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Naming honors controversy
The controversy over Giffords having the ship named after her should be mentioned. It's a big violation of military tradition. There are generally two kinds of people who get ships named after them: Medal of Honor recipients and presidents. http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/14/former-military-brass-shocked-angered-over-uss-gabrielle-giffords/ --208.38.59.162 (talk) 16:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
1) That's generally true, but there are a number of ships that have been named for politicians. 2) If you're going to mention the controversy, make sure it's balanced and unbiased. Commentators actually responded to point out the above statement; cites to such commentators have been added. Shelbystripes (talk) 05:03, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Note: I removed a paragraph which stated the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act was amended in response to the USS Gabrielle Giffords naming. This is factually incorrect; it's so factually incorrect that the source cited states the opposite, that the USS Gabrielle Giffords was named after the 2012 NDAA was amended. Please do not undo this edit. Shelbystripes (talk) 05:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Stars and Stripes Quote It is absurd to say the Navy considered naming the ship after a city while they already had one with that name. That is a very simplistic ruse. The quote states:"The name “Tucson” could have been a way to recognize both Giffords and others harmed at the shooting. Unfortunately, that city’s name was already in use on a submarine." The sentence in the article reads:"A subsequent Navy report on the naming noted that Secretary Mabus considered honoring Giffords and other victims of the Tucson shooting by naming LCS-10 after the city of Tucson, consistent with current practice of naming littoral combat ships for U.S. cities, but this was not possible because the USS Tucson (SSN-770), an active Los Angeles-class submarine, currently bears the name." This in no way reflects the source listed. Can't anyone think just a little? 172.56.13.245 (talk)
- The article doesn't say the Navy considered using a name that was already in use. In fact, it says the opposite. It clearly says that Secretary Mabus (who was considering the naming of the ship, not the Navy as a whole) considered naming honors "consistent with current practice of naming littoral combat ships for U.S. cities", and that this stopped with the fact that the Navy already had a vessel with the name Tucson . This is supported by the source (the entire source, not just the lines you cherry-picked). I'm familiar with the fact that the Navy doesn't keep multiple ships active with the same name, you're aware of it, but not everyone reading a story about a former U.S. Representative is necessarily going to be familiar with it. This is why the article actually explains, as it should, that consideration of the name Tucson stopped because it was already in use. It's plain from reading the entire source, if you read more than just the two sentences you cherry-picked out, that (quoting from the source) the "choice" made by Secretary Mabus, to make "a deviation of the naming convention" for LCS, was the "result" of the name Tucson being "already in use on a submarine." The source doesn't say it quite as concisely, but that's the whole reason it's worded differently in the article. Shelbystripes (talk) 20:56, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- USS Henry M. Jackson Including Henry M. Jackson in the list of ships "named for prominent politicians who were still alive at the time of the naming" is factually incorrect as the planned USS Rhode Island was not renamed the USS Henry M. Jackson until shortly after his death per the boat's official history. http://www.csp.navy.mil/henrymjackson/About/ 124.40.47.115 (talk) 09:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
"Giffords initially was placed in a medical coma to allow her brain to rest"
What does "rest" mean in this context, exactly? Could someone with permissions and medical knowledge make this sentence less vague?--InterPersonalAutomaton (talk) 01:24, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think it's pretty clear what it means. It's better than having some medical jargon there. Neutron (talk) 02:55, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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