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I found actual reference to the court case itself (chancery division) which deals with issues of equity and commercial property. Lord Davenport paid £800,000 to settle the case. The Sierra Leone government dropped the case following legal advice from their counsel. There is no mention of fraud. http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=328&Itemid=42

I will source out the original court case transcript if you wish.

I accept that the Bilderberg affiliation is possibly too ambiguous to publish as an encyclopaedic form of information. For this reason I will not dispute it being removed.

I will remove the "self-proclaimed" aristocrat or indeed any mention of aristocrat if it suits you, until you verify this fact with the College of Arms as discussed above.

As a recent Wiki user/editor points out - citations are needed. Misplaced Pages policy on the subject of living persons require that this be deleted until a credible source can be found, especially where such statements are defamatory or give rise to libel.

The royal bet should be mentioned; however I disagree with your opinion or any other wikipedia users opinion. Instead facts should be represented.

I have never claimed that Lord Edward Davenport was admitted to the Sunday Times rich list. He did however, enter the Mail on Sunday Rich Report which is mentioned in the same BBC transcript and can be verified by the Mail on Sunday. This fact should be mentioned, although it might be worthwhile mentioning that he was declined entry to the Sunday Times Rich List.

Is this a suitable starting point?

Recent move

Have moved the page from "Edward Davenport (fraudster)" to "Edward Davenport (convicted fraudster)", as this is more NPOV. Fraudster is a subjective term, and not everyone agrees he is one. But it cannot be disputed that he was convicted of fraud, and therefore this new title is less POV. I hope all agree. --Rebroad (talk) 05:14, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Rebroad, I apologize for moving the location of your post, but it is reanimating a four-year dead discussion so I felt it would be best to start a new one. I honestly don't see how adding "convicted" to the title makes it more neutral, and thus the added length and wordiness just seems unnecessary. I have moved the page back to its original location. If you really want to move this page, I suggest using {{requested move}} and get the discussion going again. Primefac (talk) 22:30, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure how Rebroad missed the discussion at #Moving the page above in which I pointed out that "(fraudster)" is in fact already used in several similar article titles. It's also rather bizarre to argue that it's POV to describe someone as a fraudster when they have in fact been convicted of fraud in a court of law. It's not a question of opinion but a verified fact. Prioryman (talk) 21:30, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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There seems to be some debate about the addition of an entire section regarding Davenport's religious beliefs. I agree that this section is unnecessary, for two main reasons. First, the DAILYMAIL is no longer considered a reliable source for most things. Second, it puts UNDUE focus on his religion. A sentence or two, maybe, would be fine, but not a full section with quotes. Primefac (talk) 13:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

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