That is a fact. But Kapil and Kumble are not called with the term because Kapil is an allrounder and Kumble a bowler. On the other hand, Sachin is better than Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman, Sadagopan Ramesh, Kambli, Gavaskar etc at breaking partnership, and that is the reason cricket wrtiers (not me and you) have given this term to him. The same is true about Clarke, who is an inferior bowler compared to McGrath and Warne. Yet Warne and McGrath are not called as men with golden arm, because they are bowlers. On the other hand Clarke is better than, (for example) Hayden and Ponting and hence called with the term. Is this clear.

Sachin Tendulkar's Golden Arm

The single handed has been modified to another match. I am sure that every one agrees with the contribution in this match. Please don't ask a question as if no one else fielded in the match and whether he was the only person in the stadium. By the way, I am not able to understand as to your edits regarding Golden Arm. It is a term used by reputed Cricket Writers and it was well quoted. I had given more than one citation for that also. Why was that removed. Any sensible explanation ????. One explanation that is damn stupid is telling that "it may mislead those who don't know anything about cricket and they may think that he is a great bowler". Please don't give that explanation... PLEASE..... Rejecting a well known and well established fact with a hypothetical theory that a newbie may misunderstand seems very awkward. If you go like this, then when you say caught at mid wicket, some one new to cricket may think that the batsman was caught between the stumps and hence mid wicket violates NPOV etc. Similarly, a person who is new to cricket may think that Fine leg means Aiswarya Rai. If you think carefully, every (or most) term in cricket has another meaning outside cricket. Citing POV telling that those not knowing cricket my misunderstand is a very bad argument. If you have any other opinion tell us. Or else, please revert yourself. As a respect for you, I am not reverting this edit (Golden Arm) myself. Doctor BrunoTalk 14:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Replied on Tendulkar talk page.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Non-notable collectible card game players

I noticed that you recently participated in the discussion of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Roy St. Clair (4th nomination). You may also be interested in the following discussions for the following collectible card game players:

Thank you. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 19:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Too late....Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Notability

Thank you for providing me with a reasonable explanation of Misplaced Pages's standards for notability and inclusion. I appreciate your tact and brevity. Everything else I read, provided by other admin, was inconclusive and didn't support their argument. You, however, have convinced me that Misplaced Pages policy does extend to this issue. Thank you. Chriswurst 06:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks B

Hey Blnguyen, thankyou so much for your message and for your awesome support at my RfA. I feel so humbled by the number of awesome editors and administrators who supported me and I just hope I don't let anyone down. Please give me a tap on the shoulder if you notice me stuff anything up! If I'd known that I would only need one more support to overtake your tally, I would have done some campaiging! I'm sure I could have found ONE vote SOMEWHERE!! :) Cheers B, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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Marathi people article

Thanks for ur reply. But a important questiom,do i have to make those changes within next 2 days???I mean I will need more time to collect info and citations.

The comment about Maharashtrian cricketers were about their dominance in the world of (Indian cricket).But I will refine the sentence.I will expand the list as u suggested.

Madhuri Dixit's pic is taken from Misplaced Pages itself!Can i use that strip if I remove her pic,or perhaps have some screenshot of it?I have another Madhuri's pic but I dont know about its copyright info etc.

I never said YOU attacked Maharashtra.I know ur not a Indian and hence neutral.I was apprehensive about a user badmouthing against me in ur talk page. mahawiki 09:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Speaking of, I noticed you deleted your user page. Your photo was is the best user photo I've seen (though I think I mentioned that before). I hope it comes back. Anyways, have a good wikibreak. -- Gogo Dodo 03:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Hello Binguyen, I appericiate your considerations. I am interested in handling administrative powers. Shyam 05:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Re Marathi people

I have removed all the POV sounding statements. I have also added references and citations, in case someone wants them. Also, Zaheer plays for Baroda team but he is originally from Maharashtra from a village in between Pune and Nashik. He speaks fluent Marathi at his home and many times with Marathi media as well. He has a restaurant in Pune as well.

Thanx for the help.

--Arya Rajya Maharashtra 07:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Marathi article

Bl, I spent about 20 mins reviewing the article and adding tags and removing POV. It is not upto some user to simply do away with the tag and continue building the article. I dont have problems if the article grows, but the editors should atleast have the basic courtesy and manners to keep the tags until they've provided proper citations. And why should I keep spending more and more time adding the same tags. Let Arya who removed the tags pay for it and do the hard work. I just want my tags back on the article. Or I will go ahead and delete entries for which I had asked for citation and Arya simply deleted those tags. And as for your entry I think you only entered Wadekar there, I'll put that in myself if you want but Arya cannot take WP audience for fools by simply doing away with legitimate tags. Sarvagnya 08:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

See the diff between my ver+Wadekar and Arya's ver here. Things like "Director extra ordinaire", "Greatest" of Satavahana kings etc., are blatantly POV or need to be referenced. Same goes for titles like "goal poacher" etc., which is certainly not 'common knowledge'. Sarvagnya 08:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok.Thanks for ur info. mahawiki 10:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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