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Your assistance please...

You closed the discussion on File:Sherurcij Profile.jpg

I need to know:

1. Who took it.
2. What license did they release it under.
3. Is the image actually said to be a picture of Sherurcij? A brown-haired guy in his mid-twenties, possibly with a beard?

The discussion says the image is "low resolution". I am wondering how low-resolution?

Could you email a copy to me, for me to examine?

I am trying to respect people's privacy here, but we may need this image, without regard to its resolution.

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 22:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

• You deleted File:Alleged Khadr 3.png, as {{db-f5}}. I see it was deleted in 2010, and I convinced an administrator to restore it.

I know there are a small group of contributors who have a view of NFCC that is extremely narrow, who simply remove images from the articles where they are being used, instead of going to the effort of explaining why they don't quality for NFCC. I suspect that is what happened here.

If this is an image related to Omar Khadr's capture there is a very good chance the image is really in the public domain, because the only people with cameras on that battlefield were US GIs and their CIA paramilitary colleagues.

Can you tell me what this was an image of? Can you email me the last set of templates I drafted to support keeping the image?

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 23:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

@Geo Swan: In regards to File:Sherurcij Profile.jpg, it was licensed under {{GFDL-with-disclaimers}}, but the author information was not provided. Its resolution is 160×120. Based on the lighting and shadows in the photo, he probably has brown hair. I couldn't tell you what his face looks like because of the resolution and the angle of the subject's head—its more or a less a side profile, taken from a slight distance, and he's looking downward into body of water.

File:Alleged Khadr 3.png is a screenshot of Omar Khadr handling explosives. It was licensed under {{Non-free USGov-IEEPA sanctions}}, and you added the following fair use rationale:

ℯxplicit 23:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Rainierlogoforinfobox.jpeg

You moved this to Commons. How about also uploading the full-resolution file there and not only the bot reduction? --Stefan2 (talk) 00:49, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

@Stefan2: Ah, must have glazed over that. I've uploaded the higher resolution. ℯxplicit 00:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

FFD question

I forgot to add File:Baku 2016 Olympic bid logo.svg to Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion/2017 October 17#Non-free logos in Bids for the 2016 Summer Olympics. I tagged the file with {{FFD}} but simply forgot to add it to the main discussion with the others. I also forgot to add the file to User talk:Felipe Menegaz#Files listed for discussion. The non-free use of the file in Bids for the 2016 Summer Olympics does not comply with WP:NFCCP for the same reasons given for the other files. Does it need a separate FFD to be removed or can it just be added retroactively to the FFD and removed per that discussion? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:08, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: File:Baku 2016 Olympic bid logo.svg can be removed citing policy, and citing the FFD discussion as the precedent. I would hope no one would try to fight to keep that single logo in Bids for the 2016 Summer Olympics. ℯxplicit 01:25, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. Silly mistake by me. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:26, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Jon Lunceford

Why did you delete my page for Jon Lunceford? You stated it's because he's a retired pro gamer, but he's a current radio show host on one of the largest sports radio stations in the country and even more of a public figure than he was as a gamer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vvvskootz (talk • contribs) 17:38, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

@Vvvskootz: Wow, that article was deleted over six and half years ago. Anyway, it was proposed for deletion by an IP editor with the rationale: "This Misplaced Pages page is about a retired gamer, and is no longer in professional gaming, and wishes to have this deleted. Thank you." It remained uncontested for seven days. Prior to that, you actually blanked the page. Would you like it restored? ℯxplicit 23:42, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

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File:Ibrahim Dabbashi Permanent Representative of Libya to UN.jpg

You deleted this file. A user has now recreated a file information page without a file disputing your deletion. I'm not sure if you wish to respond to these statements. At the very least, we shouldn't keep file information pages without files. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

