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| :::Sometimes editing Misplaced Pages is boring. But sometimes it is absolutely fascinating. For the record, while I am all for Misplaced Pages policy, I don't consider it worth my while to try and suppress editing through bans in general. I am extremely interested in suppresses ''bad editing'' by people editing around bans. I'm also not interested in suppressing the inclusion of obscure medieval stuff about obscure biblical characters. I'd just like to see that kind of stuff laid out clearly for readers: here's what the Bible says, here's what premodern commentators say, here's what modern scholars mostly say, here's something a few modern scholars say, here's something fringe authors say. It's the poorly structured mixing in of randomly sourced premodern factoids that gets me. ] (]) 16:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | :::Sometimes editing Misplaced Pages is boring. But sometimes it is absolutely fascinating. For the record, while I am all for Misplaced Pages policy, I don't consider it worth my while to try and suppress editing through bans in general. I am extremely interested in suppresses ''bad editing'' by people editing around bans. I'm also not interested in suppressing the inclusion of obscure medieval stuff about obscure biblical characters. I'd just like to see that kind of stuff laid out clearly for readers: here's what the Bible says, here's what premodern commentators say, here's what modern scholars mostly say, here's something a few modern scholars say, here's something fringe authors say. It's the poorly structured mixing in of randomly sourced premodern factoids that gets me. ] (]) 16:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Good. I trust the English wp is in good hands since I am so limited in what little I can do or get away with. My current cell phone cant get on at all because the ISP is shared with "the dog and rapper vandal", so for now I can only post here. ] /]/ 16:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | ::::Good. I trust the English wp is in good hands since I am so limited in what little I can do or get away with. My current cell phone cant get on at all because the ISP is shared with "the dog and rapper vandal", so for now I can only post here. ] /]/ 16:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | ||
| ], Doug accused me of being a lot of IPs at Talk:Esau, but I am not familiar with "Prof. Sarna of Brandeis" and was not edit warring to insert him at "Exodus" - which seems to attract a wide variety of volatile edit wars over the months, on a regular basis, as a most controversial topic. ] /]/ 19:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I've got no reason to think that Til is CanCanqr. ] ] 17:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
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I see on my watchlist that my Sockpuppet page has a new entry...
I have also seen the changes of the account suspected of being me at "Esau" and "Canaan", and if I had been able I would have reverted them, because they are inaccurate.
That account is evidently someone interested in associating Biblical "Esau" with modern Europeans and "Canaan" with modern Africans. These types of things are known to be associated with "British Israelism" and similar garbage, which are things I do NOT accept - although I recognize what they are and would always revert such material myself. So no, that is not me. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 14:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
@Alephb: Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 14:53, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, Til. I hope you will understand that, because I only started substantial editing on Misplaced Pages after you were no longer officially with us, there is nothing personal about this. We've never had a chance to cross paths. But, on the other hand, because we have no working relationship, I hope you will not feel insulted that I don't have a real clear idea how much weight to give to your denial here. Another editor suggested the connection, and after digging around I found . . . well, what I've described on the sock page. If you'd like, I'll add a note to my sock investigation that you've responded on your talk page, so that the investigating admins can see whatever your side of the story looks like. Alephb (talk) 15:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- If checkuser is honest, I should be vindicated. Thinking about this more, there are other modern fringe groups all over the spectrum who incorporate claims about both Esau and Canaan's "modern identities", as disparate as the Nuwaubians but they are all ultra fringe claims with no real basis in actual recorded history. (I admit to being the anon who reverted him when he first showed up at Canaan in June, from my old cell phone, because the edits were so terrible) I see he also edited "Amhara people", and if he is from the Horn which is quite possible then the number of weird ideas he could be potentially be pushing just doubled. Another possibility that occurred to me is that someone is trying to impersonate me to make me look worse, but just not doing a good job. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:28, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- In June he or she apparently reverted me there once while logged out, and I just traced it to Tel Aviv, note I am in the US Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- To, to summarize --
- Alephb: I think you might be evading a community ban under the name CanCanqr.
- Til: No, actually I've been evading a community ban by reverting things CanCanqr does.
- Sometimes editing Misplaced Pages is boring. But sometimes it is absolutely fascinating. For the record, while I am all for Misplaced Pages policy, I don't consider it worth my while to try and suppress editing through bans in general. I am extremely interested in suppresses bad editing by people editing around bans. I'm also not interested in suppressing the inclusion of obscure medieval stuff about obscure biblical characters. I'd just like to see that kind of stuff laid out clearly for readers: here's what the Bible says, here's what premodern commentators say, here's what modern scholars mostly say, here's something a few modern scholars say, here's something fringe authors say. It's the poorly structured mixing in of randomly sourced premodern factoids that gets me. Alephb (talk) 16:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Good. I trust the English wp is in good hands since I am so limited in what little I can do or get away with. My current cell phone cant get on at all because the ISP is shared with "the dog and rapper vandal", so for now I can only post here. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 16:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sometimes editing Misplaced Pages is boring. But sometimes it is absolutely fascinating. For the record, while I am all for Misplaced Pages policy, I don't consider it worth my while to try and suppress editing through bans in general. I am extremely interested in suppresses bad editing by people editing around bans. I'm also not interested in suppressing the inclusion of obscure medieval stuff about obscure biblical characters. I'd just like to see that kind of stuff laid out clearly for readers: here's what the Bible says, here's what premodern commentators say, here's what modern scholars mostly say, here's something a few modern scholars say, here's something fringe authors say. It's the poorly structured mixing in of randomly sourced premodern factoids that gets me. Alephb (talk) 16:16, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
User:Alephb, Doug accused me of being a lot of IPs at Talk:Esau, but I am not familiar with "Prof. Sarna of Brandeis" and was not edit warring to insert him at "Exodus" - which seems to attract a wide variety of volatile edit wars over the months, on a regular basis, as a most controversial topic. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 19:34, 13 October 2017 (UTC)