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:::::::So where are your credentials? I think you're acting ignorant. ] (]) 10:56, 5 March 2018 (UTC) :::::::So where are your credentials? I think you're acting ignorant. ] (]) 10:56, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
::::::::You're just wasting time with these comments. Actually rebut my argument which as I said is that those numbers are just projections, it would make more sense if you reported on the meeting of that deliverable (which AFAIC is usually how it's done). If you don't have anything constructive to say, then don't say it at all. ] (]) 11:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC) ::::::::You're just wasting time with these comments. Actually rebut my argument which as I said is that those numbers are just projections, it would make more sense if you reported on the meeting of that deliverable (which AFAIC is usually how it's done). If you don't have anything constructive to say, then don't say it at all. ] (]) 11:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

We do have a tendency to report announcements by large modern nations, and do so quite regularly when those announcements may affect policy; see the numerous instances wherein Trump has announced various intended policy changes, long before any serious attempt to implement them; most recently, his opinions on the trade of steel and aluminum. Arguably, this is partly a response to that; China's goal is lower than a number hit last year, signalling an expectation that the market may be less favorable. I would personally argue that this is, in fact, notable, as it signals economic tension between two of the three most populous nations in the world. ] (]) 11:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

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China GDP target for 2018

China keeps the target of 6.5% GDP growth in 2018, says Prime Minister of China Li Keqiang, the same target that was exceeded in 2017. (Reuters)

Argumentation in favour of publishing:

So it is news that China sets a 6.5% GDP growth target for 2018. Additional info:

  • Same target as 2017, despite having reached 6.9% last year
  • The target is in the PM's yearly work report
  • The target is supported by the head of the state council’s research office Wakari07 (talk) 09:15, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Argumentation against publishing:

Please discuss. Wakari07 (talk) 09:15, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Those aren't arguments and in any case it's not noteworthy as every government on Earth does that. Wingwraith (talk) 09:21, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Agencies and papers who think it's news: Reuters, BBC, the Kansas City Star, Yahoo News, India TV, Xinhua, The Australian, New Haven Register, Nasdaq, Fox Business, CNBC, New York Daily News, Asahi Shimbun... and many more. Wakari07 (talk) 09:42, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

But I agree the target is not exactly 6.5%. Possible rewording:

China keeps the target of around 6.5% GDP growth in 2018, says Prime Minister of China Li Keqiang, the same target that was exceeded in 2017. (Reuters)

You can article mine like that for any event that any government does and get basically the same result, but my point still stands, that announcement in itself is not noteworthy. Wingwraith (talk) 10:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

  • The public number was rather 7.5% previously. 6.5% is really new data. Also, China is not just any country. I wouldn't do that for the Maasmechelen announcement that it tightens rules after some girls complained of being filmed by boys in the swimming pool. Wakari07 (talk) 10:25, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Those numbers are just projections, it would make more sense if you reported on the meeting of that deliverable (which AFAIC is usually how it's done). Wingwraith (talk) 10:30, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Not projections but guidance. Please educate yourself on how things work. Wakari07 (talk) 10:41, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
No they are projections, that's what they scientifically are, you just call them guidance because you think that the word makes what is going on sound nice. Wingwraith (talk) 10:47, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Especially if you don't like it, you should learn the basics of socialist market economy. Wakari07 (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I know more about it than you do and my point still stands, these kinds of announcements are not newsworthy. Wingwraith (talk) 10:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
So where are your credentials? I think you're acting ignorant. Wakari07 (talk) 10:56, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
You're just wasting time with these comments. Actually rebut my argument which as I said is that those numbers are just projections, it would make more sense if you reported on the meeting of that deliverable (which AFAIC is usually how it's done). If you don't have anything constructive to say, then don't say it at all. Wingwraith (talk) 11:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

We do have a tendency to report announcements by large modern nations, and do so quite regularly when those announcements may affect policy; see the numerous instances wherein Trump has announced various intended policy changes, long before any serious attempt to implement them; most recently, his opinions on the trade of steel and aluminum. Arguably, this is partly a response to that; China's goal is lower than a number hit last year, signalling an expectation that the market may be less favorable. I would personally argue that this is, in fact, notable, as it signals economic tension between two of the three most populous nations in the world. Icarosaurvus (talk) 11:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)