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Re: 5.5 % speak Swedish in Finland

No you have understood the intention of my reverts quite wrong. I reverted them because when you present statistical data you, in a mathematical sence and therefor as a rule of statistics, have to keep all data at the same precision in case it is data that eliminates the other data. You can't eg. say. 92,76 % of the people in some group wear a hat and 9% don't.

So if you want to change 6% to 5,5 you also have to change 92% to the correct value at the precision of one decimal.

Also when it comes to such large figures it is usually customary to keep to a zero decimal precision, but this is neither what i primarily objected to.

Have a nice day

Gillis 15:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Finnish People

Misplaced Pages is meant to be a neutral encyclopedia. Based on your history of edits, you seem to use it for a personal crusade against everything Swedish. You have to conform to NPOV and stop inserting bold claims without sources. If you disagree with what other people write, that's fine. In that case, use the talk page to argue your case and use sources to back up the claims you make. To accuse others of vandalism, as you did to Epf, just because you don't agree with their views is not in accordance with Misplaced Pages policies. JdeJ 11:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Epf was trying to bring in his own opinions of Finnish origin, claiming that we are not the original people of Finland. I would say that that is non-NPOV and as such, vandalism. --Jaakko Sivonen 15:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

You have taken to an unpleasant tactic of accusing anyone who disagrees with you of vandalism. You accused Epf when he disagreed with you. What he in fact did was to change a paragraph lacking any sources to another one that was backed up with sources. Regardless of whether you disagree with him or not, you cannot possibly call that vandalism. In the past few days, you have issued warnings of vandalism to a number of users. What these users have done is to restore the information box at Finnish people to the template used in every other article on different peoples. Let me be very clear here, editing out your own edits so that the information box looks as it previously did is not vandalism. Please try to engage in discussions in a constructive way in the future and argue for your views on the talk pages. JdeJ 08:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Final warning

One more personal attack, or an abusive edit summary will result in a report which will likely lead to a block. Please reconsider your attitude. --Irpen 17:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't have to call people idiots if they would read the arguments, but no: you just reverted without any counter-argument and without any knowledge of Finnish history. That is called vandalism and consider this your final warning. --Jaakko Sivonen 17:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I have blocked you for persistant incivility. See:--MONGO 20:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Jaakko Sivonen (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I will refrain from personal attacks

Decline reason:

All things considered, some would call 31 hours lenient. You need to know that we're serious about these things. Please do continue to contribute, but please bear in mind civility while you do. Thanks for your patience, in the meantime. -- Luna Santin 06:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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Sinä kun näistä asioista olet sotvannut niin katso mitä Russophobiassa on.--Pudeo (Talk) 11:41, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Kiitos, poistin kuvan. --Jaakko Sivonen 11:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

It is not considered polite to use foreign languages in this Anglophone project. Please translate or you will be reported. --Ghirla 12:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:TE

Jaakko, I see that you engage in tendentious editing. Please reconsider. This edit is particularly disturbing. Could you explain why you insist on adding Vyborg Castle to Category:History of Finland, when it is already part of Category:Medieval Finland? It is easy to see that the latter category is part of the former; and WP:CAT deprecates double categorization. As for the rest of your edits, they are in violation of WP:NC. There have been many discussions on naming issues. You may want to check Talk:Gdansk/Vote to get some idea of it. The consensus is to use, in historical contexts, those names that were official at the period. For instance, we don't say that Kant lived in Kaliningrad. To talk about the Siege of Saint Petersburg during WWII is also misleading. If the castle was built by the Swedes and was used by the Swedish government, its name should be rendered in Swedish. Another option is to use Russian, because the castle has been part of Russia during the last three centuries. I don't see any basis for forcing Misplaced Pages to prefer Finnish spellings there. If you don't reconsider you activities, more blocks may ensue. Take care, Ghirla 12:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)