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	:Well, your roommate can post to his own talk page even while blocked. He can post {{tl\|unblock}} and give a reason. The roommate excuse is frequently given, sometimes it is true and sometimes not. I would like the case to reviewed by someone else. Of course, your roommate's account was recognized by users familiar with your editing habits; if he had different interests, no one would have had the idea to check. As far as editing while logged out is concerned, it's not really sockpuppet behavior, but if it is done to avoid accountability for 3RR or other problems then it's wrong no matter what it is called. I will keep an eye on your talk pages to see what other editors think. ] 02:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)		:Well, your roommate can post to his own talk page even while blocked. He can post {{tl\|unblock}} and give a reason. The roommate excuse is frequently given, sometimes it is true and sometimes not. I would like the case to reviewed by someone else. Of course, your roommate's account was recognized by users familiar with your editing habits; if he had different interests, no one would have had the idea to check. As far as editing while logged out is concerned, it's not really sockpuppet behavior, but if it is done to avoid accountability for 3RR or other problems then it's wrong no matter what it is called. I will keep an eye on your talk pages to see what other editors think. ] 02:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

			::As to the Slovan account, let us compare Slovan's edit with the previous edit by VinceB's puppet 195.56.224.133 . They are the same. Both Slovan and the puppet appeared to support VinceB's particular point of view against PANONIAN. As for the allegedly legitimate anonymous edits, VinceB refused my suspicion that he/she had ever used the 195.56... IPs and he/she even called my initiation of the formal CheckUser procedure a "personal attack" . For being one of two editors who exposed the connection between VinceB, Slovan, and the IPs, I have been harassed at Misplaced Pages:Personal attack intervention noticeboard and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The "personal attack warning" templates have been placed by VinceB on my talk page. I will quote VinceB's reason: "''I know that I didn't used sockpuppets, beause I has a username here.''" Please compare it with the present version "''I nearly always do anonim edits instead of using this account''". In other words, after the CheckUser confirmed his/her sockpuppetry, VinceB's version of the events was changed from not knowing the 195.56...s into using them in a benign way. I am sorry, but I do not buy it. The use of sockpuppets to vandalize articles and to create impression that a controversial edit is supported by more than one editor is not legitimate at all in my opinion. Therefore, I must oppose any relaxation of the measures (unblocking Slovan). On the other hand, I would like to believe that VinceB has learnt his/her lesson and his/her future edits will be more constructive. ] 21:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

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User:Slovan

You just blocked my roommate for indef. Yes, I live in a college --VinceB 01:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

And as far as I know, logging in is not a must. I wrote the sign on my userpage that "I nearly always do anonim edits instead of using this account" so accusing me of sockpuppetry or such assumpion that I wanted to avoid the 3RR is false. A: I'm not the only one making contribs from Hungary B: I always stopped at the limit. Check it leisurely. But yes, that's true that I'm quite short tempered. I learned the lession abt this. All what is proven is that I wrote a true sentence on my userpage. And I got a block for it. pff...--VinceB 01:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, your roommate can post to his own talk page even while blocked. He can post {{unblock}} and give a reason. The roommate excuse is frequently given, sometimes it is true and sometimes not. I would like the case to reviewed by someone else. Of course, your roommate's account was recognized by users familiar with your editing habits; if he had different interests, no one would have had the idea to check. As far as editing while logged out is concerned, it's not really sockpuppet behavior, but if it is done to avoid accountability for 3RR or other problems then it's wrong no matter what it is called. I will keep an eye on your talk pages to see what other editors think. Thatcher131 02:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

As to the Slovan account, let us compare Slovan's edit with the previous edit by VinceB's puppet 195.56.224.133 . They are the same. Both Slovan and the puppet appeared to support VinceB's particular point of view against PANONIAN. As for the allegedly legitimate anonymous edits, VinceB refused my suspicion that he/she had ever used the 195.56... IPs and he/she even called my initiation of the formal CheckUser procedure a "personal attack" . For being one of two editors who exposed the connection between VinceB, Slovan, and the IPs, I have been harassed at Misplaced Pages:Personal attack intervention noticeboard and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The "personal attack warning" templates have been placed by VinceB on my talk page. I will quote VinceB's reason: "I know that I didn't used sockpuppets, beause I has a username here." Please compare it with the present version "I nearly always do anonim edits instead of using this account". In other words, after the CheckUser confirmed his/her sockpuppetry, VinceB's version of the events was changed from not knowing the 195.56...s into using them in a benign way. I am sorry, but I do not buy it. The use of sockpuppets to vandalize articles and to create impression that a controversial edit is supported by more than one editor is not legitimate at all in my opinion. Therefore, I must oppose any relaxation of the measures (unblocking Slovan). On the other hand, I would like to believe that VinceB has learnt his/her lesson and his/her future edits will be more constructive. Tankred 21:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

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	:Well, your roommate can post to his own talk page even while blocked. He can post {{tl\|unblock}} and give a reason. The roommate excuse is frequently given, sometimes it is true and sometimes not. I would like the case to reviewed by someone else. Of course, your roommate's account was recognized by users familiar with your editing habits; if he had different interests, no one would have had the idea to check. As far as editing while logged out is concerned, it's not really sockpuppet behavior, but if it is done to avoid accountability for 3RR or other problems then it's wrong no matter what it is called. I will keep an eye on your talk pages to see what other editors think. ] 02:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)		:Well, your roommate can post to his own talk page even while blocked. He can post {{tl\|unblock}} and give a reason. The roommate excuse is frequently given, sometimes it is true and sometimes not. I would like the case to reviewed by someone else. Of course, your roommate's account was recognized by users familiar with your editing habits; if he had different interests, no one would have had the idea to check. As far as editing while logged out is concerned, it's not really sockpuppet behavior, but if it is done to avoid accountability for 3RR or other problems then it's wrong no matter what it is called. I will keep an eye on your talk pages to see what other editors think. ] 02:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

			::As to the Slovan account, let us compare Slovan's edit with the previous edit by VinceB's puppet 195.56.224.133 . They are the same. Both Slovan and the puppet appeared to support VinceB's particular point of view against PANONIAN. As for the allegedly legitimate anonymous edits, VinceB refused my suspicion that he/she had ever used the 195.56... IPs and he/she even called my initiation of the formal CheckUser procedure a "personal attack" . For being one of two editors who exposed the connection between VinceB, Slovan, and the IPs, I have been harassed at Misplaced Pages:Personal attack intervention noticeboard and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The "personal attack warning" templates have been placed by VinceB on my talk page. I will quote VinceB's reason: "''I know that I didn't used sockpuppets, beause I has a username here.''" Please compare it with the present version "''I nearly always do anonim edits instead of using this account''". In other words, after the CheckUser confirmed his/her sockpuppetry, VinceB's version of the events was changed from not knowing the 195.56...s into using them in a benign way. I am sorry, but I do not buy it. The use of sockpuppets to vandalize articles and to create impression that a controversial edit is supported by more than one editor is not legitimate at all in my opinion. Therefore, I must oppose any relaxation of the measures (unblocking Slovan). On the other hand, I would like to believe that VinceB has learnt his/her lesson and his/her future edits will be more constructive. ] 21:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)