File:ECA-Uniform-BUF.PNG

Hi Explicit. Would you mind taking a look at File:ECA-Uniform-BUF.PNG? It appears to be a re-upload of a file you deleted about a week ago per WP:F6 under the same name. The licensing of the file also seems a bit contradictory since there are two copyright licenses for the file: {{Non-free sports uniform}} and {{cc-by-4.0}}. Maybe there's a reason for both of these licenses, but it's not clear. Moreover, the source credited for the file is another Misplaced Pages editor, which seems a bit strange as well for a non-free file. If this file was user created than there may be no need for a non-free one per WP:NFCC#1. If it's a WP:DERIVATIVE, then I think information about any non-free elements would be needed per WP:NFCC#10a. So, I'm not quite sure what to do here; take the file to FFD, tag it for speedy deletion or try to fix the licensing (if that's possible). -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: The timeline is a little muddy, but Silent Wind of Doom first uploaded the image in April 2009 (it's not in the upload log, but it is in the file's history). It was tagged with a fair use rationale and a non-free license, and the source was "Created by user: Silent Wind of Doom"; I'm assuming this was done due to the logo on the uniform. It was orphaned in September of last year, and I deleted it as such at the time. Rickyharder, instead of asking to have it restored, uploaded it again in January under the same file name as {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}}, then changed the license to {{Non-free sports uniform}} the following day without adding a fair use rationale. This is the upload you marked for deletion, and which I deleted. This new upload was marked as non-free in addition to {{cc-by-4.0}}, probably under the assumption that it was the original uploader's (Silent Wind of Doom) intent, which can't be assumed or claimed. So, I simply restored all the history and cleaned up the file's description page and kept it under a non-free license. ℯxplicit 04:48, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification and thanks for taking the time to sort all of that out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:53, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi again Explicit. I think Rickyharder has done the same thing again with File:ECA-Uniform-FLA.png and perhaps with other files as well. If this kind of thing is going to end up creating the need for lots of after-the-fact cleanup, perhaps it might be a good idea to ask the uploader to slow down and explain what they should do instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Red Coat Trail (Alberta).svg

You might want to reverse course on that. If the PNG on Commons isn't fair use, then the image that you deleted shouldn't be either. Of course, if the SVG you deleted is really fair use, then we have a situation of license-washing on Commons, and the PNG there needs to be deleted, and the SVG with the FUR should be restored and used selectively. Imzadi 1979 → 00:41, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) The Commons file's licensing has been verified by OTRS apparently based upon the discussion at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:RedCoatTrail.png. So, unless there's a new c:COM:DR which results in a different consensus, I think it's OK to assume that the png file's licensing is acceptable. The svg file is a bit trickier because svg files might be considered to be protected by copyright because of the way they are created. I am not too familiar with the process, but svg files are not always considered to be clear cut mechanical reproductions. So, even if the underlying imagery is "free", the svg file may still be a non-free derivative work. If that's the case, then it would fail WP:NFCC#1. I am going to ask Masem to comment on this because he is much more knowlegable about svg files and the copyright issues involving them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979 and Marchjuly: Yes, according to the discussion on Commons, the Saskatchewan government released the sign under a free license, and it was confirmed through an email correspondence. File:Red Coat Trail (Alberta).svg is a vector graphic, which is a product that can be classified as a computer program. There has been a long-standing disagreement on the Wikimedia projects as to whether this is copyrightable or not; until proven that it is not, it must be treated as copyrighted. As a result, the vector version, being someone else's creation, can not be licensed freely, even if the original non-vectorized logo itself is free. ℯxplicit 01:32, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

There are two problems with the PNG.

• First, according to the file description page, the image is the work of SriMesh and released by him/her under CC-BY-SA3.0 and GFDL. So at a minimum, he/she can claim credit for creating the digital reproduction, but not the underlying image. This issue needs to be addressed because the general public who can't read the OTRS ticket are being misled.
• The second, and bigger, issue is that the reproduction is inaccurate, while the SVG was not. Take a look at http://www.routeslesstravelled.com/tag/red-coat-trail/ and compare the photograph to the PNG. The actual signs have a white background and a single black border set away from the edge of the sign. The PNG has a cream-colored background with a black border that is set against the edge of the sign, and also separates the Mountie image from the text legend. The SVG did not have those discrepancies. At a minimum, the PNG needs to be redone to accurately reflect the signs.

