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International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty

International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty was nominated for deletion on 2006-08-07. The result of the discussion was "keep". For the prior discussion, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty.

Non notable. 98 google hits., mostly from blogs. It is mentioned in one issue of Economist, but all they say it's a non-notable organization, for which one can find no details: (the Economist article)

Googling those details shows no trace on the internet for the “Robinson Corbett-Smith” who registered the site on January 14th this year. The address given is a hotel. The phone number is incomplete.

A Lexis-Nexis search for the ICDISS, in all languages and media going back 20 years, produces not a single entry. None of the people supposedly working for it—Joseph Connolly, Megan Stephenson or William Wood—appear in any plausible foreign-policy context in internet searches bogdan 22:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

They also claim on their website:

Our annual spring conference is held every year since 2002 at the graduate school of the law faculty of the UNAM, in Mexico City, Distrito Federal (México). Our annual fall conference is held every year since 2004 in Washington, District of Columbia (USA).

1999-2006 © International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty

Yet, their domain was registered in January 2006 and there's no proof on the internet or otherwise that it existed previously. bogdan 22:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, unless somebody proves me wrong. This seems to be just a website, nothing of substance behind it, and no established notability for sure. However, if there is a story behind it, it might be worthy an article. --dcabrilo 22:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Petition accepted non-notable, possibly non-existant NGO. It would be quite easy to prove its solidity. But I'm not seeing that. They seem to have no contact information on their website. If they could give sources for the 2003 instance of "Occasionally, these charges have then been repeated on TV (twice, 2003)" , I might be inclined to change my position. - FrancisTyers · 22:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Hah, good find. Let me quote a question found in their FAQ:

  FAQ: What is your response to claims that ICDISS does not exist?

  People frequently claim that this organization does not exist and I think they might be right. :-) bogdan 22:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep The point that the organization is likely a front was the main point of the Economist articles and was discussed in the first AFD. This second nomination discussion brings nothing new to the table. Notable astroturf/disinformation group Bwithh 01:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Bwithh. The bogus nature of the organisation seems to me to have been established beyond reasonable doubt, but it's notable for that reason. Maybe the article title should include a reference to its hoax status. JQ 02:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Delete. Seems to be a hoax or a front, which probably isn't notable on its own. Could this article possibly be merged with some other entry? SkipSmith 06:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete if only because half of it's citations point to earlier versions of itself. (??) --141.156.232.179 22:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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