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	== Chelsea Manning categories ==
	(In future, please consider a little BRD.) When there's a sub-category that helps diffuse a category we don't usually keep it in both categories, per ]. I agree there are some situations you want to keep everybody in all related categories, but not here.<p>In this case, the category for people who were convicted is helping organize the category for people who were charged. If all the convicted are in their own sub-cat, it's still clear that everybody was "charged" (all people in the main cat and all people in the sub-cat). If we keep all the convicted in both cat and sub-cat, there is no easy way to see who many articles involve people who were charged and not convicted. Your way is actually ''less'' informative.] 05:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:] is a non-diffusing subcategory of ]. Just as, in the example given at ], not all ] are ], so too not all Persons charged are convicted. It is uniquely helpful to have a standalone list of '''all''' persons charged, whether or not convicted. If you want an "easy way" to see articles involving the subset of people charged but not convicted, you ought to create a new ''Category:Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917''. As is, you're trying to artificially restrict a more comprehensive parent category for your decidedly subcategorical purpose. ] (]) 06:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::No, "convicted" is not non-diffusing. It is more like {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} and {{cl\|People convicted of war crimes}}. <p>Instead of two clearly understood categories of about thirty each, where the sub-cat is logically a part of the larger cat, we now have one with thirty that's useful and one that duplicates so we have seventy and gives slightly less information than if we had it separated like the war crimes example.] 06:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC).
	::And you say {{tq\|so too not all Persons charged are convicted.}} That's the wrong end of the stick. All persons who were convicted were logically also charged! That's why "convicted" is a sub-category of all those "charged". You're saying that your way involves creating a brand new category to find the information that could be had just by properly diffusing the main cat per ]. You're overcategorizing all of those articles.] 06:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::No, I'm saying that {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} corresponds to {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}}, and {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} corresponds to {{cl\|People convicted of war crimes}}. In your first comment, you said you want an "easy way" to see the subset of those charged but not convicted. Where is the subset of those charged with War Crimes but not convicted? ] (]) 06:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::{{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does not contain duplicates from the sub-cats of all articles of people convicted of war crimes. There are 42 people and two sub-cats under indicted. We have over a hundred articles in "convicted". That means "convicted" is diffusing. That means that the 42 articles that didn't make it into a "convicted" sub-cat, and are sitting in "indicted" are mostly the people who were indicted but not convicted for some reason.] 06:46, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::Please bear with me. I'm trying to understand. Let me ask this another way. If {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does '''not''' in fact list all Misplaced Pages articles for People indicted for war crimes, but lists only those indicted and not convicted, where can a reader find a list of all Misplaced Pages articles for People indicted for war crimes? ] (]) 07:01, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::No problem. {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does contain all articles for people convicted of war crimes, because it has contains both the sub-categories and everybody who doesn't fit the sub-categories. Right now if I go the folder "charged under 1917" and I see a little folder called "convicted under 1917" I don't know initially see that most of the names I'm looking at in "charged" are also repeated in "convicted", A super-list of everybody with any connection can be seen as useful, but it's slightly more useful to have people more definitely and specifically sorted. Let me give you a more specific example: Take a look at {{cl\|People indicted for crimes against humanity}}, there's ]. It wouldn't necessarily be more informative to see him on a giant list with everyone that was also convicted. In fact, if there was a super-list, I might not immediately note that he wasn't convicted.] 13:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::Thanks. I think I'm finally beginning to see your point. As the parent category, {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} should not actually be populated by any names. It should simply be an umbrella under which subcategories shelter. {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is obviously one such subcategory. Another would be {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}. If you concur, I will use the ] to request creation of a subcategory with the latter name. Once it's approved, I'll go through {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} and, where appropriate, re-tag each who belongs in the new subcategory. At the same time, I can remove '''all''' tags pointing to {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}}, since that will be a shell category containing only the two subcategories and linking to no individual articles. Please advise. ] (]) 21:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::''Follow-up'' I have identified the 23 articles listed in {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} that would populate the proposed new subcategory {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}.
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	::::::::''Note:'' In compiling the above list, I could not figure out where to insert category tags for ] and ]—who are included in {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}}—to add them to {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}. All told, there should be 73 charged, 50 convicted (including Weissman/Franklin), and 23 not convicted. Any help re Weissman/Franklin would be much appreciated. ] (]) 01:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::::I appreciate that you're looking at this with good faith and looking closely at the article involved. I think you'll find a category like {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} would get deleted pretty quickly as other editors would argue that most people in history have been "not convicted". A category like {{cl\|Persons '''charged but not convicted''' under the Espionage Act of 1917}} would be more precise. <p>Personally I think the easier option would be to just keep "charged but not convicted" in the "charged" cat, and put a descriptive sentence at the top of {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} that says if they were convicted they should be moved into the more-specific "convicted" sub-cat". I won't stand in the way of either solution, though, as both help show who was "charged but not convicted". I found this useful in the War Crimes example, because it helps show that most of the "indicted but not convicted" occurred because the accused was so old they died were considered too sick for some reason. I think that helps show interesting connections between articles, and aspects of this kind of accusation. Thanks for thinking about how to make this navigate better.] 13:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::::I appreciate that you have far more experience than I, and a much deeper understanding, regarding Misplaced Pages categories. So I value your advice. Of course, you're right that {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is overly broad and liable to be misconstrued as applying to ''everyone'' not charged under the Act. Your alternative suggestion {{cl\|Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is much better. I'd like to think about your reply a bit more, but am leaning towards submitting your alternative subcategory for approval. If editors reject that approach, I can live with whatever the community decides. Again, I'm grateful for your patience and guidance on this matter. I'll continue updating this Talk section as new developments warrant. ] (]) 14:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
	{{od}}] '''Not Done''' Regrettably, my request to create {{cl\|Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} was today declined by ], "To categorise people who have not been convicted of a crime seems at variance with ]." ] (]) 21:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

	== In July and August 2014, disruptive edits by an anonymous user of Congressional IP address 143.231.249.138 garnered widespread unfavorable press coverage. ==