Based on the help page on Commons, yes, an SVG could attract an independent copyright, but the file creator would need to assert that claim. Are there any comments from the SVG's creator, in the SVG code or otherwise, asserting copyright on that reproduction? We've generally treated SVG reproductions of highway signs as equivalent to the underlying image. To wit: File:I-75.svg (public domain under the MUTCD, but trademarked by AASHTO), File:M-28.svg (public domain under the MMUTCD and no trademark), or File:183A Toll Road.svg (base image subject to copyright by the Central Texas Regional Mobility Authority, SVG used under FUR). Imzadi 1979 → 02:00, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Keep in mind, we do not consider anything about trademarks on WP, outside of preventing their abuse. And images like the I-75 and M-28 signs are too simple to be copyrighted under the Threshold of Originality. Under that, a random WP user can create an SVG that recreates those, as long as they license that SVG image in a free (ideally, PD) format. The 183A Toll Road sign is non-free (complex enough) so having a user-made SVG of it is inappropriate and needs to be deleted. (We require an SVG made by the organization that owns that copyright to avoid any problems)

The Red Coat image (PNG), if the ORTS is correct, then we do have the right to remake such an image as an SVG as a derivative image (read: we need to reference to the PNG in the SVG), and we just require the uploader of the SVG to license the SVG with the same license or "freer" than the PNG (effectively, the SVG as PD, with the CC-BY still applied to the base image). --MASEM (t) 02:30, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979: After receiving a response from the OTRS volunteer who handled the ticket, there is no problem with the license, and I have updated the file's description page to better reflect the author information.

In regards to the accuracy of the sign, I would like to point out that it is poorly edited from the original. How to proceed from here is really up to the interested parties. One option is simply to reupload the same cropped sign as it is (and not a product of Microsoft Paint); the other is for someone to create a vectorized version where File:RedCoatTrail.png is used for reference of the creation.

Lastly, the vector image File:Red Coat Trail (Alberta).svg still can not be licensed under a free license for the concerns aforementioned. Copyright for the computer code does not need to be asserted, it is automatically granted upon its creation unless the author releases it under a free license. ℯxplicit 01:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Explicit a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Slightlymad 05:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Church music schools in Germany

I noticed the discussion only now, - too late. The German church music schools are no schools, but rather academic institution, compare Musikhochschule. Can we have a category for that. "Christian school" is too broad (and misleading). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: A category for Musikhochschule? It simply redirects to music school, which describes a school as an "educational institution specialized in the study, training and research of music". If Category:Christian schools in Germany is not appropriate, perhaps categorizing a page under the parent Category:Religious schools in Germany may be worth considering. ℯxplicit 00:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

You are right, and it's the cause of the problems, that it is not a separate article, putting a university (that's what Hochschule is, not high school) in the same category as a school where children learn to play the recorder. de:Musikhochschule then: "universitärer Charakter". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: From what I'm seeing, it appears that the intent of Category:Music schools is meant to capture all levels, which is why it is categorized under Category:Universities and colleges by type and Category:Schools by type. I believe you're seeking to branch the category out and make a distinction between schools from universities and colleges, along the lines of Category:Music universities and colleges. This would make a fundamental change of the Category:Music schools's scope and it would be quite a task to go through all those subcategories. ℯxplicit 08:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

I am not into categories much, sorry. I think we had a good one which captured institutions precisely, replaced by three which are all three too general. No improvement for the reader, but I'll keep spending my time writing articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Dear Sir/Madam,

