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itn request

Im on a mobile right now, can you copy+paste my self revert comment back on to the page please? Thanks

Please comment on Talk:Benito Mussolini

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IRC

Do you have an account on the Misplaced Pages-en WP:IRC channel? Just wondering, as I was wanting to contact you in a quicker form than user-talk pages. _{Adotchar| reply here} 22:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, no, I don't have an account on IRC, but you can email me if you don't want to discuss things on wiki. Sir Joseph 22:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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ArbCom 2017 election voter message

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vote for sir joseph

Dear sir joseph, My vote for you for new development of wikipedia. Sunresh (talk) 20:30, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Questions regarding ARBCOM (Please reinstate)

Thanks for engaging with my question. While I may still disagree with the answer, I respect the effort that you made to address my concerns and will reflect that fact when voting. I do not intend to press the issue further. Just to follow up, though, with an initial apology if I came off as hostile - I only sought an answer, and may have gone overboard in seeking it. With this in light, I would like to ask that you revert your decision to remove my secondary question from the question section, as it deserves to be there in my view. If, as you alluded to, you removed it to spare me from coming off negatively from the interaction, I can inform you that I don't share such concerns - much like yourself, I believe that I should stand by what I have said. If you wish, you can strike out the question, but I would request that you reinstate it nonetheless on the page rather than purging it with a tool intended for vandalism, which my query was not. I am asking here rather than reverting directly so as to prevent an edit war with the three reverts rule. I believe that the question should remain visible, I stand by my concerns and am satisfied that you answered, and I feel that they should be reinstated ergo. If you would kindly see to this, I will be happy to let the matter stand.

P.S. If we are worried about perceptions on Misplaced Pages, purging a valid question doesn't come off as particularly diplomatic.

Nonetheless, that said, I will now drop the matter as you have done your utmost to address my concerns vis-á-vis ARBCOM. Sincerest best of luck in the election. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:01, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Also want to dissuade any notions that I am stalking. Rather, I am trying to cast an informed ballot for ARBCOM in an effort to become more involved in the project. Once this is satisfactorily resolved, I shan't bother you again. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:10, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Arbcom

So, I'm sitting there waiting for a dentist appointment and I get an email notifying me about the Arbcom elections. As I had a few minutes to kill and was already prepared for some pain, I decided to stop by and see how this amateur production of Lord of the Flies was going. Imagine my surprise to see your name there. Have you recently suffered some head trauma? Who did you imagine would vote for you after literally years of open hostility from the administration to people like us? Were you surprised that someone on the "other site" warned everyone you're a Jew? Were you surprised that nobody called him on it? Anyhow, good luck. I'd appreciate it if you could ping me on my talk page when the elections are over, I'd like to see how many votes you get. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

, and as I mentioned on the discussion page, I did ask people for their opinions to see if it wasn't just me. What I find even more troubling is that in several guides they write that I throw out the antisemitism card, which is not true and insulting. I have been told by others that the comments are troubling but there's nothing to be done about it. I know I won't win, but I prefer to lose because of my edits or qualifications, not because of my religion. Sir Joseph 19:37, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

It's called goysplaning. The idea that any complaint about antisemitism is in itself an indication of bad faith is not unique to Misplaced Pages but is taken here to the extreme, just like everything else. (you may recall I was once barred from making AE reports because I reported someone who said, inter alia, that Purim is a celebration of genocide). Have you read this - ? No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I remember the AE and the article. I also had an issue here while editing Bernie Sanders and Milgram. I do think though that people being told they are playing a card is not that often with most minorities. Regardless, I was always told that if someone told me my comment was offensive was to explain myself, or apologize and mention that it was not meant as that. Sir Joseph 20:54, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

This discussion reminded me of this little gem which I noted on the admin boards at the time. A Jewish wikipedia editor is apparently responsible for "the rise of antisemitism" (and notice how he includes himself in those feeling more antisemitic). Not a peep from the admins, of course. Imagine telling a woman she was responsible for rape. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 17:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

What do you make of this? ? Sir Joseph 21:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

1. Obvious sock. 2. Obvious DICK. Again, if this place had any integrity someone would ban him for that kind of shit. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 04:33, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism and ARBCOM