	*{{cite news \|last=Phillip \|first=Abby \|date=July 10, 2014 \|title=Your tax dollars are hard at work … editing the 'Horse head mask' page on Misplaced Pages \|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/07/10/your-tax-dollars-are-hard-at-work-editing-the-horse-head-mask-page-on-wikipedia/ \|newspaper=The Washington Post \|accessdate=July 24, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Watson \|first=Paul Joseph \|date=July 15, 2014 \|title=U.S. Govt. Editing Misplaced Pages to Smear Independent Media Personalities? \|url=http://www.infowars.com/u-s-govt-editing-wikipedia-to-smear-independent-media-personalities/ \|newspaper=InfoWars \|accessdate=July 24, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|date=July 17, 2014 \|title=Анонимы из конгресса США развлекаются, редактируя статьи о России в "Википедии" \|url=http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/northamerica/usacanada/17-07-2014/1216623-wikipedia-0/ \|newspaper=Pravda \|accessdate=August 5, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Carr \|first=Paul \|date=July 22, 2014 \|title=Someone inside US Congress is anonymously adding conspiracy theories about Russia, Cuba to Misplaced Pages \|url=http://pando.com/2014/07/22/someone-inside-us-congress-is-anonymously-adding-conspiracy-theories-about-russia-cuba-to-wikipedia/ \|publisher=PandoDaily \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Newitz \|first=Annalee \|date=July 23, 2014 \|title=Congress Basically Admits They Are Reptilians \|url=http://io9.com/congress-basically-admits-they-are-reptilians-1609737829 \|publisher=io9 \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Nguyen \|first=Tina \|date=July 23, 2014 \|title=Mystery Congressional Staffer Edits Misplaced Pages to Push Conspiracy Theories? \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/mystery-congressional-staffer-edits-wikipedia-to-push-conspiracy-theories/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=July 24, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Phillip \|first=Abby \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages blocks anonymous edits (and trolling) from a congressional IP address \|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/07/24/wikipedia-blocks-anonymous-edits-and-trolling-from-a-congressional-ip-address/ \|newspaper=The Washington Post \|accessdate=July 24, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mosendz \|first=Polly \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Congressional IP Address Blocked from Making Edits to Misplaced Pages \|url=http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/07/congressional-ip-address-blocked-from-making-edits-to-wikipedia/374997/ \|newspaper=The Wire \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mullin \|first=Joe \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Who's banned from editing Misplaced Pages this week? Congress \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/whos-banned-from-editing-wikipedia-this-week/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=House staffers blocked from editing Misplaced Pages \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/213268-house-staffers-blocked-from-editing-wikipedia \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Feldman \|first=Josh \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Blocks IP Address Connected to U.S. House After 'Disruptive' Edits \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/wikipedia-blocks-ip-address-connected-to-u-s-house-after-disruptive-edits/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Geller \|first=Eric \|date=July 25, 2014 \|title=Someone in Congress is obsessed with conspiracy theories \|url=http://www.dailydot.com/politics/congressedits-wikipedia-conspiracy-theories-house/ \|publisher=The Daily Dot \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|date=July 25, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages заблокировала анонимные правки своих статей с IP-адресов Конгресса США \|url=http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1340382 \|publisher=ITAR-TASS \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Miller \|first=Joe \|title=Misplaced Pages blocks 'disruptive' page edits from US Congress \|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28481876 \|work=BBC News Technology \|date=July 25, 2014 \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Wofford \|first=Taylor \|title=Misplaced Pages Blocks U.S. House for ‘Disruptive Editing’ \|url=http://www.newsweek.com/wikipedia-blocks-us-house-disruptive-editing-261295 \|work=Newsweek\|date=July 25, 2014 \|accessdate=July 26, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Rothrock \|first=Kevin \|date=August 1, 2014 \|title=Did Someone from the U.S. Congress Just Call Putin a “Dickwad” on Misplaced Pages? \|url=http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/01/russia-usg-congress-wikipedia-putin-khuilo/ \|publisher=Global Voices Online \|accessdate=August 7, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Kravets \|first=David \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=@Congressedits nabs Misplaced Pages change calling Snowden “American traitor” \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/congressedits-nabs-wikipedia-change-calling-snowden-american-traitor/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=August 5, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Evans \|first=Zenon \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=What Congress Edited on Misplaced Pages Today: Snowden, Manning, Cato, More \|url=http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/05/what-congress-edited-on-wikipedia-today \|newspaper=Reason \|accessdate=August 5, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=House staffer edited Misplaced Pages page to label Snowden a 'traitor' \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/214365-house-staffer-edits-wikipedia-to-call-snowden-traitor \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 6, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Nguyen \|first=Tina \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Vandal Gets Congress Banned for A Month; Claims U.S. Rep. Authorized 'Transphobic' Edits \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/wikipedia-vandal-gets-congress-banned-for-a-month-claims-u-s-rep-authorized-transphobic-edits/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Davis \|first=Cindy \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Congress Has Been Banned from Editing Misplaced Pages Because Some Douchebag Is Making Transphobic Changes to Entries, Including OItNB's Laverne Cox \|url=http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/congress-has-been-banned-from-editing-wikipedia-because-some-douchebag-is-making-transphobic-changes-to-entries-including-oitnbs-laverne-cox-.php \|newspaper=Pajiba \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Matthews \|first=Dylan \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Someone on Capitol Hill made transphobic edits to Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page \|url=http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/20/6050965/someone-on-capitol-hill-is-making-ridiculously-transphobic-wikipedia \|newspaper=Vox \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Rojas \|first=Warren \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Fed-Up Hill Types Get LaRouche Revenge on Misplaced Pages \|url=http://hoh.rollcall.com/lyndon-larouche-wikipedia-edited/ \|newspaper=Roll Call \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Campbell \|first=Colin \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Someone On Capitol Hill Seems Obsessed With Editing Misplaced Pages Articles On Transgender Topics \|url=http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-on-capitol-hill-is-editing-wikipedia-articles-on-transgender-topics-2014-8 \|newspaper=Business Insider \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Ongley \|first=Hannah \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=A Member of Congress Trolled Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages Page With Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.styleite.com/news/someone-in-congress-has-been-editing-laverne-coxs-wikipedia-page-with-transphobic-comments/ \|newspaper=Styleite \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Tharrett \|first=Matthew \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congress Members Blocked From Misplaced Pages After Lawmakers Make Several Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.queerty.com/congress-members-blocked-from-wikipedia-after-lawmakers-make-several-transphobic-edits-20140821 \|newspaper=Queerty \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title='Orange