My name is Archa N G (Ph.D. student at the University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada). This is to clarify a confusion regarding the deletion of a page. C.R Neelakandan (AAP convenor-Kerala, India, Environmental and Political activist, Kerala) had a Misplaced Pages page and that is no longer available. After reading the deletion policy, I strongly request to restore the page on C R Neelakandan as it is important both politically and academically. It is important to restore the page because he is still active and it is important to focus on various political aspects and uphold democracy in the intellectual arena as the wikipedia always did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.137.34 (talk) 00:08, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ℯxplicit 00:34, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Help request

Hey Explicit, as you'll probably know, as a non-admin, in case I'm closing a CfD discussion as merge or delete, I empty the category manually and then have it deleted per WP:G6. The latter only seems to work when the category is really empty. Now, I'm confused after the merge closure of this discussion, because one user remains in the category who does not seem to have any reference to the category in the script of their userpage - but the category does show up at the bottom of the page. Also, the other way around, when I click "what links here" in the category, nothing pops up that relates to this user. Do you have any idea how this can happen? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

@Marcocapelle: The category was included in the user's subpages User:凰兰时罗/wіx and User:凰兰时罗/wix. I've removed it from both and emptied the category. Cheers. ℯxplicit 23:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Llywelyn Cremona

Hi, in 2012 (00:11, 23 July 2012) you have deleted an article with the above name. He is a footballer, and back then, I would have agreed with you that he failed WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. However since then he has been called up by the Malta national under-17 football team, Malta national under-19 football team, Malta national under-21 football team, and recently, the Malta national football team, meaning that he is now an international footballer, (apart from being a recognised professional in his league). Therefore, he is by right notable enough and I shall be going ahead with restoring an article according to Misplaced Pages guidelines. Tsum60 (talk) 23:55, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

@Tsum60: Hi, if the subject is now notable, would you like me to restore the article so you can have access to the original content? ℯxplicit 00:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Explicit: I think that would be quite helpful, thanks a lot! Tsum60 (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Tsum60:  Done, Llywelyn Cremona is now available. ℯxplicit 00:40, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Max Greenhough

Max Greenhough was a huge part of the gay pride parade's founding in 2001 with his birth from the first transgender, lesbian and vegan couple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.129.218 (talk) 15:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Okay... Max Greenhough has never existed. Is there a specific article you need assistance with? ℯxplicit 02:36, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Why did you delete the image without replying to the dispute?

Hey, you deleted the image File:Natalya Murashkevich 1984.jpg , but i had put a fair-use dispute tag on there with an explanation but there was no reply to it before deleting the image? The image was a direct port from ru.wikipedia and It was being filed here on the same copyright that it had on that wiki for years.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Natasha_Guseva,_1984.jpg

tldr; Why was my image deleted without a reply to the fair-use dispute? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sp00n exe (talk • contribs) 21:20, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Sp00n exe: The deletion of the file was the response. I couldn't tell you how the Russian Misplaced Pages functions, but non-free photos of living people are almost never justified under the first point of the non-free content criteria policy here on the English Misplaced Pages. The actress is still alive and active, and a of her photo can be created and released under a free license. ℯxplicit 23:48, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Years by continent

Hi there! I think implementing this result will be more complex than these three edits. Those changes stopped categorization by continent for all years, not just the ones included in the nomination. I think the solution will have to be some form of conditional logic based on year. -- Black Falcon 01:29, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

@Black Falcon: Yikes, you're right. I've reverted my edits to those templates. I'm not particularly keen on template coding, unfortunately. Marcocapelle, any idea how this should be implemented? ℯxplicit 01:33, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

If Marcocapelle is not a template wizard, then I can give it a try (I'm no wizard but know just enough to break stuff). We could also ask for assistance. -- Black Falcon 01:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

@Black Falcon: I'm not a wizard at all but it looks like something similar is needed as two lines below in the template, where it says

#ifexpr: {{{1}}} < 100 | ] | ]

