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November 2012

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Comparison of disc image software

Hello

I am calling about your contribution to Comparison of disc image software. Having reviewed it, I found it to be of very questionable quality and accuracy. Before contributing to an article, please study your own sources and make sure you have an excellent grasp of the subject matter and are familiar with how the article lays out the information. Both these two qualities were absent from your contributions. For example, the fact that something can be done from File Explorer does not mean that File Explorer is doing it.

If you had any questions, I'd be more than glad to answer.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 21:13, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Alright, seems like for one source I copied the wrong URL. But that's no reason to remove everything, like you did in your revert. I'll dig for more sources to convince you that those two programs belong in the article --Distelfinck (talk) 03:30, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa:, regarding the "Disk Management" program, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you are assuming that there is some other program behind the scenes that is doing the actual VHD mounting work. That's probably correct, but a lot of the other programs listed on that comparison article have programs behind them that are invisible to the common user and that are doing the actual work, whereas the program presented to the user is just a UI. So what should we do? Rename the entry from "Disk Management" to "Microsoft Windows"? The background program doing the VHD mounting is part of Windows, so you shold be pleased by this?

--Distelfinck (talk) 03:41, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I am not assuming, I know that there is. VHD can be mounted not just using Logical Disk Manager or File Explorer, but also using Windows PowerShell, diskpart in Windows Command Prompt, DISM (version 6.2 and later) and even Windows Boot Loader. (That's right; Enterprise and Ultimate editions of Windows can boot from .VHD files.) There is a whole API around it and apps that use that API can mount VHD. Mounting and burning ISO images, however, are the work of two independent programs that come bundled with Windows.

And there is a lot of other wrong in your contribution: You have marked File Explorer as being able to "modify", "mount", "extract" and "restore" both VHD and ISO files, whereas according to definition given in the footnote, you only had proof for "mount" for VHD and "mount" and "restore" (burn) for ISO. Finally, you had added explanatory text to fields that were supposed to have only filename extension in them. I think you should have used the talk page to ask about how to properly add them first. Yes, I am afraid a flush-and-do-over is needed.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@Codename Lisa: Thanks, I just added a new entry for Microsoft Windows. In doing this I think I also addressed all issues you raised, except for one: In think some qualifying statements are needed regarding what the software can do with the input files exactly, and that the column for the input formats (named "Input") is the best place for them. --Distelfinck (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Nice job! I am impressed how you learned. But still there were mistakes: Windows cannot extract or modify. User can mount and then do the modification and extraction that way, but they all fall into the "mount" category. Otherwise, there would be no point in having a "mount" column at all.

Oh, and one more thing: "Windows" is too general: Windows 10 Mobile, Windows 3.1, Windows RT and Windows CE are all "Windows". But none of them can do any of these things.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, ISOs can also be mounted by Windows, but not modified. You are right that mounting then modifying falls under the "mount" category, but it falls under the "modifying" category as well --Distelfinck (talk) 23:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Modifying is about the image file itself. When mounted, the files on the image can be modified but the image itself, no. At least, that's the purpose of the comment there. We can clarify it more, but we can't just change everything in the article to match what you think about mounting or leave one entry inconsistent with others. That's against MOS:STABILITY rule. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

"the files on the image can be modified but the image itself, no" - this is false. The files are stored in the image, so changing the files changes the image. This is how VHD mounting works in Windows --Distelfinck (talk) 00:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but you can't change the sector size of the image or its file system. You can't change the metadata and timestamp either. UltraISO can do all these. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 00:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sure UltraISO cannot do all modifications imaginable either. Windows can do file changes, which is the most important modification. It is not necessary for Windows, to to be able to do more. The tooltip on the header of the "Modify" column makes that clear --Distelfinck (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

That's more a testimony to the power of imagination. You can argue on the semantics, no problem. But on the purpose level, "create", "mount" and "modify" are meant to represent three different things that users do to images, even though sometimes all three can be used to accomplish the same task.

If you want more input on this matter from editors, you can try WP:DR.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 01:47, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

"mount" and "modify" are overlapping. If convincing you should fail, I'll try the talk page, then WP:DR --Distelfinck (talk) 16:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello again

Let me show you what is the problem with this argument. You are assuming a scenario that you have files inside an VHD the want read and then, if applicable, edited. Windows does not support extracting the file and then write the changed ones back into the VHD but it can mount it and you can then treat the files as if they are on a disk. So, mounting solves your problem and you don't care much about extraction and direct modification. To you, they seem like another way that is just as good.

The problem is that article is not trying to solve your problem alone. Rather, it is trying to fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views. In essence, mounting, extraction and direct modification are three different things with three different consequences. When someone extracts a file and then changes it, the original copy is not lost until the user explicitly writes over it via mounting + copying over or direct modification. So, when you put "yes" in front of "Extracts?" in the article, you are saying this scenario is supported. Mounting usually needs either administrative privileges or a file system driver. Extraction and direct modification need neither. Extraction and editing needs additional disk space but mounting and editing may not. Even the word "extract" itself collocates with archive and image files and has a different meaning than copying off.

Please note that this was my original concern when I first reverted your edit. So, yes, you need to take this to the talk page if you still disagree.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 11:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello again, I'm currently out of time, so I'll respond to you at a later time --Distelfinck (talk) 12:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Do not promote unconfirmed evidence as the truth

As you keep trying to do with the Omar Mateen article. Once officials involved with the investigation confirm that some people were killed and/or wounded by police, then we can change it. But WP:OR exists for a reason. So please, knock it off until we get more concrete evidence. Parsley Man (talk) 01:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Now you bring this up at ANI, only to remove it moments later when I make a response? Okay... Parsley Man (talk) 02:36, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Amaury (talk) 02:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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NeilN beat me to it by 1 minute. Here's the diffs: initial edit, 1, 2, 3 EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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That block is justified --Distelfinck (talk) 03:38, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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Table

Nice job on the table, BTW. It made things organized and comprehensible, so we're not all just spinning our wheels in talk. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Nice to hear. Thank you for your help --Distelfinck (talk) 06:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Knaus: pronunciation

Hi, the correct pronunciation of Knaus is given here (pg. 142; U with inverted breve below; examples: nauk, Dachau). --Eleassar 22:07, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks --Distelfinck (talk) 22:12, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to write this using the IPA though. Perhaps User:Doremo can help. --Eleassar 22:13, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Pinging Doremo --Distelfinck (talk) 22:49, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I've corrected the vowel length marking; otherwise it is correct. Doremo (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

February 2017

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Yeah, that change was not intentional on my side (copy-paste-error, late at night), but I think you might have actually picked the wrong canned message here, as it seems the change wasn't from one national variety to another, or am I wrong, AusLondonder? --Distelfinck (talk) 01:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

That's ok. The page is already designated as using British English so I was simply restoring that variety to the page. AusLondonder (talk) 06:05, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Ah okay, looked into it again, turns out that's what you did. Although Misplaced Pages says (not saying it is correct, just quoting) "The -ize spelling is often incorrectly seen as an Americanism in Britain." --Distelfinck (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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