is the New Black' fight sparks new House Misplaced Pages ban \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/215653-house-staffers-blocked-from-editing-wikipedia-again \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Schwab \|first=Nikki \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=House Staffers Could Lose Misplaced Pages Editing Privileges \|url=http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/08/21/house-staffers-could-lose-wikipedia-editing-privileges \|newspaper=U.S. News & World Report \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mullin \|first=Joe \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congressional staffers banned ''again'' from Misplaced Pages after "transphobic" edits \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/congressional-staffers-banned-again-from-wikipedia-after-transphobic-edits/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Johnson \|first=Victoria \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages bans House of Representative's account after user mocks 'Orange is the New Black' actress \|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/house-banned-wikipedia-anonymous-user-targets-oitnb-actress-article-1.1911925 \|newspaper=] \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Blacklow \|first=Jeremy \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Did Someone in Congress Hack 'Orange Is the New Black' Star's Misplaced Pages Page? \|url=https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/did-someone-in-congress-hack--orange-is-the-new-black--star-s-wikipedia-page-183832777.html \|newspaper=] TV \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Geller \|first=Eric \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congress banned from editing Misplaced Pages for transphobic revisions \|url=http://www.dailydot.com/politics/congress-wikipedia-edit-block-transphobic/ \|newspaper=The Daily Dot \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Heffernan \|first=Dani \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anonymous transphobic Misplaced Pages edits linked to an IP address in US Congress \|url=http://www.glaad.org/blog/anonymous-transphobic-wikipedia-edits-linked-ip-address-us-congress \|newspaper=] \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Sola \|first=Katie \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages: Transphobic Edits Came from Congressional Source \|url=http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/congressional-ip-address-linked-to-transphobic-wikipedia-edits/ \|newspaper=Mashable \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Velazco \|first=Chris \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=US House of Representatives faces Misplaced Pages ban thanks to trollish edits \|url=http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/22/us-house-of-representatives-wikipedia-ban/ \|newspaper=Engadget \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Merevick \|first=Tony \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-Transgender Misplaced Pages Edits Appear To Originate On Capitol Hill \|url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/tonymerevick/anti-transgender-wikipedia-edits-apparently-originate-from-c \|newspaper=BuzzFeed \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Ferguson \|first=David \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-trans trolling spree forces Misplaced Pages to ban U.S. House staffers for third time \|url=http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/anti-trans-trolling-spree-forces-wikipedia-to-ban-u-s-house-staffers-for-third-time/ \|newspaper=The Raw Story \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hernandez \|first=Barbara E. \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=U.S. House Computers Blocked from Misplaced Pages for 'Transphobia' \|url=http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/press-here/US-House-Computers-Banned-from-Misplaced Pages-for-Transphobia-272255831.html \|newspaper=NBC Bay Area \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Bluestone \|first=Gabrielle \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congressional Staffer's Edits Got Hill Computers Banned From Misplaced Pages \|url=http://gawker.com/which-congressional-staffer-got-hill-ip-addresses-banne-1625369760 \|newspaper=Gawker \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=DeMaria \|first=Meghan \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page was changed by someone on Capitol Hill \|url=https://theweek.com/speedreads/index/266844/speedreads-laverne-coxs-wikipedia-page-was-changed-by-someone-on-capitol-hill \|newspaper=The Week \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Schwitzerlett \|first=Joshua \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-Trans Edits Earn House New Misplaced Pages Ban \|url=http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/08/anti-trans-edits-earn-house-new-wikipedia-ban/ \|newspaper=Ring of Fire \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Bacle \|first=Ariana \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Someone on Capitol Hill made rude edits to Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page \|url=http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/08/21/laverne-cox-congress-wikipedia/ \|newspaper=Entertainment Weekly \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Berman \|first=Russell \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Gives Congress a Timeout After Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/08/wikipedia-gives-congress-a-timeout-after-transphobic-edits/378991/ \|newspaper=The Wire \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mimms \|first=Sarah \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=House Staffers Banned from Misplaced Pages Over Anti-Transgender Edits \|url=http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-staffers-banned-from-wikipedia-over-anti-transgender-edits-20140822 \|newspaper=National Journal \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=VandenDolder \|first=Tess \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Someone in Congress is Making Transphobic Edits to Misplaced Pages Articles \|url=http://inthecapital.streetwise.co/2014/08/22/someone-in-congress-is-making-transphobic-edits-to-wikipedia-articles/ \|newspaper=InTheCapital \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Trujillo \|first=Mario \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Gay rights group calls for House investigation of Misplaced Pages edits \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/215739-human-rights-campaign-calls-for-house-investigation-of-wikipedia-edits \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Sieczkowski \|first=Cavan \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Transphobic Edits Made To Misplaced Pages Appear To Have Come From Capitol Hill \|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/laverne-cox-wikipedia-capitol-hill_n_5699160.html \|newspaper=The Huffington Post \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Lanton \|first=Aaron \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=The House of Representatives has been banned from using Misplaced Pages again \|url=http://www.techtimes.com/articles/13731/20140822/the-house-of-representatives-has-been-banned-from-using-wikipedia-again.htm \|newspaper=Tech Times \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mejia \|first=Paula \|date=August 23, 2014 \|title=Anonymous House of Representatives User Banned for Transphobic Misplaced Pages Edits \|url=http://www.newsweek.com/anonymous-house-representatives-user-banned-transphobic-wikipedia-edits-266434 \|newspaper=Newsweek \|accessdate=August 23, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 23, 2014 \|title=Congress turns Misplaced Pages into forum for pranks, battle \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/215796-congress-turns-wikipedia-into-forum-for-pranks-battle \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 23, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Van Wagtendonk \|first=Anya \|date=August 25, 2014 \|title=Citing 'disruptive' edits, Misplaced Pages bars anonymous entries from Congress-linked computers \|url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/citing-disruptive-edits-wikipedia-bars-anonymous-entries-congress-linked-computers/ \|newspaper=PBS NewsHour \|accessdate=August 28, 2014}}
	The preceding list documents the extent to which an anonymous serial abuser of the Congressional IP address 143.231.249.138 has exploited this platform to publicly humiliate both the ] and ] over the span of just two months. ] (]) 00:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