I presume this is an if-then-else construction, and {{{1}}} refers to the decade. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it's a conditional expression (see definition). For {{DisestcatContinent}}, the code would be:

{{#ifexpr: {{{1}}} < 150 | ] | ]}}

This should place pages in which the template is transcluded in "Category:XXXY disestablishments" for years pre-1500, and in "Category:XXXY disestablishments by continent" for years 1500 and later. For {{EstcatContinent}}, it would be:

{{#ifexpr: {{{1}}} < 150 | ] | ]}}

For {{Year in continent category}}, it would be:

{{#ifexpr: {{{1}}}{{{2}}}{{{3}}} < 150 | ] | ]}}

If you do not see any obvious errors, we can move forward with the changes or perhaps, just to be completely safe, add a protected edit request on each template's talk page. -- Black Falcon 00:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I've only just seen this discussion, after changing the 3 templates myself. I've done null edits on the estab and disestab categories for each continent to update the parents, but not yet on the "year in continent" categories. – Fayenatic London 11:37, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Excellent, and thanks! The job queue is under 100,000, so the transclusions should update on their own within c. 24 hours. -- Black Falcon 19:12, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Bhagyalakshmi (1961 film)

I see that earlier you have deleted the article under the above caption.

I have recreated the article User:Uksharma3/Bhagyalakshmi (1961 film) and have submitted it for review.

Thank you in advance for reviewing it. ---UKSharma3 (User | talk | Contribs) 01:35, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Reconsider deletion of page Gaurav Sharma (politician)

You deleted the page Gaurav Sharma (politician) wrongly stating that it does not meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG.

As per WP:NPOL for Politicians and judges the person is in fact a "Major local political figures who has received significant press coverage" and "meets the primary notability criterion of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article". I would like to point out that the candidate received significant media coverage including 3 front page on national daily newspapers in addition to many non-front page features, radio and TV interviews.

As per WP:GNG for General notability guideline, the candidate did receive "Significant coverage" in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention in national and international media that the candidate was featured in around the world - New Zealand, USA and India. Many of these articles were referenced in the article that you deleted.

In addition to addressing your WP:NPOL or WP:GNG issues I would like to point out that the candidate was not just a politician. He was the top student in the country on high school graduation for which he received significant media attention in the largest daily newspaper. He is a medical doctor, was the Board Director of Auckland Refugee Council, received a Fulbright scholarship, had worked with the Hillary Clinton campaign and was nominated for the highest award in the country. The candidate also increases the party vote by 11% and received a significant proportion of the vote in one of the most important races in the country (see article on 12 elections/candidates to watch this election in NZ).

As such please reconsider the deletion of the said article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Instanoodle (talk • contribs) 02:16, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

@Instanoodle: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ℯxplicit 02:29, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

DJ Zeke

Hello ℯxplicit. I've noticed that you've deleted the page for DJ Zeke and was wondering why since he's a relatively notable DJ who's worked with Meek Mill and more recently, on Nas' executively produced Netflix original series "The Get Down." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlin8293 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

@Jlin8293: Hi, DJ Zeke was deleted after another user proposed deletion of the article, with the summary left on the page. Please note that notability is not inherent; as in, the DJ working with notable acts does not necessarily make him notable himself. Please see the notability guideline for musicians and the general notability guideline to get a better understanding on when an individual merits an article. ℯxplicit 23:49, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for deleted contents

Well, I was just about to add a note to the page asking you to do this (that was lightning speed?) but can you please email me the contents of the deleted page - User:QEDK/ACE2016. With thanks. --QEDK (愛 • 海) 05:51, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

@QEDK:  Done, email sent. It seems that I checked CAT:USD directly after you tagged your userpage. Talk about timing! ℯxplicit 05:54, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Haha, yeahh, thanks again, btw! And happy holidays. --QEDK (愛 • 海) 09:06, 23 November 2017 (UTC)