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A drug in the broadest sense
Your lede is false - I can't edit since I choose to only do so anon. "Drug" in the broadest sense used in the world is not limited to "chemical substances". In the US Food and Drug Act, the definition of drug is anything manmade that is intended to affect human health. In fact, it is this provision upon which the regulation of medical devices and cell therapies has been based in the US. That is certainly not what drug means in common use, nor do I propose that this article say so (except as a single sentence somewhere deep in the article). However, I do propose that it's false to say "in the broadest sense" that a drug must be a chemical substance, as the lede does now. 68.5.203.247 (talk) 20:32, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- Wouldn't anything "anything manmade intended to affect human health" include medical devices? Sizeofint (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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Refine definition
As MaximRecoil has pointed out on Talk:Ethanol, alcohol may qualify as a food since it has considerable caloric value. Reliable sources also call it drug. This conflicts with our definition of "drug" here. Do reliable sources have a more general definition of "drug" that do not necessarily exclude foods? Sizeofint (talk) 02:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Anyone have thoughts on this matter. Sizeofint (talk) 00:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- The calories in alcohol are said to be empty calories having no nutritional value. Alcohol may contain various trace minerals and vitamins but not enough to classify as nutritional (all accord to common searches) and so not really to be classed as a food. There is no doubt mentioned anywhere of its status as a drug. Also simply in terms of any food value - many entheogens are sourced from foods that would have far more nutritional value but are still classed according to their drug properties.--Iztwoz (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I don't doubt that it is a drug and the argument about nutritional value is what I gave to MaximRecoil. MaximRecoil does refer to this paper which calls alcohol a macronutrient though. Also our empty calorie article calls ethanol a food in the body. Sizeofint (talk) 09:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- This paper refers to alcohol as an inessential food so imo does not warrant the use of it as a food as defined by the entry page. Also I don't see the that it conflicts with the definition used here - its stated that ...any substance...consumed - doesn't that cover it?--Iztwoz (talk) 11:42, 18 December 2016 (UTC) Sorry I just read the definition here....--Iztwoz (talk) 11:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- I don't doubt that it is a drug and the argument about nutritional value is what I gave to MaximRecoil. MaximRecoil does refer to this paper which calls alcohol a macronutrient though. Also our empty calorie article calls ethanol a food in the body. Sizeofint (talk) 09:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- The calories in alcohol are said to be empty calories having no nutritional value. Alcohol may contain various trace minerals and vitamins but not enough to classify as nutritional (all accord to common searches) and so not really to be classed as a food. There is no doubt mentioned anywhere of its status as a drug. Also simply in terms of any food value - many entheogens are sourced from foods that would have far more nutritional value but are still classed according to their drug properties.--Iztwoz (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
The definition seems overbroad, because most things cause physiological changes in the body when consumed. Eating bread, for example, triggers a sequence of responses in the body which result in insulin being produced. Drinking more than a couple of litres of water within a few minutes causes quite large physiological changes, which can result in serious harm or even death. Sayitclearly (talk) 07:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- I believe this is why the definition specifically exempts food. Sizeofint (talk) 17:40, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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