	===Abuse resumed in September 2014===
	*{{cite news \|last=Willis \|first=Derek \|date=September 26, 2014 \|title=First Draft Sept. 26 \|url=http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/09/26/ \|newspaper=The New York Times \|accessdate=September 26, 2014}}
	] (]) 14:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

	== On troll food ==
	Some bored dudebro staffer in the Rayburn Building is absolutely relishing the attention he's getting right now, and building a shrine to his accomplishments ]. (Keep in mind the House is on recess right now, so his claims of being "authorized" by a Congressman are pretty clearly bunk; I doubt there's much of a scandal beyond a single bad apple.) The MediaWiki platform already provides excellent transparency, ] being easily accessible and its user talk page clearly identifying it as a House IP; if there were a coverup, surely we'd have revdeleted everything! The best strategy from this point forward is to just leave things alone, and nonchalantly block again if the problems come back again in thirty days. --] (]) 03:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	:By peremptorily deleting my comments posted to ]—as you —you are abusing your authority as a Misplaced Pages admin. ] (]) 03:18, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::] is still at it: This is clearly an attempt to suppress free and open discussion of how to deal with an abusive user. ] (]) 15:39, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::: ] (]) 17:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::Do you seriously not see the irony in this thread, where you've just complained about "attempt to suppress free and open discussion", that you're removing my own attempts to discuss it? ] (]) 17:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::I apologize for deleting the two preceding good-faith comments by '''IP 88.104.<span style="color:#FE0101">23.102</span>''', whom I mistook for vandal '''IP 88.104.<span style="color:#FE0101">20.79</span>'''. ] ] (]) 19:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::No, it's an attempt to deal with a delicate situation with careful nuance. The press is already turning this into a "Misplaced Pages vs. Congress, zOMG!!!1" story, instead of the "bored troll vandalizes from his workplace, gets workplace blocked" story that it is; there's no need to fan the flames further. (Organizations like NCTE and HRC, to their credit, are already Congress to deal with this abusive use of taxpayer resources—that's their job, though, not ours.) --] (]) 00:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

	==Heads up==
	You are quoted and your user page is linked in a short today. best, —Tim /// ] (]) 13:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
	: Congrats! -- ] (]) 01:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	== Grammar question: a or an? ==

	I'm wondering about of . Maybe there's some rule I'm missing here. I'm American, but have lived in Europe for most of my adult life, so I do make some mistakes! Although I'm a 64 year old health care professional, to keep up I take American college courses by web (some medical subjects for the fourth time in various languages), and still get top grades. I get comments like this: "I’d say you are in the top 5-10 students I have taught in 13 years here." (Psychology professor)

	I want to get this right for future use. Here's the current situation:

	* "an NYPD spokeswoman" (your version)

	The subject is "spokeswoman", which begins with a consonant. (Even if it's NYPD "New York PD", it would be a consonant.) Wouldn't that normally be preceded with "a" ("a NYPD spokeswoman")? That sounds better to me, but I could be wrong. -- ] (]) 02:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	:*], since you're a health care professional, here's a source you may respect: which is the official companion to the ''Publication Manual of the ]''. "The trick here," we are advised, "is to use your ears (how the acronym is pronounced), not your eyes (how it's spelled)." In the instant case, NYPD is ], meaning an acronym pronounced as a string of letters rather than as a word. Note in the APA's fourth bulleted example the distinction between '''a''' NICU nurse and '''an''' NPO order. Like NPO, NYPD requires '''an'''. I realize this seems counterintuitive, but bear in mind that the letter ''N''—while a consonant—is considered to have a vowel ''sound'' because we pronounce it as if it were spelled EN. ] (]) 03:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
	::* Great answer! Thanks. So with NYPD, we should think of "eN", and treat it as a soft, vowel, sound. I was initially thinking of NYPD as an adjective, with the "a" being attached to the subject "spokeswoman", but I suspect that this would also be a case of "use your ears, not your eyes". -- ] (]) 03:30, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::* While I've got you here, I was thinking of the HuffPost ref as better coverage than some of the other refs (great visuals), but there isn't really that much difference, so no big deal. Because of the visuals, it might be better than one of the others. -- ] (]) 03:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	== A kitten for you! ==

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	Thanks for your Grant Shapps edit.

	] (]) 19:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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	== Blocked ==

	Checkuser makes it very clear you are using the ] in a bad hand/good hand manner, even over the same article. The things that account did were utterly unacceptable, and I fully believe you knew that, and chose to direct them through a different account knowing that. Given that the other account's block is directly to ArbCom only, so is this account's. If you wish to contest this block, arbcom-appeals-en@lists.wikimedia.org is the way. Given the unacceptable nature of the other account's edits, I have also removed your talk page access on both accounts. ] (]) 21:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

