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Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:33, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

So instead of bothering to read anything or pay attention, you lob nukes? I don't really know what to say. I've responded, for whatever it's worth. Morty C-137 (talk) 05:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Followup

Morty, I know you have the idea that I am out to get you, and I'm sorry you have that impression. It is incorrect. I'd just like to explain why I showed up at that 3RR report: it was not because of you. It was because I had noticed Doorzki on the talk page of Snooganssnoogans, which I watchlist. Doorzki was obviously a problem account. I scolded them at that page for their edit summaries, and then followed them to the 3RR board, where I recommended a block for them. I could have just gone ahead and blocked them for disruptive editing, but at admin boards I tend to wait for a consensus. My initial comment at that page was about them; it was not about you or directed to you. I did make a general comment about sock puppet accusations, which you responded to by making another such accusation.

About socks: there are two issues. One is that you are unfortunately targeted by a troll, who creates accounts mocking you. That's a tough situation for anybody, and I wish there was a way to prevent it. Those are purely abusive accounts; they should be, and are, blocked on sight by any administrator. One of them turned up yesterday and was blocked within minutes. Any time you become aware of one of those troll accounts, let any admin know; there is no need for confirmation or investigation.

The other issue is that (possibly because of your bad experiences with the troll) you tend to claim that some regular users are socks, and to call them socks on talk pages and discussion boards. That's a problem, because calling someone a sock without evidence is regarded as a personal attack. I do recommend that in the future, if you think someone is a sock of D.H.110, you file an SPI with diffs, and get them definitively dealt with. And in the meantime not keep saying "sock, sock, sock" at discussion pages. I gave you credit for having filed an SPI about Doorzki, but I was mistaken; someone else had filed that. The SPI people concluded he was not a sock of D.H.110, but it was worthwhile finding that out. And he is blocked anyhow, as he should be.

I regret that you regard me as an adversary; I am not. I do not follow you around, but I do watch some pages where you are active, and that means we will occasionally cross paths. I do hope our interactions in the future can be less antagonistic and more focused on whatever is the issue at hand. --MelanieN (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@MelanieN: - there you go again. "I gave you credit for having filed an SPI about Doorzki, but I was mistaken; someone else had filed that." - No, you upbraided me for not having filed one when I had been in the middle of doing so when User:LionMans Account had simply beaten me to it, filling the form out first. But you insist on making snide comments like that and treating me in an adversarial manner, which is why I regard you as someone likely to continue doing so in the future. If I regard you as an adversary, it's because of your repeatedly adversarial conduct towards me and your seeming inability to treat me with an assumption of good faith. Morty C-137 (talk) 21:08, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, I tried. I hope our future interactions are more cordial. --MelanieN (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@MelanieN: No, you didn't really try. If you had actually had intention of trying, you wouldn't have been snidely insulting me. But this seems to be your pattern - you'll insult me, you'll make constant assumptions of bad faith about me or twist anything I do to mean the worst possible so you can justify arrogant put-downs and insults towards me, and then you'll act aggrieved when I notice it and point your behavior out. If you want cordial interaction, then change your clearly WP:CIVIL-violating behavior. Morty C-137 (talk) 21:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Morty, MelanieD is a good editor - assume good faith and move on, please.Volunteer Marek (talk) 03:50, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

FYI

Just for your information: the recent swarm of sock puppet attacks on you was from D.Pearson, not from D.H.110. See here. Not that it matters - a troll is a troll, and just as nasty either way - but it can be helpful to know who your enemies are. --MelanieN (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Attack page?. Guy Macon (talk) 18:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

New Proposal

I've made a new proposal on the ANI thread. It's almost certainly "the best deal you'll get"; the consensus on that page may add other conditions. Power~enwiki (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm making good edits. I helped by submitting it to RFPP when there was obvious vandalism by IPS and throwaway accounts going on. Can you point to even one bad edit I've made there, @Power~enwiki:? Morty C-137 (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay, Morty, I've just seen what you're dealing with, and I don't blame you for being upset. But you have to put it in perspective. There are assholes in the world, and they thrive on the anonymity of the internet. You know what else they thrive on? Getting a rise out of others. Don't rise to the bait. The most productive thing you can do is laugh it off and not let it cause you to behave in a way that will give them what they want. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 01:40, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Morty, Lynn is giving you some good advice. I've restored a welcome message to the top of this page and I'll offer you an apology from the community for the way you've been treated by some anonymous bullying trolls. That being said, I'll offer you some advice of my own: go to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal for Snow Close and reply to Guy Macon, who is also offering you good advice there when he says ...Which opens up a golden opportunity for User:Morty C-137. Are you listening Morty? All you have to do is give us the slightest indication that you understand why eight people just supported having you blocked and/or topic banned and indicate that you will make a good-faith effort to change. Pretty much everyone here (including me) would love to close this with "no administrative action required" and move on. Just give us a reason to think that things will change. Sure, it's not all your fault, but we all make mistakes, and you've been provoked into making some rash ones. But don't dig your heals in – instead take this opportunity to be the better man, reply to Guy's offer at ANI, tell the community you could've handled it better and that you'll make an effort to change (maybe by avoiding contentious articles for a while), then put this all behind you rather than having to deal with a six month topic ban. Mojoworker (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I just got back home from my grandmother's funeral after being out of town so our family could be with her in hospice. When a gaslighter like Guy Macon starts in with insulting phrases like "are you listening morty?" I don't plan to read any further, and I really don't have the emotional energy to deal with any of the new false accusation stuff I'm seeing from DHeyward or any of the constant abuse that wikipedia administrators are willing to let slide just because it's directed against me. You're the FIRST person out of this shitty collection of aspergers and bullies that has so much as offered me a simple apology for what I've been put through, do you realize that? Four months of being fucking stalked and bullied up to and including being told to kill myself, and you're the first one to actually use the word "apology". I am not equipped to deal with this crap right now so congratulations, your collection of aspergers bullies win. I'm not going to be editing anytime soon again. Morty C-137 (talk) 15:41, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Please don't feel bad that a bully is attacking you. Administration is always there for us, and has to remind us every day that the best way to deal with these idiots is to not give them what they want. There are many venues you can go to in case that happens, such as AIV, LTA, SPI, etc. And don't forget that if you think a regular Misplaced Pages is out to get you, just assume good faith and rub it off. Be bold and improve upon others' mistakes if you have to. And of course the Talk page of an article is there in case there's disagreement over an edit you made. Good luck! jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 04:48, 14 August 2017 (UTC)