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Revision as of 16:35, 24 September 2006

Updating

There's not a lot of point updating the scores whilst in play. Misplaced Pages isn't an up-to-the minute sports service. Surely an update once per day (at most) is enough? MikesPlant 16:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it does any harm, provided that uncompleted matches are marked as such; if someone wants to sit at their computer updating Misplaced Pages whilst watching the golf, let them... Js farrar 10:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree it shouldn't be minute by minute thing. But play lasts about 4 or 5 hours in which time a lot people are going view this article so there needs to by some sort of latest score update.Buc 10:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sequence of events on the final day

As broadcast live by BBC Radio Five Live:

Start of play: 10-6; Montgomerie dormie: 10.5-6; Cink dormie: 10.5-6.5; Cink wins: 10.5-7; Casey dormie: 11-7; Montgomerie wins: 11.5-7; Woods wins: 11.5-8; Casey wins: 12-8; Stenson dormie: 12.5-8; Clarke dormie: 13-8; Howell wins: 14-8; Donald wins: 15-8; Stenson wins: 16-8; Verplank dormie: 16-8.5; McGinley halves match with Henry: 16.5-9; Verplank wins: 16.5-9.5; Olazabal dormie: 17-9.5; Westwood dormie: 17.5-9.5; Olazabal wins: 18-9.5; Westwood wins: 18.5-9.5 Js farrar 15:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, if you look at http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/5375176.stm, which is in reverse order, there is a discrepancy that hasn't been picked up, which has caused the confusion. It says "EUROPE WIN: Europe are certain to retain the Ryder Cup because David Howell has win his match 5&4 and two other matches are currently dormie in Europe's favour.", followed by "EUROPE WIN: Chad Campbell visits the water and Luke Donald sinks a five footer to win his match by 2&1 and thereby retains the Ryder Cup for Europe." - but Howell has already retained the Cup, so Donald wins it. Js farrar 15:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

If you want to argue, here you go

Just for the record guys, Henrik Stenson made the winning putt, not Luke Donald. Shuyin05 15:51, 24 September (UTC)

And Luke Donald made the putt to ensure Europe retained the trophey, not Howell.

There's no point saying "just for the record" without evidence (in an unsigned post, no less). See the order of events above, and Stenson's BBC interview confirming that Donald won the Cup. Js farrar 16:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

You want evidence? fine, how about the official freakin Ryder Cup website? http://www.rydercup.com/2006/europe/news/final1.html First Paragraph. - Shuyin05

They're wrong - they're not counting the dormie half-points. See above. Js farrar 16:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Still wrong, for the same reasons. See below. Js farrar 16:16, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Completely agree. was thinking the same thing earlier. Look at all the facts chronologically. Luke Donald WON, not just retained. Just because www.rydercup.com says different doesn't make it so. 81.159.180.13 16:16, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Even that BBC website posted above is stating that Stenson puttied the winning point --Shuyin05 16:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Include the dormie points which were latterly confirmed, and from interviews with experts on the site, Howell made Europe safe at 14, then Donald made sure Europe won at 15. Cs-wolves 16:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Read down - it lists two players as securing the 14. Js farrar 16:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Lets be sensible and employ a bit of arithmetic. BBC are not infallible. If Europe got their 14th point after Donald's putt, and there was a least one dormie out there (which there was), then Donald's putt won it. What possible counter-arguement is there?