	== A barnstar for you! ==

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	== Chelsea Manning categories ==
	(In future, please consider a little BRD.) When there's a sub-category that helps diffuse a category we don't usually keep it in both categories, per ]. I agree there are some situations you want to keep everybody in all related categories, but not here.<p>In this case, the category for people who were convicted is helping organize the category for people who were charged. If all the convicted are in their own sub-cat, it's still clear that everybody was "charged" (all people in the main cat and all people in the sub-cat). If we keep all the convicted in both cat and sub-cat, there is no easy way to see who many articles involve people who were charged and not convicted. Your way is actually ''less'' informative.] 05:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:] is a non-diffusing subcategory of ]. Just as, in the example given at ], not all ] are ], so too not all Persons charged are convicted. It is uniquely helpful to have a standalone list of '''all''' persons charged, whether or not convicted. If you want an "easy way" to see articles involving the subset of people charged but not convicted, you ought to create a new ''Category:Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917''. As is, you're trying to artificially restrict a more comprehensive parent category for your decidedly subcategorical purpose. ] (]) 06:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::No, "convicted" is not non-diffusing. It is more like {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} and {{cl\|People convicted of war crimes}}. <p>Instead of two clearly understood categories of about thirty each, where the sub-cat is logically a part of the larger cat, we now have one with thirty that's useful and one that duplicates so we have seventy and gives slightly less information than if we had it separated like the war crimes example.] 06:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC).
	::And you say {{tq\|so too not all Persons charged are convicted.}} That's the wrong end of the stick. All persons who were convicted were logically also charged! That's why "convicted" is a sub-category of all those "charged". You're saying that your way involves creating a brand new category to find the information that could be had just by properly diffusing the main cat per ]. You're overcategorizing all of those articles.] 06:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::No, I'm saying that {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} corresponds to {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}}, and {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} corresponds to {{cl\|People convicted of war crimes}}. In your first comment, you said you want an "easy way" to see the subset of those charged but not convicted. Where is the subset of those charged with War Crimes but not convicted? ] (]) 06:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::{{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does not contain duplicates from the sub-cats of all articles of people convicted of war crimes. There are 42 people and two sub-cats under indicted. We have over a hundred articles in "convicted". That means "convicted" is diffusing. That means that the 42 articles that didn't make it into a "convicted" sub-cat, and are sitting in "indicted" are mostly the people who were indicted but not convicted for some reason.] 06:46, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::Please bear with me. I'm trying to understand. Let me ask this another way. If {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does '''not''' in fact list all Misplaced Pages articles for People indicted for war crimes, but lists only those indicted and not convicted, where can a reader find a list of all Misplaced Pages articles for People indicted for war crimes? ] (]) 07:01, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::No problem. {{cl\|People indicted for war crimes}} does contain all articles for people convicted of war crimes, because it has contains both the sub-categories and everybody who doesn't fit the sub-categories. Right now if I go the folder "charged under 1917" and I see a little folder called "convicted under 1917" I don't know initially see that most of the names I'm looking at in "charged" are also repeated in "convicted", A super-list of everybody with any connection can be seen as useful, but it's slightly more useful to have people more definitely and specifically sorted. Let me give you a more specific example: Take a look at {{cl\|People indicted for crimes against humanity}}, there's ]. It wouldn't necessarily be more informative to see him on a giant list with everyone that was also convicted. In fact, if there was a super-list, I might not immediately note that he wasn't convicted.] 13:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::Thanks. I think I'm finally beginning to see your point. As the parent category, {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} should not actually be populated by any names. It should simply be an umbrella under which subcategories shelter. {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is obviously one such subcategory. Another would be {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}. If you concur, I will use the ] to request creation of a subcategory with the latter name. Once it's approved, I'll go through {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} and, where appropriate, re-tag each who belongs in the new subcategory. At the same time, I can remove '''all''' tags pointing to {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}}, since that will be a shell category containing only the two subcategories and linking to no individual articles. Please advise. ] (]) 21:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::''Follow-up'' I have identified the 23 articles listed in {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} that would populate the proposed new subcategory {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}.
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	::::::::''Note:'' In compiling the above list, I could not figure out where to insert category tags for ] and ]—who are included in {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}}—to add them to {{cl\|Persons convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}}. All told, there should be 73 charged, 50 convicted (including Weissman/Franklin), and 23 not convicted. Any help re Weissman/Franklin would be much appreciated. ] (]) 01:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::::::::I appreciate that you're looking at this with good faith and looking closely at the article involved. I think you'll find a category like {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} would get deleted pretty quickly as other editors would argue that most people in history have been "not convicted". A category like {{cl\|Persons '''charged but not convicted''' under the Espionage Act of 1917}} would be more precise. <p>Personally I think the easier option would be to just keep "charged but not convicted" in the "charged" cat, and put a descriptive sentence at the top of {{cl\|Persons charged under the Espionage Act of 1917}} that says if they were convicted they should be moved into the more-specific "convicted" sub-cat". I won't stand in the way of either solution, though, as both help show who was "charged but not convicted". I found this useful in the War Crimes example, because it helps show that most of the "indicted but not convicted" occurred because the accused was so old they died were considered too sick for some reason. I think that helps show interesting connections between articles, and aspects of this kind of accusation. Thanks for thinking about how to make this navigate better.] 13:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::::::::I appreciate that you have far more experience than I, and a much deeper understanding, regarding Misplaced Pages categories. So I value your advice. Of course, you're right that {{cl\|Persons not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is overly broad and liable to be misconstrued as applying to ''everyone'' not charged under the Act. Your alternative suggestion {{cl\|Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} is much better. I'd like to think about your reply a bit more, but am leaning towards submitting your alternative subcategory for approval. If editors reject that approach, I can live with whatever the community decides. Again, I'm grateful for your patience and guidance on this matter. I'll continue updating this Talk section as new developments warrant. ] (]) 14:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
	{{od}}] '''Not Done''' Regrettably, my request to create {{cl\|Persons charged but not convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917}} was today declined by ], "To categorise people who have not been convicted of a crime seems at variance with ]." ] (]) 21:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

	== In July and August 2014, disruptive edits by an anonymous user of Congressional IP address 143.231.249.138 garnered widespread unfavorable press coverage. ==

