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As you know, a dispute has been going on for some while between me and ]. I feel you are also involved and invite you to say you share. See: ] As you know, a dispute has been going on for some while between me and ]. I feel you are also involved and invite you to say you share. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:Ulritz


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Yes, you are absolutely true (please excuse spelling mistakes, my English has not yet perfected) but how does anyone know it is true? Only I know. Chat?|~-$*Kimberly*$-~|Contribs 02:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Adopting Me!

I am not sure that you are not too advanced and moi, too newby, not to drive you nuts, but at least I am glad to be adopted by a biology maven.

Caroldermoid: t/c --caroldermoid 23:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC) PS I did that signature with t/c by copying someone else above, but I still have not figured out how to save the thing! DOH!

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User:Penetrating Fluid

Please explain why you blocked me, what on earth is wrong with my username ? Penetrating Fluid

Usernames connected with sexual practices are not allowed. I assume you are familiar with penetration and emanating fluids? - Samsara (talkcontribs) 19:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Huh, are you serious ??? penetrating fluid has nothing to do with sexual practices it is a light oil used to free sticking components ! see http://www.google.com/search?q=penetrating+fluid I chose the name because I have a can on my desk and it seemed very appropriate to what I was trying to do in unsticking the wiki feud. I have tried to be a good editor and have corrected numerous factual errors but this is the last straw, don't unblock me, I give up.

Well, guess what? Misplaced Pages:Usernames: Trademarked names should not be used in a username. So either way, it doesn't work. Please register a new name. Thank you. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 21:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. This user sent a complaint in to unblock-en-l regarding the block. I am also familiar with "penetrating fluid" and "penetrating oil" in the mechanical / engineering sense (see penetrating oil); these are legitimate technical terms with no sexual connotation. They aren't trademarks; they're generic terms for that class of oil or lubricant. I've also never heard of them being used as sexual slang. I believe that your justification here is in error; please consider unblocking the user. Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 21:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Since you're clearly a member in good standing, I will trust your judgement in this. I'll still contend that "penetrating oil" would have been less problematic than "Fluid", especially capitalised, and that it's not the best idea to create a new account to then engage in a dispute, whether as mediator or combatant. This always sets alarm bells ringing, with good reason. I still think the user should consider opening a new account, especially since this one so far has only one edit, and so it's going to cause less upheaval than changing it later on. I'll leave it up to you to redirect penetrating fluid. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 21:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Because it is Penetrating Fluid in the U.K. and Penetrating Oil in the good ole USA where I guess in the Mid West there are some who might actually think it is a sexual practice. You blocked my name out of ignorance of it's meaning. When I objected tou didn't bother to follow the Google link and find out it's meaning. You jumped to the incorrect assumption that it was a trademark. Now you are in danger of introducing a US bias against us Brits. Honestly do you think you are fit to be an administrator ?

I'm from the UK and have reinstated the block following consultation with fellow admins. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 22:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

So there are more of you who act in ignorance, does that make you feel justified ?

Please remain civil and assume good faith. I'm trying to do both with you. You're at your leisure to create a new account with a neutral username. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 22:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

How am I supposed to create an account when my IP is blocked ?

Would it be acceptable to everyone if you unblock User:Penetrating Fluid at least temporarily to allow them to make a Misplaced Pages:Changing username request and have it acted on? Would "Penetrating Oil" be an acceptable username from your point of view? (I don't know if that's what the user will want, but it's a random attemptedly helpful suggestion...). Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert 23:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is internationally visible, including to people not familiar with penetrating oil (such as myself prior to this exchange) and so a username avoiding that phrase would be preferable. I also don't see the need for the account to be transferred to a new name, since the account has only a single edit. From Misplaced Pages:Changing username "alternatives are strongly encouraged." - Samsara (talkcontribs) 23:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I repeat, you censored a perfectly innocent name because you were ignorant of it and made a false assumption. Now you want to protect others who may also be as ignorant and make the same false assumptions. Isn't the point of Wiki to educate people not to protect their ignorance. Furthermore the percieved offence is only in your (or their) mind, thus you are censoring something that is purely of your own invention. If their must be censorship (and I personaly have problems with it in any form) shouldn't it not be restricted to reality in some way.

If you wish to discuss policy, you'll find more fertile places than my talk page, such as the talk pages of whichever policies you take issue with. If, however, it annoys you that I am a thinking being, I apologise and will instantly fall to dust at your behest. Regards, Samsara (talkcontribs) 01:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not wish to discuss policy, I have read the guidelines, nowhere does it say a user can be banned because their name is offensive only in the imagination if an administrator. And I do not want you to 'fall to dust' I merely want you to correct a mistake. It seems you are taking this personally and I assume that is why you are being so pig-headed, please try to be objective.

I'm not taking it personally, and I'm not being pig-headed. If you log out and refrain from editing for a day, the autoblock will expire, and you can register a new account. Many thanks. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 10:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, if you believe that you are in the right then please have the courage of your convictions and complete my article on penetrating fluid Penetrating_fluid If you are willing to put to your money where your mouth is so to speak I shall bow to your better judgement and drop my fight against unjust censorship. If it a term of offence it should be noted as such in the wiki and I should be censored, if it isn't I should be unbanned.

I contend that most people seeing the username would know instantly what it means and think "hey that's a cool name". And OK perhaps a small childish minority a la Beavis & Butthead would think "hee hee that sounds a bit rude". But I cannot imagine who on earth would be offended by it ? tell me honestly were you really offended ?

It's not my job to be offended. I judged the username to be potentially offensive and have therefore asked you to register a new name. Will you comply, or is this whole discussion going to be a waste of your time? My decision stands, has been made public on the ANI noticeboard and has not been criticised. The chance that it will be withdrawn is infinitesimally small. Please comply with my suggestion or make an official complaint. You can, of course, continue to post messages to my talk page, but you may find that they will get removed if this becomes excessive. I feel that I have discussed the matter with you patiently and in sufficient length. Please register a new account instead. If you wish to ask about the suitability of a given username before you register, feel free to ask me or other admins, or use the IRC channels. Thank you. Yours in hope, Samsara (talkcontribs) 13:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

n.n

I just wanted to stop by and say "Thank you" for the kind post to my talkpage. I really appreciated it! :D ~Kylu (u|t) 00:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Stebbins

He had a son called Robert who was living in Corvallis, Oregon at the time of his death; I'm pretty sure the obit would have mentioned if he was a notable zoologist or sociologist. It looks to me like a coincidence. However he could be Robert (Bob) L. Stebbins from the Department of Horticulture Oregon State University; but there's no way to confirm it; and there isn't much info around on him.--Peta 02:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Good shot. That would lend some substance to my other suspicion - Robert L. Stebbins is active as a reviewer on amazon (albeit, curiously, on the Canadian site). Another member of the Amazon community is another biologist, one J. Michael Stebbins , who is a published book author. He's the right age to be a grandson. It would be really nice if we could somehow unravel this. - Samsara (talkcontribs) 02:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Mabye the biography will have some more detail on his family when it comes out. I wouldn't bet on it though, family doesn't appear to rate highly in most of the science biographies that I have read. I find it curious that someone would fail to mention that they were the son or grandson of prominent scientist X.--Peta 02:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom

As you know, a dispute has been going on for some while between me and User:Ulritz. I feel you are also involved and invite you to say you share. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:Ulritz

Rex 13:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)