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*'''Keep''' - I'm afraid the comments made by ] are non factual. Firstly, there was no failure to include ] in the category of ]. On the contrary, there were 20 differnet ] and other proofs enough to put him into the category. For example here : . What happened is that extreme ] pushing by some users resulted in the locking of the article and there was an organized attempt to whitewash MA and not to call him an anti-semite. Atleast one of these persons is the white supermacist ]. The majority of editors agreed that he's an anti-semite too. This category is my attempt to reach a compromise - ] is explained very well in the article, and I've explained that the category referrs to this article. The intro can also be expanded. MA fits this description perfectly since he's attacking Israel using anti-semitic tactics like ] - these are explained thouroughly in the new anti semitism article. The idea that this can be confusing is also illogical. Btw, I'm willing to have the '''category renamed to "New Anti semitism"''' if it's still thought of being confusing. ] 01:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC) *'''Keep''' - I'm afraid the comments made by ] are non factual. Firstly, there was no failure to include ] in the category of ]. On the contrary, there were 20 differnet ] and other proofs enough to put him into the category. For example here : . What happened is that extreme ] pushing by some users resulted in the locking of the article and there was an organized attempt to whitewash MA and not to call him an anti-semite. Atleast one of these persons is the white supermacist ]. The majority of editors agreed that he's an anti-semite too. This category is my attempt to reach a compromise - ] is explained very well in the article, and I've explained that the category referrs to this article. The intro can also be expanded. MA fits this description perfectly since he's attacking Israel using anti-semitic tactics like ] - these are explained thouroughly in the new anti semitism article. The idea that this can be confusing is also illogical. Btw, I'm willing to have the '''category renamed to "New Anti semitism"''' if it's still thought of being confusing. ] 01:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. This is NOT the way to achieve the reasonable goal of labelling MA an anti-semite. Further, a single label is sufficient for 'old' OR 'new' Anti-semitic people, and the person in question's article can elaborate. Although it is claimed this is a compromise, I feel it is far more a new 'tactic' for prolonging the debate. All focus should be on the long and frankly, worthless debate on the MA page, and at the mediation cabal for this problem. This will be no more successful than all the WP:RS and WP:V sources, and other avenues of resolution should be explored. Finally, I guarantee that all the 'WPWW' editors, all the apologists, and all the 'cultural sensistivity editors will oppose this category, jsut like they oppose all the other versions. ] 01:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

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Category:New Anti-Semitic people

Avi, just to clarify, from the discussion it is apparent that you believe that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be inserted into Category:Anti-Semitic people. I'm proposing this as a compromise because a few users object to this obviously fitting category. Amoruso 01:30, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - I'm afraid the comments made by FrancisTyers are non factual. Firstly, there was no failure to include Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the category of Category:Anti-Semitic people. On the contrary, there were 20 differnet WP:RS and other proofs enough to put him into the category. For example here : . What happened is that extreme WP:POV pushing by some users resulted in the locking of the article and there was an organized attempt to whitewash MA and not to call him an anti-semite. Atleast one of these persons is the white supermacist User:Kitler. The majority of editors agreed that he's an anti-semite too. This category is my attempt to reach a compromise - New Anti-semitism is explained very well in the article, and I've explained that the category referrs to this article. The intro can also be expanded. MA fits this description perfectly since he's attacking Israel using anti-semitic tactics like Holocaust denial - these are explained thouroughly in the new anti semitism article. The idea that this can be confusing is also illogical. Btw, I'm willing to have the category renamed to "New Anti semitism" if it's still thought of being confusing. Amoruso 01:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is NOT the way to achieve the reasonable goal of labelling MA an anti-semite. Further, a single label is sufficient for 'old' OR 'new' Anti-semitic people, and the person in question's article can elaborate. Although it is claimed this is a compromise, I feel it is far more a new 'tactic' for prolonging the debate. All focus should be on the long and frankly, worthless debate on the MA page, and at the mediation cabal for this problem. This will be no more successful than all the WP:RS and WP:V sources, and other avenues of resolution should be explored. Finally, I guarantee that all the 'WPWW' editors, all the apologists, and all the 'cultural sensistivity editors will oppose this category, jsut like they oppose all the other versions. ThuranX 01:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)