	*{{cite news \|last=Phillip \|first=Abby \|date=July 10, 2014 \|title=Your tax dollars are hard at work … editing the 'Horse head mask' page on Misplaced Pages \|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/07/10/your-tax-dollars-are-hard-at-work-editing-the-horse-head-mask-page-on-wikipedia/ \|newspaper=The Washington Post \|accessdate=July 24, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Watson \|first=Paul Joseph \|date=July 15, 2014 \|title=U.S. Govt. Editing Misplaced Pages to Smear Independent Media Personalities? \|url=http://www.infowars.com/u-s-govt-editing-wikipedia-to-smear-independent-media-personalities/ \|newspaper=InfoWars \|accessdate=July 24, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|date=July 17, 2014 \|title=Анонимы из конгресса США развлекаются, редактируя статьи о России в "Википедии" \|url=http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/northamerica/usacanada/17-07-2014/1216623-wikipedia-0/ \|newspaper=Pravda \|accessdate=August 5, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Carr \|first=Paul \|date=July 22, 2014 \|title=Someone inside US Congress is anonymously adding conspiracy theories about Russia, Cuba to Misplaced Pages \|url=http://pando.com/2014/07/22/someone-inside-us-congress-is-anonymously-adding-conspiracy-theories-about-russia-cuba-to-wikipedia/ \|publisher=PandoDaily \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Newitz \|first=Annalee \|date=July 23, 2014 \|title=Congress Basically Admits They Are Reptilians \|url=http://io9.com/congress-basically-admits-they-are-reptilians-1609737829 \|publisher=io9 \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Nguyen \|first=Tina \|date=July 23, 2014 \|title=Mystery Congressional Staffer Edits Misplaced Pages to Push Conspiracy Theories? \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/mystery-congressional-staffer-edits-wikipedia-to-push-conspiracy-theories/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=July 24, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Phillip \|first=Abby \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages blocks anonymous edits (and trolling) from a congressional IP address \|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/07/24/wikipedia-blocks-anonymous-edits-and-trolling-from-a-congressional-ip-address/ \|newspaper=The Washington Post \|accessdate=July 24, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mosendz \|first=Polly \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Congressional IP Address Blocked from Making Edits to Misplaced Pages \|url=http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/07/congressional-ip-address-blocked-from-making-edits-to-wikipedia/374997/ \|newspaper=The Wire \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mullin \|first=Joe \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Who's banned from editing Misplaced Pages this week? Congress \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/whos-banned-from-editing-wikipedia-this-week/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=House staffers blocked from editing Misplaced Pages \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/213268-house-staffers-blocked-from-editing-wikipedia \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Feldman \|first=Josh \|date=July 24, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Blocks IP Address Connected to U.S. House After 'Disruptive' Edits \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/wikipedia-blocks-ip-address-connected-to-u-s-house-after-disruptive-edits/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Geller \|first=Eric \|date=July 25, 2014 \|title=Someone in Congress is obsessed with conspiracy theories \|url=http://www.dailydot.com/politics/congressedits-wikipedia-conspiracy-theories-house/ \|publisher=The Daily Dot \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|date=July 25, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages заблокировала анонимные правки своих статей с IP-адресов Конгресса США \|url=http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1340382 \|publisher=ITAR-TASS \|accessdate=August 8, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Miller \|first=Joe \|title=Misplaced Pages blocks 'disruptive' page edits from US Congress \|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28481876 \|work=BBC News Technology \|date=July 25, 2014 \|accessdate=July 25, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Wofford \|first=Taylor \|title=Misplaced Pages Blocks U.S. House for ‘Disruptive Editing’ \|url=http://www.newsweek.com/wikipedia-blocks-us-house-disruptive-editing-261295 \|work=Newsweek\|date=July 25, 2014 \|accessdate=July 26, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Rothrock \|first=Kevin \|date=August 1, 2014 \|title=Did Someone from the U.S. Congress Just Call Putin a “Dickwad” on Misplaced Pages? \|url=http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/01/russia-usg-congress-wikipedia-putin-khuilo/ \|publisher=Global Voices Online \|accessdate=August 7, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Kravets \|first=David \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=@Congressedits nabs Misplaced Pages change calling Snowden “American traitor” \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/congressedits-nabs-wikipedia-change-calling-snowden-american-traitor/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=August 5, 2014 }}
	*{{cite news \|last=Evans \|first=Zenon \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=What Congress Edited on Misplaced Pages Today: Snowden, Manning, Cato, More \|url=http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/05/what-congress-edited-on-wikipedia-today \|newspaper=Reason \|accessdate=August 5, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 5, 2014 \|title=House staffer edited Misplaced Pages page to label Snowden a 'traitor' \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/214365-house-staffer-edits-wikipedia-to-call-snowden-traitor \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 6, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Nguyen \|first=Tina \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Vandal Gets Congress Banned for A Month; Claims U.S. Rep. Authorized 'Transphobic' Edits \|url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/wikipedia-vandal-gets-congress-banned-for-a-month-claims-u-s-rep-authorized-transphobic-edits/ \|newspaper=Mediaite \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Davis \|first=Cindy \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Congress Has Been Banned from Editing Misplaced Pages Because Some Douchebag Is Making Transphobic Changes to Entries, Including OItNB's Laverne Cox \|url=http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/congress-has-been-banned-from-editing-wikipedia-because-some-douchebag-is-making-transphobic-changes-to-entries-including-oitnbs-laverne-cox-.php \|newspaper=Pajiba \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Matthews \|first=Dylan \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Someone on Capitol Hill made transphobic edits to Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page \|url=http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/20/6050965/someone-on-capitol-hill-is-making-ridiculously-transphobic-wikipedia \|newspaper=Vox \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Rojas \|first=Warren \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Fed-Up Hill Types Get LaRouche Revenge on Misplaced Pages \|url=http://hoh.rollcall.com/lyndon-larouche-wikipedia-edited/ \|newspaper=Roll Call \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Campbell \|first=Colin \|date=August 20, 2014 \|title=Someone On Capitol Hill Seems Obsessed With Editing Misplaced Pages Articles On Transgender Topics \|url=http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-on-capitol-hill-is-editing-wikipedia-articles-on-transgender-topics-2014-8 \|newspaper=Business Insider \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Ongley \|first=Hannah \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=A Member of Congress Trolled Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages Page With Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.styleite.com/news/someone-in-congress-has-been-editing-laverne-coxs-wikipedia-page-with-transphobic-comments/ \|newspaper=Styleite \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Tharrett \|first=Matthew \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congress Members Blocked From Misplaced Pages After Lawmakers Make Several Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.queerty.com/congress-members-blocked-from-wikipedia-after-lawmakers-make-several-transphobic-edits-20140821 \|newspaper=Queerty \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title='Orange