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| ***** Two comments: first, if you think something should be actually kept it is best to say so. We aren't going to have any productive dialogue over these issues if people don't at minimum say what they are thinking. Similarly, if you don't say something like "I'd like to keep but merging is a reasonable compromise" then no one knows that you are saying merge as a way to compromise. It is unreasonable to accuse someone of a "brutal rejection of compromise" when they have no idea a compromise has been proposed. ] 03:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC) | ***** Two comments: first, if you think something should be actually kept it is best to say so. We aren't going to have any productive dialogue over these issues if people don't at minimum say what they are thinking. Similarly, if you don't say something like "I'd like to keep but merging is a reasonable compromise" then no one knows that you are saying merge as a way to compromise. It is unreasonable to accuse someone of a "brutal rejection of compromise" when they have no idea a compromise has been proposed. ] 03:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ******Voting to delete when there are keep votes and merge is possible is always rejection of compromise. ] 23:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | ******Voting to delete when there are keep votes and merge is possible is always rejection of compromise. ] 23:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ******* Um, no it isn't. Merging is a valid solution it isn't necessarily a "compromise" some people actually prefer merging. And in any event as I pointed out such dialogue is only productive when people actually give their opinions. If you want to keep it you should say something like "I would favor keeping, but I'm willing to merge" which indicates a compromise offer. ] 04:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' This is a non-notable elementary school. Nothing distinguishes it from other elementary schools. It has nothing notable or significant about it. This reads like a directory entry which something specifically excluded under ]. ] 01:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' This is a non-notable elementary school. Nothing distinguishes it from other elementary schools. It has nothing notable or significant about it. This reads like a directory entry which something specifically excluded under ]. ] 01:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep''' and do not merge, all schools are notable. --] 19:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' and do not merge, all schools are notable. --] 19:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
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Quarles Elementary
non-notable elementary school. Nekohakase 19:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Winchester City School District per the proposed WP:SCHOOL guidelines. — RJH (talk) 20:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merge as above. JYolkowski // talk 22:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Merge orkeep. Kappa 23:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)- Change vote in response to JoshuaZ's brutal rejection of compromise. Kappa 22:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I'm a bit puzzled by your comment above. I wouldn't terribly mind merging (I'd prefer deletion). Once a few people have already suggested merge it is well within the closing admins discretion to count merges as keeps for the general purpose of keeping the content so your above change doesn't do anything. If you are actually of the opinion that this should be merged then say so but "voting" to cancel out another user's comment is not a logical procedure. AfD is not a vote. JoshuaZ 01:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be merged, I voted to merge in a spirit of compromise. That was obviously a mistake. Kappa 03:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Two comments: first, if you think something should be actually kept it is best to say so. We aren't going to have any productive dialogue over these issues if people don't at minimum say what they are thinking. Similarly, if you don't say something like "I'd like to keep but merging is a reasonable compromise" then no one knows that you are saying merge as a way to compromise. It is unreasonable to accuse someone of a "brutal rejection of compromise" when they have no idea a compromise has been proposed. JoshuaZ 03:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Voting to delete when there are keep votes and merge is possible is always rejection of compromise. Kappa 23:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Um, no it isn't. Merging is a valid solution it isn't necessarily a "compromise" some people actually prefer merging. And in any event as I pointed out such dialogue is only productive when people actually give their opinions. If you want to keep it you should say something like "I would favor keeping, but I'm willing to merge" which indicates a compromise offer. JoshuaZ 04:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Voting to delete when there are keep votes and merge is possible is always rejection of compromise. Kappa 23:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Two comments: first, if you think something should be actually kept it is best to say so. We aren't going to have any productive dialogue over these issues if people don't at minimum say what they are thinking. Similarly, if you don't say something like "I'd like to keep but merging is a reasonable compromise" then no one knows that you are saying merge as a way to compromise. It is unreasonable to accuse someone of a "brutal rejection of compromise" when they have no idea a compromise has been proposed. JoshuaZ 03:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be merged, I voted to merge in a spirit of compromise. That was obviously a mistake. Kappa 03:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I'm a bit puzzled by your comment above. I wouldn't terribly mind merging (I'd prefer deletion). Once a few people have already suggested merge it is well within the closing admins discretion to count merges as keeps for the general purpose of keeping the content so your above change doesn't do anything. If you are actually of the opinion that this should be merged then say so but "voting" to cancel out another user's comment is not a logical procedure. AfD is not a vote. JoshuaZ 01:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Change vote in response to JoshuaZ's brutal rejection of compromise. Kappa 22:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete This is a non-notable elementary school. Nothing distinguishes it from other elementary schools. It has nothing notable or significant about it. This reads like a directory entry which something specifically excluded under WP:NOT. JoshuaZ 01:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and do not merge, all schools are notable. --ForbiddenWord 19:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment No one really believes that. If someone taught 4 kids out of their house would that school be notable? Of course not. JoshuaZ 19:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment That might be your POV on it, but we all know that Misplaced Pages is not a paper encyclopedia, it isn't as if we're about to run out of room that we have to delete all of these vitally important school articles. --ForbiddenWord
- Comment As you claiming that we should have articles about a school run out of someone's house that teaches 4 kids if it meets WP:V? JoshuaZ 20:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment That might be your POV on it, but we all know that Misplaced Pages is not a paper encyclopedia, it isn't as if we're about to run out of room that we have to delete all of these vitally important school articles. --ForbiddenWord
- Comment No one really believes that. If someone taught 4 kids out of their house would that school be notable? Of course not. JoshuaZ 19:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and do not merge. Most schools are notable, this is not nearly a 4 kids in a household school. bbx 01:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- 'Comment Then is ought to be written WHY it is notable. Now it looks like a directory listing, not an encyclopedia atricle. Nekohakase 15:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Most schools are notable my arse. •Jim62sch• 00:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge into district article. Not clear that there is enough out there to expand this into an improved article. A four-child school would be ridiculous and would not merit a Misplaced Pages article in most cases. But a school with a dozen or more students passes my test. Between 5 and 11 requires a slightly stronger claim of notability. After all, you gotta have standards. Alansohn 02:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete unless expanded into more than a directory listing. The article in its current state resembles neither an article nor a stub, but an entry in a database, which flies in the face of the effort of the project, being that it is not an arbitrary collection of information. --Kuzaar 13:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into the school district article. Yamaguchi先生 23:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per reasons explained within the User:Silensor/Schools essay. Attendance at this school is over 100 times greater than the one theoretically proposed, so I wouldn't worry about that too much. ;-) Silensor 07:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Silensor. --Myles Long 18:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Merge or Delete do not keep. Vegaswikian 19:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- keep and expand this school is notable to the community and verifiable too Yuckfoo 21:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete would be my preference but obviously the current debate is just a re-run of the thousands of School AfD debates. I think we should put a moratorium on these until a consensus on WP:SCHOOL can be found. Until then, all these debates are just redundant. Pascal.Tesson 03:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep nuff said. ALKIVAR™
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