I have come here with an epiphany. I am very sorry if my comment was construed as anti-Semitic. I assure you that it was not intended to be so. In most of my edits in wiki space, I attempt to maintain humour and a light tone. It appears that this ambition has led me astray. The initial comment with which you took offence has been removed, and I unabashedly and wholly apologise for it if it came off as offensive. I feel that the air between us has been unnecessary hostile, and this is something which I wish to remedy. We may have differing viewpoints with relation to the election, but that is not a justifiable reason for us to squabble endlessly. While I do not intend to support you in your pursuit of a role as an arbitrator for a litany of well-documented reasons, I also do not want to make you feel attacked and put upon - I can unequivocally state that this was never my intention. You are unquestionably entitled to your religious beliefs, and should fight for that right. I am not an antisemite, and your status as a Jew does not bother me. So, while I will not rescind my criticisms, I will unequivocally apologise if you were aggrieved and felt that my comments were antisemitic, and will cordially extend an olive branch to you. I did wrong. I am sorry. I do not want to continue the lack of civil discourse between us. Are you willing to accept the olive branch, @Sir Joseph:? Stormy clouds (talk) 00:15, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

firstly, please read this, or at least the summary. I have no problem with accepting an olive branch, if you remove you're comment about antisemitism from your guide. Sir Joseph 00:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I have read it, and guess that we will have to agree to disagree. I still see your branding of me as an antisemite to be opportunistic and founded in fact. I am not opposing you because of your faith, but because of yoir policy. My problem is not with the fact that you are Jewish, but the fact that you use thag fact in an argumentative manner. I am not an antisemite - there is little more that I can say in that regard. The conment on the guide stands as it is accurate. I dislike the terminology of the card, but the fact that you are already attributing your campaign's shortcomings to systematic bias is problematic, and frankly, insulting. I am not saying that you cannot be proudly Jewish. However, don't assume that everyone who opposes you does so on religious grounds, because they don't. I don't. Our argument stemmed from an act of bad faith on your behalf, and construing innocent comments as antisemitic is a continuation of that bad faith. I stand by the critique, which is divorced from religion entirely. In the spirit of civility, I will in fact amend it to reflect this, so as to mend the discourse between us, but the advice to not assume the world is out to get you is still kindly given. Stormy clouds (talk) 00:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

for some reason I think you have a misunderstanding of why I said a certain comment was antisemitic. I also never said people who opposed me are antisemitic. I also never raised that issue with will the criticism. I raised it with one comment I, and many others, perceived as antisemitic. I also never said anything about you. The only bad faith here is from editors telling me I throw out the antisemitism card.Sir Joseph 00:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Done. Olive branch. Take it or leave it. Stormy clouds (talk) 00:43, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

"Sorry that you were offended" is not an apology. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Peter Popoff

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One point

What you were doing on this page was not constructive at all. The clean ups are done in order to avoid the appearance of low quality articles on the main page. You can still resolve the issues of any articles you'd like to see on the main page. Regards. --Mhhossein 19:35, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Verifiability

This edit summary is patently untrue, but I'm not going to continue this, because I don't want this to become skewed into something it isn't. The article wasn't in suitable condition for the main page, it still isn't, and if it's not improved, it won't be featured next year. Bye for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Don't threaten me. It's clear in policy that not everything needs a ref next to it. For example, in the section you think needs a ref, there is a hyperlinked three words, Battle of XXX. That is all. There is nothing to reference. The entire section is just a list coming from a secondary article. And we don't need to be overly aggressive with things that are in linked articles. Now go away from my page. Sir Joseph 16:39, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For your defense of Hanukkah from residents of the former Seleucid Empire. Icewhiz (talk) 21:28, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		Despite our differences, it takes courage to run for the office of an Arbitration Committee officer, bravery to encounter criticism and respond with civility, and grace to accept defeat with humility. Therefore, this barnstar is well deserved. Stormy clouds (talk) 16:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

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Please comment on Talk:Bosnian pyramid claims

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Sweden in the news again

It looks like even the left leaning NYTimes is finally coming to see the truth. , , I give it another year or so and maybe the leftist PC crowd will even acknowledge it here. Sir Joseph 02:41, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

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24 hour rule

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28 December 2017

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