is the New Black' fight sparks new House Misplaced Pages ban \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/215653-house-staffers-blocked-from-editing-wikipedia-again \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Schwab \|first=Nikki \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=House Staffers Could Lose Misplaced Pages Editing Privileges \|url=http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/08/21/house-staffers-could-lose-wikipedia-editing-privileges \|newspaper=U.S. News & World Report \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mullin \|first=Joe \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congressional staffers banned ''again'' from Misplaced Pages after "transphobic" edits \|url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/congressional-staffers-banned-again-from-wikipedia-after-transphobic-edits/ \|newspaper=Ars Technica \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Johnson \|first=Victoria \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages bans House of Representative's account after user mocks 'Orange is the New Black' actress \|url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/house-banned-wikipedia-anonymous-user-targets-oitnb-actress-article-1.1911925 \|newspaper=] \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Blacklow \|first=Jeremy \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Did Someone in Congress Hack 'Orange Is the New Black' Star's Misplaced Pages Page? \|url=https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/did-someone-in-congress-hack--orange-is-the-new-black--star-s-wikipedia-page-183832777.html \|newspaper=] TV \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Geller \|first=Eric \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congress banned from editing Misplaced Pages for transphobic revisions \|url=http://www.dailydot.com/politics/congress-wikipedia-edit-block-transphobic/ \|newspaper=The Daily Dot \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Heffernan \|first=Dani \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anonymous transphobic Misplaced Pages edits linked to an IP address in US Congress \|url=http://www.glaad.org/blog/anonymous-transphobic-wikipedia-edits-linked-ip-address-us-congress \|newspaper=] \|accessdate=August 21, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Sola \|first=Katie \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages: Transphobic Edits Came from Congressional Source \|url=http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/congressional-ip-address-linked-to-transphobic-wikipedia-edits/ \|newspaper=Mashable \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Velazco \|first=Chris \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=US House of Representatives faces Misplaced Pages ban thanks to trollish edits \|url=http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/22/us-house-of-representatives-wikipedia-ban/ \|newspaper=Engadget \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Merevick \|first=Tony \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-Transgender Misplaced Pages Edits Appear To Originate On Capitol Hill \|url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/tonymerevick/anti-transgender-wikipedia-edits-apparently-originate-from-c \|newspaper=BuzzFeed \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Ferguson \|first=David \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-trans trolling spree forces Misplaced Pages to ban U.S. House staffers for third time \|url=http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/anti-trans-trolling-spree-forces-wikipedia-to-ban-u-s-house-staffers-for-third-time/ \|newspaper=The Raw Story \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hernandez \|first=Barbara E. \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=U.S. House Computers Blocked from Misplaced Pages for 'Transphobia' \|url=http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/press-here/US-House-Computers-Banned-from-Misplaced Pages-for-Transphobia-272255831.html \|newspaper=NBC Bay Area \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Bluestone \|first=Gabrielle \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Congressional Staffer's Edits Got Hill Computers Banned From Misplaced Pages \|url=http://gawker.com/which-congressional-staffer-got-hill-ip-addresses-banne-1625369760 \|newspaper=Gawker \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=DeMaria \|first=Meghan \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page was changed by someone on Capitol Hill \|url=https://theweek.com/speedreads/index/266844/speedreads-laverne-coxs-wikipedia-page-was-changed-by-someone-on-capitol-hill \|newspaper=The Week \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Schwitzerlett \|first=Joshua \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Anti-Trans Edits Earn House New Misplaced Pages Ban \|url=http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/08/anti-trans-edits-earn-house-new-wikipedia-ban/ \|newspaper=Ring of Fire \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Bacle \|first=Ariana \|date=August 21, 2014 \|title=Someone on Capitol Hill made rude edits to Laverne Cox's Misplaced Pages page \|url=http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/08/21/laverne-cox-congress-wikipedia/ \|newspaper=Entertainment Weekly \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Berman \|first=Russell \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Misplaced Pages Gives Congress a Timeout After Transphobic Edits \|url=http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/08/wikipedia-gives-congress-a-timeout-after-transphobic-edits/378991/ \|newspaper=The Wire \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mimms \|first=Sarah \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=House Staffers Banned from Misplaced Pages Over Anti-Transgender Edits \|url=http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-staffers-banned-from-wikipedia-over-anti-transgender-edits-20140822 \|newspaper=National Journal \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=VandenDolder \|first=Tess \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Someone in Congress is Making Transphobic Edits to Misplaced Pages Articles \|url=http://inthecapital.streetwise.co/2014/08/22/someone-in-congress-is-making-transphobic-edits-to-wikipedia-articles/ \|newspaper=InTheCapital \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Trujillo \|first=Mario \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Gay rights group calls for House investigation of Misplaced Pages edits \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/215739-human-rights-campaign-calls-for-house-investigation-of-wikipedia-edits \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Sieczkowski \|first=Cavan \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=Transphobic Edits Made To Misplaced Pages Appear To Have Come From Capitol Hill \|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/laverne-cox-wikipedia-capitol-hill_n_5699160.html \|newspaper=The Huffington Post \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Lanton \|first=Aaron \|date=August 22, 2014 \|title=The House of Representatives has been banned from using Misplaced Pages again \|url=http://www.techtimes.com/articles/13731/20140822/the-house-of-representatives-has-been-banned-from-using-wikipedia-again.htm \|newspaper=Tech Times \|accessdate=August 22, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Mejia \|first=Paula \|date=August 23, 2014 \|title=Anonymous House of Representatives User Banned for Transphobic Misplaced Pages Edits \|url=http://www.newsweek.com/anonymous-house-representatives-user-banned-transphobic-wikipedia-edits-266434 \|newspaper=Newsweek \|accessdate=August 23, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Hattem \|first=Julian \|date=August 23, 2014 \|title=Congress turns Misplaced Pages into forum for pranks, battle \|url=http://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/215796-congress-turns-wikipedia-into-forum-for-pranks-battle \|newspaper=The Hill \|accessdate=August 23, 2014}}
	*{{cite news \|last=Van Wagtendonk \|first=Anya \|date=August 25, 2014 \|title=Citing 'disruptive' edits, Misplaced Pages bars anonymous entries from Congress-linked computers \|url=http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/citing-disruptive-edits-wikipedia-bars-anonymous-entries-congress-linked-computers/ \|newspaper=PBS NewsHour \|accessdate=August 28, 2014}}
	The preceding list documents the extent to which an anonymous serial abuser of the Congressional IP address 143.231.249.138 has exploited this platform to publicly humiliate both the ] and ] over the span of just two months. ] (]) 00:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

	===Abuse resumed in September 2014===
	*{{cite news \|last=Willis \|first=Derek \|date=September 26, 2014 \|title=First Draft Sept. 26 \|url=http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2014/09/26/ \|newspaper=The New York Times \|accessdate=September 26, 2014}}
	] (]) 14:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

	== On troll food ==
	Some bored dudebro staffer in the Rayburn Building is absolutely relishing the attention he's getting right now, and building a shrine to his accomplishments ]. (Keep in mind the House is on recess right now, so his claims of being "authorized" by a Congressman are pretty clearly bunk; I doubt there's much of a scandal beyond a single bad apple.) The MediaWiki platform already provides excellent transparency, ] being easily accessible and its user talk page clearly identifying it as a House IP; if there were a coverup, surely we'd have revdeleted everything! The best strategy from this point forward is to just leave things alone, and nonchalantly block again if the problems come back again in thirty days. --] (]) 03:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	:By peremptorily deleting my comments posted to ]—as you —you are abusing your authority as a Misplaced Pages admin. ] (]) 03:18, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::] is still at it: This is clearly an attempt to suppress free and open discussion of how to deal with an abusive user. ] (]) 15:39, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::: ] (]) 17:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::Do you seriously not see the irony in this thread, where you've just complained about "attempt to suppress free and open discussion", that you're removing my own attempts to discuss it? ] (]) 17:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::I apologize for deleting the two preceding good-faith comments by '''IP 88.104.<span style="color:#FE0101">23.102</span>''', whom I mistook for vandal '''IP 88.104.<span style="color:#FE0101">20.79</span>'''. ] ] (]) 19:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
	:::No, it's an attempt to deal with a delicate situation with careful nuance. The press is already turning this into a "Misplaced Pages vs. Congress, zOMG!!!1" story, instead of the "bored troll vandalizes from his workplace, gets workplace blocked" story that it is; there's no need to fan the flames further. (Organizations like NCTE and HRC, to their credit, are already Congress to deal with this abusive use of taxpayer resources—that's their job, though, not ours.) --] (]) 00:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

	==Heads up==
	You are quoted and your user page is linked in a short today. best, —Tim /// ] (]) 13:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
	: Congrats! -- ] (]) 01:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	== Grammar question: a or an? ==

	I'm wondering about of . Maybe there's some rule I'm missing here. I'm American, but have lived in Europe for most of my adult life, so I do make some mistakes! Although I'm a 64 year old health care professional, to keep up I take American college courses by web (some medical subjects for the fourth time in various languages), and still get top grades. I get comments like this: "I’d say you are in the top 5-10 students I have taught in 13 years here." (Psychology professor)

	I want to get this right for future use. Here's the current situation:

	* "an NYPD spokeswoman" (your version)

	The subject is "spokeswoman", which begins with a consonant. (Even if it's NYPD "New York PD", it would be a consonant.) Wouldn't that normally be preceded with "a" ("a NYPD spokeswoman")? That sounds better to me, but I could be wrong. -- ] (]) 02:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	:*], since you're a health care professional, here's a source you may respect: which is the official companion to the ''Publication Manual of the ]''. "The trick here," we are advised, "is to use your ears (how the acronym is pronounced), not your eyes (how it's spelled)." In the instant case, NYPD is ], meaning an acronym pronounced as a string of letters rather than as a word. Note in the APA's fourth bulleted example the distinction between '''a''' NICU nurse and '''an''' NPO order. Like NPO, NYPD requires '''an'''. I realize this seems counterintuitive, but bear in mind that the letter ''N''—while a consonant—is considered to have a vowel ''sound'' because we pronounce it as if it were spelled EN. ] (]) 03:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
	::* Great answer! Thanks. So with NYPD, we should think of "eN", and treat it as a soft, vowel, sound. I was initially thinking of NYPD as an adjective, with the "a" being attached to the subject "spokeswoman", but I suspect that this would also be a case of "use your ears, not your eyes". -- ] (]) 03:30, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::* While I've got you here, I was thinking of the HuffPost ref as better coverage than some of the other refs (great visuals), but there isn't really that much difference, so no big deal. Because of the visuals, it might be better than one of the others. -- ] (]) 03:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

	== A kitten for you! ==

	]
	Thanks for your Grant Shapps edit.

	] (]) 19:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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	== Blocked ==

	Checkuser makes it very clear you are using the ] in a bad hand/good hand manner, even over the same article. The things that account did were utterly unacceptable, and I fully believe you knew that, and chose to direct them through a different account knowing that. Given that the other account's block is directly to ArbCom only, so is this account's. If you wish to contest this block, arbcom-appeals-en@lists.wikimedia.org is the way. Given the unacceptable nature of the other account's edits, I have also removed your talk page access on both accounts. ] (]) 21:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

	== A barnstar for you! ==

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	\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| Thank you! I was really impressed by the constructive and non-acrimonious tone and contributions from everyone involved in the recent ] discussion on the ] article. What could have been—with the wrong editors involved—a very nasty debate, turned into a very positive discussion. Even editors who strongly felt that the article should be deleted worked hard to find sources and fix problems with it. This is the kind of positive collaboration people don't hear a lot about in Misplaced Pages-land and I'd like to recognize it. ] (]) 19:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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